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I oppose ageism, androcracy, anticommunism, antihumanism, anti-Semitism, anti–trade unionism, apartheid, arithmocracy, aristocracy, authoritarianism, autocracy, bureaucracy, Bushonomics, capitalism, casteism, centrism, classical liberalism, colonialism, conservatism, corporatism, dictatorship, dominionism, elitism, fascism, feudalism, foolocracy, Francoism, fundamentalism of any type, gerontocracy, gynecocracy, hagiocracy, heightism, heterosexism, hierocracy, homophobia, imperialism, interventionism, Islamofascism, jihadism, jingoism, juche, kakistocracy, kleptocracy, laissez-faire capitalism, landocracy, Leninism, libertarianism (as in, roughly, classical liberalism), looksism, McCarthyism, Machiavellianism, Manifest Destiny, Maoism, market capitalism, market deregulation, mercantilism, militarism, militocracy, misandry, misogynism, misopedia, mobocracy, monarchy, monocracy, narcokleptocracy, nationalism, Nazism, neoconservatism, ochlocracy, oligarchy, paleoconservatism, paparchy, patriotism, pedantocracy, Peronism, physiocracy, plantocracy, plutocracy, pornocracy, PRIism, racism, Reaganomics, regressivism, religious fundamentalism, Republicanism, rightism, rugged individualism, segregation, seniocracy, sexism, slavery, slavocracy, speciesism, Stalinism, state capitalism, state terrorism, statism, stratocracy, terrorism, Thatcherism, theocracy, timocracy, totalitarianism, tyranny, ultracapitalism, wage slavery, xenophobia, and maybe others I haven't thought of.

I oppose authoritarianism, capitalism, casteism, colonialism, conservatism, corporatism, dictatorship, fascism, feudalism, foolocracy, Francoism, imperialism, Islamofascism, jingoism, Maoism, mercantilism, kleptocracy, narcokleptocracy, nationalism, Nazism, oligarchy, Peronism, slavery, slavocracy, Stalinism, state capitalism, terrorism, theocracy, totalitarianism, and maybe others I haven't thought of.

Any ideology which activly seeks to disadvantage other people.

I oppose authoritarianism, capitalism, casteism, colonialism, conservatism, corporatism, dictatorship, fascism, feudalism, foolocracy, Francoism, imperialism, Islamofascism, jingoism, Maoism, mercantilism, kleptocracy, narcokleptocracy, nationalism, Nazism, oligarchy, Peronism, slavery, slavocracy, Stalinism, state capitalism, terrorism, theocracy, totalitarianism, and maybe others I haven't thought of.

I predict one of two things will happen...

1. This will become the longest running thread in the history of this forum.

2. The mods shut you down in the next hour.

I predict one of two things will happen... *snip*
2. The mods shut you down in the next hour.On what grounds??

I oppose... tourism.

I predict one of two things will happen...

1. This will become the longest running thread in the history of this forum.

2. The mods shut you down in the next hour.


Agreed... even longer than that netherlands thread.

Agreed... even longer than that netherlands thread.Considering I'm a n00b, that would be quite an accomplishment ...

Agreed... even longer than that netherlands thread.

I think Bible Bashers might have been longer; what is the Netherlands post count now?

Thousands, I think

I oppose pornocracy, the rule of prostitutes. The term was meant to describe the...less than holy activities of some popes in the middle ages.

Is foolocracy real? That seems made up....like the awesomocracy my brother and his roommates made up while drunk at college.

So you're a socialist?(just a question, not an attack)

If casteism is what I think it is then, yes. Along with dictatorship, slavery , terrorism, colonialism, feudalism, imperialism, and Nazism

Kleptocracy?
Jingoism?
Peronism?
Francoism?
These I've never even heard of.

And I'm not sure about these, I don't know what they are:
fascism
theocracy
totalitarianism
slavocracy
Stalinism
state capitalism
authoritarianism

And I'm not sure about these, I don't know what they are:
fascism
theocracy
totalitarianism
slavocracy
Stalinism
state capitalism
authoritarianism
Have a look at wikipedia. It's a great internet encyclopedia. I once spent three hourse there before I knew what hit me...

I oppose things I don't agree with, regardless of political idea. I especially oppose people who justify inequality with "property rights". Here's looking at you libertarians.

I oppose

Nazism
Stalinism
Bushonomics
McCarthyism
slavery
anti-semitism
Communism
Socialism
Full force Libertarianism
Blue Dog Democrats
animal rights advocacy
Veganism
Vegetarianism
populism
conservativism
math....
MPAA
protectionism
abortion
neoconservatism
Jingoism
racism
sexism
moral majority
censorship
moralism
fundamentalism



That's the list. Though I oppose these, some are traits others deem of value, and I have no problem with that.

...
abortion
...
sexism
moral majority
...
moralism
...

Hmmm?

I oppose any idealogy that would seek to gain any sort of control over another person. So slavery, communism, organized religion, socialism, government, hamsterocracy, etc. are all right out.

I oppose


animal rights advocacy
Veganism
Vegetarianism


That's the list. Though I oppose these, some are traits others deem of value, and I have no problem with that.


awww... what's your soy beef with vegans????

luv,
a vegan/animal rights activist from ny :confused:

Not all of these are strictly ideologies, and although I oppose these, I do not believe in doing so in any way that would limit their freedoms to express, and partake in their beliefs (unless their partaking forces their beliefs onto me).

