NationStates Jolt Archive


What dont you like about the USA that has nothing to do with goverment

RX-8
17-06-2005, 02:05
Discuss.
Leonstein
17-06-2005, 02:07
Untied States...hehe.
Either a nice typo or very deep satire.
Santa Barbara
17-06-2005, 02:08
It keeps tripping.
RX-8
17-06-2005, 02:10
Untied States...hehe.
Either a nice typo or very deep satire.
Hey I changed it and I had only one year of social studies in English. otherwise I had it in French because I go to language school.
Squornshelous
17-06-2005, 02:12
Our flag looks dumb.
Squirrel Nuts
17-06-2005, 02:13
I'm sure this is common in other countries as well but I hate how materialistic a lot of people are.
Dragon Cows
17-06-2005, 02:13
two words, both start with "M" McDonalds and Microsoft
[NS]Jamillian
17-06-2005, 02:14
consumerism, consumerism and more consumerism
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2005, 02:19
<3 the USA

too stoned to think of anything negative about it right now

some of the previous posters make good points though

lol @ our flag looks dumb
Exorbitant Radicalism
17-06-2005, 02:22
People graduate high school uneducated. It's ridiculous that we allow people to graduate high school without knowing proper English, basic algebra, and an understanding of geography. You go to college and have to be retaught everything because most people didn't learn it the first time. Yet these people have the same diploma as the ones who actually walked away with an education.
Vetalia
17-06-2005, 02:23
Our flag looks dumb.

At least it's not Libya's:

http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/01292047/libya/images/flag.gif

Still, the whole stars and stripes thing is pretty ugly.
GruntsandElites
17-06-2005, 02:25
Too many stupid people.
RX-8
17-06-2005, 02:26
At least it's not Libya's:

http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/01292047/libya/images/flag.gif

Still, the whole stars and stripes thing is pretty ugly.
I was just about to say that.
Squirrel Nuts
17-06-2005, 02:28
At least it's not Libya's:

http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/01292047/libya/images/flag.gif

Still, the whole stars and stripes thing is pretty ugly.
Well at least it's simple : )
LazyHippies
17-06-2005, 02:28
The people. More specifically, their focus on money and ignorance of the world beyond their borders.



oh, and their superiority/God complex.
Vetalia
17-06-2005, 02:32
Well at least it's simple : )

Must be boring on national holidays though...
Squornshelous
17-06-2005, 02:32
At least it's not Libya's:

http://wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/01292047/libya/images/flag.gif

Still, the whole stars and stripes thing is pretty ugly.

We tried to do too much with it, while Libya is too busy killing each other to come up with a good flag. Give them a few more decades and they'll have something better.
Leonstein
17-06-2005, 02:32
The absolutism of many people.
The belief that America is fundamentally different to other countries.
The disinterest of most about what goes on in the rest of the world.
Lacadaemon
17-06-2005, 02:34
The absolutism of many people.
The belief that America is fundamentally different to other countries.
The disinterest of most about what goes on in the rest of the world.

Like Germany, then, but without the attitude.
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2005, 02:35
Discuss.


This was a good question RX-8

.I think it shows that the problem with America in most peoples eyes around the world is exactly that: the Govt. - Something seemingly lost on all those people screaming of anti-americanism as if all these countries around the world as well as the terrorists don't hate us because they are jealous but because of the actions of our govt. around the world and fighting that doesn't come from killing people but from changing our actions..
Vetalia
17-06-2005, 02:39
The absolutism of many people.
The belief that America is fundamentally different to other countries.
The disinterest of most about what goes on in the rest of the world.

We don't need to be interested!:

http://www.internationalterrorist.com/artwork/s_trystop.jpg
Texpunditistan
17-06-2005, 02:40
People playing the blame game, not taking responsibility for their own actions/decisions and expecting the government to coddle them and wipe their ass every time they do something stupid.
Vetalia
17-06-2005, 02:41
People playing the blame game, not taking responsibility for their own actions/decisions and expecting the government to coddle them and wipe their ass every time they do something stupid.

