Another topic about humans and the world
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/
Humans tend to have a superiority complex. Those who think that animals kill just to kill for no reason and that humans are higher beings should watch this. Evolution buffs have no excuse for the higher being belief. For the Christians, did god send us here to learn and to grow or did he send us here to ruin things? Watch the video.
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The Holy Womble
18-06-2005, 09:17
Of course animals don't kill without reason- but they can often become agressive for reasons that have nothing to do with how they are treated. An animal can become agressive because of a hurting tooth, because of rabies, because it is feeling moody or because it wants to establish dominance when facing a new creature. Dogs the size of rottweilers and pit bulls have been known to maul children under 3 years old because of exactly that- trying to "re-establish" their place in the family hierarchy. (An average dog will perceive any creature lower than themselves as weaker, inferior and "lower rank" than themselves unless the owner uses whatever persuasion/punishment power they have to teach the dog otherwise.
It is beginning to annoy me that for some people the only way to love animals has become hating humans and idealising the Nature with a capital N.
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/
Humans tend to have a superiority complex. Those who think that animals kill just to kill for no reason and that humans are higher beings should watch this. Evolution buffs have no excuse for the higher being belief. For the Christians, did god send us here to learn and to grow or did he send us here to ruin things? Watch the video.
Human's are 'higher beings' in the sense that because of the complexity of our brains we're capable of a wider range of behaviours. As this video illustrates quite well, that's not always a good thing.
The Downmarching Void
18-06-2005, 09:22
I got attacked by a pitbull when I was 5. Took a chunk from my upper right thigh, requiring stitches and leaving me with a slight limp to this very day. I had a hard time getting over my fear of dogs, but eventually I did. I never faulted the dog that attacked me because I coul;d remember the owner mistreating it (chasing after it with his lawnmower, hitting it with a stick when it barked etc.) Even at that age I somehow understood that it was the owner who determined the behaviour of a dog. If I don't trust a dog its only because I don't trust the owner.
I still get alarmed whenever I meet a new pitbull or rottweiler, I think thats something I'll never fully overcome. But if I can see the owner has decent attitude and gentle demeanor, I know I can trust their dog to be the same way, unless it was rescued from abuse. The problem with dogs is not viscious breeds but viscious owners.
The Atomic Alliance
18-06-2005, 09:24
That is true, some people shouldn't own dogs at all.
It doesn't completely change my mind about pit bulls and bull dog breeds though. They do have a tendancy to "snap" more easily than other breeds, and when (or rather if) they do bite/attack, it ends up being much worse than any other breed (bar dingoes and wolves). I would never get one as a pet.
Owners do play a massive part however, and some can be incredibly callous and cruel
The Holy Womble
18-06-2005, 09:37
I got attacked by a pitbull when I was 5. Took a chunk from my upper right thigh, requiring stitches and leaving me with a slight limp to this very day.
Interesting. I have heard a theory that when dogs attack children, it is the same as when they bite their own puppies to "keep them in line". They usually bite the rear legs and increase the biting strength until the puppy begins to either limp or imitate limping- a sign for "I surrender, please don't bite me again". But since children do not have the same instinctive reactions as puppies, the dog may continue to attack a child until it causes serious damage.
The question is: Who is the real lower being? The "lower" ones that are born to lovae and please or the "higher" ones who tend to kill and abuse for pleasure. When was the last time a healthy wolf atacked a person just for the hell of it? When was the last time a healthy person killed numerous animals for "sport"? Humans are complex. So are dogs. So are wolves. We view ourselves as superior only because we only understand part of ourselves and little of anything else. Plus, that video was kinda sad. I only saw it twice and I felt worse the second time.