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It may not amuse you the way it did me but really? She was asking for it.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html

It may not amuse you the way it did me but really? She was asking for it.

I've seen people pepper sprayed for less. It looks like a legal use to me.
Not that she won't file a civil suit.

I'd rather be Tased than pepper sprayed. And either of those before someone wants to do the chokehold or baton.

If the police are placing you under arrest, anything but compliance is resisting arrest, and then they have a protocol to follow. He was probably following protocol.

She was pretty stupid.

And either of those before someone wants to do the chokehold or baton.

If the police are placing you under arrest, anything but compliance is resisting arrest, and then they have a protocol to follow. He was probably following protocol.

She was pretty stupid.

I second all that is displayed.

Even though I do have concerns about the Taser.

Will it badly affect people with a pacemaker or preagnant women?

As if these people would be that stupid.

She clearly resisted arrest and continued to talk on her cell phone (which could be dangerous). She refused to leave the vehicle, and the officers clearly warned her about their intention. They did nothing wrong and acted responsibly, in my opinion.

Too much screaming. Taze her again. :p

Too much screaming. Taze her again. :p

Is it wrong to feel amused at this? ;)

I second all that is displayed.

Even though I do have concerns about the Taser.

Will it badly affect people with a pacemaker or preagnant women?

As if these people would be that stupid.

The company has a lot of studies to show that their device, when properly used, is safe. However, they funded the studies, so others may not believe them.

It is demonstrably safer for everyone compared to being beaten with a baton.

Think of all the people that died over the past 100 years from being whacked one too many times.

I second all that is displayed.

Even though I do have concerns about the Taser.

Will it badly affect people with a pacemaker or preagnant women?

As if these people would be that stupid.

I suspect that on those with a weak heart, or pregnant, that the tazer would be quite risky. Probably not as risky as bullets or batons though. ;)

Is it wrong to feel amused at this? ;)

Wrong? Maybe. But you know you're all thinking it. :)

Is it wrong to feel amused at this? ;)

Well, I've always wondered...

Why do people try to run when the police have them surrounded (helicopter, cars, roadblocks)?

Why do people resist arrest?

The police will get you anyway in those situations - with the added side benefits of being allowed to make you regret your decision.

I always tell people - do not resist arrest. Don't answer questions until you call your lawyer - no matter what the police say. You do have an obligation to provide identification when asked.

Resisting arrest or running is completely stupid, and only guarantees that you're going to be put in the rinse cycle once you get to court.

Well, I've always wondered...
Why do people resist arrest?

Resisting arrest or running is completely stupid, and only guarantees that you're going to be put in the rinse cycle once you get to court.

I think some people do it so they can attempt to sue for "police brutality" or a similar charge.

Is it wrong to feel amused at this? ;)

I'm wrong with you then.

I wondered how this place would react, one guy went off his nut at how 'racist' it was to laugh at her.

I think some people do it so they can attempt to sue for "police brutality" or a similar charge.
Not that police aren't brutal on occasion. But you don't have to be stupid and invite them to do it to you.

Is it wrong to feel amused at this? ;)

No, it would be worse if you were aroused by it! :eek:

I hope that one particular woman will obey an officer's commands if and when she get's pulled over again.

Not that police aren't brutal on occasion. But you don't have to be stupid and invite them to do it to you.

That's true. Too many people feel that protection against brutality means they can do pretty much anything without a response from the officer.

If an officer pulls you over, you're out of control. Period. He has the gun, the spray, the tazer, etc. He also has the law on his side. Anyone who does not act politely and obediently when pulled over is stupid and deserves what comes to them. I did like the woman screaming incessantly for several minutes, when she wasn't being tazed, because she proved so well just how over-dramatic and self-important she was. That you for that.

I'm wrong with you then.

I wondered how this place would react, one guy went off his nut at how 'racist' it was to laugh at her.

But how? I think both cop and woman were the same race.

She needs to stop crying. Holy shit.

But how? I think both cop and woman were the same race.

I think that arguably, he's laughing at her because she was stupid - not because she was of a particular race.

I concur with the current majority opinion, so far. It might look brutal, but that woman was being extremely stupid and deserved the treatment that she got.

