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If you're looking for the money, here are the top 20 jobs in the US in terms of average annual earning:

1. Surgeons: $190,280
2. Anesthesiologists: $184,880
3. Obstetricians and gynecologists: $180,660
4. Internists, general: $160,130
5. Pediatricians, general: $143,300
6. Chief executives: $140,580
7. Family and general practitioners: $139,640
8. Psychiatrists: $139,300
9. Dentists: $131,210
10. Airline pilots, copilots and flight engineers: $129,880
11. Lawyers: $107,800
12. Podiatrists: $106,430
13. Engineering managers: $99,710
14. Computer and information systems managers: $95,230
15. Optometrists: $95,060
16. Natural sciences managers: $93,990
17. Air traffic controllers: $93,240
18. Marketing managers: $92,190
19. Sales managers: $91,840
20. Law teachers, postsecondary: $91,420

Well I still can't decide between wanting to pursue either Pre-Law of Pre-Med when I get to college...

Psht, nurses aren't even in the Top 20.

interesting... 8 of the top 10 are in the medical field.... wow.

not the case in the UK - an article last week in the times said that the degree with the highest propensity to earn in this country was Mathmatical/Physics degrees :confused:
i think the next was Law


doctors don't really earn that much in this country - probably a bad thing.
or, turning that on its head, are doctors overpaid in the US? :confused:

or, turning that on its head, are doctors overpaid in the US? :confused:
Not payed enough for the crap they have to deal with.

Well I still can't decide between wanting to pursue either Pre-Law of Pre-Med when I get to college...
Do both. You'll be in constant demand as an expert witness in medical malpractice, accidental injury and other cases. Should be able to name your own price. :)

Bah, Actors make more than all of them combined. ;)

Psht, nurses aren't even in the Top 20.
Nope. I wish they were! I could stop worrying about money and let the two RNs in my family support me! :D

Bah, Actors make more than all of them combined. ;)
Not on average. Most actors have to hold other jobs just to pay their bills.

Not on average. Most actors have to hold other jobs just to pay their bills.

Yeah ok, get all technical on my ass..lol :D

Not payed enough for the crap they have to deal with.
You're absolutely correct. Without a constant influx of physicians from other countries, the US would have a doctor shortage just because many avoid the field due to the constant malpractice suits. Keep in mind that most physicians pay through the nose for malpractice insurance.

Yeah ok, get all technical on my ass..lol :D
LOL! Sorry about that, hoss. I'll try to do better. :p

LOL! Sorry about that, hoss. I'll try to do better. :p

Hehehe, it's all good. :cool:

:p I'm going into psychology. Psychiatrist is up there.

Bah, Actors make more than all of them combined. ;)
yah. like acting is a JOB. or PROFESSIONAL. :rolleyes:

I don't want to get all teachy here, but how many of these jobs require post-school study?
Ohh...look! All of them!

Do I need to say any more?

Psht, nurses aren't even in the Top 20.
like that's really a surprise :rolleyes: although i bet american nurses get paid more than British nurses

like that's really a surprise :rolleyes: although i bet american nurses get paid more than British nurses
US nurses are paid on average, about $47,445 per year.

:p I'm going into psychology. Psychiatrist is up there.
In the US, you have to be a medical doctor before you can be a psychiatrist.

yah. like acting is a JOB. or PROFESSIONAL. :rolleyes:
Yes, and a very demanding job at that. Accurately portraying the behavior of another human being, often one with severe psychological problems, can be totally exhausting. And there are real hazards involved. Since your emotions are engaged in many of the roles you have to play, it can get rather confusing to the subconscious. Why do you suppose so many actors engage in serial marraiges or comitt suicide?

US nurses are paid on average, about $47,445 per year.hmmmmm.....that's about £26,000, i don't think nurses over here get that till they've at least reached sister or charge nurse, i'm pretty sure my mum earns less than £20,000, she's a staff nurse

well the States are going on my list of places to consider working in the future, i wonder how much nurses get in Aus and NZ

I don't want to get all teachy here, but how many of these jobs require post-school study?
Ohh...look! All of them!