In no particular order:

Nazism, communism (any type), fascism, socialism, monarchy, anarchy, autocracy, oligarchy, theocracy, totalitarionism, extremism, centrism, environmentalism, extreme libertarionism, laissez-faire capitalism, feminism (except for liberal feminism), fuedalism, extreme jongoism, colonialism, centralization, new liberalism (not the classical liberalism), globalism, anti-militarism, any religion but Protestant Christian moderates, racism, sexism, veganism, vegetarionism, hippies, those who are anti-military, protestors of any other sort, slavery, terrorism, extremism, censorship, anybody trying to in any way hinder freedom of speech, religion, mobility, the press, and the right to bear arms, PETA, NAFTA, juntas, militocracies, dictatorships, communilists, anybody trying to force their beliefs on others, the NDP, the Liberal Party of Canada, the Bloc Quebecois, any other types of seperatists, progressive taxation, and overly large taxation.

Their probably lots of other but I can't think of them right now.

Wow Dark, you are orignally the most boring and centrist person in the U.S.A.

Fascism, Extreme Left/Right, communism, parts socialism, extreme business libertarian, monarchyis, democracy (becuase most people are idiots) and a lot of other things like Stalinism and what's not utiltarian

Wow Dark, you are orignally the most boring and centrist person in the U.S.A.

I live in Canada, where I'm fairly right-wing. I just don't like partisans and extremists. I describe my ideology as civil libertarion, social capitalist, republican.

If you look closely you'll see I oppose centrists.

As a principle, I oppose all ideologies. People need moral values to function as humans, but ideologies are a poor, devastating substitute for the answers provided by religion, and lead to more of the same excesses, without the benefits. I'm a blairian : I believe in what works. The rest is at best useless, and at worse, very dangerous.

I oppose the next posters policies.
And bunnies. Damn bunnies.

Bushonomics
slavery
Blue Dog Democrats
animal rights advocacy
math....
MPAA
abortion
moral majority
censorship
Are those ideologies? And better yet, does anyone care? I think that we can all agree: no.

Are those ideologies? And better yet, does anyone care? I think that we can all agree: no.
I oppose that ideaology!
*tackles Xanthal and pulls his hair*

awww... what's your soy beef with vegans????

luv,
a vegan/animal rights activist from ny :confused:

What actually is a VEGAN i have heard the term before and have always wondered what it ment. What is the difference between a vegan and a vegitarian??

I oppose pornocracy, the rule of prostitutes. The term was meant to describe the...less than holy activities of some popes in the middle ages.

Do you know if there's a term to describe the less than democratic activities of American Presidents?

I oppose idealology.

The true nature of a man is not measured by what he stands against...but by what he stands for.


I'm pretty damn sure thats actually a quote from somebody, or at least something remarkably similar...but it's late, and I couldn't remember who it might have been to save my life...

...doesn't mean it's not applicable though. :p

My answer can be summed up by the great ferris bueller himself.

" I did have a test today. That wasn't bullshit. It's on European socialism. I mean, really, what's the point? I'm not European, I don't plan on being European, so who gives a crap if they're socialist? They could be fascist anarchists - that still wouldn't change the fact that I don't own a car. Not that I condone fascism, or any ism for that matter. Isms in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an ism - he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon: "I don't believe in Beatles - I just believe in me". A good point there. Of course, he was the Walrus. I could be the Walrus - I'd still have to bum rides off of people.."

My answer can be summed up by the great ferris bueller himself.

I oppose Ferris Buellerisms

What actually is a VEGAN i have heard the term before and have always wondered what it ment. What is the difference between a vegan and a vegitarian??Vegetarians won't eat meat. Vegans are even loonier in that they won't eat meat or animal-related byproducts like milk or eggs. You can recognize them because they look unhealthy, sad and anemic from depriving themselves of all the good things in life.

Well, not all the good things I suppose, scotch and cigars are made from plants after all.

neoconservatism

Does whiney women count?

Is that part of whineism? :p

All ideologies.
Ideals are a great thing, but when they turn into an ideology or an -ism, they become dangerous.

All ideologies.
Ideals are a great thing, but when they turn into an ideology or an -ism, they become dangerous.

You mean like "Democracy"?

I live in Canada, where I'm fairly right-wing. I just don't like partisans and extremists. I describe my ideology as civil libertarion, social capitalist, republican.

If you look closely you'll see I oppose centrists.
Vegetarians are extremists?
What's globalism?

You mean like "Democracy"?

Democracy is not an ideology but a form of government.

Democracy is not an ideology but a form of government.

It became a form of government because the ideology appealed to enough people to make it so. Kind of like Socialism, Communism, Fascism, etc.

Those are forms of government too right?

It became a form of government because the ideology appealed to enough people to make it so. Kind of like Socialism, Communism, Fascism, etc.

Those are forms of government too right?

No, these are not forms of government, these are ideologies that can influence a government.
Socialism, Communism and Fascism can exist in a perfectly democratic state and in a dictatorship.

democracy

/dimokrsi/

• noun (pl. democracies)
1 a form of government in which the people have a voice in the exercise of power, typically through elected representatives.
2 a state governed in such a way.
3 control of a group by the majority of its members.
(OED (http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/democracy?view=uk) )

So, if the majority wanted Communism, they would get it. If the majority wanted Fascicm, they would get it. If the majority wanted ice cream for all, they would get it.

