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That's right, I hate it all. I hate those damned republicans who are proud of screwing the country up. I hate those damned democrats who lie to us, claiming their some sort of saviours and bastons of free-thinking. All democrats are, are just a bunch of old rich white men trying to get votes by saying they care about the little man ;THEY.DO.NOT. I hate how shallow people act, when they try to get in to office.

I hate how no one -conservative or liberal- gives a rat's ass about the constitution. I hate that we haven't just repealed it yet. Why not? No one cares about it anymore. I hate that people can't stand losing and complain about it five years down the road. I hate it when a guy says one thing one week, and another the next in some attempt to court everybody.

I hate it when people try to limit someone else's freedoms, because they feel like bitching. I hate it when some lazy fuck can't take time out of their day to teach their kids right from wrong. I hate when those lazy fucks complain and we lose rights because of it. I hate that "politically correct" crap. I hate turning on the television and having some voice yell that I absolutely MUST buy their product, or that I have to see their new movie or show that I know sucks without even having to look up at the screen.

I hate looking at the newspaper and finding a picture of some bitch -who's name I know for no other reason than it being shoved down my throat- and a story about her breaking up with her damned boyfriend who never stops smiling. I hate that the real news is always shoved to the back of the paper. I hate the people who write stupid remarks about articles. Whenever I see the editorial, I want to find the idiot, that somehow got through high school, and stomp on his throat.

I hate those old men that say they care about me and everybody else, on television, yet they sport a grand total of five mansions. I hate those fairy tale losers who think all the problems in the world can be solved with socialism. I hate those morons who think every thing some prick in a suit says is true, because he said some sugah daddy in the sky said so. I hate it when idiots try to say politicians can't have religion. I hate the 22nd amendment. I hate Lincoln, his racist ass. I hate people who call him some demi god of racial equality, but ignore the fact that he: laughed at "darkie joke;" used the word n----r on a regular basis; wanted to send all blacks back to Africa; that he supported laws to keep the west all white. I hate those people that can't read, and think the Emaciation Proclamation did free all slaves. IT.DID.NOT.

I hate those people who piss all over the constitution and then turn around and say X is unconstitutional. News flash moron! A lot of things in effect now adays is unconstitutional! Thank ol' honest Abe and the federalists for that! Most of all, I hate those other countries too, with their elitist asses. Politics is a form of legal prostitution, and that's all it ever will be.

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*snaps fingers*

You go girl!


*blank look on face*

No...seriously. You go girl. Or guy. Or whatever you are.

Can I join in?

I hate that people refer to the Civil war as Nothern Aggression when the south attacked first. The North is kinda defending itself therefore.

Another thing I hate, that Polygamy is illegal even though making it illegal is unconstitutional! Congress shal make no law abridging the practice of religion! Guess whar it was a practice that was banned after said religion practiced the practice. Banning it is unconstitutional.

I could care less about myself being married with 2 girls (not really interested), but the constitution shouldn't be used as a club!

Okay, I think that all for now.

I hope most of these statements are products of pure anger, because it seems to me that there's a lot of indefensible bullshit in here.
That's right, I hate it all. I hate those damned republicans who are proud of screwing the country up. I hate those damned democrats who lie to us, claiming their some sort of saviours and bastons of free-thinking. All democrats are, are just a bunch of old rich white men trying to get votes by saying they care about the little man ;THEY.DO.NOT. I hate how shallow people act, when they try to get in to office.
Funny. I'm a Democrat. I actually do care about poor people. So do most people. And people who self-identify as Democrats are far more likely to be female or a minority than those on the other side of the aisle. If you don't believe me, read a statistical analysis of the last two Presidential elections.

I hate how no one -conservative or liberal- gives a rat's ass about the constitution. I hate that we haven't just repealed it yet. Why not? No one cares about it anymore. I hate that people can't stand losing and complain about it five years down the road. I hate it when a guy says one thing one week, and another the next in some attempt to court everybody.
You can't repeal the Constitution. You can abolish the government. But I doubt many people want to.

In fact, a lot of people care about the Constitution. Some people - they're called constitutional scholars - spend their whole lives studying it. Show me your evidence that people don't care about the Constitution. They do - they just interpret it differently.

I hate it when people try to limit someone else's freedoms, because they feel like bitching. I hate it when some lazy fuck can't take time out of their day to teach their kids right from wrong. I hate when those lazy fucks complain and we lose rights because of it. I hate that "politically correct" crap. I hate turning on the television and having some voice yell that I absolutely MUST buy their product, or that I have to see their new movie or show that I know sucks without even having to look up at the screen.
I agree with the sentiment, but come on. You could explain why censorship is bad without sounding stupid in the process.