Do I need to say any more?
Well, actually, these often don't require anything other than a public school education ( grades 1-12 in the US ):

Air traffic controllers: $93,240
Marketing managers: $92,190
Sales managers: $91,840

Ahh business executive, i'll be one of them one day, in 4 years when i leave school.

Well, actually, these often don't require anything other than a public school education ( grades 1-12 in the US ):

Air traffic controllers: $93,240
Marketing managers: $92,190
Sales managers: $91,840

The majority of those managers most likely have at least a business degree or MBA. Some places do require post-secondary study for their managers - or at least let them start out as managers if they have it. Thus, the vast majority of managers will have some sort of degree.

Yes, and a very demanding job at that. Accurately portraying the behavior of another human being, often one with severe psychological problems, can be totally exhausting. And there are real hazards involved. Since your emotions are engaged in many of the roles you have to play, it can get rather confusing to the subconscious. Why do you suppose so many actors engage in serial marraiges or comitt suicide?
pfft. if the above desxcription sounds like serious hard work to you, then just think what PORN actors have to go through. ten times worse.

If you're looking for the money, here are the top 20 jobs in the US in terms of average annual earning:

1. Surgeons: $190,280
You couldn't pay me enough to cut people open.
2. Anesthesiologists: $184,880
Same goes for sticking needles in people.
3. Obstetricians and gynecologists: $180,660
Come to think of it, the Medical profession scares me...
4. Internists, general: $160,130
See above
5. Pediatricians, general: $143,300
See two above
6. Chief executives: $140,580
Might take quite a bit of work to get there
7. Family and general practitioners: $139,640
Again, I'll pass thanks....
8. Psychiatrists: $139,300
Knowing the kind of people they work with, no thanks.
9. Dentists: $131,210
Uuh, hell no!
10. Airline pilots, copilots and flight engineers: $129,880
I read a study somewhere that said to the contrary, that pilots get ridiculously low amounts of pay.
11. Lawyers: $107,800
No offence to any lawyers, but I'd really rather not make my money off other people's misery.
12. Podiatrists: $106,430
Medical, so no.
13. Engineering managers: $99,710
Now thats more like it
14. Computer and information systems managers: $95,230
Definitely, this is my kinda work
15. Optometrists: $95,060
See repeated above many times
16. Natural sciences managers: $93,990
Not quite sure what this involves....
17. Air traffic controllers: $93,240
I'm not good with too much responsibility
18. Marketing managers: $92,190
This sounds kinda interesting.
19. Sales managers: $91,840
I could do this, but would probably get bored extremely quickly
20. Law teachers, postsecondary: $91,420
Again, no offence, but lawyers (most of them, not all) make me sick. Either that, or its the way John Grisham portrays them
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If you're looking for the money, here are the top 20 jobs in the US in terms of average annual earning:

1. Surgeons: $190,280
2. Anesthesiologists: $184,880
3. Obstetricians and gynecologists: $180,660
4. Internists, general: $160,130
5. Pediatricians, general: $143,300
6. Chief executives: $140,580
7. Family and general practitioners: $139,640
8. Psychiatrists: $139,300
9. Dentists: $131,210
10. Airline pilots, copilots and flight engineers: $129,880
11. Lawyers: $107,800
12. Podiatrists: $106,430
13. Engineering managers: $99,710
14. Computer and information systems managers: $95,230
15. Optometrists: $95,060
16. Natural sciences managers: $93,990
17. Air traffic controllers: $93,240
18. Marketing managers: $92,190
19. Sales managers: $91,840
20. Law teachers, postsecondary: $91,420

Hmm, I'm noticing a distinct and suspicious lack of the usual claims the economic left likes to make about rich people - that they're all criminal, thieving, capitalist oppressive scumbags. Maybe it's because you'd have to be an idiot to insist that these people deserve the exact same wage as a janitor mopping shit up.

