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Ffc2
23-06-2005, 14:51
who knows how to take care of a 2nd degree burn and tell me how
Legless Pirates
23-06-2005, 14:53
Oh oh! I know!

A doctor
Sanctaphrax
23-06-2005, 14:53
Any reason or are you thinking of going into medical school?
but its ok....
Google is your friend (www.justfuckinggoogleit.com)
Pure Metal
23-06-2005, 14:54
running cold water for 10 minutes, ice, don't put anything else on it.

edit: a second degree burn, eh? what's that when its at home? :confused:
is that bad or good?
Cabra West
23-06-2005, 14:54
who knows how to take care of a 2nd degree burn and tell me how

Go to a dermatologist....
In the meantime, see if your local pharmacy has some Bepanthen or Betaisadona...
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 14:54
hey thank now if i could just walk 20 bloody miles
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 14:58
more advice plz
Carnivorous Lickers
23-06-2005, 14:58
If it was on me, I would have run it under the cold water for a long time. Then you need some antibiotic ointment and a sterile dressing-the ointment as a barrier to protect the damaged tissue and keep the sterile dressing from getting embedded in the wound.
A painkiller. And drink plenty of water.

I would really make an effort to get to a doctor though. How do you know its only a 2nd degree burn, but asking how to take care of it?

Its location and size are another factor.

burns are a nasty business. you need someone that knows what they are doing to see it in person.
FairyTInkArisen
23-06-2005, 15:00
run it under the cold tap for 10 minutes, then wrap a damp tea-towel around it, then go see a doctor
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 15:01
If it was on me, I would have run it under the cold water for a long time. Then you need some antibiotic ointment and a sterile dressing-the ointment as a barrier to protect the damaged tissue and keep the sterile dressing from getting embedded in the wound.
A painkiller. And drink plenty of water.

I would really make an effort to get to a doctor though. How do you know its only a 2nd degree burn, but asking how to take care of it?

Its location and size are another factor.

burns are a nasty business. you need someone that knows what they are doing to see it in person.i know it is cause its not just first degree but has a single blister but it isnt black or anything
Scipii
23-06-2005, 15:04
Go to hospital you fool!
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 15:06
Go to hospital you fool!im NOT going to the hospital just for i stupid burn
Carnivorous Lickers
23-06-2005, 15:06
i know it is cause its not just first degree but has a single blister but it isnt black or anything


Leave the blister alone. What burned you- hot metal, flame, steam, sun?
Legless Pirates
23-06-2005, 15:07
im NOT going to the hospital just for i stupid burn
The fact that you have to ask the question should make you think about going really
FairyTInkArisen
23-06-2005, 15:07
im NOT going to the hospital just for i stupid burn
you should at least go to the doctor's, he'll be able to give you some cream to cool it down and ease the pain
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 15:08
Leave the blister alone. What burned you- hot metal, flame, steam, sun?i was makin breakfast a bagle and when it was done i went to reach for it and my finger bumped the side of the toaster so yes hot metal
CthulhuFhtagn
23-06-2005, 15:08
im NOT going to the hospital just for i stupid burn
Fine. Die. 2nd degree burns should be treated by a doctor. They're pretty damn serious.

Why I bothered responding to a puppet I don't know.
Drunk commies deleted
23-06-2005, 15:09
No need to go to the hospital for a small second degree burn. If it's covering more than four square inches or so you might want to see a doctor, but if it's just a little burn you can run cool water over it, spray it with solarcaine or some other topical anesthetic/antiseptic mixture and cover it with a loose gauze bandage.
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 15:09
you should at least go to the doctor's, he'll be able to give you some cream to cool it down and ease the paini have burn cream
Legless Pirates
23-06-2005, 15:10
Fine. Die. 2nd degree burns should be treated by a doctor. They're pretty damn serious.

Why I bothered responding to a puppet I don't know.
Hey puppets are people too
Wisjersey
23-06-2005, 15:10
Hey Ffc2, have you taken time and actually read the books i suggested you to read? ;)
Carnivorous Lickers
23-06-2005, 15:10
im NOT going to the hospital just for i stupid burn


I was always like that too. I broke my finger a month ago and didnt go to the doctor till two weeks ago. I thought I had set it-he showed my how it really should be set. Now it will heal and I wont have a funny looking arthritic finger.

I have cut glass and metal splinters out of myself. I pulled one of my own wisdom teeth and have wrapped and crazy glued bad cuts and punctures that should have been treated by a doctor.

Looking back now-I should have gone to a doctor.

If you were my son or brother, I'd have you to a doctor.
Whispering Legs
23-06-2005, 15:10
im NOT going to the hospital just for i stupid burn

Speaking from the experience I had in my less than intelligent youth, I insist that you seek professional medical attention immediately.
Eutrusca
23-06-2005, 15:11
Do NOT break the blister ( if there is one ). Try to maintain the skin integrity as long as possible to prevent infection. If the blister breaks, make sure you peel away ALL of the dead skin, again to prevent infection.