No ideology behind democracy either way. And none behind any form of government.
But some governments/political figures choose to impose an ideology on the population.

No, these are not forms of government, these are ideologies that can influence a government.
Socialism, Communism and Fascism can exist in a perfectly democratic state and in a dictatorship.

democracy

/dimokrsi/

• noun (pl. democracies)
1 a form of government in which the people have a voice in the exercise of power, typically through elected representatives.
2 a state governed in such a way.
3 control of a group by the majority of its members.
(OED (http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/democracy?view=uk) )

So, if the majority wanted Communism, they would get it. If the majority wanted Fascicm, they would get it. If the majority wanted ice cream for all, they would get it.

No ideology behind democracy either way. And none behind any form of government.
But some governments/political figures choose to impose an ideology on the population.


You left this out...

— ORIGIN Greek demokratia, from demos ‘the people’ + -kratia ‘power, rule’

Are you saying this was not originally a concept/ idea/ ideology/ before it came into practice?

While democracy is a form of governing, democratic principles are collectively an ideology in that they are a distinct mode of of political thought. They imply a relationship between entities and insitutions within a society that differs from from other modes of political thought (for more about this, read Heywood). Democratic principlism has strongly influenced a range of modern ideologies, much the same way as orthodox conservatism or orthodox Marxism have influenced the development of current ideologies. While democracy does (potential, although not always in practice) allow the existance of non-democratic ideologies, democratic principles do not; hence the legimisation of the surpression of certain less-than-democratic modes of thought by major democratic thinkers - such as of the Spartian dictatorship mode of thought by ancient (democratic principlist) Athenians ...


Out of interest - as a did you know - the majority of the world's forms of government claim to be currently democratic, but only a minority claim to be run through democratic principles.

sorry for the lecture :)

PS: I am always warry of pragmatism, particularly when it is followed like an ideology!

pornocracy :rolleyes: lol btw how old is this little commie??

You left this out...

— ORIGIN Greek demokratia, from demos ‘the people’ + -kratia ‘power, rule’

Are you saying this was not originally a concept/ idea/ ideology/ before it came into practice?

It is an idea, yes. And I would even call it an ideal, as it can never be perfectly realised.
An ideology, however is a system of ideas and ideals forming the basis of an economic, political or social theory.

To turn the idea of democracy into an ideology, you would have to create a belief system around it.
Democracy in itself is the simple idea that the people should rule themselves. If you start adding other ideas, for example how they should go about electing etc. you might end up with an ideology.
Democracy can be an ingredient to an ideology, such as in American Partiotism, it can also be the focus of hatred in an ideology, such as fundamentalistic Islam. But in itself it is a neutral value, not an ideology.

It is an idea, yes. And I would even call it an ideal, as it can never be perfectly realised.
An ideology, however is a system of ideas and ideals forming the basis of an economic, political or social theory.

To turn the idea of democracy into an ideology, you would have to create a belief system around it.
Democracy in itself is the simple idea that the people should rule themselves. If you start adding other ideas, for example how they should go about electing etc. you might end up with an ideology.
Democracy can be an ingredient to an ideology, such as in American Partiotism, it can also be the focus of hatred in an ideology, such as fundamentalistic Islam. But in itself it is a neutral value, not an ideology.

Democracy is realised all the time. The other day I was hanging out with two friends, we were trying to decide which club to go to, so we put it to a vote.

We were able to come up with the idea to resolve our plans for the evening by voting not because we are an existing government, but because of an ideology that we all subscribed to.

P.S. We ended up going to a Hip Hop club :(

Democracy is realised all the time. The other day I was hanging out with two friends, we were trying to decide which club to go to, so we put it to a vote.

We were able to come up with the idea to resolve our plans for the evening by voting not because we are an existing government, but because of an ideology that we all subscribed to.

P.S. We ended up going to a Hip Hop club :(

And yet, on a larger scale, it keeps failing.
For example Britain and Spain sending troops to Iraq even though the populations of both counrties fiercly opposed the ideas, Germany ratifying the EU constitution without even consulting its citizens, the US electing (or maybe not? who knows?) George W. Bush for his first term in office, etc.

Democracy is not an idelogy you could follow. In voting for which club to go to, you followed the ideas (or, if you want to, ideology) of Western democracy.

Western democracies are based on the ideology that all people are equal as soon as they are of age. So all your votes counted the same, and you were all entitled to vote as you were old enough by consent.
In ancient Greece, slaves, women and people without land were not entitled to a vote, and it was still democracy.
In Western countries today, children and non-citizens are not entitled to vote, and it is still democracy.
In Communist and Socialist countries, people most of the time only could vote yes or no on one option, not decide between two alternatives, and it was still democracy.

You were behaving according to an ideology that encorporated democracy and uses it as a tool, not to democracy itself.

I heartily oppose the evils of sobriety.

*Blissfully ignores everything said in this topic and spouts the ideologies he hates*

I oppose:
Absolute individualism, rugged individualism, communism, neo-conservatism, Stalinism, Maoism, xenophobia, sexism, autocracy, phobocracy ;) , Satanism…
erm… let me see…
…jingoism, extreme nationalism, fascism, libertarianism, anarchism, anarcho-communism, racism, hypocrisy (which is close to an ideology, considering how many people follow it blindly ;) ), death worship…

Okay, this is all getting rather silly. I think I'll stop.