hmmmmm.....that's about £26,000, i don't think nurses over here get that till they've at least reached sister or charge nurse, i'm pretty sure my mum earns less than £20,000, she's a staff nurse

well the States are going on my list of places to consider working in the future, i wonder how much nurses get in Aus and NZ
Lemmie know if you'd like more information. One of the best nursing schools in the US is just down the road a ways from me ... U. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. :)

pfft. if the above desxcription sounds like serious hard work to you, then just think what PORN actors have to go through. ten times worse.
ROFLMAO!!! Yeah, perhaps, but they are so into their work! :D

Lemmie know if you'd like more information. One of the best nursing schools in the US is just down the road a ways from me ... U. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. :)
i would really love to go and study abroad but i'm not about to pay for something that i can get for free over here so i'm stuck here for a few more years :(

Might take quite a bit of work to get there.
I hate to be the one to spoil all your childhood illusions, but that's true of every single one of the jobs listed.

Im going into the airforce as an officer, following my dad's footsteps
he makes 120k. :)

Actually I find it ironic that computer programmers were not on the list, as they make on average over 100 grand a year.

Ahh business executive, i'll be one of them one day, in 4 years when i leave school.
I suspect your expectations are rather unrealistic, but go for it. What have you got to lose? :)

or, turning that on its head, are doctors overpaid in the US? :confused:

Not at all. Somewhere between 15-60% of a doctor's (depending on location and specialty) salary goes to malpractice insurance. Add that to the years of student loans they likely have and other debt accrued when they were students making $20K/year, they're not paid nearly what they ought to be.

i would really love to go and study abroad but i'm not about to pay for something that i can get for free over here so i'm stuck here for a few more years :(
I don't blame you. The offer for information about the nursing profession in the US still stands though. Having two of them in my family has given me a bit of insight. I'm not sure how it is in the UK, but in the US some of the best nursing positions are with private physicians' groups. They usually require some experience as well as the nursing degree though.

Actually I find it ironic that computer programmers were not on the list, as they make on average over 100 grand a year.
In 2002, computer programmers earned a median annual salary of $60,290. Earnings ranged from the lowest 10%, who earned less than $35,080, and the highest 10%, who earned more than $96,860.

Hmm, I'm noticing a distinct and suspicious lack of the usual claims the economic left likes to make about rich people - that they're all criminal, thieving, capitalist oppressive scumbags. Maybe it's because you'd have to be an idiot to insist that these people deserve the exact same wage as a janitor mopping shit up.

That's because these people aren't the richest people in the world, they're just the most well-payed jobs on average. The big capitalist ones have the highest top-end wage earners. Just like how actors aren't on the list, but the famous ones obviously make way more than surgeons.

interesting... 8 of the top 10 are in the medical field.... wow.

not the case in the UK - an article last week in the times said that the degree with the highest propensity to earn in this country was Mathmatical/Physics degrees :confused:
i think the next was Law


doctors don't really earn that much in this country - probably a bad thing.
or, turning that on its head, are doctors overpaid in the US? :confused:

Actually that seems to be a very low average, but, internships I am sure lower it greatly. I know several surgeons that pay more than that just for malpractice insurance, and it is not uncommon for them to make in excess of a million a year. Is it overpaid? One could easily find opinions that goe either way on that subject. I think the bottom line is though, with that kind of potiential earnings the US has no problem with attracting the very best the world has to offer.

I suspect your expectations are rather unrealistic, but go for it. What have you got to lose? :)

Ummm... I take over my grandads business, so really not that unrealisitic.

I don't blame you. The offer for information about the nursing profession in the US still stands though. Having two of them in my family has given me a bit of insight. I'm not sure how it is in the UK, but in the US some of the best nursing positions are with private physicians' groups. They usually require some experience as well as the nursing degree though.
thanks

I hate to be the one to spoil all your childhood illusions, but that's true of every single one of the jobs listed.
Well yes of course, but getting to the very top of a company is slightly more difficult. It doesn't just involve seven years or however many med-school takes, it involves many years of working your way up through the company.