Once skin integrity is broken, make a salt-water solution, dissolving as much salt into hot water as it will hold. Heat the water to just below boiling and immerse the burned area in the water as soon as you can stand the heat of the water. Hot salt water is the very best way to draw out any infection and speed healing. Repeat until the skin is free of any seeping and/or infection.

EDIT: I've treated more burns than I care to remember.
Scipii
23-06-2005, 15:11
im NOT going to the hospital just for i stupid burn

Your lookout however, I'm not the dick who burn myself :D
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 15:11
Hey Ffc2, have you taken time and actually read the books i suggested you to read? ;)1 its that what this thread is about? 2 Have you read the ones i suggested?
Carnivorous Lickers
23-06-2005, 15:12
i was makin breakfast a bagle and when it was done i went to reach for it and my finger bumped the side of the toaster so yes hot metal


That must be one hell of a toaster. I need one of those. I can put my hand right into my toaster.
FairyTInkArisen
23-06-2005, 15:12
i have burn cream
then put that on, i can remember my brother and sister having the same thing (from what you've described, a few blisters and stuff) from the sun, my mum just ran their arms under the cold tap for 10 minutes, wrapped them up in a damp cloth until she got some burn cream then she carefully covered the burns with that and she's a nurse so she pretty much knows what she's doing, be careful not to pop the blister though!
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 15:15
That must be one hell of a toaster. I need one of those. I can put my hand right into my toaster.its newer
Carnivorous Lickers
23-06-2005, 15:15
In my less intelligent youth, I was using a chainsaw while wearing shorts-I finished cutting, shut it off and carelessly allowed the muffler to touch my leg. I had a blister the size of a wallet, which I promptly popped. It hurt twice as much for twice as long once that blister was drained.
CthulhuFhtagn
23-06-2005, 15:16
i was makin breakfast a bagle and when it was done i went to reach for it and my finger bumped the side of the toaster so yes hot metal
Then you must amputate your finger. If you don't, gangrene will set in and you will die.
Wisjersey
23-06-2005, 15:16
1 its that what this thread is about?

No, never mind. I initially thought this one was about your prophecies once again. Please forgive me that I was mistaken about this. :(

I hope you get better soon, though, so that you can return to normal business. :)

2 Have you read the ones i suggested?

Which ones?
Ffc2
23-06-2005, 15:18
Then you must amputate your finger. If you don't, gangrene will set in and you will die.right.................... *amputates finger*
Evilness and Chaos
23-06-2005, 15:18
Seriously don't trust people on the bloody internet as to what to do with a medical condition, go to a hospital or see your GP or something!


With that said, I suggest you burst the blister then rub chilli powder into it.
Drunk commies deleted
23-06-2005, 15:21
right.................... *amputates finger*
Which finger was it? Can I have it?
Eutrusca
23-06-2005, 15:22
Seriously don't trust people on the bloody internet as to what to do with a medical condition, go to a hospital or see your GP or something!

With that said, I suggest you burst the blister then rub chilli powder into it.
He's already stated that he has no intention of going to either the doctor or a hospital.

Seriously, that advice I posted has been proven time and time again to work. I was a US Army Medic ( and a nationally certified Emergency Medical Technician ) for a mercifully brief time and used that treatment on minor burns to great effect. I also used it to treat the minor burns and abrasions my ex and my children got over the years.
Drunk commies deleted
23-06-2005, 15:23
Seriously don't trust people on the bloody internet as to what to do with a medical condition, go to a hospital or see your GP or something!


With that said, I suggest you burst the blister then rub chilli powder into it.
That's bad advice. Chili powder isn't very irritating and it's not septic enough. I suggest a paste made from dried habanero pepper powder and septic tank overflow water.
Vetalia
23-06-2005, 15:30
That's bad advice. Chili powder isn't very irritating and it's not septic enough. I suggest a paste made from dried habanero pepper powder and septic tank overflow water.

Then mix with with a generous quantity of paint thinner and gasoline.
Eutrusca
23-06-2005, 15:33
Then mix with with a generous quantity of paint thinner and gasoline.
Then sear the area with a match. :rolleyes: :eek:
Vetalia
23-06-2005, 15:35
Then sear the area with a match. :rolleyes: :eek:

What kind of burn would that be? If you had a hand, or body, or were still alive left I'd be amazed!
FairyTInkArisen
23-06-2005, 15:37
What kind of burn would that be? If you had a hand, or body, or were still alive left I'd be amazed!
well you don't leave the flames going for too long, you have to pour scolding hot water over them once you've set it on fire :rolleyes:
Eutrusca
23-06-2005, 15:37
What kind of burn would that be? If you had a hand, or body, or were still alive left I'd be amazed!
I just decided to add to the general level of mayhem and disinformation. Sorry. :(
Carnivorous Lickers
23-06-2005, 15:37
Then sear the area with a match. :rolleyes: :eek:


But be careful to wear eye protection- you dont want the grease spatter in your eyes when it cooks off.
Eutrusca
23-06-2005, 15:37
well you don't leave the flames going for too long, you have to pour scolding hot water over them once you've set it on fire :rolleyes:
ROFL! You GO, girl! [ high-fives Tink ] :D
Sarkasis
23-06-2005, 15:40
who knows how to take care of a 2nd degree burn and tell me how
I had a bad 2nd degree burn last year (to my foot -- don't ask!)
OK, here are my advices. I'm not a doctor. Please don't rely too much on this post. It's your own life after all.