I hate looking at the newspaper and finding a picture of some bitch -who's name I know for no other reason than it being shoved down my throat- and a story about her breaking up with her damned boyfriend who never stops smiling. I hate that the real news is always shoved to the back of the paper. I hate the people who write stupid remarks about articles. Whenever I see the editorial, I want to find the idiot, that somehow got through high school, and stomp on his throat.
See the last quote. There are lots of reasons why the cult of celebrity is bad that weren't expressed in this post.

I hate those old men that say they care about me and everybody else, on television, yet they sport a grand total of five mansions. I hate those fairy tale losers who think all the problems in the world can be solved with socialism. I hate those morons who think every thing some prick in a suit says is true, because he said some sugah daddy in the sky said so. I hate it when idiots try to say politicians can't have religion. I hate the 22nd amendment.
I smell contradiction. You're mad at people for being rich, and then decry socialism? These people think capitalism is good, and people should be rewarded for success, but other people shouldn't be thrown in the trash and discarded. That makes perfect sense to me.

The 22nd Amendment is one of the best things to happen to America in a while. A third term of Bush is, well, an unspeakably bad prospect.

I hate Lincoln, his racist ass. I hate people who call him some demi god of racial equality, but ignore the fact that he: laughed at "darkie joke;" used the word n----r on a regular basis; wanted to send all blacks back to Africa; that he supported laws to keep the west all white. I hate those people that can't read, and think the Emaciation Proclamation did free all slaves. IT.DID.NOT.
So Lincoln was a racist because he adopted the conventions of the time in personal conversations? Guess what - it's hard to find anyone then that didn't do the same things. Plenty of people who aren't racist laugh at racist jokes. The n word then had none of the derogatory sting it does now. He thought that America was a bad place for blacks because of white prejudice. Show me the evidence for your last assertion. He supported keeping the West slave-free - that doesn't mean black-free. If he does, it was in keeping with the Back-To-Africa sentiments. You're right about the Emancipation Proclamation - but it did free the vast majority of them.

I hate those people who piss all over the constitution and then turn around and say X is unconstitutional. News flash moron! A lot of things in effect now adays is unconstitutional! Thank ol' honest Abe and the federalists for that! Most of all, I hate those other countries too, with their elitist asses. Politics is a form of legal prostitution, and that's all it ever will be.
You're flat out wrong. Tell me what of Lincoln's legacy is unconstitutional. More to the point, look up the word federalist. In lower case, it means someone who supports a balance of power between the federal government and local provinces, regions, or states.

How is every other country elitist?

Politics is necessary for human survival.

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All democrats are, are just a bunch of old rich white men trying to get votes by saying they care about the little man ;THEY.DO.NOT. I hate how shallow people act, when they try to get in to office.

Not quite, there's Nancy Pelosi, Barb Boxer, Barb Lee, Maxine Walters, Diane Fienstien, Hillary (I'm not really a socialist) Clinton, Barbara Milulski, Sheila Jackson Lee, Cynthia McKinney, and Barney Frank right in there with em.

Another thing I hate, that Polygamy is illegal even though making it illegal is unconstitutional! Congress shal make no law abridging the practice of religion! Guess whar it was a practice that was banned after said religion practiced the practice. Banning it is unconstitutional.

CONGRESS shall make no law, etc., etc., etc.

However, the Constitution is INTERPRETED by the Supreme Court.

So, the Constitution means what it is INTERPRETED to mean.

And the Supreme Court said that laws against polygamy aren't unconstitutional.

http://www.polygamyinfo.com/law.htm

I hope most of these statements are products of pure anger, because it seems to me that there's a lot of indefensible bullshit in here.

Funny. I'm a Democrat. I actually do care about poor people. So do most people. And people who self-identify as Democrats are far more likely to be female or a minority than those on the other side of the aisle. If you don't believe me, read a statistical analysis of the last two Presidential elections.


Er, I think he's referring to the Democrats in the government, like Senators and crap, the politicians...You know, the ones who usually really couldn't give a rats ass about the guy down the street until election time?

Another thing I hate, that Polygamy is illegal even though making it illegal is unconstitutional! Congress shal make no law abridging the practice of religion! Guess whar it was a practice that was banned after said religion practiced the practice. Banning it is unconstitutional.
That's a simplistic reading of the law. Just like you can't shout fire in a crowded building, you can't murder me if your religion calls for human sacrifice. Polygamy is, in most cases, a chance for the man to dominate and control a group of women. Read the Court decision banning it. Their reasoning is quite solid.