That's because these people aren't the richest people in the world, they're just the most well-payed jobs on average. The big capitalist ones have the highest top-end wage earners. Just like how actors aren't on the list, but the famous ones obviously make way more than surgeons.

No, I rather think it's for the reasons I said!

Don't dismiss something just because it's an average. Obviously more surgeons are well-paid, than there are well-paid actors, or otherwise the average pay for actors would be higher. And being well-paid does not mean one is a "big capitalist," though I'd enjoy seeing some real studies into the political and economic mindsets of high wage earners.

In 2002, computer programmers earned a median annual salary of $60,290. Earnings ranged from the lowest 10%, who earned less than $35,080, and the highest 10%, who earned more than $96,860.

Well I make more than that as do my fellow colleagues.. So not sure where you got that stat from. But no big deal.

Pfft.....I'm a computer and information systems manager and I don't make anywhere near that kind of money......

Pfft.....I'm a computer and information systems manager and I don't make anywhere near that kind of money......

How old are you? How long have you been in the business?

Im going into the airforce as an officer, following my dad's footsteps
he makes 120k. :)
He must be a flag rank officer ( General, Admiral, etc. ) with close to 18 years of service then. :)

Ummm... I take over my grandads business, so really not that unrealisitic.
Good luck. If I'm still around by that time and you need the advice of a good personnel type, let me know. :D

Well yes of course, but getting to the very top of a company is slightly more difficult. It doesn't just involve seven years or however many med-school takes, it involves many years of working your way up through the company.
The very best way to get to the top of a company is to come up with a unique idea for a new mass-market product priced at less than $20, create your own company to produce and/or market it, and work like a damned dog for a few years. Then you can retire to Malibu or wherever. :D

No, I rather think it's for the reasons I said!

Don't dismiss something just because it's an average. Obviously more surgeons are well-paid, than there are well-paid actors, or otherwise the average pay for actors would be higher. And being well-paid does not mean one is a "big capitalist," though I'd enjoy seeing some real studies into the political and economic mindsets of high wage earners.
They think "how can I hang onto more of what I'm paid." :)

Well I make more than that as do my fellow colleagues.. So not sure where you got that stat from. But no big deal.
http://www.education-online-search.com/careers/computer_careers/computer_programmer/computer_programmer.shtml

The very best way to get to the top of a company is to come up with a unique idea for a new mass-market product priced at less than $20, create your own company to produce and/or market it, and work like a damned dog for a few years. Then you can retire to Malibu or wherever. :D
Hmm, I could retire to Malibu, that would of course require me finding out where exactly Malibu is, so for now I'll retire to a nice old manor somewhere in the Leicestershire/Rutland area :p

http://www.education-online-search.com/careers/computer_careers/computer_programmer/computer_programmer.shtml

They must be talking about entry level.. cause seriously, I have fellow co-workers making well over 6 figures a year. Easily.

I don't want to get all teachy here, but how many of these jobs require post-school study?
Ohh...look! All of them!

Do I need to say any more?

Pishaw... I make more than the average for most of those professions and I don't have any degree at all. Nyah, nyah!

No, I rather think it's for the reasons I said!

Don't dismiss something just because it's an average. Obviously more surgeons are well-paid, than there are well-paid actors, or otherwise the average pay for actors would be higher. And being well-paid does not mean one is a "big capitalist," though I'd enjoy seeing some real studies into the political and economic mindsets of high wage earners.

Basically the point of what I was saying is: Are there any people with more than like $10 million who made there money solely off of being a surgeon? I don't think there are. But there are actors, sports stars, business men, etc.

How old are you? How long have you been in the business?


21 years old. Haven't been in the business too long, but I know what I'm doing.

Actually I find it ironic that computer programmers were not on the list, as they make on average over 100 grand a year.

