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I don't know how many of you guys are going into medicine or are in medical school. I just want to know is there a fast way to get through pre-med and then medical school. I am trying to find some loop holes and would appreciate some advice. :headbang: :D

I don't know how many of you guys are going into medicine or are in medical school. I just want to know is there a fast way to get through pre-med and then medical school. I am trying to find some loop holes and would appreciate some advice. :headbang: :D

Um... don't you worry about the ethical implications of becoming a doctor with inadequate training?

That depends. Do you want to practice medicine in an effort to enrich the lives of people with debilitating ailments or as a way to scam people out of their money until you're convicted of manslaughter?

Man I hope I NEVER get you as my doctor!

Anybody who is so lazy that they want to find loopholes in the Med school system is going to drop out after one month.

No no no you guys got me all wrong! I mean like is there certain courses I can take during pre med so that I have taken them before I get to med school. I didn't suggest I want to finish in a year! I'm actually not interested in the money at all---I want to join Doctors without Borders

No no no you guys got me all wrong! I mean like is there certain courses I can take during pre med so that I have taken them before I get to med school. I didn't suggest I want to finish in a year! I'm actually not interested in the money at all---I want to join Doctors without Borders
Well you talking about loopholes and the touchy issue about you possibly being a future doctor kinda threw us on the wrong track...

The fastest way through med school is to go straight down the main hallway, past the library. Turn right at the snack machines and then a quick left down the exit stairs and out the back.

I just want to know is there a fast way to get through pre-med and then medical school.
Try it as a cadaver.

Um... don't you worry about the ethical implications of becoming a doctor with inadequate training?
Actually, most docs in the US are overtrained. The amount of practicing doctors that use the info that they get from a class like organic chemistry is relatively few. The AMA sets such high standards in order to help keep the supply of doctors low in the US.

Actually, most docs in the US are overtrained...
There is such a thing?

Actually, most docs in the US are overtrained. The amount of practicing doctors that use the info that they get from a class like organic chemistry is relatively few. The AMA sets such high standards in order to help keep the supply of doctors low in the US.


I happen to disagree. I think they're highly undertrained. There have been countless times I've had to help my doctor with my medication, diagnosis, etc. There are relatively few doctors I would put in a catagory that I would see them myself. I've nearly been killed by doctors. One handed me a script that didn't mix with one of the other drugs I was taking, and I knew that (he didn't) and I had him look it up in the PDR under BOTH drug names, and he grabbed the script out of my hand and tore it up. He was supposed to be one of the best neurologists around. That's why I see high end doctors.

50% graduated in the bottom half of the class... remember that. I think most are undertrained.

I happen to disagree. I think they're highly undertrained. There have been countless times I've had to help my doctor with my medication, diagnosis, etc. There are relatively few doctors I would put in a catagory that I would see them myself. I've nearly been killed by doctors. One handed me a script that didn't mix with one of the other drugs I was taking, and I knew that (he didn't) and I had him look it up in the PDR under BOTH drug names, and he grabbed the script out of my hand and tore it up. He was supposed to be one of the best neurologists around. That's why I see high end doctors.

50% graduated in the bottom half of the class... remember that. I think most are undertrained.


I'd agree, but add that the better MDs (and DDSs) here in Japan that I've dealt with have all been US trained. Also, there appears to be less oversight here, allowing bad MDs to remain in practice longer.

I don't know how many of you guys are going into medicine or are in medical school. I just want to know is there a fast way to get through pre-med and then medical school. I am trying to find some loop holes and would appreciate some advice. :headbang: :D
Yeah just forget about the whole med school shit and go to law school. It is only three years and you don't have to go through all that apprenticeship stuff. Or get go get an MBA you can get one of those in one year (after you get your BA).

The quickest route to a high degree of medical know-how might be as a special forces medic. But you might just be better off with med school. Certainly your odds would be better. What I might do if I were you, and deadly serious, is contact Doctors without boarders, and find out what you'd have to do to setup an informational interview.

The quickest way into medical school is as a corpse that people practice on, in and out within a day, plus you get a nice little tag on your toe... ;)

There is such a thing?

:D
Personally, when I take a spill, I want a Doctor with the most training and expertise possible.

I don't know how it is in the US, but here it is very difficult to skip parts of med school by taking single courses outside of the medical programme itself. Most of it is due to the fact that most of the courses in the programme are tailored for (clinical) medicine, that other, free-standing courses simply aren't equivalent.

About the whole issue about being "overtrained." Let's just not pay attention to it being said as part of some sort of conspiracy theory, and look at it for a second.

I myself go to medical school and I see the point that was being made, i.e. the one about us learning a lot of things that, once we specialise further down the road, we will not end up using very often, if at all. I can say myself that all the biochemistry I had to cram for during my second semester, only about 30% of it was clinically relevant, and the rest was just "interesting" in the sense that it allowed me to understand our knowledge of how the normal human body functions, and how certain pathological processes occur, while having no bearing on the type of treatments and diagnostic tools available today. The same can be said about a lot of the knowledge I have of pathology (but to a lesser extent): as a clinician, for instance, the knowledge of how and why certain types of HPV seem to cause cervical cancer is of no consequence to my spotting the symptoms for it and ordering the tests needed to make a diagnosis. I could still spot it and recommend a treatment.

Do I think it was a waste of time cramming all of it in? No, because what we know today is not going to be what we know tomorrow. All of that extra knowledge we hopefully manage to hang on to may prove vital for our ability to practice medicine in the future, as you never know what sort of "irrelevant" thing might all of a sudden become relevant.

Furthermore, not all doctors end up specialising in a narrow field (and even if they did, knowledge in other areas is never a bad thing), and many doctors end up doing research, where a broad spectrum of understanding is vital for success. Also, symptomatology is such a minotaurian maze that every bit of extra knowledge that helps me rule things out or in is invaluable for my ability to make a proper diagnosis. So, "overtrained"? There is no such thing.

I spent one weekend getting my PHD in LSD and now everybody calls me Doctor Feelgood. :D

I don't know how many of you guys are going into medicine or are in medical school. I just want to know is there a fast way to get through pre-med and then medical school. I am trying to find some loop holes and would appreciate some advice. :headbang: :D
IMO, don't try to to make your study of medicine 'easier' - it's much better for a doctor to have an answer to a question that disease can put before him than to seek that answer from his colleague who didn't skip anything. You never know what can be of help to you, especially if you are into 'emergency medicine' - I suppose that a DWB member can get into a real mess.

I am a doctor, by the way. :)

I don't know how many of you guys are going into medicine or are in medical school. I just want to know is there a fast way to get through pre-med and then medical school. I am trying to find some loop holes and would appreciate some advice. :headbang: :D


There most certainly is. State in your will you want to commit your body to science and then top yourself. With in weeks your body will be balmed and be palced in a medical school!