And I'm not sure about these, I don't know what they are:
fascism
theocracy
totalitarianism
slavocracy
Stalinism
state capitalism
authoritarianism
ok, some of these its acceptable, but if you've done any 20th centuary history you should know what fascism, totalitarianism and Stalinism are...so unless you're under about 13, there's been something wrong with your education.

All lost causes. These ideologies LOST, and I consider anyone that supports them to be wasting their time:

Communism
Fascism
The US Confederacy
Prohibition/Laws that curtail individual liberty
et al...and etc.

All lost causes. These ideologies LOST, and I consider anyone that supports them to be wasting their time:

Communism
Fascism
The US Confederacy
et al...and etc.

So you only object to ideologies after they become history?

So you only object to ideologies after they become history?

Nah. Those are just the obvious ones. :)

I'm also against slavery, radical anything (conservatism, liberalism, vegetarianism, religion...)...

I oppose:

Conservatism
Neoconservatism
Stalinism
Communism
Fascism
Nationalism
Theism
Moralism
Autocracy
Monarchy
Oligarchy
Aristocracy
Dictatorship
Totalitarianism
Feudalism
Trotskyism
Extremism
Anti-Czardaianism

*takes deep breath*

Revolutionism
Ismatism
Pornocracy
Hypocrisy
Ultracapitalism
Capitalism
Regressivism
Colonialism
Imperialism
Manifest Destiny
Mercantilism
Non-constitutionalism
Fatalism
Isolationism
Predestinationism
Colodia (no, that was a joke :p)

Hmmm...And lots more.

Ultravegetarianism
Reaganomics
Inflation
Republicanism
Democratism
Slavery
WASPs
Racism
Raceocracy
Conformance
Anti-choice people
Big government
Corruption

...okay, okay, I get the point!

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Nah. Those are just the obvious ones. :)

I'm also against slavery, radical anything (conservatism, liberalism, vegetarianism, religion...)...

I'm afraid radical anything isn't a lost cause yet. Seems to be working frighteningly well for some people....

Fundamentalism, National Socialism, and ideologies that attempt to put the rights of one person as more important than others.

I'm afraid radical anything isn't a lost cause yet. Seems to be working frighteningly well for some people....

Yeah... tell me about it. :(

I predict one of two things will happen...

1. This will become the longest running thread in the history of this forum.That honor already goes to several roleplays started in early 2004 which are still going. ;) And for sheer post numbers, this poll (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373378) over in II has well over 5,000 replies and growing.

2. The mods shut you down in the next hour.No, the mods are too lenient to consider this flamebaiting. Which it isn't. It's saying, "I hate liberals" instead of "<insert racist expletive here> all liberals".

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

All lost causes. These ideologies LOST, and I consider anyone that supports them to be wasting their time:

Prohibition/Laws that curtail individual liberty


This is fairly optomistic of you. Just about ever country in the world has prohibition to some degree. In the US it is the "War on Drugs," everywhere else it just has a less fancy name.

Britain is currently considering various things that will curtail individual liberty. Also the legitslature here has also passed bill on things such as Fox Hunting, all of which curtail liberty.

Personally, I believe that there is going to be a huge upswing in authoritarianism on the part of the state here in Europe. All because of the short sighted xenophobia of many. Well, not all, some of the excesses of political correctness are getting inshrined into law.

On what grounds??Flamebaiting (not). See post #57 or 58.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

...Germany ratifying the EU constitution without even consulting its citizens...
And had the citizens voted on the constitution or on other, possibly related things?
If the people don't vote for the issue at hand, then I reckon there is an argument to be made for not asking them.

And yet, on a larger scale, it keeps failing.
For example Britain and Spain sending troops to Iraq even though the populations of both counrties fiercly opposed the ideas, Germany ratifying the EU constitution without even consulting its citizens, the US electing (or maybe not? who knows?) George W. Bush for his first term in office, etc.

Democracy is not an idelogy you could follow. In voting for which club to go to, you followed the ideas (or, if you want to, ideology) of Western democracy.
Western democracies are based on the ideology that all people are equal as soon as they are of age. So all your votes counted the same, and you were all entitled to vote as you were old enough by consent.
In ancient Greece, slaves, women and people without land were not entitled to a vote, and it was still democracy.
In Western countries today, children and non-citizens are not entitled to vote, and it is still democracy.
In Communist and Socialist countries, people most of the time only could vote yes or no on one option, not decide between two alternatives, and it was still democracy.

You were behaving according to an ideology that encorporated democracy and uses it as a tool, not to democracy itself.

I'm following the principles of direct democracy and I deserve a cookie. :)

And had the citizens voted on the constitution or on other, possibly related things?
If the people don't vote for the issue at hand, then I reckon there is an argument to be made for not asking them.

Well, if you take democracy literally, the people would have to decide on every single issue at hand, including the kind of toilet paper to be used in government buildings...

I'm following the principles of direct democracy and I deserve a cookie. :)

Ok, have a cookie ;)

This is fairly optomistic of you. Just about ever country in the world has prohibition to some degree. In the US it is the "War on Drugs," everywhere else it just has a less fancy name.