You see plenty of the blame game in Cleveland, believe me.
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2005, 02:43
People playing the blame game, not taking responsibility for their own actions/decisions and expecting the government to coddle them and wipe their ass every time they do something stupid.

but that has something to do with the govt.
Texpunditistan
17-06-2005, 02:48
but that has something to do with the govt.
No, it would have to do with government if I had included "and the government for actually coddling and nannying the stupid people."

As my statement sits, it's all about people not taking personal responsibility for their actions/decisions. That includes their expectation of having their butts bailed out every time they do something stupid.
Beavermitzfah
17-06-2005, 02:55
I dont like that I live in it. I'd rather be living in Europe...even though I'm sure Europeans wouldnt want me there...but hey, Ill throw one of my fake accents and they'll never know :rolleyes:
Worldworkers
17-06-2005, 03:01
the only theng i like is the freedom to spek any language i want. but i love japan and it's flag is so cool and semple.and it languaeg is buttafull and the contry is just osam.and i am a american :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
Vetalia
17-06-2005, 03:02
I dont like that I live in it. I'd rather be living in Europe...even though I'm sure Europeans wouldnt want me there...but hey, Ill throw one of my fake accents and they'll never know :rolleyes:

The good thing about our accent is that I can identify one of my fellow
Americans (USians, Statsians?) anywhere in the world and get help.
Non Aligned States
17-06-2005, 03:06
Too many insane lawsuits. People are suing for stuff that should have been common sense and actually winning.
Texpunditistan
17-06-2005, 03:07
Too many insane lawsuits. People are suing for stuff that should have been common sense and actually winning.
That's just a symptom of what I stated earlier.
Soheran
17-06-2005, 03:17
Huge corporations, sports, television, materialism, religious nonsense, secularist nonsense, over-sensationalized media (this ties in with "television"), racism, sexism, ultra-nationalism, and a few other things I've missed.

All of these things could be seen as having something to do with the government, but so can basically everything.
Alien Born
17-06-2005, 03:35
The seemingly unquestioning arrogance that goes into assuming that the best in the USA is the best in the World. In some cases it may be, but not in all.
Hyperslackovicznia
17-06-2005, 03:50
Fish full of mercury.... "Could I please have some heavy metal w/a chunk of fish on the side?" I can't even eat my fav fish or shark or anything! :mad:
Takuma
17-06-2005, 03:55
the only theng i like is the freedom to spek any language i want. but i love japan and it's flag is so cool and semple.and it languaeg is buttafull and the contry is just osam.and i am a american
...this guy. I think he just reinforces the argument against the public school system above...

Obnoxious smilies removed.
Domici
17-06-2005, 04:01
<3 the USA

too stoned to think of anything negative about it right now

some of the previous posters make good points though

lol @ our flag looks dumb

Well considering your condition, maybe you aren't happy about the fact that we've got a bunch of people who think that "stoned drivers" are a reason to ban marijuana outright, but not alcohol?

Just a suggestion.
Shut Up Eccles
17-06-2005, 04:10
Hollywood for churning out nothing but crap (mildly entertaining crap, but crap nonetheless).

The fact you guys don't play cricket or rugby so we have to wait four years to kick your arse at swimming.

And the fact that your hip-hop kicks our hip-hops arse.

Oh and that whole media thing, but other than that I have no problem. I like the people. I like the scenery (although you should really be doing what we should be doing, preserving the enviroment better. But we're not doing a great job of that either), and I like the video games (although Japan does kick your arse at that, but we're not one to talk, barely even having a video game circut down here).
Creitz
17-06-2005, 04:11
traffic way too much trafic (or at least where i am in DC)
Takuma
17-06-2005, 04:28
Well considering your condition, maybe you aren't happy about the fact that we've got a bunch of people who think that "stoned drivers" are a reason to ban marijuana outright, but not alcohol?

Just a suggestion.
I agree with that.