False. The vast majority of computer programmers make far, far less than that. The very few who make over a hundred grand a year are very, very lucky and often times had to spend vast amounts of time in the less than 30 grand a year category.

Well I make more than that as do my fellow colleagues.. So not sure where you got that stat from. But no big deal.

For every person you can show me that is an actual programmer (versus one who has a degree for programming but does something else, e.g. consulting) that makes in excess of $100,000 I can show a roomful of programmers making less than 35000 in order to gain some experience in the field.

21 years old. Haven't been in the business too long, but I know what I'm doing.

Then give it time, you'll make more. :)

For every person you can show me that is an actual programmer (versus one who has a degree for programming but does something else, e.g. consulting) that makes in excess of $100,000 I can show a roomful of programmers making less than 35000 in order to gain some experience in the field.

Well I am a consultant as are the people I work with and not one of us makes under $100 grand a year. So don't know what to tell you.

Large corporate CEOs... where are they? Their pay, stock options, blah blah, hundreds of millions a year!

......

not the case in the UK - an article last week in the times said that the degree with the highest propensity to earn in this country was Mathmatical/Physics degrees :confused:
.....

Go analysts! :D

Hooray for rising demand and falling supply!

Sucks to economics graduates! :cool:

If you're looking for the money, here are the top 20 jobs in the US in terms of average annual earning:

1. Surgeons: $190,280
2. Anesthesiologists: $184,880
3. Obstetricians and gynecologists: $180,660
4. Internists, general: $160,130
5. Pediatricians, general: $143,300
6. Chief executives: $140,580
7. Family and general practitioners: $139,640
8. Psychiatrists: $139,300
9. Dentists: $131,210
10. Airline pilots, copilots and flight engineers: $129,880
11. Lawyers: $107,800
12. Podiatrists: $106,430
13. Engineering managers: $99,710
14. Computer and information systems managers: $95,230
15. Optometrists: $95,060
16. Natural sciences managers: $93,990
17. Air traffic controllers: $93,240
18. Marketing managers: $92,190
19. Sales managers: $91,840
20. Law teachers, postsecondary: $91,420
Strike the first 3 because they immediately lose $100,000+/yr to malpractice insurance premiums. :eek: :mad:

Well I am a consultant as are the people I work with and not one of us makes under $100 grand a year. So don't know what to tell you.

Fine, are you and all of your friends spending your time programming or consulting? It's a very important distinction. I am a fully capable programmer, but if you ask my occupation, I'll say I'm a consultant. Significant difference.

Large corporate CEOs... where are they? Their pay, stock options, blah blah, hundreds of millions a year!
Because "Corporate CEO" is not a "career field". You don't go to school (specifically) to become a CEO.

Hmm, I could retire to Malibu, that would of course require me finding out where exactly Malibu is, so for now I'll retire to a nice old manor somewhere in the Leicestershire/Rutland area :p
That actually sounds better to me than Malibu ( which, by the way, is in CA http://www.ci.malibu.ca.us/ ). :)

Pishaw... I make more than the average for most of those professions and I don't have any degree at all. Nyah, nyah!
And you do ... what?

Well I am a consultant as are the people I work with and not one of us makes under $100 grand a year. So don't know what to tell you.
Um ... you're overpaid? :D

Large corporate CEOs... where are they? Their pay, stock options, blah blah, hundreds of millions a year!
Those folks make up less than 0.1% of the total number of people in the area of business management.

So president isn't a job?

What's this?! No Bounty Hunter! Where's the Bounty Hunter?! I can't believe they forgot about us rogues!

No seriously, I have been looking at Air Traffic Control for awhile, what courses do you take for that? I'll be entering college very soon.

So president isn't a job?
No. I dont even think the US department of Labor has a "code" for it.

And you do ... what?

I'm an Enterprise Asset Management Consultant.

Well I am a consultant as are the people I work with and not one of us makes under $100 grand a year. So don't know what to tell you.

