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Don't know if anyone has started a discussion on this, but I'm not gonna slog through umpteen pages to find out when I can just start another one.

So the whole list is here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8304725/) and i'm not going to repost the entire thing. It's not hard to click on a link for crying out loud. I'll post the top ten, and gripe about a couple that made the list that I think are crap, and then post a couple that are missing from the list in my opinion.

So here's the top ten:1. “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn,” “Gone With the Wind,” 1939.
2. “I’m going to make him an offer he can’t refuse,” “The Godfather,” 1972.
3. “You don’t understand! I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I could’ve been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am,” “On the Waterfront,” 1954.
4. “Toto, I’ve got a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore,” “The Wizard of Oz,” 1939.
5. “Here’s looking at you, kid,” “Casablanca,” 1942.
6. “Go ahead, make my day,” “Sudden Impact,” 1983.
7. “All right, Mr. DeMille, I’m ready for my close-up,” “Sunset Blvd.,” 1950.
8. “May the Force be with you,” “Star Wars,” 1977.
9. “Fasten your seatbelts. It’s going to be a bumpy night,” “All About Eve,” 1950.
10. “You talking to me?” “Taxi Driver,” 1976.
Hard to have a real beef with them, although I think 6 and 8 are perhaps a little high on the list for best ever in US films, but they deserve a spot. Here's a few who don't, however. 17. “Rosebud,” “Citizen Kane,” 1941.
25. “Show me the money!”, “Jerry Maguire,” 1996.
52. “You had me at ‘hello,”’ “Jerry Maguire,” 1996.
98. “Nobody puts Baby in a corner,” “Dirty Dancing,” 1987.
100. “I’m king of the world!”, “Titanic,” 1997.

As to what's missing: From Casablanca, "I'm shocked! Shocked! to discover gambling in this establishment." "Your winnings, sir."

From The Princess Bride: "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

Any others?

Where the hell is "Yippee Kay Yay, motherfucker"

"D'oh"

Whenever The Simpson's movie comes out.

I think the reason "Rosebud" and "may the force be with you" are on the list is because they are influential or well known, not because they are well written quotes in and of themselves.

You know, I can see the argument for "May the Force be with you," but shouldn't there have been room for "There aren't the droids you're looking for?" And remember, this is for US films only, so there wasn't a major snub of Monty Python. I imagine they made the world list several times.

Honestly, I don't think, "Frankly dear, I don't give a damn," should have been number one.

38. “Today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth,” “The Pride of the Yankees,” 1942.
This one ought to be DQ'ed, not because it's a bad line. It's a great one, but it shouldn't count as that wasn't a line written for the movie. It was the line really said by Iron Horse Gehrig during his infamous farewell speech at Yankee stadium. When they made the movie, they really screwed up the whole speech part. They rewrote it. I can't think of anything more fitting than just playing the actual footage and audio of Gehrig instead of having Gary Cooper read a bastardized speech. Gehrig's speech is one of the greatest ever. Why they ruined it is beyond me. I hate the Yankees and that speech brings me to tears.

I have NEVER heard number 3, EVER

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"Aeyughuaahhhaa" - every movei containing schwarzeneggar

Ihatevacations']I have NEVER heard number 3, EVER

"I'll be back" - Terminator
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You've never heard, "I coulda been a contender!"???

38. “Today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth,” “The Pride of the Yankees,” 1942.
This one ought to be DQ'ed, not because it's a bad line. It's a great one, but it shouldn't count as that wasn't a line written for the movie. It was the line really said by Iron Horse Gehrig during his infamous farewell speech at Yankee stadium. When they made the movie, they really screwed up the whole speech part. They rewrote it. I can't think of anything more fitting than just playing the actual footage and audio of Gehrig instead of having Gary Cooper read a bastardized speech. Gehrig's speech is one of the greatest ever. Why they ruined it is beyond me. I hate the Yankees and that speech brings me to tears.

By that respect, they should probably get rid of "Houston, we have a problem" too.

Here's one of my favorite quotes (all from Major League), that is funny, but doesn't belong on the list.

WM Hayes: "I'm Willie Mayes Hayes. I run like Hayes and hit like Mayes"

Brown: "You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit"



"How's your wife and my kids?"



Doyle "This post game report is brought to you by... Christ I can't find it. To hell with it"

You've never heard, "I coulda been a contender!"???
Nope, never

I don't see "We're on a mission from God" from the blues brothers either, that was great

And I quite honestly don't think "Elementary my dear Watson" should've coutned its like in every other sherlock holmes story, written long before the movie was made

E.T. PHONE HOME BEATS "Bond. James Bond."!?!?!?!?!?!1111111111111
What kinda mad world is this?

By that respect, they should probably get rid of "Houston, we have a problem" too.
I agree, they should.

Hahaha.
21. “A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti,” “The Silence of the Lambs,” 1991.
^That should have been higher on the list.

So many of these are from the same movies over and over... and some of these are so stupid. I don't know how they made the list.

Ihatevacations']Nope, never

I don't see "We're on a mission from God" from the blues brothers either, that was great

And I quite honestly don't think "Elementary my dear Watson" should've coutned its like in every other sherlock holmes story, written long before the movie was made

I can't believe what this world is coming to. How can people not have heard, "I coulda been a contender" before? Argh!