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Personally, I think you're full of it. You have the right topics, but... the wrong interpretation.

Yet another 'I Hate America' wanker.

Er, I think he's referring to the Democrats in the government, like Senators and crap, the politicians...You know, the ones who usually really couldn't give a rats ass about the guy down the street until election time?
I know that's what he/she may have meant - but that's not what they wrote. "All democrats are..." People are responsible for what they say.

There's a lot I could say because the rant was generalized hogwash (yes...I said hogwash). But I'll pick out some of my favorites.

You're flat out wrong. Tell me what of Lincoln's legacy is unconstitutional.

Well....he did sort of suspend habeus corpus for a long period of time. I would consider that unconstitutional.

I it when some lazy can't take time out of their day to teach their kids right from wrong.

I would think that's pretty straightforward too. Except many Americans and/or PC liberals are moral relativists. Right and wrong confuses them...

I how no one -conservative or liberal- gives a rat's ass about the constitution.

:rolleyes:

I those fairy tale losers who think all the problems in the world can be solved with socialism.

AGREED.

I it when a guy says one thing one week, and another the next in some attempt to court everybody.

Reminds me of....Kerry! FLIP FLOP. Boy was that fun. :p

I turning on the television and having some voice yell that I absolutely MUST buy their product, or that I have to see their new movie or show that I know sucks without even having to look up at the screen.

You may it, but advertising helps our economy. Which in turn helps you.

Well....he did sort of suspend habeus corpus for a long period of time. I would consider that unconstitutional.
The word is legacy.

I would think that's pretty straightforward too. Except many Americans and/or PC liberals are moral relativists. Right and wrong confuses them...
That's because your standards of right and wrong are arbitrary. By what moral code is homosexuality considered to be wrong? And why is that the correct moral code? The way right and wrong are deployed in current American politics is disgustingly infantile.

Reminds me of....Kerry! FLIP FLOP. Boy was that fun. :p
The flip-flop is the political science equivalent of a soundbite - a quick and easy idea to understand that innacurately represents the actual issue.

You may it, but advertising helps our economy. Which in turn helps you.
Not always true, on two levels. Some ad campaigns actually hurt their companies (probably not the majority though). And a faster-growing economy doesn't help everyone. Just look at China and India.

I hope most of these statements are products of pure anger, because it seems to me that there's a lot of indefensible bullshit in here.

"Funny. I'm a Democrat. I actually do care about poor people. So do most people. And people who self-identify as Democrats are far more likely to be female or a minority than those on the other side of the aisle. If you don't believe me, read a statistical analysis of the last two Presidential elections."
Talking about the guys up top, not you.


"You can't repeal the Constitution. You can abolish the government. But I doubt many people want to.

In fact, a lot of people care about the Constitution. Some people - they're called constitutional scholars - spend their whole lives studying it. Show me your evidence that people don't care about the Constitution. They do - they just interpret it differently."

Funny, you prove my point right here.
"The 22nd Amendment is one of the best things to happen to America in a while. A third term of Bush is, well, an unspeakably bad prospect."
Sorry, but by restricting the number of terms someone can be in office, you've restricted freedom. If the people want a legal dictator, fine. They vote for what they want.


"I smell contradiction. You're mad at people for being rich, and then decry socialism? These people think capitalism is good, and people should be rewarded for success, but other people shouldn't be thrown in the trash and discarded. That makes perfect sense to me."
Mad at extremes, no contradiction.

"The 22nd Amendment is one of the best things to happen to America in a while. A third term of Bush is, well, an unspeakably bad prospect."
See above.


S"o Lincoln was a racist because he adopted the conventions of the time in personal conversations? Guess what - it's hard to find anyone then that didn't do the same things. Plenty of people who aren't racist laugh at racist jokes. The n word then had none of the derogatory sting it does now. He thought that America was a bad place for blacks because of white prejudice. Show me the evidence for your last assertion. He supported keeping the West slave-free - that doesn't mean black-free. If he does, it was in keeping with the Back-To-Africa sentiments. You're right about the Emancipation Proclamation - but it did free the vast majority of them."

Sorry, but...

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa082800a.htm

I'll take your attention to this passage.