If an officer of the law tells you ot do something, then you do it.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

I concur with the current majority opinion, so far. It might look brutal, but that woman was being extremely stupid and deserved the treatment that she got.

If an officer of the law tells you ot do something, then you do it.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Rather like a mod... ;)

Rather like a mod... ;)

Mods with Tasers. :eek:

That just says to me what a sick place America is. Brit police officers are WAAAAY more patient and polite than that in general.

Nice to see so many sympathetic responses too... jeez

Mods with Tasers. :eek:

The day that electrical shocks can be transmitted via the Internet is the day that forums change forever. :)

That just says to me what a sick place America is. Brit police officers are WAAAAY more patient and polite than that in general.

Nice to see so many sympathetic responses too... jeez

That's probably because fewer brits are armed.

The day that electrical shocks can be transmitted via the Internet is the day that forums change forever. :)

Fewer trolls, that's for sure.

But how? I think both cop and woman were the same race.

We pointed this out. He then claimed we were getting a kick from watching black people attacking each other.

The whole forum tried to persuade him otherwise but he didn't listen. The thread got moved to the admin forum to discuss the complaint he made. It'll be chucked out, no question.

That just says to me what a sick place America is. Brit police officers are WAAAAY more patient and polite than that in general.

Nice to see so many sympathetic responses too... jeez

They're usually patient and polite up to the point that you act in a manner that gives them reason to arrest you.

At that point, if you resist, you usually regret it.

I remember German police being far, far less forgiving. They could beat you senseless with their little spring-loaded batons, and the rathaus would ALWAYS back them up, even if you had been sent to hospital.

Lunatic Goofballs
The day that electrical shocks can be transmitted via the Internet is the day that forums change forever.


Fewer trolls, that's for sure.

My brother mods 3 forums I'm on and I only mod one he's on. I fear the day.

My brother mods 3 forums I'm on and I only mod one he's on. I fear the day.

It's not a matter of fear. I'll miss the fun. Sometimes, you can play with a troll until they get exhausted. I had fun earlier today.

I really hate pigs.

We pointed this out. He then claimed we were getting a kick from watching black people attacking each other.

The whole forum tried to persuade him otherwise but he didn't listen. The thread got moved to the admin forum to discuss the complaint he made. It'll be chucked out, no question.

Would it help if I said that I get a kick out of white people attacking eachother too?

In fact, as long as nobody dies or gets badly maimed/mauled, I pretty much get a kick out of anybody attacking anybody else. :p

I really hate pigs.

Well, they live for the day they can make people who hate pigs ride the lightning.

Honestly there was something wrong with that woman! First off... if you are caught speeding you normally don't get on the phone right away... at least I don't. Then all the crying!! I'm sure the taser doesn't make you feel so hot... I'm sure it hurts but really!! She was stopped, asked to get out of the car... most people (who aren't crimals) comply... I think she got what she deserved. From what I've seen of the USA, the officer had to protect himself and her by tasing her.

As for him "laughing" at her... I'm sure it had nothing to do with her race... more to the fact that she was exaggerating so much! I mean drama queen or what?!

That just says to me what a sick place America is. Brit police officers are WAAAAY more patient and polite than that in general.

Nice to see so many sympathetic responses too... jeez

We don't put up with any crap. If you're stupid enough to ignore a legitimate representative of the law armed with a weapon which he explains repeatedly (I lost count in the clip) that he will shoot you with, you may be stupid enough to physically resist or pull a weapon. I'm all for stupid people getting treated this way, legally and with more than a fair warning, if it keeps my cops from ending up dead. I have relatives on the force, and if this keeps them safe from the wackos, then fine.

Well, they live for the day they can make people who hate pigs ride the lightning.

K, what the heck, when you post write something that makes sense.

Speaking as someone who has been tased in a self-defense demonstration...

If you know what a Taser is, and you're expecting it, it hurts. It hurt worse than having a gas fire burn my arm, and the pain was instantaneous and lasted as long as they held the trigger down. While the current is on, you can only go to the pavement, and your large muscle groups are in massive spasm.

I've seen people Tased who didn't know what it was, and weren't expecting the pain. These people literally panic - even after the current is off, they panic. When the current stops, the pain stops - but unless you're high, you're not getting back up.