Thanks. :)
Yeah, but in every case, that which they ban ends up being that which they spend the most money fighting. It doesn't make any sense. Gun control and the drug war has stolen billions of dollars which could have been better spent to overhaul Medicare and improve the Border Patrol. We need better ENFORCEMENT of laws, not more laws/laws that curtail the liberty of citizens.
Note, I'm not a lawless cretin. We need laws for the common good. But if I want to own an Uzi or my buddy wants to toke up in his own house, I don't see how it's anyone's business.

Britain is currently considering various things that will curtail individual liberty. Also the legitslature here has also passed bill on things such as Fox Hunting, all of which curtail liberty.

Yep. I heard about the fox hunting. They've been doing that for centuries, most notably by keeping you guys disarmed. (I've only been to Enland once, for a week, and I'm no expert on English law...)

Personally, I believe that there is going to be a huge upswing in authoritarianism on the part of the state here in Europe. All because of the short sighted xenophobia of many. Well, not all, some of the excesses of political correctness are getting inshrined into law.

It could well be. But by the same token, if the various Euro nations aren't careful, they'll lose their cultural heritage, either by assimilation (into a monolithic EU rules by an elite that make US politics look moral), or simply due to declining birth rates (ie: Austria).

I suppose it would have to be any form of discrimination positive or negative
or moneterism,

You leave my biscuits alone you anti cookieist fun police

I oppose ageism, anticommunism, anti-Semitism, apartheid, authoritarianism, Bushonomics, capitalism, casteism, classical liberalism, colonialism, conservatism, corporatism, dictatorship, fascism, feudalism, foolocracy, Francoism, heightism, imperialism, Islamofascism, jingoism, libertarianism (as in, roughly, classical liberalism), looksism, McCarthyism, Maoism, mercantilism, militarism, kleptocracy, narcokleptocracy, nationalism, Nazism, ochlocracy, oligarchy, Peronism, pornocracy, racism, Reaganomics, sexism, slavery, slavocracy, Stalinism, state capitalism, state terrorism, stratocracy, terrorism, theocracy, totalitarianism, tyranny, and maybe others I haven't thought of.

I oppose communism, anti-semitism, authoritarianism, nationalism, fascism (almost the same), casteism, statism (dictatorship/ tyrany), feudalism, socialism, McCarthyism, Maoism, Stalinism, militarism, racism, dominionism (theocracy), totalitarianism.

ignorance has become an ideology these days too.

It's just that those who follow it don't really know or care...

ignorance has become an ideology these days too.

It's just that those who follow it don't really know or care...

I thought ignorance was a form of government ;)

Yeah you know who I'm winking at.

I oppose any ideology that restricts political, civil, and economic freedoms.

Ex. Fascism, communism, rascism, etc.

I oppose any ideology that actively disparages those who do not follow it. (Christianity, Islam, Communism, Democracy, Nationalism, etc).
I oppose any governmental ideaology containing the notion that people need to be protected from themselves, or told how to think.
I oppose any social ideology that seperates people on any basis other than their choices. (This would include caste systems, as well as meritocratic, racist, or similar social constructs).
In particular, I oppose any ideologies that denigrate the pursuit of my leisure activities, which are those of a hedonistic adrenline junky geek. This should get rid of Luddites, moralists, people who espouse otherworldly pleasures at the expense of this lifetime, and anbody else who thinks that people shoud be prevented from unhealthy or dangerous fun.

I oppose capitalism,fascism, imperialism, Islamofascism, jingoism, Kruschevism, Leninism, McCarthyism, Maoism, nationalism, Nazism, racism, Stalinism, terrorism, theocracy, totalitarianism.

I vehemently oppose determinism and the idea of fate as a real force that has laid out our lives, and the entire timeline, from beginning to end.

awww... what's your soy beef with vegans????

luv,
a vegan/animal rights activist from ny :confused:

When I was threatened by a vegan outside of Golden Corral, just for eating there, (I go for the mashed potatoes mostly), that sorta made an impression.

They try to convert me too much and use terroristic means.

Are those ideologies? And better yet, does anyone care? I think that we can all agree: no.

Hey, I just answered the thread as best as I could. If you don't care that's fine. No need to raise a storm about it.

I oppose socialism, communism, Nazism, fascism, and all ideologies which favor big government. That government is best which governs least, as good ol' Tom Jefferson once said.

I oppose Paleoconservatism, Neoconservatism, Nationalism, Liberalism, Libertarianism, Capitalism, Imperialism, Industrial/Agricultural Protectionism, McCarthyism, Reaganism, Thatcherism, Fascism, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, Totalitarianism, Jihadism, Barbarism, Islamofascism, Pacifism, Chomskyism, Isolationism, Racism, Ageism, Sexism, Heterosexism, Spiritualism, Sectarianism, Anti-Semitism, Religious Fundamentalism, Objectivism, Individualism, Short-sighted Pragmatism, Moral Relativism, Segregationism, Populism, Plutocracy, Theocracy, Creationism

Communism, Socialism, Scottish Nationalism, Marxist-Leninism, Catholicism,
Anumism, Titoism, Castroism. Lots Of Stuff I Suppose

I oppose stupidity and evil.

I am for love and mercy.

Originally Posted by Xanthal
Are those ideologies? And better yet, does anyone care? I think that we can all agree: no.