Um ... you're overpaid? :D

well my dad is a consultant in the compter programing industry in Canada and he get payed pretty well and even in US dollars it's over 100 grand. But that's also becasue a consultant can get payed pretty much what they want since they can set their wages (he also runa his own company, which is very small within the family)

If you're looking for the money, here are the top 20 jobs in the US in terms of average annual earning:

1. Surgeons: $190,280
2. Anesthesiologists: $184,880
3. Obstetricians and gynecologists: $180,660
4. Internists, general: $160,130
5. Pediatricians, general: $143,300
6. Chief executives: $140,580
7. Family and general practitioners: $139,640
8. Psychiatrists: $139,300
9. Dentists: $131,210
10. Airline pilots, copilots and flight engineers: $129,880
11. Lawyers: $107,800
12. Podiatrists: $106,430
13. Engineering managers: $99,710
14. Computer and information systems managers: $95,230
15. Optometrists: $95,060
16. Natural sciences managers: $93,990
17. Air traffic controllers: $93,240
18. Marketing managers: $92,190
19. Sales managers: $91,840
20. Law teachers, postsecondary: $91,420

that list should start at #2, after:

1. Professional major-sport athlete (PGA, NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, etc.): $952,724 (or whatever. hehe)

Well I still can't decide between wanting to pursue either Pre-Law of Pre-Med when I get to college...

MED! Please we have too many lawyers and too little doctors.

MED! Please we have too many lawyers and too little doctors.

ya so little you have to take away Canada's much needed doctors

ya so little you have to take away Canada's much needed doctors
Who takes 'em away? You don't pay 'em enough to to keep 'em so they leave.

Why go for a job earning a salary? The top paid people in the US are not on that list. These are the self made men and women. These people are the ones that drive the economy and make the most money. These are the people that start corporations and actually make the salaried jobs. But I guess if you want to shoot for working for someone else.....

Who takes 'em away? You don't pay 'em enough to to keep 'em so they leave.

hey at least in our country we let the poor get health care, unlike the US were you pretty much only get it if your rich. And it doesn't always have to do with the salaries, it's also the fact that the US has more hospitals, so more job offers that have more fexible hours (and this is from my anut who worked as a nurse for a bit) and not enough of their own citizens becoming doctors (and if you look at tution fees for post-secondary education I wouldn't blame them)

hey at least in our country we let the poor get health care, unlike the US were you pretty much only get it if your rich. And it doesn't always have to do with the salaries, it's also the fact that the US has more hospitals, so more job offers that have more fexible hours (and this is from my anut who worked as a nurse for a bit) and not enough of their own citizens becoming doctors (and if you look at tution fees for post-secondary education I wouldn't blame them)Hmmm... (looks in wallet)
I net under $17,000/yr. My wife has no medical insurance except Medicare "A", and a chronic medical condition that has historically hospitalized her for 7 - 30 days every four years or so. Her maintenance medications retail (generics & discount cards included) for about $1000/mo... yet we have never been denied care, nor have I had to declare bankruptcy.

Don't tell me US health care is only for the rich.

So president isn't a job?
Yes, but it's elected and there's only one of them, so the mean, average and median would all be the same. :D

hey at least in our country we let the poor get health care, unlike the US were you pretty much only get it if your rich. And it doesn't always have to do with the salaries, it's also the fact that the US has more hospitals, so more job offers that have more fexible hours (and this is from my anut who worked as a nurse for a bit) and not enough of their own citizens becoming doctors (and if you look at tution fees for post-secondary education I wouldn't blame them)
I still don't know where this utter bullshit comes from! Every ER in the Nation fills up on Saturday nights with the poor, the addict, the alcoholic, the illegal immigrant, and they don't pay a dime! :(

MED! Please we have too many lawyers and too little doctors.
I figured. Wouldn't know what field I should pursue. If I'm using the term correctly...

...I really don't want to be examining people's groins on a daily basis in some nowhere hospital in my home-city.