You've never heard, "I coulda been a contender!"???

Marlon Brando is memory serves. Quite a powerful scene for him, or so the story goes.

And I quite honestly don't think "Elementary my dear Watson" should've coutned its like in every other sherlock holmes story, written long before the movie was made
I haven't actually read teh books, but I've heard that "Elementary, my dear Watson" was never uttered by Holmes in the books.

I haven't actually read teh books, but I've heard that "Elementary, my dear Watson" was never uttered by Holmes in the books.
You know, that could be true, I thoguht he said it at least once. Probably bastardized from him saying Elementary all the time when any one asks him how the fuck he came to his ludicrous conclusion THIS Time

"Luke, I am your father," should have been at least second or third.

"Luke, I am your father," should have been at least second or third.

In terms of sheer popularity, absolutely, but I think they had other criteria they were working with. Specifically, the criteria that the AFI is a bunch of stodgy old men.

In case anyone's interested, the top 400 from which the final list was selected is available here. (http://www.filmsite.org/afi400quotes.html)

The list would be a shame and a fraud if it didn't contain "Rosebud." For several reasons-

First, it is the only thing that a lot of people know from that entire movie. That it is a well known movie and thats all anyone knows about it is enough.

But-

It is the mystery of that film-it is the key to the structure of that movie, how the story was created and told, and that movie awoke American cinema. (One can argue that it rolled right over and went back to sleep...). But as a key pin in that movie, something that identifies the movie for those "in the know" and those who just don't care-it is an important quote.

I mean, when you here someone whisper "Rosebud," you know what they are quoting.

I managed to do that without giving up what Rosebud is just in case someone has the chance to see that film untainted. Go me.

The list would be a shame and a fraud if it didn't contain "Rosebud." For several reasons-

First, it is the only thing that a lot of people know from that entire movie. That it is a well known movie and thats all anyone knows about it is enough.

But-

It is the mystery of that film-it is the key to the structure of that movie, how the story was created and told, and that movie awoke American cinema. (One can argue that it rolled right over and went back to sleep...). But as a key pin in that movie, something that identifies the movie for those "in the know" and those who just don't care-it is an important quote.

I mean, when you here someone whisper "Rosebud," you know what they are quoting.

I managed to do that without giving up what Rosebud is just in case someone has the chance to see that film untainted. Go me.

Peter Griffin -

It's his sled. It's his sled from when he was a kid. There; I just saved you two long, boobless hours.

We're gonna have to disagree on this one, CToaN, even though I respect your knowledge of film. It's just my lopsided opinion that "Citizen Kane" is vastly overrated--I don't even think it's Welles' best film. His version of "Othello" is far superior, I believe. Good film, yes. Great film, perhaps. But it's at the top of damn near every best ever list and I just don't buy it anymore.

That said, I'll give it a grudging spot on this list, although it would be much farther down than number 17.

Peter Griffin -

It's his sled. It's his sled from when he was a kid. There; I just saved you two long, boobless hours.
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Quality. That episode actually came on when I was doing a paper on Citizen Kane (you'd think film professors would be sick to death of Citizen Kane papers...)

We're gonna have to disagree on this one, CToaN, even though I respect your knowledge of film. It's just my lopsided opinion that "Citizen Kane" is vastly overrated--I don't even think it's Welles' best film. His version of "Othello" is far superior, I believe. Good film, yes. Great film, perhaps. But it's at the top of damn near every best ever list and I just don't buy it anymore.

That said, I'll give it a grudging spot on this list, although it would be much farther down than number 17.
To really understand you have to watch all the movies up until that point. It seems hackneed now because everyone imitated it. But what it did for cinematography alone...

Well, I could go on for a while, obviously...

To really understand you have to watch all the movies up until that point. It seems hackneed now because everyone imitated it. But what it did for cinematography alone...

Well, I could go on for a while, obviously...
Yeah--I know what you're talking about, at least in another genre. Romantic era poetry doesn't seem so groundbreaking now, but in comparison to what was being written at the time.... So I'll concede the point.

Yeah--I know what you're talking about, at least in another genre. Romantic era poetry doesn't seem so groundbreaking now, but in comparison to what was being written at the time.... So I'll concede the point.
Sweet :D And I learned something about poetry in the mix!

I can't believe it. Not a single quote from the original Italian Job or a Carry On film. And for some reason "open the pod bay doors HAL" makes it on the list.

It looks like they just compiled a list of those annoying "movie quotables" that the are put on the screen to annoy you before the adverts begin.

How in the hell could they overlook "you were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!" :rolleyes:

Ihatevacations']You know, that could be true, I thoguht he said it at least once. Probably bastardized from him saying Elementary all the time when any one asks him how the fuck he came to his ludicrous conclusion THIS Time

that was such a funny notion... :)

Marlon Brando is memory serves. Quite a powerful scene for him, or so the story goes.

The have 'STELLLAAAAAHHHH' but they don't have 'EEELLLAAAAIIINNNEEEE' (The Graduate).