Hey, I just answered the thread as best as I could. If you don't care that's fine. No need to raise a storm about it.

Xanthal doesn't, never has and never will speak for me.

I oppose authority.

When I was threatened by a vegan outside of Golden Corral, just for eating there, (I go for the mashed potatoes mostly), that sorta made an impression.

They try to convert me too much and use terroristic means.


What was the threat exactly? I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a vegan, but I think denouncing the entire movement and philosophy of veganism and animal rights after meeting one rude person to me sounds pretty harsh.

I also oppose internationalism and blind nationalism.

I oppose most ideologies, but authoritarianism is the big one.

I oppose most ideologies, but authoritarianism is the big one.

Wow, so you oppose authoritarianism more than totalitarianism?

Most 'isms' get my goat, but top of my list these days would be 'neoconservativism'

Oh, and could someone please enlighten me - why do US citizens need handguns and assault rifles? You are far more likely to a) shoot yourself b) have your kids shoot themselves c) be shot by your own gun taken from you by a criminal than actually protect yourself. If only cops and crooks had guns, then the cops (who wear uniforms) would know whom to shoot.

Most 'isms' get my goat, but top of my list these days would be 'neoconservativism'

Oh, and could someone please enlighten me - why do US citizens need handguns and assault rifles? You are far more likely to a) shoot yourself b) have your kids shoot themselves c) be shot by your own gun taken from you by a criminal than actually protect yourself. If only cops and crooks had guns, then the cops (who wear uniforms) would know whom to shoot.

So they can feel like manly men :mp5:

no wait...

:sniper:

ahhh much better.

Most 'isms' get my goat, but top of my list these days would be 'neoconservativism'

Oh, and could someone please enlighten me - why do US citizens need handguns and assault rifles? You are far more likely to a) shoot yourself b) have your kids shoot themselves c) be shot by your own gun taken from you by a criminal than actually protect yourself. If only cops and crooks had guns, then the cops (who wear uniforms) would know whom to shoot.

Why does anybody need a car? It pollutes, kills people, and causes wars for oil.

Cops take 15 minutes to get anywhere. Next time you're being raped, keep in mind how good it is that only crooks have guns. :rolleyes:

i oppose:

communism, sm, socialism, globalism, free-tradeism, collectivism, libertarianism, protestentism, any form of Leftism, anarcism, , sxism, ageism, enviromentalism, extreme animal rightsism, feminism, the ACLU, PETA, the National Organization of Women, ALL FORMS OF LIBERALISM, anti-semitism, any one that does not despise the french and english, democracy, monarcy, the arabs, and a bunch of others i cant think of.

Why does anybody need a car? It pollutes, kills people, and causes wars for oil.

Cops take 15 minutes to get anywhere. Next time you're being raped, keep in mind how good it is that only crooks have guns. :rolleyes:

And those damn pigs will take even longer to get there without a car!

I oppose:

Republicanism.
Individualism.
Unexamined Hedonism.
Anarchism.
Anti-globalism.
Anti-humanism (I'm lookin' at you, Earth First)
Market Deregulation.
Imperial Age Apologetics.
Neo-Luddites (And you, GreenFreaks!)
ARAs.
Pacifism.
Americanisation. (I love America. I really do. I love the accent, the people, the culture, the art and SOME of the literature. But stop sodomising my language. PLEASE)
Democratisation.
Liberalism.
Radical Atheism. (Do what you want in your own heart, but stop calling me an idiot and I'll stop calling you Hell Divers.)
Feminazism (We're all equal! For Fs sake, I've had 18 years of no female oppression whatsoever, so quit sneering at me!)

And those damn pigs will take even longer to get there without a car!

Obviously, you've never seen mid-town traffic. :D

Obviously, you've never seen mid-town traffic. :D

Ofcourse not, especially now that I drive a tank.

All right; I oppose:

Communism
Fascism
Feminism
Socialism
Authoritarianism
Totalitarianism
Communitarianism
Anarchism
Collectivism
Anti-Semitism
Populism

There are probably others, but that's what I can think of now.

Why does anybody need a car? It pollutes, kills people, and causes wars for oil.

Well, until they perfect the whole teleportation thingy, or my boss lets me perpetually work from home, I've still got 30k to travel 2x a day. Sure it pollutes, but it hasn't killed anybody, and the Canadian government hasn't gone to war over oil.

Cops take 15 minutes to get anywhere.

ok...

Next time you're being raped, keep in mind how good it is that only crooks have guns. :rolleyes:

If someone finds a slightly overweight, balding middle-aged guy rape-worthy I'd question their sanity.

What was the threat exactly? I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a vegan, but I think denouncing the entire movement and philosophy of veganism and animal rights after meeting one rude person to me sounds pretty harsh.

Well, he tailed me back to my apartment complex. That to me is a threat. Before I went in he just said how I was an evil person for going in there and how I was endorsing murderers.

The way I see it, humans are omnivors. Their teeth are shaped to eat meat and to eat plants. Other animals kill other animals for food, why shouldn't we. It's our nature, after all.

Also, I love my cat. She keeps me company, and has been my best companion for 14 years. Groups like PETA want total animal liberation. That means no pets, no zoos, etc. Sorry, but if I want to see a shark, I'm gonna go to an aquarium, not dive in with one.