16. Natural sciences managers: $93,990

1. What is that, exactly?

2. Why don't these jobs get into the hard sciences until more than 3/4 down the list?

3. Why is an air-traffic controller (no offense meant to the occupation, by the way) paid more (by a hell of a lot) than a physicist?

3. Why is an air-traffic controller (no offense meant to the occupation, by the way) paid more (by a hell of a lot) than a physicist?
Armed Forces perhaps?

16. Natural sciences managers: $93,990

1. What is that, exactly?

2. Why don't these jobs get into the hard sciences until more than 3/4 down the list?

3. Why is an air-traffic controller (no offense meant to the occupation, by the way) paid more (by a hell of a lot) than a physicist?

Um, supply and demand.

-snipola-
3. Why is an air-traffic controller (no offense meant to the occupation, by the way) paid more (by a hell of a lot) than a physicist?

From my understanding of it air-traffic controllers (ATCs from here on out) are more likely than almost any other occupation, maybe any other, to become depressed and/or commit suicide. A lot of this has to do with the responsibility an ATC has. In a single shift an ATC is responsible for more lives than a surgeon will be in his entire career. If a surgeon makes a small mistake, you can't really expect more than maybe 2 dead in a transplant. If an ATC messes up he can singlehandedly kill hundreds and hundreds of people in a moment. As such the ATC has a very high pressure job. I know I wouldn't do it, even for $90,000 a year. I would also imagine that a lot of that money, for a lot of ATCs, goes to some form of counseling to help them deal with it all, whether it's actual counseling or alcohol or illegal drugs, it's a lot of pressure for the human mind to deal with.

Going back to the "legitimate" actors versus porn actors, you also have to remember porn actors have a much shorter career expectancy. If you're a stage actor or a movie star, you can get jobs when you're 60, 70, 80 or even 90 if you live that long and are at least semi-coherent. In the porn industry, however, there's not a lot of demand for 70 year-olds willing to get it on in front of a camera.

>>>snippy<<<<

Going back to the "legitimate" actors versus porn actors, you also have to remember porn actors have a much shorter career expectancy. If you're a stage actor or a movie star, you can get jobs when you're 60, 70, 80 or even 90 if you live that long and are at least semi-coherent. In the porn industry, however, there's not a lot of demand for 70 year-olds willing to get it on in front of a camera.
with the US population (esp/ the Boomers)rapidly aging, and the enormous amount of cottonheads we will have in this country in the next 20 years, the demand for old person porn will be HUGE. mark my words.

with the US population (esp/ the Boomers)rapidly aging, and the enormous amount of cottonheads we will have in this country in the next 20 years, the demand for old person porn will be HUGE. mark my words.
Sigh. :(

with the US population (esp/ the Boomers)rapidly aging, and the enormous amount of cottonheads we will have in this country in the next 20 years, the demand for old person porn will be HUGE. mark my words.

I don't think so. In my experience horny old men and women aren't attracted to people their age. That's why you have all these rich guys who are 60+ marrying these 20-something bimbos, old people like naked young people, not naked old people.

I don't think so. In my experience horny old men and women aren't attracted to people their age. That's why you have all these rich guys who are 60+ marrying these 20-something bimbos, old people like naked young people, not naked old people.
hey, dont use mid life crisis, viagra addicted assholes with the $$$$ to attract young chicks as an argument. no girl in her 20's dates a guy her grandpas age for the fact that she likes OLD GUYS. who are you kidding? aging, married grandparents are going to want to see their peers, in pretty good shape , getting it on. that generation has a distaste for fake silicone grapefruit tits, body piercing and tattoos. that siad, they dont really want to see many of todays porn stars. Eutrusca, what do you think?

not the case in the UK - an article last week in the times said that the degree with the highest propensity to earn in this country was Mathmatical/Physics degrees :confused:

I should move to the UK then.