"Lincoln was forced into issuing by the powerful abolitionist wing of his own party. Bennett asserts that Lincoln carefully worded the document to apply only to the rebel Southern states, which were not under Union control at the time, thus resulting in an Emancipation Proclamation that did not in itself free a single slave."

http://www.endoftheoregontrail.org/slavery.html

"Another exclusion law was passed in September, 1849, which simply forbade blacks from settling in the newly-declared Oregon Territory. Any already in residence were permitted to stay. In 1851, Jacob Vanderpool, a Salem boarding house and saloon owner, became the only person known to have been exiled from the Territory under Oregon's exclusion laws. The law under which he was charged and sentenced was repealed in 1854.

Oregon ratified its state constitution in November, 1857. On the popular ballot for the constitution, there were also two other referendum issues on which citizens were asked to vote. Oregonians rejected slavery but approved adding a new exclusion law to the constitution. This law became part of Oregon's original Bill of Rights."

"Both Illinois and Indiana had exclusion laws on the books in the Nineteenth Century, and all four states denied free blacks the right to vote and restricted their ability to testify in court. Some state and local laws required blacks to post a bond to guarantee their good behavior or to produce proof of their freedom upon the demand of any white person."



"You're flat out wrong. Tell me what of Lincoln's legacy is unconstitutional. More to the point, look up the word federalist. In lower case, it means someone who supports a balance of power between the federal government and local provinces, regions, or states."

This part was all out of anger.

"How is every other country elitist?"

So was this.

"Politics is necessary for human survival."

Really? When did I say it wasn't?

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Not quite, there's Nancy Pelosi, Barb Boxer, Barb Lee, Maxine Walters, Diane Fienstien, Hillary (I'm not really a socialist) Clinton, Barbara Milulski, Sheila Jackson Lee, Cynthia McKinney, and Barney Frank right in there with em.
Why not just give him a URL for a list of the leadership of the Democratic Party? In actual truth, there are currently more non-white and female people in Cabinet Level posts than ever before, and certainly more than under any Democratic administration.

Funny, you prove my point right here.
"The 22nd Amendment is one of the best things to happen to America in a while. A third term of Bush is, well, an unspeakably bad prospect."
Sorry, but by restricting the number of terms someone can be in office, you've restricted freedom. If the people want a legal dictator, fine. They vote for what they want.
I was under the impression that the constitution doesn't protect every freedom. The USFG passes a law banning murder. They've restricted freedom. This freedom is not constitutionally protected. As a justice once said, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact." It doesn't provide for the demise of freedom via autocracy. And if they really want what you're talking about, they can pass a constitutional amendment abolishing elections, which is a much safer process for this sort of thing than a Presidential election.

Mad at extremes, no contradiction.
That contradicts a tad with your absolute freedom routine above.

"Lincoln was forced into issuing by the powerful abolitionist wing of his own party. Bennett asserts that Lincoln carefully worded the document to apply only to the rebel Southern states, which were not under Union control at the time, thus resulting in an Emancipation Proclamation that did not in itself free a single slave."
Be more legalistic. The federal government still claimed the states as being part of the union. Therefore, slavery was abolished in the majority of the states in the Union. If there were no Emancipation Proclamation, slavery still would have existed in areas taken by Union troops during the war. Every Union advance meant more slaves freed. Further, it made the Northern war goal the abolition of slavery in the South, because that was the result if the North won the war post-proclamation.

*snip the detailed info on the West bit*
Where's the evidence linking Lincoln to those laws? If you're looking for me to say that they were good laws, you're looking in the wrong place. No arguments from this corner.

So was this.
Huzwhat?

Really? When did I say it wasn't?
You said politics is prostitution and we should say out of it. I said that attitude was bad.

I hate republicans because they want into my wallet too badly and I hate democrats for the same reason... I also hate republicans because of their religious standpoints... I also hate democrats for being weak willed pussies with no agenda other than what is best for themselves.. THey're too busy bitching and not busy enough DOING. THat's why I am a Libertarian. And not a fucking NEAL BOORTZ Republican masquerading as a libertarian, but a genuine one. Fuck democrats and republicans alike for their faux-moral high horse nonsense.

The only thing I hate is how our priorities are fucked up.

We are largely responsible for turning China into a world power - even though their ideology is diametrically opposed to ours. If Macarthur had his way, China would be an irradiated wasteland and would pose no threat to America.

I hate how North Korea isn't a parking lot - despite the fact that they have admitted to having nukes. Should we wait until they have ICBMs before we decide to act?

In recent history, whenever this country has had a chance to do something that would ensure leverage, we pass it up.