NationStates Jolt Archive


The Iranians had an election!

Marrakech II
18-06-2005, 01:36
Hehe, fooled you didnt i. Oh well they had a election alright. Vote our guy or else. So when and how do you think the Iranian current form of government will fall. I heard there were democracy protests in Tehran today during this false election. Do you think a stable democratic government could take over in Iran?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/06/17/iran.ballot/index.html
[NS]Ein Deutscher
18-06-2005, 01:38
Their government seems pretty stable to me. Not much worse than the U.S. form of "democracy". In the U.S. the GOP and the Democrats dictate who gets to run - in Iran some clerics decide. C'est la vie.
Marrakech II
18-06-2005, 01:44
very dilluted way of thinking. Very huge differences in how and who run the different governments.
Bunnyducks
18-06-2005, 01:47
Hehe... Vote our guy or else.
They did have some 7 candidates, 3 of them considered strong ones, didn't they? You may dissapprove all of them, but 7 (or even 3) is better than 1, right?
[NS]Ein Deutscher
18-06-2005, 01:49
They did have some 7 candidates, 3 of them considered strong ones, didn't they?
Yub. Out of 1000 or so, the clerics picked a few who they considered fit for the position. Seems plenty reasonable to me.
Soviet Narco State
18-06-2005, 01:50
Hehe, fooled you didnt i. Oh well they had a election alright. Vote our guy or else. So when and how do you think the Iranian current form of government will fall. I heard there were democracy protests in Tehran today during this false election. Do you think a stable democratic government could take over in Iran?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/06/17/iran.ballot/index.html
IT isn't exactly breaking news they have been having elections for years... Except with the Caveat that a council of religious leaders select who can run to weed out infedels. Their system will probably undure until USA stops threatening to anhiliate them thus forcing Iranians into supporting nationalistic islamic hardliners.
Alexonium
18-06-2005, 01:54
Hehe, fooled you didnt i. Oh well they had a election alright. Vote our guy or else. So when and how do you think the Iranian current form of government will fall. I heard there were democracy protests in Tehran today during this false election. Do you think a stable democratic government could take over in Iran?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/06/17/iran.ballot/index.html

They /would/ have had a stable democracy in 1953 and beyond if the CIA's goons hadn't stepped in to fcuk up the whole thing. There were already somewhat democratic institutions in place, they people just wanted to push the envelope.

And since one cannot stave off the inevadable, and since the people /will/ revolt if speach from the mosque is censored, of course they would eventually have an Islamic revolution!
Leonstein
18-06-2005, 02:02
1. Vote our guy or else.
2. So when and how do you think the Iranian current form of government will fall.
3. Do you think a stable democratic government could take over in Iran?
That's a little bit ignorant of the issue, don't you think?

1. There have been more moderate people up than ever before. It's been more every election for ages now. I remember last time when they banned a bunch of reformists people were very unhappy and they ended up letting some of them in afterall.

2. Never. More Reformists (like this one) will be elected everytime, and slowly the influence of the Ayatollahs over politics will disappear. And eventually, people will call it Persia again and not Iran.

3. See above.
Vaevictis
18-06-2005, 02:09
Once again, it's a gradual process. This election is a big step forward from previous ones, and the next will likely be yet another step forward. Change is coming about, just not overnight. It never does - how long did the US War of Indpendence last? And how long until the Constitution was fully ratified and working? Of course, you could just invade Iran and fix everything for them.
Kaledan
18-06-2005, 03:37
Iranians vote on many issues every year. It is an excellent example that shows how Islam and democracy are not fundamentally oppossed to one another. It also provides a working model for what home-grown Middle-Eastern democracy looks like.

And while religion plays a much larger part in Iranian politics than in American (though this seems to be changing), they have alot less governmental corruption than does our own. Remember, there's not only one way to skin a cat.
The Lightning Star
18-06-2005, 03:40
Iranians vote on many issues every year. It is an excellent example that shows how Islam and democracy are not fundamentally oppossed to one another. It also provides a working model for what home-grown Middle-Eastern democracy looks like.

And while religion plays a much larger part in Iranian politics than in American (though this seems to be changing), they have alot less governmental corruption than does our own. Remember, there's not only one way to skin a cat.

O_O.

You...skin...cats?
Leonstein
18-06-2005, 03:48
You...skin...cats?
Indeed he does.
In Iran they eat them, too...
:p
Keruvalia
18-06-2005, 08:40
Ein Deutscher']Yub. Out of 1000 or so, the clerics picked a few who they considered fit for the position. Seems plenty reasonable to me.

Meh ... they have Mullahs ... we have Caucuses ... same shit, different bull.