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Fred Phelps at it again

Whispering Legs
15-06-2005, 15:33
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/228401_westboro14.html?source=rss

Fred doesn't know when to stop. Maybe after he gets his head pounded down between his shoulderblades, he'll get the idea that maybe he's pissing EVERYONE off now.

BOISE, Idaho -- A Kansas preacher and gay rights foe whose congregation is protesting military funerals around the country said he's coming to Idaho tomorrow to picket the memorial for an Idaho National Guard soldier killed in Iraq.

A flier on the Web site of Pastor Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church claims God killed Cpl. Carrie French with an improvised explosive device in retaliation against the United States for a bombing at Phelps' church six years ago.

"We're coming," Phelps said yesterday.

Westboro Baptist either has protested or is planning protests of other public funerals of soldiers from Michigan, Alabama, Minnesota, Virginia and Colorado. A protest is planned for July 11 at Dover Air Force Base, the military base where war dead are transported before being sent on to their home states.

Phelps gained national notoriety in 1998 when he picketed the funeral of Matthew Shepard, the gay college student beaten to death in Wyoming.

Since then, Phelps said his church has been the target of hateful words and actions, including a bomb attack six years ago.

Phelps' church has picketed the funerals of AIDS victims for more than a decade.

French, 19, was a Caldwell High School graduate and varsity cheerleader. She was killed June 5 in the northern city of Kirkuk. French served as an ammunition specialist with the 116th Brigade Combat Team's 145th Support Battalion.

Phelps said the fact that French led an all-American life gives him all the more reason to picket her final public tribute.

"An all-American girl from a society of all-American heretics," he said.

"Our attitude toward what's happening with the war is the Lord is punishing this evil nation for abandoning all moral imperatives that are worth a dime," Phelps said.

Caldwell Police Chief Bob Sobba said he cannot bar Phelps from going to the public funeral, which is scheduled for 1 p.m. at the Albertson College of Idaho in that city.

"While we respect Mr. Phelps' right to protest, we would hope that he would respect the family and friends of this young person by not disrupting the memorial," Sobba said.

Idaho Air National Guard Lt. Tony Vincelli, acting as spokesman for French's family, said there were no plans to change the funeral arrangements.

The Rev. Brian Fischer, pastor of Boise's Community Church of the Valley, and himself a past target of protest by the Westboro Baptist Church, decried Phelps' plan.

"What Phelps is doing is a reprehensible thing, to take a funeral and turn it into a photo op for his hate cause," Fischer said.

"We hope everyone will ignore Phelps' group."

In 2003, Phelps demanded that he be allowed to erect an anti-gay monument in a Boise public park. To avoid a lawsuit from his group, city officials voted in 2004 that a Ten Commandments monument be moved out of the park.
Sinuhue
15-06-2005, 15:40
I don't understand this man. I don't know much about him, other than the odd story...but worse than him, are the people out there that seem to have made him a symbol...for what, I'm not sure...but sheesh.

I guess anyone can have groupies these days...oops, I mean, followers...
Northern Fox
15-06-2005, 15:41
That guy really needs an "accident" to find him.
Leperous monkeyballs
15-06-2005, 15:41
That goddamn free speech idea sure does blow huge chunks sometimes doesn't it?


Leads to assholes everywhere thinking that their opinions deserve to be heard.







Funny thing how no-one ever complains about the right when it applies to the assholes that they agree with though..... isn't it?
Whispering Legs
15-06-2005, 15:42
I don't understand this man. I don't know much about him, other than the odd story...but worse than him, are the people out there that seem to have made him a symbol...for what, I'm not sure...but sheesh.

I guess anyone can have groupies these days...oops, I mean, followers...

I think he's an equal opportunity hater. He hates gays. And he hates the military. In fact, he seems to hate everyone except himself.
New Sans
15-06-2005, 15:42
A flier on the Web site of Pastor Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church claims God killed Cpl. Carrie French with an improvised explosive device in retaliation against the United States for a bombing at Phelps' church six years ago.

Is it just me or does anyone else find it hard to imagine God using anything else besides top quality? :p
Whispering Legs
15-06-2005, 15:44
Is it just me or does anyone else find it hard to imagine God using anything else besides top quality? :p

Well, an improvised explosive device is a step down from a lightning bolt, or a deluge, or a hail of fire and brimstone...
Blessed Misfortune
15-06-2005, 16:21
Lol, Incertonia once made a thread with this exact same title, except his thread discussed Phelps's reaction to the tragic tsunami of late '04.

Anyway, I hate Phelps. Calling him a Christian is like calling a chocolate chip cookie dipped in ketchup a culinary delight. I hope God strikes him down with a lightning bolt.
Jordaxia
15-06-2005, 16:27
Eh, it's free speech and all.