Well, until they perfect the whole teleportation thingy, or my boss lets me perpetually work from home, I've still got 30k to travel 2x a day. Sure it pollutes, but it hasn't killed anybody, and the Canadian government hasn't gone to war over oil.

Cars kill more people than guns in the US.

If someone finds a slightly overweight, balding middle-aged guy rape-worthy I'd question their sanity.

Dude, there are some FREAKS out there!

Anyway... questioning the right to have guns is like questioning the right to have anything else... books, seafood, birth control, color TV... a thing is a thing is a thing.

Behaviorism, machiavellianism, fascism, capitalism, Stalinism, sexism, racism, et al.

Ofcourse not, especially now that I drive a tank.

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Well, heck... Do you know how much money we could make with a tank-taxi service?!? :D

Our motto: "You need to get to the Diamond District in 10 minutes? No problem!"

Cars kill more people than guns in the US.

true - but if everyone who had a vehicle traded it in for a gun, and used it just as often on crowded highways, then those who had guns traded them in for cars that they locked in the garage and brought out only on weekends, you'd see those numbers flip pretty friggin' quickly. ;)

Dude, there are some FREAKS out there!

True enough, but considering how much time I spend a) at work b) at home c) commuting from work to home: there really isn't much opportunity for a nutbar to pump my ass. Which, of course, is a good thing.

Anyway... questioning the right to have guns is like questioning the right to have anything else... books, seafood, birth control, color TV... a thing is a thing is a thing.

not really. not when the entire purpose of the item in question is 'to kill another person' - they don't let you keep uranium stockpiles, envelopes stuffed with anthrax, or landmines - aren't those things too? The only difference between them is 'the right to bear arms' - which the US stopped needing when the wild west wasn't wild anymore.

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Well, heck... Do you know how much money we could make with a tank-taxi service?!? :D

Our motto: "You need to get to the Diamond District in 10 minutes? No problem!"

But what if a passenger turns out to be a thief and robs us while we're inside the tank? :gundge:

Ideologies aren't too great in general...I don't really have time to go into depth right now, but I highly suggest that everyone read The Unconscious Civilization by John Ralston Saul. He has some excellent ideas concerning this stuff.

Nazism, Fascism, Racism, Homophobia- should all be opposed with physical force to ensure they don't gain any influence over society

Other ideas/movements/ideologies I dislike and will fight against
Capitalism, Libertarianism/Neoliberalism/Classic Liberalism, Conservatism, Liberalism, Stalinism, Imperialism Maoism, Anticommunism, Misogyny (sp?), Theocracy, Zionism, Totalitarianism, Wage Slavery, Anti trade unionism, Colonialism, Nationalism/Patriotism, Socialism with Chinese characteristics, Anti democracy ideas, Neoconservatism, Prohibitionism

Movements that I have some respect for but still piss me off ultimately
Reformism, Democratic Socialism, Anarchism, Environmentalism

I oppose ageism, androcracy, anticommunism, antihumanism, anti-Semitism, apartheid, arithmocracy, aristocracy, authoritarianism, autocracy, bureaucracy, Bushonomics, capitalism, casteism, centrism, classical liberalism, colonialism, conservatism, corporatism, dictatorship, dominionism, elitism, fascism, feudalism, foolocracy, Francoism, fundamentalism of any type, gerontocracy, gynecocracy, hagiocracy, heightism, heterosexism, hierocracy, homophobia, imperialism, Islamofascism, jihadism, jingoism, juche, kakistocracy, kleptocracy, laissez-faire capitalism, landocracy, Leninism, libertarianism (as in, roughly, classical liberalism), looksism, McCarthyism, Manifest Destiny, Maoism, market capitalism, market deregulation, mercantilism, militarism, militocracy, mobocracy, monarchy, monocracy, narcokleptocracy, nationalism, Nazism, neoconservatism, ochlocracy, oligarchy, paleoconservatism, paparchy, patriotism, pedantocracy, Peronism, physiocracy, plantocracy, plutocracy, pornocracy, PRIism, racism, Reaganomics, regressivism, Republicanism, rugged individualism, segregation, seniocracy, sexism, slavery, slavocracy, speciesism, Stalinism, state capitalism, state terrorism, statism, stratocracy, terrorism, Thatcherism, theocracy, timocracy, totalitarianism, tyranny, ultracapitalism, xenophobia, and maybe others I haven't thought of.

what you said minus-
authoritarianism, autocracy, dictatorship, dominionism, elitism, fascism, Francoism, Maoism, militarism, militocracy, oligarchy, Stalinism, statism, and totalitarianism

also, i don't know what quite a few of those are? what's plantocracy, rule of the plants? if so, i'm for it! plants are allive too, they pretty much already rule the world. look at the ground nearly anywhere, what do you see? then who is the more succesefull kingdom? well, actually, i'd say archae are, but that's another discussion...

and plus these things+
libertarianism, liberalism, socialism, political leftism, political rightism, nearly any religion, homosexuality, feminists, masculists, altruists, egoists, and a bunch of other things i can't remember right now, but you covered most of it i think.

...as good ol' Tom Jefferson once said.

"Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least ?"

But what if a passenger turns out to be a thief and robs us while we're inside the tank? :gundge:

We do it old-school Soviet style! They ride *on* the tank, not in it! :D

"Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least ?"

Holy crap! He said that?

