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If you're religious or a theist, AND leftist or socially libertarian, post your attitude toward various social issues with respect to which the media portrays the most vocal theists as taking a conservative stance.

(If you find that sentence syntactically migraine-inducing, I apologize in advance ...)

That's me!

A Reform Jew who's pro-gay marriage, pro-all gay rights, pro-choice, pro-affirmative action, I don't know what you consider to be other issues I should write about here.

What issues?

I don't watch TV or read newspapers.

EDIT: I am religious, though I belong to no organized religion. I voted for the Liberal Party of Canada (hope that's liberal enough to qualify). I am Pro-Life and Pro-Choice. I am in favour of preserving marriage in the form of a religious-only ceremony, and giving all united couples, married or no, equivalent financial and political benefits. I eat cheese. What else do you want to know?

If you're religious or a theist, AND leftist or socially libertarian, post your attitude toward various social issues with respect to which the media portrays the most vocal theists as taking a conservative stance.

(If you find that sentence syntactically migraine-inducing, I apologize in advance ...)Optima Justitia you obviously don't read the forums often enough. (And you've got only 20 posts to show for your year on NS! :eek: One would think that if you don't post in the forums, you at least read them.) I've posted at least one thread with exactly the same topic.

Liberal atheist, so it doesn't apply.

That's me!

A Reform Jew who's pro-gay marriage, pro-all gay rights, pro-choice, pro-affirmative action, I don't know what you consider to be other issues I should write about here.don't the reforms seems as un-religious compare to the orthodox?
maybe light-religious could be liberals, but radical-religious liberal is oxymoron to me.

If you're religious or a theist, AND leftist or socially libertarian, post your attitude toward various social issues with respect to which the media portrays the most vocal theists as taking a conservative stance.

(If you find that sentence syntactically migraine-inducing, I apologize in advance ...)

Well I'm a democrat, I'd assume I'm left.

Abortion shouldn't be banned.

Gay Marriage no, but Civil Unions yes.(civil unions should have all benefits as marriage though, no half @ssing it)

Borders should be closed to illegal immigrants like mexicans. How easy would it be for a Jihad-ist to come in if Mexicans can? Plus they take away jobs some people do want. I mean, not everyone but some would work if the job was open.

If you hurt a pregnant women so she loses a baby same punishment as old testament dictates a fine, not jail.

Tax cuts are bad when economy needs money. Even Reagon realized this and raised taxes after cutting.

Which issue is left that I didn't answer?

I'm in between secular and moderate. Leaning more towards secularity. I'm left-wing although I once had a tendency to lean to the right.

Optima Justitia you obviously don't read the forums often enough.You have no idea. I'm an ardent lurker, primarily because I can't afford, timewise, to be more of an active participant.

don't the reforms seems as un-religious compare to the orthodox?
maybe light-religious could be liberals, but radical-religious liberal is oxymoron to me.
We're still (mostly) theists, so we do qualify for being a religion and thus qualify for this question.

You have no idea. I'm an ardent lurker, primarily because I can't afford, timewise, to be more of an active participant.I started a thread for all religious liberals and non-religious conservatives to discuss why they picked that viewpoint. It went for a good 24 hours before disappearing into the mists. If you vistied the forums every day, you would have seen it.

Sorry. I have patience for just joined n00bs, but not people who've been here for longer than I have. (cumulatively)

We're still (mostly) theists, so we do qualify for being a religion and thus qualify for this question.
if theist is anyone who believe in some sort of god/s or superior power it really don't hard to find liberal or even secular theists.
maybe I just define the question wrong.

I'm a (fairly) fundie christian. That automatically makes me left-wing and my liberal view on most social issues (pro-choice, pro-gay marriage...) send me that bit further.

You might want to check out Jim Wallis' www.sojo.net. He also has a book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060558288/qid=1119546255/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-2760577-2007349) called God's Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn't Get It. I don't think he;s that theologically liberal, but then I don't think that's what you're looking for.

If you hurt a pregnant women so she loses a baby same punishment as old testament dictates a fine, not jail.

:eek: Do you also support the stoning of Adulterers?

Wurzelmania, the quote in your signature seems to be Latin for "the da Vinci code is a sewer." Eh???

Wurzelmania, the quote in your signature seems to be Latin for "the da Vinci code is a sewer." Eh???Read the book and you will find the truth! It is! :D

(I haven't read it either, lol.)