*physics major*

hey, dont use mid life crisis, viagra addicted assholes with the $$$$ to attract young chicks as an argument. no girl in her 20's dates a guy her grandpas age for the fact that she likes OLD GUYS. who are you kidding? aging, married grandparents are going to want to see their peers, in pretty good shape , getting it on. that generation has a distaste for fake silicone grapefruit tits, body piercing and tattoos. that siad, they dont really want to see many of todays porn stars. Eutrusca, what do you think?
I think your agism is showing.

I make it a rule never to date anyone more than 30 years younger than me. That's how old my current is ... 32. And it's for damned sure she ain't datin' me for my money! ROFLMFAO!! :D

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I think your agism is showing.

I make it a rule never to date anyone more than 30 years younger than me. That's how old my current is ... 32. And it's for damned sure she ain't datin' me for my money! ROFLMFAO!! :D
you should know you are an exception to almost every rule out there. and your chick is HOT. i am not being ageist, i am just saying that people should not think that old nude people are nasty in general, because there are older people that dont mind watching their peers get it on. i am actually being anti-agist there, because i am not putting it down. i think if i said"the only acceptable porn is that which contains young hot singles" , then you would have an argument with me .

what about CEO's? they get like 1million or more a year for doing absoultely nothing.

you should know you are an exception to almost every rule out there. and your chick is HOT. i am not being ageist, i am just saying that people should not think that old nude people are nasty in general, because there are older people that dont mind watching their peers get it on. i am actually being anti-agist there, because i am not putting it down. i think if i said"the only acceptable porn is that which contains young hot singles" , then you would have an argument with me .
Hell, I'd have an argument with you just on general principles! :D

I'm an "exception to almost every rule out there?" What does that mean? Say more, please. :)

EDIT: Oh, and thanks for the "hot" comment on my g/f. You have NO idea! :D

what about CEO's? they get like 1million or more a year for doing absoultely nothing.
And you know this because you've been one? No? Then how do you know this, pray tell. :rolleyes:

what about CEO's? they get like 1million or more a year for doing absoultely nothing.

And this wonderfully informed and detailed post about what CEOs (there's no apostrophe when discussing plurals) do. Nor do they get paid 1 million. See it was up there. Yeah. Do you even know what CEO stands for? Chief Executive Officer. Yeah, see #6. Chief Executives. 140k.

There ya go. They do a shit-load of work. Work long hours. Work weekends. Responsible for tens to hundreds to thousands of people's jobs with every decision they make. Oh, and they get 140k. On average. Yep.

The list is missing some things like hedge fund manager etc… of course its not really listing anything that is considered ‘commission’ based so to speak outside of the medical field. That or they are only talking about the wages of salaried surgeons. Because frankly every surgeon I know in private practice is pulling in far more than 190k.

you arent some grumpy, opinionated, technophobic old guy that does nothing but yell at the neighborhood kids to keep off his grass.

you are really with it, hip, friendly, helpful, an AMAZING source of unbiased opinion, you are always happy to share your life stories and experiences with people, you can take a joke, you are pretty open-minded,you arent some oversexed- internet addicted weirdo trying to hit on young chicks, and most of all....you are really, really funny.

you arent some grumpy, opinionated, technophobic old guy that does nothing but yell at the neighborhood kids to keep off his grass.

you are really with it, hip, friendly, helpful, an AMAZING source of unbiased opinion, you are always happy to share your life stories and experiences with people, you can take a joke, you are pretty open-minded,you arent some oversexed- internet addicted weirdo trying to hit on young chicks, and most of all....you are really, really funny.
LOL! Thank you! [ looks around for that "embarassed" smiley ]

... you arent some oversexed- internet addicted weirdo trying to hit on young chicks ...
BTW ... don't be too sure about this one! I am, after all, "teh uber-dirty-old-man!" Got a rep to maintain, don'tchasee. :D

Strike the first 3 because they immediately lose $100,000+/yr to malpractice insurance premiums. :eek: :mad:
I'm a proud member of one of those three professions; I won't get that much money, but OTOH we almost don't have tort lawyers in Russia. :)