For people who have been Tased before, just the presence of the Taser usually gets instant compliance.

Speaking as someone who has been tased in a self-defense demonstration...

If you know what a Taser is, and you're expecting it, it hurts. It hurt worse than having a gas fire burn my arm, and the pain was instantaneous and lasted as long as they held the trigger down. While the current is on, you can only go to the pavement, and your large muscle groups are in massive spasm.

I've seen people Tased who didn't know what it was, and weren't expecting the pain. These people literally panic - even after the current is off, they panic. When the current stops, the pain stops - but unless you're high, you're not getting back up.

For people who have been Tased before, just the presence of the Taser usually gets instant compliance.

Apt description. It isn't pleasant.

Police Officer: Get out of the car or I'm going to Taze you

She doesn't get out of the car

She gets Tazed

Stupid Bitch: (Complains)


:confused:

We don't put up with any crap. If you're stupid enough to ignore a legitimate representative of the law armed with a weapon which he explains repeatedly (I lost count in the clip) that he will shoot you with, you may be stupid enough to physically resist or pull a weapon. I'm all for stupid people getting treated this way, legally and with more than a fair warning, if it keeps my cops from ending up dead. I have relatives on the force, and if this keeps them safe from the wackos, then fine.

Yes, I agree fully. As a nation built apon fear, the United States needs there police force to be intolerant and unrelenting. See the idealogy of a nation of freedom is shunned by the US. The US are firm beliefers of the police state, this is why they promote it across the world in such culturely advanced nations as Iraq and Afganistan. With there leader as is I am sure the Americans will get their wish and receive a Curfee as they promote it in so many other nations. Then folowed by random arrests that are already on the rise do to such acts as the Patroit Act. See we people from nations of freedom such as England or Canada will never understand the benefits of the police state.

Sincerely the Ambasitor of the great nation of Franz Hat.

K, what the heck, when you post write something that makes sense.

I think it was clear.

You: I don't like cops but I do like to call them inflamatory names
Him: That's okay because they don't like to be called inflamatory names and even better if you screw around they'll enjoy tasing you.

It was clear to the rest of us.

Yes, I agree fully. As a nation built apon fear, the United States needs there police force to be intolerant and unrelenting. See the idealogy of a nation of freedom is shunned by the US. The US are firm beliefers of the police state, this is why they promote it across the world in such culturely advanced nations as Iraq and Afganistan. With there leader as is I am sure the Americans will get their wish and receive a Curfee as they promote it in so many other nations. Then folowed by random arrests that are already on the rise do to such acts as the Patroit Act. See we people from nations of freedom such as England or Canada will never understand the benefits of the police state.

Sincerely the Ambasitor of the great nation of Franz Hat.

Folks, there's nothing to see here. Move along. Please don't feed the troll!

... See we people from nations of freedom such as England or Canada will never understand the benefits of the police state.

The benefits are obvious; amusing tazer videos. :D

Folks, there's nothing to see here. Move along. Please don't feed the troll!

I think it might be Taser time for this one...

I think it might be Taser time for this one...

Tear gas would be better.

Yes, I agree fully. As a nation built apon fear, the United States needs there police force to be intolerant and unrelenting. See the idealogy of a nation of freedom is shunned by the US. The US are firm beliefers of the police state, this is why they promote it across the world in such culturely advanced nations as Iraq and Afganistan. With there leader as is I am sure the Americans will get their wish and receive a Curfee as they promote it in so many other nations. Then folowed by random arrests that are already on the rise do to such acts as the Patroit Act. See we people from nations of freedom such as England or Canada will never understand the benefits of the police state.

Sincerely the Ambasitor of the great nation of Franz Hat.

I dont fear anything. In fact i feel safer when the police have tasers. You are so lucky we dont kick your Canadian/british ass. And how is there freedom when
1. In canada:
a)You have the same government and your military was built by the us.
b)The head of the governmental body is the Queen!!!
2. In england
a) you are going to get beaten with a baton,
b) The real government is a bunch of fat guys wearing wigs. do you no how easily that could turn into a dictatorship???