I'm a Catholic that may not be 100% for every liberal issue (gay marriage, abortion), however I am more liberal than anything and I beleive that through compromise we can bring peace between both sides of the this hypothertical political spectrum. Remember that there are very few who intend wrongdoing on the other side of the spectrum. Quite the contrary, the political right are so anal because they fear violation of humanity, which can be complimented by the left-wing agenda to enhance humanity.
-Chris :fluffle:

I'm a Christian Liberal Socialist!

I am only for Abortion in cases of Rape and Endangering the Mother's Life.

I believe that Gay's should have the right to Civil Unions and to gain rights that a Married Couple gain. (e.g Right to adopt a child). But it not to be called a "Marriage".

I believe in the seperation of Church and State.

Im an Internationalist, so don't believe in border controls.

Plus I believe in Freedom of Religion.

Any Isses I missed?

If you're religious or a theist, AND leftist or socially libertarian, post your attitude toward various social issues with respect to which the media portrays the most vocal theists as taking a conservative stance.

(If you find that sentence syntactically migraine-inducing, I apologize in advance ...)


I'm not sure if I qualify or not. :)

Buuuuttt...

I'm a 14 year Wiccan (not 14 years old, been Wiccan that long), Pro-Gun, Pro-Choice (anti-abortion. ;) Wouldn't have one, or ask anyone else to), Pro-Flat Tax, Pro-Gay Marraige, Anti-Religion. (Meaning, I want all religion out of the government, that includes you Justitia).

Does that qualify?

I'm a Christian who is politically pro-choice, pro-equality (which includes same sex marriage), pro-religious freedom (including the freedom to follow no religion at all), pro-welfare (although I think the current form needs quite a bit of reforming and cuts) for those who truly need it and are (if possible) attempting to get off of it, ...

I'll add more later if I think of them.

i'm a somewhat devout roman catholic. i am liberal, and i am pro-gay rights, pro-equality, pro-religious freedom but pro-life as well

*snip* (Meaning, I want all religion out of the government, that includes you Justitia).Did I ever suggest that I wanted religion intertwined with government? I hope not!

Did I ever suggest that I wanted religion intertwined with government? I hope not!I think s/he means anti-religion as well as religion. I.e. the government should have no stance on religion.

:eek: Do you also support the stoning of Adulterers?
No, but if there are 3 witnesses I'd worry why they all saw it. (you needed 3 witnesses to report a crime back in OT)

As Jesus said, Go and sin no more. She still should repent. But Adultry would only illegal because Fornification is (like in virginia)

Any member of the Canadian United Church has to be liberal-minded, an optimistic, and a religious person at the same time. ;)

PS: 3 million members can't be wrong :D

If you're religious or a theist, AND leftist or socially libertarian, post your attitude toward various social issues with respect to which the media portrays the most vocal theists as taking a conservative stance.

(If you find that sentence syntactically migraine-inducing, I apologize in advance ...)

I think my own views of evangelism and Christianity can best be summed up by something Jim Wallis said in an interview:


Well, it's difficult to understand how we [evangelicals] can be biblical in our politics, which an evangelical wants to be, and not care anything for the poor, or not talk about poverty all the time. This is the primary social issue in the Bible -- what God says about those who are left out and left behind, whom Jesus calls "the least of these."

Jesus says, "I was hungry. I was thirsty. I was naked. I was a stranger. I was sick. I was in prison. You didn't come to me. You didn't feed me. You didn't clothe me." And the people said, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and thirsty and naked and a stranger and sick and in prison?" He says, "As you've done to the least of these, you've done to me." That's Matthew 25 [verses 42-45]. That was my conversion passage. …

So this isn't for me a social action question. It's not a political question. It is impossible to be an evangelical Christian and ignore the vast teaching of the Bible about poor people.

… We haven't been doing good Bible study. We have been ignoring the Bible, and we have been conformed to our culture. Romans 12:2 says, "Don't be conformed to this world. Be transformed by the renewal of your minds," where one translation says, "Don't let the world squeeze you into its mold." Too many evangelical Christians are like affluent, upper-middle class suburban dwellers more than they are like those who love and cherish and follow the Bible.

Now, they think they are. They believe they are. They love the Bible. But they're not paying attention to whole vast areas of biblical teaching that call for economic justice. You can't be evangelical and associate yourself with Jesus and what he says about the poor and just have no other domestic concerns than tax cuts for wealthy people.

I mean, these are good people. But this is not biblical thinking. What's changing -- and it is changing all over the country -- is a new generation of evangelicals are discovering the poor in the Bible.