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teh evil s0y! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm)

And to think, some vegatarians wanted you to believe eating meat made you sterle :rolleyes:

teh evil s0y! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm)

And to think, some vegatarians wanted you to believe eating meat made you sterle :rolleyes:
Snigger... :p

teh evil s0y! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm)

And to think, some vegatarians wanted you to believe eating meat made you sterle :rolleyes:

I don't want to be sterle!!! Save me, baconman!

Anyway, isn't it a good thing that soy makes you sterile? No more veggies, stye of thing? :p

I don't want to be sterle!!! Save me, baconman!

Anyway, isn't it a good thing that soy makes you sterile? No more veggies, stye of thing? :p

Now that I think about it, that is a good thing!

*grabs a bullhorn*
Attention all Vegatarians, Vegans and other strange folk, please eat more soy! Thank you!

Now that I think about it, that is a good thing!

*grabs a bullhorn*
Attention all Vegatarians, Vegans and other strange folk, please eat more soy! Thank you!

You heard him, NSer's. Listen to the silly yank with yelling at a pissed off man-cow, grab a spoon and start shovelling.

Funny how that goes against the large population in South East Asia....hmmm.

Now that I think about it, that is a good thing!

*grabs a bullhorn*
Attention all Vegatarians, Vegans and other strange folk, please eat more soy! Thank you!

:headbang:

Are you inferring that vegetarianism is inherited? Sorry, no.

I'm a vegetarian, both my parents and all 3 of my brothers are not, though my oldest brother did try it out for a while a few years ago.
I don't intend force my husband or any kids we might have to be vegetarians, I should know by now that it is possible to be the only vegetarian in a household of meat-eaters.

Funny how that goes against the large population in South East Asia....hmmm.

THANK YOU.

As a vegetarian I think that it is awesome - maybe my gf can get off the pill now. I don't want no stinking kids - blech *shudders at the thought*

Funny how that goes against the large population in South East Asia....hmmm.

Except people in South Asia ate a healthy balance of meats, veggies, daries and such, not "I shall not harm a living animal, so I will eat a living plant instead" vegans :rolleyes:

When will the slaughter of innocent carrots and beans by these vegetarians be stopped?!

the article didn't say it causes infertility forever, it just makes it harder to concieve when you're most likely to.

so in that case, i will continue to drink soy milk as my drink of choice.
maybe even in greater quantities now. sounds like natural contraception or something.

(i'm not sure if that's possible, i chugged a quart of soymilk in 10 minutes a couple nights ago... ugh. not doing that again.)

Now that I think about it, that is a good thing!

*grabs a bullhorn*
Attention all Vegatarians, Vegans and other strange folk, please eat more soy! Thank you!

"strange folk"

what is so wrong with some people's food choices? it's not like it makes your style of life any less comfortable. live and let live, darling.

that is somewhat uncalled for.

it seems maany many people are naturally angered at vegetarians. I deal with shit practiacally everyday. I'm used to it. I think its cute when they make themselves look like complete idiots.

Sheesh. When I first read it, I thought it said, "Sex causes infertility!"

it seems maany many people are naturally angered at vegetarians. I deal with shit practiacally everyday. I'm used to it. I think its cute when they make themselves look like complete idiots.

Indeed. I rather enjoy seeing angry bigots make fools of themselves. Gives me a bit of a superiority complex. ;)

By the way, seems it only affects women, and only at times they're trying to have a baby:


"It's not a question of completely stopping eating products containing soya.

"But it might be best for a woman to avoid them for a few days around the time she is ovulating."

[. . .]

A spokeswoman from the Vegetarian Society said: "For anyone struggling to become pregnant, avoiding soya products for a few days a month is worth a try if there is even a slim chance that it will help increase fertility.

"Obviously many vegetarians and vegans use soya in their diet, however as there are lots of vegetarian and vegan alternatives to dairy, milk and meat on the market, it shouldn't pose a problem."

Sheesh. When I first read it, I thought it said, "Sex causes infertility!"

LOL

That would be a slight problem. ;)

Funny how that goes against the large population in South East Asia....hmmm.

Contrary to what soy companies have been telling us for years, Asians rarely eat soy unless it is fermented. Eating unfermented tofu or the soybeans themselves is dangerous, but fermented soy products like Miso, Natto and soy sauce are perfectly safe, and even have cancer-preventing properties.
By the way, it not only causes infertility, but also kidney stones, brain damage and alzheimers. Some of the articles here might help.
http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/aug/4/fermented_soy.htm.
http://www.miso.or.jp

it seems maany many people are naturally angered at vegetarians. I deal with shit practiacally everyday. I'm used to it. I think its cute when they make themselves look like complete idiots.

Ditto.

Indeed. I rather enjoy seeing angry bigots make fools of themselves. Gives me a bit of a superiority complex.

Yep. :D

What is the deal with some people not respecting vegetarianism? How, exactly, do we offend you guys?

The nice thing is that these things tend to word themselves out. :)

I don't know what amuses me more; The arrogance of nutritional experts who think that less than a century of data gives them insights into human health that haven't already been worked out millenia in advance by evolution, or diet extremists be they vegans, atkins worshippers or vegan-haters(What an odd thing to be offended by someone else's eating habits) that cling to the opinions of doctors and 'experts' who really don't know their assholes from their elbows.