I dont fear anything. In fact i feel safer when the police have tasers. You are so lucky we dont kick your Canadian/british ass. And how is there freedom when
1. In canada:
a)You have the same government and your military was built by the us.
b)The head of the governmental body is the Queen!!!
2. In england
a) you are going to get beaten with a baton,
b) The real government is a bunch of fat guys wearing wigs. do you no how easily that could turn into a dictatorship???

You always tell people not to do this and yet they never listen.

You always tell people not to do this and yet they never listen.

Plenty of voltage to go around. :)

Watching the tape I think she fully deserved what she got.

I laughed when she called them racist.

The woman was just asking for it. Besides, tasers are not potentially dangerous. There are no after-effects, and they are only used to subdue dangerous or non-complient people.
-But I guess using a taser on someone who won't get out of their car is a little extreme. But humorous nontheless.

:gundge:

The real government is a bunch of fat guys wearing wigs. do you no how easily that could turn into a dictatorship???

Hmmm? Where'd that come from? Unless you are talking abou the Judiciary (who'se lawmaking powers are minimal at best).

The gleeful delight over this woman's sufferring is sickening.

Did you notice that when she asks why she was tased the officer lies? He says she "took a swing" at the other officer. She did no such thing. And, if you watched the commentary, the police do not even claim she did any such thing.

Her attitude and failure to comply with the officers was foolish.

But, geez, it was about 20-30 seconds from when he first asked her to get out of the car (when the car door was closed (he'd ordered her to close it earlier)) to when he tased her.

He pulled out the taser and started threatening her with it pretty quick -- after about 10-15 seconds.

From when he pulled the taser to when he tased her was about 12 seconds.

Sure he order "4 times" for her to get out of the car. The last 2-3 were rapid-fire.

Then, once she has been flopping on the ground, there is only about 6 seconds between when he stops tasing her the first time and then tases her again.

The officer's actions may not have been wrong, but they weren't necessarily exemplarly either. At no time was the woman threatening or agressive. The stop was merely for speeding and the arrest for merely driving with a suspended license.

I think the officer could have handled it differently, but acted within appropriate procedures.

Regardless, making fun of the woman's pain is pretty low. The taser fucking hurts. A lot. The woman was shocked to be tased -- twice. I'd be upset too. If you listen she suffered some sort of injury when she fell and was bleeding.

<snip>

All of which could have been avoided if she had simply listened to the officer.

I saw the complete video the other day and the woman got what she deserved.

- She was doing almost 20mph over the speed limit
- Her vehicle was illegal (broken windshield, brakelights out and [I think] expired stickers)
- She had a suspended license
- She was defiant and resisted arrest
- She took a swing at the assisting officer

She's lucky they only tazed her.

The gleeful delight over this woman's sufferring is sickening.

Did you notice that when she asks why she was tased the officer lies? He says she "took a swing" at the other officer. She did no such thing. And, if you watched the commentary, the police do not even claim she did any such thing.

Her attitude and failure to comply with the officers was foolish.

But, geez, it was about 20-30 seconds from when he first asked her to get out of the car (when the car door was closed (he'd ordered her to close it earlier)) to when he tased her.

He pulled out the taser and started threatening her with it pretty quick -- after about 10-15 seconds.

From when he pulled the taser to when he tased her was about 12 seconds.

Sure he order "4 times" for her to get out of the car. The last 2-3 were rapid-fire.

Then, once she has been flopping on the ground, there is only about 6 seconds between when he stops tasing her the first time and then tases her again.

The officer's actions may not have been wrong, but they weren't necessarily exemplarly either. At no time was the woman threatening or agressive. The stop was merely for speeding and the arrest for merely driving with a suspended license.

I think the officer could have handled it differently, but acted within appropriate procedures.

Regardless, making fun of the woman's pain is pretty low. The taser fucking hurts. A lot. The woman was shocked to be tased -- twice. I'd be upset too. If you listen she suffered some sort of injury when she fell and was bleeding.

I think it seems like he could have waited. I have two issues with what you said. We can't see her movements in the car. I doubt they were threatening but they may have been in a way that obscured her hands which to be fair as an officer would make me pretty damn uncomfortable. The second is that almost every officer I've ever heard of getting shot was at a traffic stop.