A 2nd degree burn takes long to heal. Weeks. Months.
Expect it to be a long and painful process, especially if the burn is at a joint or friction area.

You need to bath your burned area in lukewarm water once or twice a day, to clean it and dry it. Add a spoonful of baking soda OR coarse table salt in the water. AVOID HOT WATER. It would make things worse.

Don't use bleach, peroxyde, alcohol, soap or other cleaning products. They actually slow down the healing process.

As soon as dead skin starts peeling off, try to gently cut it away. Don't tear it away, and don't remove too much skin at a time. If you keep the dead skin too long, though, your burn will be infection-prone.

Non-ruptured blisters can be kept as-is for a while. Just make sure no infection develops inside it. If there is a sign of infection, cut the blister open, clean it and dispose of the dead skin.

You need some neutral cream to put on your burn. They sell such white creams in pharmacies (just ask, I think it contains zinc and silver -- they're quite expensive though) but don't use anything that's too thick or that contains perfume/chemicals/aloes/vitamins. Cover the burn with a loose sterile gauze pad and tape it. Let the burn area dry before you apply the cream and the gauze.

Eventually, the skin will fall off and the area will be very vulnerable. Don't touch it. Clean it well. Don't take showers, and avoid hot water. If it's swelled or if there is yellow or green pus, go to the hospital.

Skin will start growing from the outside of the burn after 2 weeks. Sometimes, it takes 2-3 tries for the skin to take hold; this thin, fragile skin dies easily. Don't worry. Your body knows how to heal.

If the burned area is larger than a 2 square inches, you might need medical supervision and maybe a skin graft (especially if there is a "deep 2nd degree" or a 3rd degree area in the middle of the burn).
Hoefler
23-06-2005, 15:42
1. Put Ice on the burn immediately,
2. Use antibiotic for burns
3. Wrap with clean gaze and tape
4. It will take 3 to 4 weeks before it starts to feel better
5. check your burn every day and apply more antibiotic, clean gaze and tape
Vetalia
23-06-2005, 15:46
1. Put Ice on the burn immediately,
2. Use antibiotic for burns
3. Wrap with clean gaze and tape
4. It will take 3 to 4 weeks before it starts to feel better
5. check your burn every day and apply more antibiotic, clean gaze and tape

This is pretty accurate except for step number 1. Never put ice on a burn, only cold water for 15 minutes; the ice can cause frostbite on the burned area.
The Arch Wobbly
23-06-2005, 15:47
I've a question.

The cold water, should it be flowing cold water (if so, how fast?), or should it be like a bowl or tub of cold water with the burn submerged in it?
FairyTInkArisen
23-06-2005, 15:48
I've a question.

The cold water, should it be flowing cold water (if so, how fast?), or should it be like a bowl or tub of cold water with the burn submerged in it?
i think running water is fine as long is it isn't running too fast
Hoefler
23-06-2005, 15:50
1. Put ice on the burn immediately
2. Apply antibotic for burns
3. wrap clean gaze and tape on area
4. apply antibotic daily, change gaze
5. your burn should feel better in 3-4 weeks
:fluffle:
Hyridian
23-06-2005, 15:51
ah forget all this mubo jumbo about water and ice and such....

just go to walmart, they have everything. Their friendly service illegal aliens from mexico would be glad to help.
Vaitupu
23-06-2005, 17:43
I'm guessing since it was burned on a toaster, it is pretty small, so no real need for medical care.

I suggest running cool water or putting ice on it. This will remove heat and stop the burn from getting worse. Take a motrin or two, which will again, help stop the burning process. Pat the burn dry with a clean cloth. Put a burn cream on it (get some at CVS/Brooks/Walgreens/any pharmacy or large grocery) and wrap it in a sterile dressing (gauze and medical tape) Keep it clean over the healing time. If the blister breaks, wash it with salt water, remove the dead skin, and treat it the same.
Vaitupu
23-06-2005, 17:59
This is pretty accurate except for step number 1. Never put ice on a burn, only cold water for 15 minutes; the ice can cause frostbite on the burned area.
Well, putting ice on the burn is fine as long as it is wrapped in cloth and not directly on the skin. You should never put ice or a cold compress directly on the skin.
Vetalia
23-06-2005, 18:03
Well, putting ice on the burn is fine as long as it is wrapped in cloth and not directly on the skin. You should never put ice or a cold compress directly on the skin.

You are correct.
Vaitupu
24-06-2005, 06:56
You are correct.
WOOO!!!

3 years of being a lifeguard, and this is the closest I've come to performing first aid beyond putting a bandaid on.