How about, "Terminate, with extreme prejudice." (Apocalypse Now)

Cheers all!

Where is "I know it was you Fredo, you broke my heart. You broke my heart" ?

I can't believe it. Not a single quote from the original Italian Job or a Carry On film. And for some reason "open the pod bay doors HAL" makes it on the list. It should have been "I'm sorry Dave, I can not do that."

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room."
(alternatively "Mr. President, we cannot allow a mineshaft gap!")

and

"We're the pros from Dover."

I think those two should have been on the list. Amazing nothing from How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb made it to the top 100 list, that movie had so many great lines.

WTF?

No Scarface quotes made the top 10?? That list is not a reliable source for information.

"Say hello to my little friend."

what about the Apocalypse Now "Terminate with extreme prejudice." or "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning."

Terminator 2's "I'll be back" or "Hasta la vista, baby."

WTF?

No Scarface quotes made the top 10?? That list is not a reliable source for information.

"Say hello to my little friend."

what about the Apocalypse Now "Terminate with extreme prejudice." or "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning."

Terminator 2's "I'll be back" or "Hasta la vista, baby."
Sarface was 61, Apocalypse Now 12, Terminator 37.

try this link for the top 100:

http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/quotes.aspx

Baaaahh, this didn't make the final 100? Bah, I say-
HELEN BENSON (Patricia Neal): "Gort! Klaatu barada nikto!"
THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, Twentieth Century Fox, 1951

And I've wasted all that time campaigning it in my sig...

To really understand you have to watch all the movies up until that point. It seems hackneed now because everyone imitated it. But what it did for cinematography alone...

Well, I could go on for a while, obviously...
You're right ...but... one example:
I thinks it's annoying that there's so many shoots from low angle ->you can see the roof. The only reason for this angle was the fact that they could actually shoot indoors (not in studio, I mean) and they wanted to show everyone that they could. It serves no other purpose. Low angle usually implies that the person in the picture is powerful etc but they use it all the time, with all the characters.

Anyway, Welles was a genious.

You're right ...but... one example:
I thinks it's annoying that there's so many shoots from low angle ->you can see the roof. The only reason for this angle was the fact that they could actually shoot indoors (not in studio, I mean) and they wanted to show everyone that they could. It serves no other purpose. Low angle usually implies that the person in the picture is powerful etc but they use it all the time, with all the characters.

Anyway, Welles was a genious.
Well, yes and no. It was to create an imposing young Kane, and in later Kane he's actually shot from above, eventually making him tiny in his surroundings (such as the scene where he trys to convince his wife to get out of the house, he is shrunk by the size of the entrance, the towering statues and even the fireplace that he could walk straight into. Eventually he is crowded by the statues and looks like a mouse in maze of frozen giants.) This is not to say that there wasn't a great deal of 'look at me' in Welles' film making, (or anything he did) but it usually panned out to work with what he was doing.

I really shouldn't be on such a trigger about this...

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room."

*snip*

...Amazing nothing from How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb made it to the top 100 list, that movie had so many great lines.

It's on there - number 64. And yes, yes it did.

Well, yes and no. It was to create an imposing young Kane, and in later Kane he's actually shot from above, eventually making him tiny in his surroundings (such as the scene where he trys to convince his wife to get out of the house, he is shrunk by the size of the entrance, the towering statues and even the fireplace that he could walk straight into. Eventually he is crowded by the statues and looks like a mouse in maze of frozen giants.) This is not to say that there wasn't a great deal of 'look at me' in Welles' film making, (or anything he did) but it usually panned out to work with what he was doing.

I really shouldn't be on such a trigger about this...
Yes, again, but he used it also in shots where it did not serve any purpose (IMO). Have you seen The Trial? (made during his European years, 1960-something) It has a lot of scenes of how to make a man look really small. It's actually pretty surrealistic (like the novel).

Yes, again, but he used it also in shots where it did not serve any purpose (IMO). Have you seen The Trial? (made during his European years, 1960-something) It has a lot of scenes of how to make a man look really small. It's actually pretty surrealistic (like the novel).
I LOVE The Trial. My only criticism of that film is I don't understand why they swapped out the ending for the dynamite thing. The two men passing a knife back and forth would have worked soo well.

Thats a fantastic movie, whats not to love? Welles, Kafka, and Perkins. Fantastic. I was going to try and quote that door monologue(to try and return the thread to it's normally scheduled broadcast-already in session), but it's been too long to get it right.

I LOVE The Trial. My only criticism of that film is I don't understand why they swapped out the ending for the dynamite thing. The two men passing a knife back and forth would have worked soo well.

Thats a fantastic movie, whats not to love? Welles, Kafka, and Perkins. Fantastic. I was going to try and quote that door monologue(to try and return the thread to it's normally scheduled broadcast-already in session), but it's been too long to get it right.
:) I never remeber any quotes. (except very short ones, this parrot is no more etc) The Trial is my favourite Welles movie. Too bad I've only seen it once. OOOHH! 6£ in Play...Where's my Visa...

Man, as many people as like to quote films around here, I figured this thing was a shoo-in for ten pages or so.

Yeah, I'm a bump-whore. So what? :D