I do, however, agree that the officer clearly should have given her more time to be compliant once she was on the ground.

One thing I noticed is that her behavior both before and after the tasing was kind of sketchy. It's not really germaine to the discussion here, but I wonder if she was drug tested. She seemed a little hopped up.

LMAO.

Switched it off after a couple of minutes though, her crying got boring.

I've seen guys in documentaries volunteer to have a taser tested on them, so much less fuss. Just a bit of swearing and they're up again.

<snip>

I can't tell if she took a swing or not. I'm assuming that if she did, it was when the other police officer was reaching inside from the other side. Nevertheless, her defiance was improper. To the police mind, dangerous. Inside that vehicle, where they can't see where she puts her hands, and she has access to hidden weapons, is not where they will allow her to stay when they suspect the chance of a threat. To minimize the threat, they wanted her clear of the car. That's how the police are trained to think in that situation. He defiance automatically made it necessary for them to get her out and into a position of safety for THEM. As quickly as possible.

As for my gleeful delight at her suffering, I refuse to hide that. I'm not going to even try to justify that. I'm a bit of a barbarian that way. As long as nobody dies or gets badly damaged, I enjoy violence. I know exactly what it's like to get hit by a tazer. I'm perfectly happy admitting that I am sick enough to enjoy that video. I won't candycoat that.

She might have been bleeding from the darts. If you have been tazed, and fallen onto the darts, they can tear the skin up a bit.

In closing, Stupidity should hurt.

Did you notice that when she asks why she was tased the officer lies? He says she "took a swing" at the other officer. She did no such thing.

Can you see inside that car? If so, you're better'n me. The cops claim she swung, she says they didn't, how predictable does it get?

Speaking as someone who has been tased in a self-defense demonstration...

If you know what a Taser is, and you're expecting it, it hurts. It hurt worse than having a gas fire burn my arm, and the pain was instantaneous and lasted as long as they held the trigger down. While the current is on, you can only go to the pavement, and your large muscle groups are in massive spasm.

I've seen people Tased who didn't know what it was, and weren't expecting the pain. These people literally panic - even after the current is off, they panic. When the current stops, the pain stops - but unless you're high, you're not getting back up.

For people who have been Tased before, just the presence of the Taser usually gets instant compliance.


I agree with all this, Ive been Tased before, ive been hit with peperspray, pepperballs, and mase. A tazer hurts when it hits and for as long as a current passes through it, and there is nothing to do about it because you have no control. And when its over it dosnt hurt but you know you dont want to get hit by it again.

When its all said and done though i think Mace was the most painful of all, it burns and it just lasts so damn long.

We pointed this out. He then claimed we were getting a kick from watching black people attacking each other.

The whole forum tried to persuade him otherwise but he didn't listen. The thread got moved to the admin forum to discuss the complaint he made. It'll be chucked out, no question.

Hello Cailet? :D

Hello Cailet? :D

:confused:

Me and Ktulu know each other from another forum. And since I can't change my name on phpBB boards I'm stuck as Cailet there.

Me and Ktulu know each other from another forum. And since I can't change my name on phpBB boards I'm stuck as Cailet there.

My condolences. :p

Me and Ktulu know each other from another forum. And since I can't change my name on phpBB boards I'm stuck as Cailet there.
Depending on the phpBB version it is an admin configuration rather then the actual forum issue with name change

damn facist police

When its all said and done though i think Mace was the most painful of all, it burns and it just lasts so damn long.


I agree- 10% capstun will make you miserable for a long time-even with immediate rinse in fresh water.

Well im from Belfast in the North of Ireland, I got my arm broke by the cops firing rubber bullets and I can tell ya id take the taser over the rubber bullet anyday!

Well im from Belfast in the North of Ireland, I got my arm broke by the cops firing rubber bullets and I can tell ya id take the taser over the rubber bullet anyday!

Now there's a "non-lethal" deterrent I haven't tried. I've never been shot with a rubber bullet. Doesn't sound fun, actually.