Listen to your body. It'll tell you all you need to know.

teh evil s0y! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm)

And to think, some vegatarians wanted you to believe eating meat made you sterle :rolleyes:
interesting... since Tofu (bean curd) is used in Asia alot... and how many Chinese are there?

Contrary to what soy companies have been telling us for years, Asians rarely eat soy unless it is fermented. Eating unfermented tofu or the soybeans themselves is dangerous, but fermented soy products like Miso, Natto and soy sauce are perfectly safe, and even have cancer-preventing properties.
By the way, it not only causes infertility, but also kidney stones, brain damage and alzheimers. Some of the articles here might help.
http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/aug/4/fermented_soy.
http://www.miso.or.jpI was going to say Shoyu (soy sause) is used alot in Hawaii... no problems with infertility... but you beat me to it.

interesting... since Tofu (bean curd) is used in Asia alot... and how many Chinese are there?
It's a misconception. Chinese people don't eat that much soy products.

Ditto.



Yep. :D

What is the deal with some people not respecting vegetarianism? How, exactly, do we offend you guys?

It probably isn't the majority of vegentarians or segetarianism that pisses us meat-eaters off so much as the incredibly vocal minority that calls us immoral for eating meat and demands that we stop. By that, of course, I mean that its only the idiots among the vegetarian community that offends us, though I'd say pisses us off is a better phrase.

It probably isn't the majority of vegentarians or segetarianism that pisses us meat-eaters off so much as the incredibly vocal minority that calls us immoral for eating meat and demands that we stop. By that, of course, I mean that its only the idiots among the vegetarian community that offends us, though I'd say pisses us off is a better phrase.


Well rest assured that it is a very minor vocal minority. I don't know any vegetarian extreemists personally and I know many a vegetarian and vegan. I haven't met a single one in person who is interested in dictating what others eat.

Now when it comes to harrassment from meat-eaters when they find out I'm vegetarian, I'd say that 60% of them give me shit. Also I've seen about 20 anti-vegetarian threads since I have been a member of NS. I have seen a maximum of one thread that was trying to convert meat eaters.

So you see, vegetarians should be the pissed off ones whining about others attitudes toward their diets and beliefs.

although I recognize many of you have had run ins with protesters that were unpleasant to say the least and PETA members or just peta ideas that you detest and I say... you are right to dislike them.

I don't care about vegetarians.

I am on the Paleo diet.
http://www.paleodiet.com/
:D

Except people in South Asia ate a healthy balance of meats, veggies, daries and such, not "I shall not harm a living animal, so I will eat a living plant instead" vegans :rolleyes:

When will the slaughter of innocent carrots and beans by these vegetarians be stopped?!

But for centuries they were "I can't afford so much as a drop of pig fat to fry my beans, so I'll just live on unpolished rice and soy beans" type of vegetarians, and their population rose (with obvious crests and waves) the whole time despite wars and plagues.

LOL

That would be a slight problem. ;)

Not for teenagers all over the world. :D

teh evil s0y! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm)

And to think, some vegatarians wanted you to believe eating meat made you sterle :rolleyes:
Umm... then why is Asia so damn populated?

Contrary to what soy companies have been telling us for years, Asians rarely eat soy unless it is fermented. Eating unfermented tofu or the soybeans themselves is dangerous, but fermented soy products like Miso, Natto and soy sauce are perfectly safe, and even have cancer-preventing properties.
By the way, it not only causes infertility, but also kidney stones, brain damage and alzheimers. Some of the articles here might help.
http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/
http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/aug/4/fermented_soy.htm.
http://www.miso.or.jp
The first site fails to cite any of their articles... I don't know how credible it is, in one article it mentions that these studies were done giving such and such results, but never even says the authors of the study or the year for that matter. Also, does this guy have his own diet he's trying to sell us? I haven't explored much, but it seems that's what he's trying to do.

And this:
The existing medical establishment is responsible for killing and permanently injuring millions of Americans, but the surging numbers of visitors to Mercola.com since I began the site in 1997 - we are now routinely among the top 10 health sites on the Internet - convinces me that you, too, are fed up with their deception. You want practical health solutions without the hype, and that's what I offer.
Makes him seem like a bit of a crackpot.

Edit: I found the part where he sells his diet book...

"Soy causes infertility!"

*looks at Asia*

*goes back to his coffee.*

Cows can cause infertility too. :(

Umm... then why is Asia so damn populated?

And why are people incapable of reading 30 posts before asking a question already answered?

And why are people incapable of reading 30 posts before asking a question already answered?

Because questioning is easier than looking. I admit, I've been guilty of this before too, so I know ^^

teh evil s0y! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm)

And to think, some vegatarians wanted you to believe eating meat made you sterle :rolleyes:


It sounds like you only need to stop putting the tofu in the vagina, and problem solved.

If soy was such a problem, then where did all those Chinese come from?

Cows can cause infertility too. :(

You love it really, don't you?

It sounds like you only need to stop putting the tofu in the vagina, and problem solved.

If soy was such a problem, then where did all those Chinese come from?

LOL. Brilliant.

And Chinese come from China **Sage nod** true, that