Marijuana prohibition is just dumb. There's no justification for banning it but keeping alcohol and cigarettes legal, both of which have been shown to be more harmful.
Farrisland
17-06-2005, 04:42
Kids can't watch their Saturday morning cartoons without being marketed to rather aggressively every (what is it?) 8, 9 minutes. You don't recognize them when they're done. "Gotta catch them all!" Every other page in a magazine is an ad. Then, on the other hand, it might be like that everywhere. And of course the flag. I'm 'sposed to pledge allegiance to that thing?
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2005, 17:30
Well considering your condition, maybe you aren't happy about the fact that we've got a bunch of people who think that "stoned drivers" are a reason to ban marijuana outright, but not alcohol?

Just a suggestion.

Because of my condition at that time, I just didn't want to harsh my buzz by bringing negative thought into my happy world.

Also, I think that might have to do with govt. although I know the true reason pot is illegal is because of corporate influence *cough*DuPont*cough* on govt. so it's really a corporate issue huh? I dunno, I still wanna think happy thoughts - mmmmm chocolate.
SPRQ
17-06-2005, 17:33
i wish america's crime rate would go down. it's ridiculous how many rapes, murders, and robberies occur in america these days. can you imagine what life would be like if we could trust out own people?
Personal responsibilit
17-06-2005, 17:39
The lack of willingness to take personal resposnibility for ones actions, progressive moral degeneration, consumerism, entitlement mentality, disinterest in the well-being of others on a personal level, degeneration of the family unit, instant gratification drivenness of society, poor education, lack of knowledge about the world, willingness to react without thought, lack of appreciation of others... essentially the self focus that has attended most affluent world powers through out history.
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2005, 17:51
degeneration of the family unit

this is one I wanted to bring up before so lets talk about it, because I think that it isn't solely happening in the US but is seemingly most prevalent here.

What do you people think is the cause of this? It seems that is is teh cause of many of our other problems that you mentioned. I think it started when people started moving from small towns and farms to the big cities. The closeness was lost when everyones lives became too busy to spend quality time with relatives. perhaps it also has to do with US citizens having to spend more time worrying about working so that they can make the bare minimum to live on. This might be domenstrated as a possibility by lookign at other countries where they work less hours, have longer vacations and take long midday breaks from work to nap or have long lunches with family and friends, and their family units are much tighter and more loving like in Mexico or Germany for example.

I can't say I know what the facts are or that I have all the pieces to this puzzle, but I am interested in seeing what everybody else thinks.
12345543211
17-06-2005, 18:42
Our flag looks dumb.

Its a hell of a lot better than the competition. Look at the flags of; Italy, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico, Poland, Indonesia, SK, NK, Hong Kong, Russia, Japan. Just to list a few examples and look at the state of crapiness they behold.
Willamena
17-06-2005, 18:47
What dont you like about the USA that has nothing to do with goverment
Nothing. It's a wonderful country, in other regards, and I have quite a few friends down there.
Marmite Toast
17-06-2005, 18:49
Same things I don't like about all countries.
Whispering Legs
17-06-2005, 18:50
The beer sucks
Dobbsworld
17-06-2005, 18:52
The systems of measurement are totally archaic. It's the only place in the world apart from Burma that regards the Metric system with suspicion and open hostility.
Whispering Legs
17-06-2005, 18:53
The systems of measurement are totally archaic. It's the only place in the world apart from Burma that regards the Metric system with suspicion and open hostility.

what's interesting is that the US military has been metric for a long, long time - but the civilian US has resisted it.
Helioterra
17-06-2005, 18:57
this is one I wanted to bring up before so lets talk about it, because I think that it isn't solely happening in the US but is seemingly most prevalent here.

What do you people think is the cause of this? It seems that is is teh cause of many of our other problems that you mentioned. I think it started when people started moving from small towns and farms to the big cities. The closeness was lost when everyones lives became too busy to spend quality time with relatives. perhaps it also has to do with US citizens having to spend more time worrying about working so that they can make the bare minimum to live on. This might be domenstrated as a possibility by lookign at other countries where they work less hours, have longer vacations and take long midday breaks from work to nap or have long lunches with family and friends, and their family units are much tighter and more loving like in Mexico or Germany for example.

I can't say I know what the facts are or that I have all the pieces to this puzzle, but I am interested in seeing what everybody else thinks.