That... wasn't funny at all. Maybe a little when she wouldn't shut the hell up with that cell phone(actually, deep down I have a dark desire to do that to all people who talk on cell phones), but beyond that, it was terrible. She was screaming in fear and agony, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

It seemed like an unneccesary use of force too, because she was unarmed, she didn't have a weapon, she was a she, compared to this burly cop, and she was just talking on a cell phone, not preparing to harm him in any way. The taser should exist in the arsenal to bring down someone who is threataning and you can't get in close and grab his ass, not on some girl who wouldn't get out of her car. He could have simply grabbed her and put her on the ground. There was no need to taser her at all, let alone twice.

I personally hope she wins a case against them. We need a good precedent on the books to say you can't just go around tasering people for non-compliance and/or cell phone overuse.

That... wasn't funny at all. Maybe a little when she wouldn't shut the hell up with that cell phone(actually, deep down I have a dark desire to do that to all people who talk on cell phones), but beyond that, it was terrible. She was screaming in fear and agony, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

It seemed like an unneccesary use of force too, because she was unarmed, she didn't have a weapon, she was a she, compared to this burly cop, and she was just talking on a cell phone, not preparing to harm him in any way. The taser should exist in the arsenal to bring down someone who is threataning and you can't get in close and grab his ass, not on some girl who wouldn't get out of her car. He could have simply grabbed her and put her on the ground. There was no need to taser her at all, let alone twice.

I personally hope she wins a case against them. We need a good precedent on the books to say you can't just go around tasering people for non-compliance and/or cell phone overuse.

That isn't how the police are trained to think. Inside her car, she is a threat to their safety. Her defiance made that threat real to them. They don't take unnecessary chances anymore.

She could have easily stepped on the gas peddle and taken those cops for a deadly ride.. on the Cell Phone she could be calling a few of her own burly friends to come help her out.

Maybe you shouldn't stereotype, the fact that shes a woman doesn't mean she does not have a gun.

HAhahahahahahahahaha! :D

She could have easily stepped on the gas peddle and taken those cops for a deadly ride.. on the Cell Phone she could be calling a few of her own burly friends to come help her out.

Maybe you shouldn't stereotype, the fact that shes a woman doesn't mean she does not have a gun.

Actually the trainer that talks over the video explains that they are trained not to reach into the vehicle just for that reason. This is why they couldn't remove her from the vehicle while it was still running. The cop on the other side actually shouldn't have been in the vehicle like he was.

No matter where you live, I think most people do what they are told when a gun is pointed at them. It does not matter if it is a tasser or the type that fires bullets. She should have done what she was told. Maybe she will react differently next time.

It is fun to watch. :sniper:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html

It may not amuse you the way it did me but really? She was asking for it.


Muzzle that big mouth b..

Now there's a "non-lethal" deterrent I haven't tried. I've never been shot with a rubber bullet. Doesn't sound fun, actually.

There are two kinds of "rubber" bullet.

1. The rubber baton round, usually fired from a 37mm low pressure gun. It's a large projectile made of the same sort of material as hard plastic combs, and it begins to tumble soon after leaving the gun. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. A UK invention. If it hits you in the skull, and you're too close, you can be killed.

2. The "plastic" round. Generally, a thin plastic coating over a 13 gram steel core. The round is launched from a special pistol (or rifle adapter) at a low velocity. These rounds have a tendency to penetrate, and can kill you if you're hit in the head.

Both of these examples are "less lethal" than ordinary bullets - but they can still be lethal.

There are also Stingball rounds - shotgun rounds that fire small rubber pellets the size and consistency of pencil erasers. It hurts, but the worst that can happen is that you'll be blinded by getting hit in the eye.

She SO had that coming.

That just says to me what a sick place America is. Brit police officers are WAAAAY more patient and polite than that in general.

Nice to see so many sympathetic responses too... jeez

How? Because you can't follow a simple order of "get out of the car" ?

If you can't even do something so trivial and simple, you shouldn't be living in a house, nevermind having a job.

HA! More proof of the superiority of tasers to all other forms of violent nonlethal human interaction. Someday, my grand scheme will be complete, and the USTD (United States Taser Distribution) project will be finalized. Everyone from the age of three should be trained in their use, taught to respect their presence, and (of course) have one of many different fun colors.