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NASA announces earliest launch to moon in 2015

Marrakech II
16-06-2005, 01:19
Heres another interesting Astronomy article. NASA's talks of Moon launch and International base on moon.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/06/14/moon.mission.reut/index.html
The South Islands
16-06-2005, 01:21
Why isn't there a vodka bar on the ISS for the Russians?
Vetalia
16-06-2005, 01:22
That's pretty cool; still, I think they should focus on Jupiter and Mars for signs of possible life.
Iztatepopotla
16-06-2005, 01:25
That's pretty cool; still, I think they should focus on Jupiter and Mars for signs of possible life.
I don't think the objective of these missions is finding life. There's more to space exploration than life. There are all those metals to be mined, for example, and the sheer sense of adventure and discovery.
Iztatepopotla
16-06-2005, 01:26
Why isn't there a vodka bar on the ISS for the Russians?
There was, but then McDonald's bought it.
Vetalia
16-06-2005, 01:27
I don't think the objective of these missions is finding life. There's more to space exploration than life. There are all those metals to be mined, for example, and the sheer sense of adventure and discovery.

Still, finding life would shatter 2,000+ years of religious belief, a possibly world-changing event. Plus Jupiter is my favorite planet besides (naturally) Mars.
Bunnyducks
16-06-2005, 01:30
2015?!? Be careful, or the Taikonauts are going to outperform you. That would be a shame.
Chaos Experiment
16-06-2005, 01:31
Jupiter is nothing. Europa and Titan are where its at.

By the way, isn't it funny how the most interesting objects in our solar system are a single planet and a bunch of moons?
Iztatepopotla
16-06-2005, 01:32
Still, finding life would shatter 2,000+ years of religious belief, a possibly world-changing event. Plus Jupiter is my favorite planet besides (naturally) Mars.
2,000+? I would have said 200,000+, but anyway. There's no rush to find life, if it's found, it's found. And if it tastes good, we'll eat it. :)
Vetalia
16-06-2005, 01:34
Jupiter is nothing. Europa and Titan are where its at.

Jupiter has a "room temperature" zone where it's about 70 degrees Fahrenheit, with water and moderate air pressure, so I wouldn't discount it yet. Still I want to see another Titan mission (my favorite non-planet) and a probe to Europa to see if there really is an ocean.
Vetalia
16-06-2005, 01:36
2,000+? I would have said 200,000+, but anyway. There's no rush to find life, if it's found, it's found. And if it tastes good, we'll eat it. :)

Yep, find it and kill it. The classic human pattern. :p
Corneliu
16-06-2005, 01:39
Heres another interesting Astronomy article. NASA's talks of Moon launch and International base on moon.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/06/14/moon.mission.reut/index.html

About time NASA had a plan of action for going to the Moon. I hope they succeed! It'll be nice to travel to the Moon one day before I die.
Bunnyducks
16-06-2005, 01:46
About time NASA had a plan of action for going to the Moon. I hope they succeed! It'll be nice to travel to the Moon one day before I die.
Indeed! If only man could ever go the moon... We can only dream.
Corneliu
16-06-2005, 01:47
Indeed! If only man could ever go the moon... We can only dream.

:rolleyes:

Don't tell me you actually believe that debunked conspiracy theory.
Allied Power Forces
16-06-2005, 01:49
just hope to god everyone, that the space craft won't end up like columbia. r.i.p =(
Corneliu
16-06-2005, 01:51
just hope to god everyone, that the space craft won't end up like columbia. r.i.p =(

I agree with you. I also hope it doesn't end up like Challenger or Appolo 1 as well.
Iztatepopotla
16-06-2005, 01:53
just hope to god everyone, that the space craft won't end up like columbia. r.i.p =(
A few will. It's unavoidable.
Phylum Chordata
16-06-2005, 01:55
I thought China was going to build a moonbase, or was that all just hot air? Anyway, it seems pretty silly to have two. (I'm suggesting they work together, not like flip a coin to see who gets to build a moonbase.)
Iztatepopotla
16-06-2005, 01:59
I thought China was going to build a moonbase, or was that all just hot air? Anyway, it seems pretty silly to have two. (I'm suggesting they work together, not like flip a coin to see who gets to build a moonbase.)
Last I knew they had hit a few snags and were a bit off-schedule.

The moon is pretty big, so there will probably be more than one base even if they're all set-up by international cooperation.
Corneliu
16-06-2005, 02:05
As long as its not the UN running the show colonize the Moon!

BTW: the US owns it :p
Leonstein
16-06-2005, 02:43
Everyone can get a base on the moon. And I do reckon that the UN as the one single whole-earth political organisation should have a big say in space exploration on behalf of smaller countries.

As long as they keep the military (and mad entrepreneurs) out of space, we'll be fine.
Phylum Chordata
16-06-2005, 02:48
Are there any good mineral deposits on the moon? I believe most mineral deposits on earth were concentrated by the action of hot groundwater, and there probably isn't too much of that on the moon.
Leonstein
16-06-2005, 02:52
Are there any good mineral deposits on the moon? I believe most mineral deposits on earth were concentrated by the action of hot groundwater, and there probably isn't too much of that on the moon.

Probably not, but many of the Asteroids between Mars and Jupiter are made entirely out of the good stuff.
Apparently there is a company in the US that is building mining equipment for them. They might already own some of them...
And then there's the guy who sells parts of the moon surface to people. The UN reckons he can't do that, what with the whole space treaty and so on, but he reckons they're evil socialists who are against property rights.

I saw that on Four Corners on ABC Australia a few weeks ago.
Iztatepopotla
16-06-2005, 03:04
Are there any good mineral deposits on the moon? I believe most mineral deposits on earth were concentrated by the action of hot groundwater, and there probably isn't too much of that on the moon.
On Earth most mineral deposits are concentrated by volcanic activity, not really water, although erosion helps uncover them.

Another good source of mineral deposits are meteorites. Very rich deposits of manganesum, zinc, nickel, and others are suspected, and there are a couple of missions planned to map the mineral resources on the Moon.
Phylum Chordata
16-06-2005, 03:34
many of the Asteroids between Mars and Jupiter are made entirely out of the good stuff.
Maybe we should skip the moon and go straight to the asteroids then? Use a large solar mirror to melt a hole in one and install a door. Then you'll have living quaters ready for when humans arrive.
Falhaar
16-06-2005, 03:38
Originally Posted by Phylum Chordata
Use a large solar mirror to melt a hole in one and install a door. I think it's a little more complicated than that :p.
Dobbsworld
16-06-2005, 03:39
I think it'd be hilarious (and fitting) if that Japanese orbital Hotel gets built before the next American Moonshot. Imagine a ringside-orbital vantagepoint of an Apollo-like launch.
Phylum Chordata
16-06-2005, 03:51
I think it's a little more complicated than thatYeah you're right. It might be cheaper to use diamond saws. Or, and this is just off the top of my head, maybe you could cut pieces off a mostly iron asteroid chemically. Your "cutting edge" oxidizes a tiny amount of iron, the oxide is removed and reduced to release the oxgen to be used again and the process is repeated. Sounds slow, but who is in a hurry? Wouldn't be surprised if this is completely impractical however.