I agree. Grandparents, sisters, cousins..all relatives may live on the other side of the country. Family is much smaller than it has ever been. I live in a country which has long vacations and short working weeks. Yet the problem is very visible. We haven't used to live in cities.

I believe that many of those common mental health problems are caused by the way we are supposed to live. Work, get more money, succeed. I have several 25+ friends who are almost burned out. They have good careers and high incomes but that's it. They are not happy with their lives. Few of them have already decided to jump out of it and they seem to enjoy their "new lives" much better.

edit: One point is also the fact that many work on "abstract" industries. They never see the results of their work. Or the results are not that important for everyday life.
Laerod
17-06-2005, 19:00
I don't like the fact that we Americans tend to forget about what has been done to others in the past and then act surprized when they tell us they hate us.
Carthage and Troy
17-06-2005, 19:56
Draft picks in sports!

What a stupid idea, you are totally ruining the competitive edge in professional sports by awarding the worst teams with the first draft picks.

How ironic that the US is "socialist" when it comes to sports.
Carthage and Troy
17-06-2005, 20:01
Most American accents are pretty crass, apart from New York and Boston.

The general level of ignorance about the world is also pretty disturbing, especially when there is not much of interest (with regards to history and culture) within the US itself. If any people should know about other countries it should be Americans.

The garbage they put on television.
Florida Oranges
17-06-2005, 20:02
The abundant African-American population; I wish we didn't have so many of them.
Colodia
17-06-2005, 20:02
Wyoming. We can do without.

*coming from a Californian*
Colodia
17-06-2005, 20:03
what's interesting is that the US military has been metric for a long, long time - but the civilian US has resisted it.
Eh, actually, we're using it more and more. In high school I haven't used the standard system in like...ever. Neither in Geometry nor Biology. It's all metric.

And it feels no different from the standard system.
Marmite Toast
17-06-2005, 20:05
What dont you like about the USA that has nothing to do with goverment

People who let the government get away with what it does!
Xanaz
17-06-2005, 20:06
I think we could sure do without the extreme religious right in this country. They ruin everyone's fun! Burn books, try to impose their beliefs on all of us. Someone needs to remind them that America is not a theocracy!
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2005, 20:10
I agree. Grandparents, sisters, cousins..all relatives may live on the other side of the country. Family is much smaller than it has ever been. I live in a country which has long vacations and short working weeks. Yet the problem is very visible. We haven't used to live in cities.

I believe that many of those common mental health problems are caused by the way we are supposed to live. Work, get more money, succeed. I have several 25+ friends who are almost burned out. They have good careers and high incomes but that's it. They are not happy with their lives. Few of them have already decided to jump out of it and they seem to enjoy their "new lives" much better.

edit: One point is also the fact that many work on "abstract" industries. They never see the results of their work. Or the results are not that important for everyday life.

yeah, I personally think that the average Americans' view of what real success in life is is not truely in their best self interests. Somehow most of us have fallen prey to the idea that whoever dies with the most toys and the greatest amount of power over others wins, despite how stressed out it makes us and how little happiness (none) material success really brings.

Those in the city moreso though. I have lived the city life as well as the country life and the city life is radiaclly fast paced while the city life gives you so much quiet time and time for personal relationship with your friends family and with nature. I loved living in the city as well but it ages you faster and leaves you little time for much more than the most necessary life chores.

I think that city planners should think about this and try to shoot for plans that help bring communities together as communities somehow. I'm not a civil engineer (I think those are teh ones in charge of this stuff) so I don't have any real solutions.
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2005, 20:11
Wyoming. We can do without.

*coming from a Californian*


as long as you aren't advocating getting rid of the national parks, grand tetons and my family living up there. :P
Calipalmetto
17-06-2005, 20:21
Wyoming. We can do without.

*coming from a Californian*

I second that! (coming from the person a state down from it)
Festus and Buford
17-06-2005, 20:22
The fact that they never learn anything about other countries. Their education seems to be limited to their own borders and they don't know anything about their neighbors right next door or across the big waters.