NationStates Jolt Archive


New Fa$cist Economical Theory?

The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 16:32
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Originally Posted by Liskeinland
Hmm, well at least you don't get called a "bleeding-heart liberal". Which is very annoying considering I'm not, I advocate public flogging for heavens' sakeā€¦

Curious, how Fa$citic are you?
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well i was rereading the Doctrine last night before i went to bed, you know, a little light reading, and i was thinking that same thing. i'm very much so socially, but im even more extreme economically. economically im totalitarian, actually somewhat communist if you want to think of it like that. for the nation's economy, i believe that the best thing would be for the government to look at the individual and see what their talents and intrests are, find a medium, and send them into a school just for that for the rest of their schooling (this testing occuring when they are 14, and then go to school until they are 24, therefore haveing 10 years of schooling, in a paticualar subject, on top of 10 years of basic schooling everyone recieves). after they graduate they go into their field and stay there until it is time for them to retire at 65 years old. now, each part of the economy (steel, technology, education, medical, garbage, etc.) is to be divided up into what i like to refer to as Hages. each Hage is run by a Director, and that Director is responsible for all the economy under their juristiction, and they are aided by sub-directors. every day the Directors make a report on all economical things under their rule to the SupremeDirector, who is the leader of the entire nation and makes all socioeconomic decisions aided by his own advisiors and the Directors under him.

"the State is all. outside the State man is a nonentity" - direct quote from our Doctrine. (if you want to read it its at www.realfa$cism.com, just change the money symbol with a "s" to go there.)

does that answer your question? im 16 years old and i have been studying and developing totalitarian theory since i was in 7th grade. also, if you have ever read the Emperyion series, then you can see the obvious references to it, those two books changed my life.


ok, all that was from a different thread, but i felt it deserved its own thread. how many people out there at least somewhat agree with what i wrote, if you do how much and where are you against it, and if your completly against it, why. AND NO FLAMING. this is a serious thread, if your going to spam or flame just dont post at all.
Verghastinsel
14-06-2005, 16:37
Hey...I know this is unrelated, but what does the NAS in your name stand for?
Tactical Grace
14-06-2005, 16:37
You can't tell much about a person at the age of 14. A lot of people finding themselves in such a system, will end up getting bored of whatever stream they are on, and rebel.
Maniacal Me
14-06-2005, 16:58
What would you do with someone who showed an aptitude for multiple fields?
What would you do with people in high stress jobs who get burned out and need a change?
Alien Born
14-06-2005, 17:02
Which subject is it that you are trying to avoid having to do?
At 14 you specialize - means at 14 you don't have to do lots of things you are not good at to me.
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:20
You can't tell much about a person at the age of 14. A lot of people finding themselves in such a system, will end up getting bored of whatever stream they are on, and rebel.

ah, you see, but that is where you are wrong. you see, they will have been brought up with a respect for the State, taught to them through the study of history and shown to them by the Power of the State. they will not rebel, for they will have been taught not to. ever.
CthulhuFhtagn
14-06-2005, 19:22
ah, you see, but that is where you are wrong. you see, they will have been brought up with a respect for the State, taught to them through the study of history and shown to them by the Power of the State. they will not rebel, for they will have been taught not to. ever.
WAR IS PEACE.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:25
What would you do with someone who showed an aptitude for multiple fields?
What would you do with people in high stress jobs who get burned out and need a change?

for the first point you raised, people with high aptitude in multiple fields and a high gpa in their basic schooling would go into research and development, and, depending upon which fields they were better at, will decide which research part they are put in, wether it is military, agriculture, building, etc.

high stress jobs will be regulated. the work force will be divided into four shifts. two of them are the usual day and night shifts, but they also will trade off day by day, so that the most extreme high stress jobs only need to work every other day and trade off with the other 2 shifts in peace time. in war time, all work every day in those high stress jobs. regular jobs work the regular 8 hour work day every day.
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:27
WAR IS PEACE.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

the first two have a warped logic to them, but the third one doesnt? strength for whom? the State? then yes, for the masses are ignorant, which is why there must be a powerful State. a person is intelligent, people are excitable, stupid, and in a constant state of anarcy
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:28
Which subject is it that you are trying to avoid having to do?
At 14 you specialize - means at 14 you don't have to do lots of things you are not good at to me.

i'm not sure i understand what you are trying to say
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:29
Hey...I know this is unrelated, but what does the NAS in your name stand for?

NeoArcticSun, its a group i founded 6 years ago
CthulhuFhtagn
14-06-2005, 19:36
the first two have a warped logic to them, but the third one doesnt? strength for whom? the State? then yes, for the masses are ignorant, which is why there must be a powerful State. a person is intelligent, people are excitable, stupid, and in a constant state of anarcy
*chuckles*

You don't recognize where it's from. Which is good, because you might get ideas.
Vetalia
14-06-2005, 19:37
*chuckles*

You don't recognize where it's from. Which is good, because you might get ideas.

BB!...BB!...BB!
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:46
BB!...BB!...BB!

????????

where is it from, mein kumph? because i havent read that and refuse to read it, although i have read the communist manifesto
Vetalia
14-06-2005, 19:47
????????

where is it from, mein kumph? because i havent read that and refuse to read it, although i have read the communist manifesto

No, it's from a book by George Orwell.
Luo Lua
14-06-2005, 19:49
How does a fascist such as yourself define the purpose of the state?
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:56
How does a t such as yourself define the purpose of the state?

the purpose of the State is to allow man to obtain their highest level of ability. the puropse of the State is far more then to keep the peace and be diplomatic, the State is the nation and the nation is the people. without the State there is no nation, for the nation does not make the State, rather the State creates the nation. The State, therefore, must be involved in all socioeconomic things. now, granted, i do not toe the party line, my definiton differs slightly from others who hold my views, but we are pretty similar. the party line states that capitalism is allowed as long as it benifits the State the most. i however see capitalism working for only the State. the State rules all, for the State is all. The State, simply, rules all for the benifit of the State, for when the State benifits, the nation benefits. if the nation benefits, the society benefits, and when society benefits, the individual benefits.
The NAS Rebels
14-06-2005, 19:57
No, it's from a book by George Orwell.

which one? 1984? animal farm? ive read animal farm, although i read it in 5th grade so i dont remember much about it, and i only read a little of 1984.
Vetalia
14-06-2005, 19:59
which one? 1984? animal farm? ive read animal farm, although i read it in 5th grade so i dont remember much about it, and i only read a little of 1984.

1984, although similar themes are expressed in Animal Farm.
Andaluciae
14-06-2005, 20:39
I smell bureaucratic nightmare! Uggh, just thinking about the vast hordes of administrators which would be required to run each and every one of these "Hages" makes my waste sense go off. The over (as well as under) estimation that would occur would slowly grind the economy to a halt. (see: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics)
Neo-Anarchists
14-06-2005, 20:43
I'd think a bureaucratic nightmare of the fully centrally planned economy you proposed, combined with the people having no choice in what they do, and the people being indoctrinated from birth, would cause progress to grind to either a very slow pace or a complete halt.

There goes the future.
Objectivist Patriots
14-06-2005, 23:42
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever" - George Orwell
Letila
15-06-2005, 01:37
How about no, nein, iie, etc.? Your totalitarian system is not for me.
The Kea
15-06-2005, 02:35
If you want to sound intelligent, capitalize and punctuate.