How the hell does castration equate to a punctured nose?

true - but if everyone who had a vehicle traded it in for a gun, and used it just as often on crowded highways, then those who had guns traded them in for cars that they locked in the garage and brought out only on weekends, you'd see those numbers flip pretty friggin' quickly. ;)


True. By the same token, however...those are all legal cars. Why is it that people are outraged when an illegal firearm is used, but not an illegal vehicle? This happened less than a mile from my train station:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8074715/

Also, imagine that you want to buy a car, and are told that:
* Depending on the state you're in, you may or may not be able to drive it in public.
* You're only allowed a Ford Escort, Toyota Carolla, or a Buick Regal, and only 4 cylinder versions.
* Depending on where you live, you have to be fingerprinted, photographed, notarized, wait two months, and possibly have the police speak with your neighbors before your license is given to you.

True enough, but considering how much time I spend a) at work b) at home c) commuting from work to home: there really isn't much opportunity for a nutbar to pump my ass. Which, of course, is a good thing.

Fair enough. Just don't make those 10pm runs to the K-Mart, right? ;)

not really. not when the entire purpose of the item in question is 'to kill another person' - they don't let you keep uranium stockpiles, envelopes stuffed with anthrax, or landmines - aren't those things too? The only difference between them is 'the right to bear arms' - which the US stopped needing when the wild west wasn't wild anymore.

My guns' purpose is to move a projectile a distance.
My cars' purpose is to move me & stuff a distance.

To date, my guns have killed 1 deer & 1 ornery IBM laptop.
My car has killed a deer.
My mother's car (she lives about 15 miles away) has killed 5 deer (and other assorted critters).

...and I won't even get into the number of kitchen knife attacks in NYC or London... things are things. It's the application that's the devil in the details.

(In case you haven't guessed, I'm for maximum personal responsibility & freedom.)

Behaviorism, machiavellianism, fascism, capitalism, Stalinism, sexism, racism, et al.

Machiavellianism? Is that even an -ism? If so, what the hell kinda -ism is it? I always thought of my namesake as something of a pragmatist.

Perhaps Pramatism is the -ism you're looking for?

We do it old-school Soviet style! They ride *on* the tank, not in it! :D

In that case why limit it to a taxi service? We could start our own bus route. "The Baghdad Express"

I oppose... tourism.


Here here..Those bastards with their Cameras!

Also, imagine that you want to buy a car, and are told that:
* Depending on the state you're in, you may or may not be able to drive it in public.


So you're allowed to drive while in a state of drunkeness? No wonder you and your mother have killed so many deer (and other assorted critters).

Machiavellianism? Is that even an -ism? If so, what the hell kinda -ism is it? I always thought of my namesake as something of a pragmatist.

Perhaps Pramatism is the -ism you're looking for?

Machiavelli was primarily a supporter of civic republicanism, though this is not evident in "The Prince", so it is not generally known. However, throughout his actions and other work, we can see that he was a republican (though obviously not in the american sense). He is similar in many ways to Montesqueu (sp?)

So you're allowed to drive while in a state of drunkeness? No wonder you and your mother have killed so many deer (and other assorted critters).

State as in state of the US. :rolleyes:

State as in state of the US. :rolleyes:

I don't know much about the State of the U.S. I always thought the U.S. was a country. But since you have thought to make the comparison between firearms and vehicles, do you have to take a test to prove you can properly use a fire arm? And after hearing about you and your mother's driving record I'm thinking not only do we need stronger gun legislation, but maybe more rigid laws on who gets to drive and who doesn't.

P.S. You didn't say what you think about my bus idea :(

I don't know much about the State of the U.S. I always thought the U.S. was a country.Oye Oye, it's not funny, and we all wish you would knock it off. *everyone yells "Maybe you do, but..."*

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Oye Oye, it's not funny, and we all wish you would knock it off. *everyone yells "Maybe you do, but..."*

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Get yourself a sense of humour supreme ruler of the universe. If you bothered to read the rest of the post you'd see that there is a point being made.

P.S. I oppose Czardism... The ideology that fascists speak for the general populace.

I oppose:
Progressivism, Socialism, Centrism (if you can be a 'centrist' it must be an -ism), Statism, Facism, Corporatism, Environmentalism, Scientism, Objectivism, Interventionism, Protectionism, Militarism, Feminism, Mercantilism, Welfare State-ism, Warfare State-ism, and pretty much any other kind of statism as well as several other -isms.

I oppose everything that doesn't line up exactly with my views.


Can you tell I'm a socialist :p

Communism, Fascism, Populism, Socialism, Nazism, Racism, Sexism, Dumbassism, etc.

I oppose Nationalism, Capitalism, Fascism, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, Conservatism, Classical Liberalism, Authoritarianism, Sexism, Racism, Homophobia, NeoConservatism, NeoLiberalism, Religious Fundamentalism, Imperialism, Colonialism, Monarchy, Patriotism, Regressivism, Anti-Semitism, Statism, Centrism, Elitism, Terrorism, Feudalism, Slavery, Theocracy, and probably many more.

I opose:

Southern Baptists, Calvinism, Devout Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventistism, Devout Islam, Devout Judaism, Fascism, Stalinism, Socialism, Conservativism, Neo-Conservativism, Anti-Semitism, Nazism, sexism, homophobia, racism, Republicism and more.