But I'll do the same and say he's a bit of a silly plumpus. More like the bible fell on his head one day and he took that as some divine guidance, rather than say, reading the thing. I'll bet if he did, he'd feel quite the fool.

I hope someone starts picketing him right back. Counter protests go!
[NS]Simonist
15-06-2005, 16:27
Anyway, I hate Phelps. Calling him a Christian is like calling a chocolate chip cookie dipped in ketchup a culinary delight. I hope God strikes him down with a lightning bolt.
Ah. The very sentiments of all Kansas Christians, except his family members (which have made up a HUGE amount of his "following" from the start -- if he didn't have so many damn relatives, I doubt he'd ever have gotten out of Topeka).

I actually met him once, a few years ago. I was in Topeka for a school event, and his group was protesting something-or-other right across the street from the Courthouse, and my friend and I were just kinda loitering, asking questions. The worst thing is, he really comes off as an intelligent, well-composed man, who just happens to have some major friggin screws loose.
Nureonia
15-06-2005, 16:28
Fred Phelps was gonna protest at my school, but he chickened out.

Anyway... MARK THIS MOMENT DOWN.

IT'S THE ONLY TIME YOU WILL EVER SEE ME AGREEING WITH WHISPERING LEGS.
Blessed Misfortune
15-06-2005, 16:28
Not surprisingly, the late Communist Misssissippi/Decisive Action/VoteEarly deeply admired Phelps.
Whispering Legs
15-06-2005, 16:29
Fred Phelps was gonna protest at my school, but he chickened out.

Anyway... MARK THIS MOMENT DOWN.

IT'S THE ONLY TIME YOU WILL EVER SEE ME AGREEING WITH WHISPERING LEGS.

Are you sure? I'm pro-choice. Does that mean you are against abortion?
Neo Rogolia
15-06-2005, 16:31
Let it be known throughout the land...err...forum: This man does NOT speak for the rest of us Christians.
Nureonia
15-06-2005, 16:33
Are you sure? I'm pro-choice. Does that mean you are against abortion?

Well, okay. That makes two times you'll see us agreeing. ;)

Anyway, seriously. Fred Phelps was supposed to come protest at my school (Cumberland Valley High School), because we have some sort of club that supports gays. Unfortunately, he couldn't get on the school grounds, and we probably would have had a bigger anti-protest than they would have had protest. ;)
Blessed Misfortune
15-06-2005, 16:34
Let it be known throughout the land...err...forum: This man does NOT speak for the rest of us Christians.

Agreed!

Phelps>>:eek: :sniper:<<me
Sinuhue
15-06-2005, 16:38
I think he's an equal opportunity hater. He hates gays. And he hates the military. In fact, he seems to hate everyone except himself.
I didn't think you could actually hate gays and hate the military. Isn't there some sort of fundamental opposition there that would cause someone to spontaneously implode?
Whispering Legs
15-06-2005, 16:40
I didn't think you could actually hate gays and hate the military. Isn't there some sort of fundamental opposition there that would cause someone to spontaneously implode?

No, because as I've pointed out, there have always been gays in the military.

Plenty, and some are still there. It's not a problem.

The people who get upset about gays in the military are usually people who've never been in the military.
Blessed Misfortune
15-06-2005, 16:40
I think he's an equal opportunity hater. He hates gays. And he hates the military. In fact, he seems to hate everyone except himself.

Hell, he probably hates himself, too!
Jordaxia
15-06-2005, 16:40
I didn't think you could actually hate gays and hate the military. Isn't there some sort of fundamental opposition there that would cause someone to spontaneously implode?

Wouldn't an opposition make you explode? I mean... if you were to implode there'd have to be an attraction there, and well I think you know what I mean.

I suppose you could implode if the oppositions were pushing against each other mind, but if they were pulling away, to their own seperate viewpoints, they'd have to explode.


:D
Blessed Misfortune
15-06-2005, 16:43
Fred Phelps is the Anti-Christ.
UpwardThrust
15-06-2005, 16:46
That guy really needs an "accident" to find him.
We may differ on a lot of things but I agree
[NS]Simonist
15-06-2005, 16:48
Fred Phelps is the Anti-Christ.
Oh, please don't say that.....I'd hate to think that Phelps, of all people, is going to open the sky and bring about the Reckoning.....
Blessed Misfortune
15-06-2005, 16:51
Simonist']Oh, please don't say that.....I'd hate to think that Phelps, of all people, is going to open the sky and bring about the Reckoning.....

Okay, maybe he isn't the Anti-Christ, but he is rotten to the core with pure, unadultered evil, which festers in his black, putrid, miniscule heart and seethes in his pitiful excuse for a soul.
Blessed Misfortune
15-06-2005, 16:55
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

See? It even says that Phelps is the Anti-Christ!

Gadzooks! :eek: