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Their always seems to be someone on here bashing anothers religeon whether they be Christian (Catholic),Anglican,Baptist,Witch,Jew,Muslim or Jedi

But surely we can agree on one thing we all must have a communal distrust of the Scientologists surely?
Equally worse than those pesky Mormons and JW's

My Boss when in Germany back in the day went to a couple of their meetings..
The reason he did this was because it was cold and they offered him a cup of Coco and a bit of warnth until the Snow stopped.

They are like Mind Warpers man scam artists too and now theyve got Katie Holmes and Beck you know he is a Scientologist!
His bass player too.

Can they be stopped should we stop them?

Their always seems to be someone on here bashing anothers religeon whether they be Christian (Catholic),Anglican,Baptist,Witch,Jew,Muslim or Jedi

But surely we can agree on one thing we all must have a communal distrust of the Scientologists surely?
Equally worse than those pesky Mormons and JW's

My Boss when in Germany back in the day went to a couple of their meetings..
The reason he did this was because it was cold and they offered him a cup of Coco and a bit of warnth until the Snow stopped.

They are like Mind Warpers man scam artists too and now theyve got Katie Holmes and Beck you know he is a Scientologist!
His bass player too.

Can they be stopped should we stop them?

Use the force Harlesburg... then learn to spell religion.

I have to confess I loathe Satanism, but that's because I believe it's inherently flawed and runs counter to everything I believe in. :) I haven't been annoyed much by religion, to be honest. Lucky me. I know I AM annoying about religion.

Their always seems to be someone on here bashing anothers religeon whether they be Christian (Catholic),Anglican,Baptist,Witch,Jew,Muslim or Jedi

But surely we can agree on one thing we all must have a communal distrust of the Scientologists surely?
Equally worse than those pesky Mormons and JW's

My Boss when in Germany back in the day went to a couple of their meetings..
The reason he did this was because it was cold and they offered him a cup of Coco and a bit of warnth until the Snow stopped.

They are like Mind Warpers man scam artists too and now theyve got Katie Holmes and Beck you know he is a Scientologist!
His bass player too.

Can they be stopped should we stop them?


...what in hell are you on about?

That's true.. transparency is helpful if you're going to trust an organization.

I can walk into most Christian churches and learn their customs and heirarchy.. but scientologists and mormons have a thick layer of secrecy, keeping some practices away from the public and their own lower-caste members... some if it leaks, but many of their practices are kept secret but to a few in the upper-caste. That's cult behavior.

What are Scientologists? What is Scientology?

What are Scientologists? What is Scientology?

Hehe.. check Wikipedia.. you're in for a treat.. ;)

It involves space ships and aliens who roamed the Earth 4 quadrillion years ago.. or something.. it's nutty.

As I'm a catholic I'm gonna bash my own religion, or a certain sect which is Opus Dei

As I'm a catholic I'm gonna bash my own religion, or a certain sect which is Opus Dei


... :eek: *jumps behind sofa*

Silas! ...the da vinci code!

The worst religion? That would be the Aztec, or any other that needs human sarifices. Christianity is a good one (apart from the catholic church) in theory, too bad men have used it to justify all kinds of murders.

In general, religions are only as bad or good as the people running them.


Except for scientology.

... :eek: *jumps behind sofa*

Silas! ...the da vinci code!

On my list of things to read but always find something I wanna read more

You cannot find any "worst" religion OR "best" religion. Because to be perfectly honest, all religions have their positive points, and all religions have their crap.

Use the force Harlesburg... then learn to spell religion.
Quit Trolling Troll!

I can spell i just didnt! ;)

Jedi is weak it didnt even get recognition in the census!

You cannot find any "worst" religion OR "best" religion. Because to be perfectly honest, all religions have their positive points, and all religions have their crap.
Thats just fence sitting!

In general, religions are only as bad or good as the people running them.


Except for scientology.
Well, Hubbard did say a few suspicious things about religion, such as something to the effect of "If you want to make money, start a religion.".

On my list of things to read but always find something I wanna read more


its a good read...i also read angels and demons and i am going to start deception point tonight....but da vinci code is my favorite so far

Quit Trolling Troll!

I can spell i just didnt! ;)

Jedi is weak it didnt even get recognition in the census!

The person who started a thread called "Worst Religion..." is calling me a troll?

I would say that scientology and the Raelian movement tie for worst.
Although mormonism isn't so great either... http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/losttotheonlylifetheyknew;_ylt=AhbVw41j_oVSMgVsFva_75as0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2bm5xNHVjBHNlYwNtcA--

I am more than happy to throw more support in the "Scientology Sucks" camp. It is a vile and disgusting cult which uses celebrities to popularise its practise. Ugh. Ugh!


I hope their lawyers aren't reading this :(

why do these weird sects only happen in america?....i have never heard of these scientologists until i read this thread.....what is one?...what are their disgusting practises?.....

I would say that scientology and the Raelian movement tie for worst.


*Jumps in after quite an absence*

I have to agree mostly. Except I say they both tie for stupidest.
Really, I feel a headache of stupidity just reading about those two.

why do these weird sects only happen in america?....i have never heard of these scientologists until i read this thread.....what is one?...what are their disgusting practises?.....

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html

Read the operating thetan manuals. These contain the secret teachings of scientology. Jump straight to OT-VIII if you want to see how crazy they truly are. Here is a sample:

Some eighty-odd million years ago Earth time (it actually dates at 78,395,042
but dates are a bit superfluous with this material) plans were drawn by a
group outside the MEST universe for the eventual takeover of a good portion of
this universe. Not a particularly large nor imaginative crew, their exterior
perspective, however, gives them considerable advantage over tho time-bound
beings of the MEST universe. Borrowing from earlier operations such as
Helatrobus, they conceived an ongoing implant, some portions of which have been
fairly faithfully rendered in parts of the Bible.

The cult of scientology was started by a fairly successful science fiction writer by the name of L. Ron Hubbard. The religion believes in space confederacies, alien invasions, a massive alien conspiracy to take over the universe, and other such craziness. The scary part is that it has still managed to sucker many wealthy people into its fold.

Check out http://www.xenu.com/ for some tasty details about Scientology. Stuff I found hard to believe.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html

Read the operating thetan manuals. These contain the secret teachings of scientology. Jump straight to OT-VIII if you want to see how crazy they truly are. Here is a sample:



The cult of scientology was started by a fairly successful science fiction writer by the name of L. Ron Hubbard. The religion believes in space confederacies, alien invasions, a massive alien conspiracy to take over the universe, and other such craziness. The scary part is that it has still managed to sucker many wealthy people into its fold.


so...thr'e fruits?....fair enough

Scientology is a scam and a cult whose beliefs are bad sci-fi from a writer who said “I’d like to start a religion. That’s where the money is.”

More quotes at http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/5.htm

Well, Hubbard did say a few suspicious things about religion, such as something to the effect of "If you want to make money, start a religion.".

And he most certainly did.

Check out http://www.xenu.com/ for some tasty details about Scientology. Stuff I found hard to believe. Hmm. Very interesting.

As far as I know (but i could be very, very wrong) scientology only accepts (preferably rich) adults into its ranks. These people choose to join - and one assumes they know about the brainwashing rumours. If not, they join something they haven't researched, are being stupid and somewhat deserve what they get.

If they also accept children and indoctrinate them, prisontime. But I say the same thing about Catholicism so I doubt it will happen.

Hehe.. check Wikipedia.. you're in for a treat.. ;)

It involves space ships and aliens who roamed the Earth 4 quadrillion years ago.. or something.. it's nutty.

And it was all started by a science fiction writer! Its also the reason Tom Cruise decided to do War of the Worlds...he hopes his 'saviour' will like it enough to take him off this planet (we live in hope)

I think we should start our own nationstates religion....Nationstatesology.

For me its any religion that sticks its nose into my life the most… right now Christianity (if I happen to move or things change … then maybe a different story)

Scientology sounds less like a religion and more like something that would make a cool Sci-fi movie.

I would say that scientology and the Raelian movement tie for worst.
Although mormonism isn't so great either... http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/losttotheonlylifetheyknew;_ylt=AhbVw41j_oVSMgVsFva_75as0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2bm5xNHVjBHNlYwNtcA--

Damnit, you beat me to it.
Throwing male children out on the streets so you can have more wives is just evil.
BTW, my mother was a member of LDS until she found out that the highest level of heaven was reserved for white men. Now she's an atheist. Go figure.

Scientology sounds less like a religion and more like something that would make a cool Sci-fi movie.

A sci-fi movie, yes, a cool one, no.

It's not so much a religion as a scam to get money from people, specially rich people like Tom Cruise.

Man, you guys want to read a book that has all kinda of odd beliefs and practices, read the book "Why So Many Gods" you havent been creeped out till you read a Black Mass is all about(picture this, communion with human urine instead of wine, and leather instead of bread)

Yeah.....Mormonism is really hurting genuine Christianity. On the positive side, some of their guys are hot in their cool suits ;)

Man, you guys want to read a book that has all kinda of odd beliefs and practices, read the book "Why So Many Gods" you havent been creeped out till you read a Black Mass is all about(picture this, communion with human urine instead of wine, and leather instead of bread)People who drink piss offend me less than people who throw children out on the streets. Has anyone even bothered to read the link Dakini posted?

Man, you guys want to read a book that has all kinda of odd beliefs and practices, read the book "Why So Many Gods" you havent been creeped out till you read a Black Mass is all about(picture this, communion with human urine instead of wine, and leather instead of bread)

Where I come from it's called performance art and they charge a five dollar cover at the door.

People who drink piss offend me less than people who throw children out on the streets. Has anyone even bothered to read the link Dakini posted? Yeah, I did. *disassociates self from Mormons*
*is using asterisks way too much these days*

Of course some religions are "worse" than others! You can't equate Buddhism with the Necromonger death-religion (yes, I know it's fictional).

(picture this, communion with human urine instead of wine, and leather instead of bread)

*pictures it*
*sees nothing wrong with it*

Drinking urine is a common thing in many cultures, mostly Asian, that has been going on for 1000s of years. I do doubt the validity of statements it is healthy though (except when being stranded without water for a few weeks).

Chewing leather.. hell. Chewing gum is rubber.

Voodoo, I'm surprised is hasn't come up yet.

People who drink piss offend me less than people who throw children out on the streets. Has anyone even bothered to read the link Dakini posted?
Yes.
What can you say about it though? It's clearly totally immoral, that goes without saying, yet until you can alter the perception of the community nothing will be achieved. Those boys actually want to go back! It's basically a cult.
How do you change an entire society? :( :confused:

Yes.
What can you say about it though? It's clearly totally immoral, that goes without saying, yet until you can alter the perception of the community nothing will be achieved. Those boys actually want to go back! It's basically a cult.
How do you change an entire society? :( :confused:They want to go back to their homes and family, not to the FLDS.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Scientology is great, you can level up by reading books. The end boss is some alien or Xanadu or Kublai Khan, I can't remember which.

They want to go back to their homes and family, not to the FLDS.
Yes they do. But how many would also reaccept FLDS?

One of my college professors belonged to some religeon, (I don't know what it's called), where they believed they really didn't have bodies. People's bodies were just an illusion. :confused:

The worst religion? That would be the Aztec, or any other that needs human sarifices. Christianity is a good one (apart from the catholic church) in theory, too bad men have used it to justify all kinds of murders.
Whats bad about catholics? I would say that they are the most justified christians, the office of the pope goes all the way back to jesus.

Whats bad about catholics? I would say that they are the most justified christians, the office of the pope goes all the way back to jesus.

The first pope was a corrupt, slutty, incestual man. Just horrible.

Whats bad about catholics? I would say that they are the most justified christians, the office of the pope goes all the way back to jesus.
Incorrect the first pope was constantine who was born in 306 AD (roughly 250 years after Jesus Died)

Incorrect the first pope was constantine who was born in 306 AD (roughly 250 years after Jesus Died)
Where did you get that from? Wikipedia says that there were popes before him.

Where did you get that from? Wikipedia says that there were popes before him.
He was the first OFFICIAL pope … there was an informal run back to peter but they did not hold an official office

He was the first OFFICIAL pope … there was an informal run back to peter but they did not hold an official office
Yes but that doesn't really matter who was the official pope. The popes before him where still a leader of the church in a spiritual sense. And thats what religions all about.

Incorrect the first pope was constantine who was born in 306 AD (roughly 250 years after Jesus Died)

Constantine was a Roman Emperor who legalized Christianity and adopted it as his own religion. According to Catholic faith the first pope was Peter/ Petros "the Rock" on which the church was built.

Yes but that doesn't really matter who was the official pope. The popes before him where still a leader of the church in a spiritual sense. And thats what religions all about.
There really was not a “church” before Constantine … that man had more to do with making the religion as it truly is then just about anyone but Jesus

Peter stayed a preacher not a leader

The catholic faith tries to justify peter as the first pope with Matthew 16:18 (Jesus calling him the rock)
But this is contradicted within the bible with Matthew 21:42 and by peter himself 1 Peter 2:6
(where Jesus claims to be the rock)

Also other inconsistencies with peter being the first pope
In Matthew 8:14, Mark 1:30 and Luke 4:38. they refer to his mother in law (which means he was married)

Also rebuked by Paul in Galatians 2:11 (hardly befitting manner to treat the pope) "But when Cephas came to Antioch, I resisted him to the face, because he stood condemned."

Jesus wasn't a pope...the first person whom Catholics claim was a pope would be Peter. The main justification for the office of a pope would be Matthew 16:18 - "I also say to you that you are (A)Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of (B)Hades will not overpower it."

However, the word used in the original text for Peter was petros which means "stone" (specifically, a small stone or pebble) instead of petra which refers to a large boulder or a rock of sufficient size to construct a building upon.

Also, Matthew 23:9 - "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for (A)One is your Father, He who is in heaven."

Finally, regarding Peter's supposed prevalence over the other apostles

Luke 22:24-26

24And there arose also (U)a dispute among them as to which one of them was regarded to be greatest.
25(V)And He said to them, "The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who have authority over them are called 'Benefactors.'

26"But it is not this way with you, (W)but the one who is the greatest among you must become like (X)the youngest, and the leader like the servant.

This truly upsets me.

First of all, in the opening post of this thread, the author seems to be simply proposing that instead of bashing each other, we find a scapegoat to maul on. I am very sorry if I am misinterpreting this, but it does appear that this is true. And I have no need to remind you of the man with the moustache who conned his nation into finding a scapegoat. (I am in no way suggesting this person is a Hitler-ite or Nazi, just that evil things can ceom from seemingly innocent ideas.)

Now secondly, whats wrong with scientology? Honestly? Is it wrong because it is different? Is it wrong because it is a new idea to you? It seems that way from reading most of the posts.

Personally, I am a Jew, and proud of it. But does that mean that I cannot accept other religions or other people's faiths? Someone asked why only in America do these strange religions pop up. Quite simply, because we allow and encourage freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of expression--all in the First Amendment.

I do not believe in scientology, and I think its a pretty messed up idea, but that does not give me any right to bash it. If you accept Christianity as a valid and practiced religion, why not this? If you accept Judaism as a valid and practiced religion, why not this? If you accept Islam as a valid and practiced religion, then why not this!? These are only the three largest religions on the international scale, and they have plenty of their own flaws, inconsistencies, and contradictions. A divine ressurection of Jesus Christ? Who would believe someone could be ressurrected today? A parting of a sea so that people could walk straight through it? Without modern technology it doesnt seem likely. A FINAL prophet comes out of nowhere and preaches the word of a divine being? If someone tried that today we'd stick them in an insane assylum.

We see these faults and inconsistencies, and yet we still BELIEVE. That is the important thing, to have FAITH. So why do we feel the need to mock another person's belief, when it is clear that we are just as dumb-sounding to them? No one is right or wrong here, and the only way to survive together is to accept that. To accept that there will be people of different beliefs and ideals. I hope everyone thinks about that before bashing on anything anymore.

Originally Posted by Dakini
I would say that scientology and the Raelian movement tie for worst.
Although mormonism isn't so great either... http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/l...HVjBHNlYwNtcA--



Damnit, you beat me to it.
Throwing male children out on the streets so you can have more wives is just evil.
BTW, my mother was a member of LDS until she found out that the highest level of heaven was reserved for white men. Now she's an atheist. Go figure.


ok, I really wish people would stop spreading these stupid rumours. I am a Mormon. and NO we do NOT believe only white men will be in heaven, who ever said that is either demented or very very confused.

As for the article on the polygamists. Mormons don't practice polygamy! Any polygamists who claim to be Mormons have been excommunicated from the church!

Mormons are not bad. In fact they are some of the most non-violent, clean living people in the world. The ones that give us bad names are the ones who have dissented from the church and are doing their own thing.

As for the whole Pope thing. Peter was not a Pope he was an apostle. When he died John was still alive. Yet Catholics claim that the bishop in rome (Clement I think) took the authority from Peter when he died. Which is ridiculous because some of the Apostles were still alive!

What is higher? bishop or apostle? apostle

Religion, ist opium furs volk!

all religion regardless of name or aim is a brain washing organisation.

ok, I really wish people would stop spreading these stupid rumours. I am a Mormon. and NO we do NOT believe only white men will be in heaven, who ever said that is either demented or very very confused.

As for the article on the polygamists. Mormons don't practice polygamy! Any polygamists who claim to be Mormons have been excommunicated from the church!

Mormons are not bad. In fact they are some of the most non-violent, clean living people in the world. The ones that give us bad names are the ones who have dissented from the church and are doing their own thing.

As for the whole Pope thing. Peter was not a Pope he was an apostle. When he died John was still alive. Yet Catholics claim that the bishop in rome (Clement I think) took the authority from Peter when he died. Which is ridiculous because some of the Apostles were still alive!

What is higher? bishop or apostle? apostle

My bishop trumps your Apostle!

These are only the three largest religions on the international scale, and they have plenty of their own flaws, inconsistencies, and contradictions. A divine ressurection of Jesus Christ? Who would believe someone could be ressurrected today? A parting of a sea so that people could walk straight through it? Without modern technology it doesnt seem likely. A FINAL prophet comes out of nowhere and preaches the word of a divine being? If someone tried that today we'd stick them in an insane assylum.

We see these faults and inconsistencies, and yet we still BELIEVE. That is the important thing, to have FAITH. So why do we feel the need to mock another person's belief, when it is clear that we are just as dumb-sounding to them? No one is right or wrong here, and the only way to survive together is to accept that. To accept that there will be people of different beliefs and ideals. I hope everyone thinks about that before bashing on anything anymore.




mir·a·cle ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mr-kl)
n.
An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God: “Miracles are spontaneous, they cannot be summoned, but come of themselves” (Katherine Anne Porter).
One that excites admiring awe. See Synonyms at wonder.
A miracle play.


an event in the external world brought about by the immediate agency or the
simple volition of God, operating without the use of means capable of being
discerned by the senses, and designed to authenticate the divine commission of
a religious teacher and the truth of his message (John 2:18; Matt. 12:38). It
is an occurrence at once above nature and above man. It shows the intervention
of a power that is not limited by the laws either of matter or of mind, a power
interrupting the fixed laws which govern their movements, a supernatural power.
"The suspension or violation of the laws of nature involved in miracles is
nothing more than is constantly taking place around us. One force counteracts
another: vital force keeps the chemical laws of matter in abeyance; and
muscular force can control the action of physical force. When a man raises a
weight from the ground, the law of gravity is neither suspended nor violated,
but counteracted by a stronger force. The same is true as to the walking of
Christ on the water and the swimming of iron at the command of the prophet. The
simple and grand truth that the universe is not under the exclusive control of
physical forces, but that everywhere and always there is above, separate from
and superior to all else, an infinite personal will, not superseding, but
directing and controlling all physical causes, acting with or without them."
God ordinarily effects his purpose through the agency of second causes; but he
has the power also of effecting his purpose immediately and without the
intervention of second causes, i.e., of invading the fixed order, and thus of
working miracles. Thus we affirm the possibility of miracles, the possibility
of a higher hand intervening to control or reverse nature's ordinary movements.
In the New Testament these four Greek words are principally used to designate
miracles: (1.) Semeion, a "sign", i.e., an evidence of a divine commission; an
attestation of a divine message (Matt. 12:38, 39; 16:1, 4; Mark 8:11; Luke
11:16; 23:8; John 2:11, 18, 23; Acts 6:8, etc.); a token of the presence and
working of God; the seal of a higher power.

Religion, ist opium furs volk!

all religion regardless of name or aim is a brain washing organisation.



When trolling ceases to be, it is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

Religion, ist opium furs volk!

all religion regardless of name or aim is a brain washing organisation.
While I wont go so far as to call it brain washing it does seem organized to control people

I do not believe in scientology, and I think its a pretty messed up idea, but that does not give me any right to bash it. .
What happened to freedom of speech suddenly?

While I wont go so far as to call it brain washing it does seem organized to control people Although generalising that all religions are brainwashing is somewhat foolish, considering they often say nothing about obeying those in charge except for "carry on pretty much as you've been doing" (render unto Caesar etc.).

What happened to freedom of speech suddenly?


He excercizing something called "Good taste" and "Civility", you know, those things where you don't attack something you don't fully understand.

What happened to freedom of speech suddenly?

The Scientologists are slowly doing away with that little problem. :D

Although that's a pretty stupid statement to make about all religion, considering they often say nothing about obeying those in charge except for "carry on pretty much as you've been doing" (render unto Caesar etc.).


We Christians aren't ones to support revolution, it is our lot in life to merely endure the oppression of others and look forward to a better life in heaven. So, I suppose you could say we do favor order :D

I would say that scientology and the Raelian movement tie for worst.
Although mormonism isn't so great either... http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/losttotheonlylifetheyknew;_ylt=AhbVw41j_oVSMgVsFva_75as0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2bm5xNHVjBHNlYwNtcA--

If you read that article you would know that isn't the mormon church :P

If you read that article you would know that isn't the mormon church :P

thank you, finally some one else who speaks sense :)

We Christians aren't ones to support revolution, it is our lot in life to merely endure the oppression of others and look forward to a better life in heaven. So, I suppose you could say we do favor order :D Agreed, but hardly "brainwashing". Control is a good thing… control is needed for order… yes I am a social cynic…

Brainwashing? Dear heavens, no! True faith comes from making up one's own mind.

We Christians aren't ones to support revolution, it is our lot in life to merely endure the oppression of others and look forward to a better life in heaven. So, I suppose you could say we do favor order :D

Ever hear of liberation theology?

Ever hear of liberation theology?


Can't say that I have, care to enlighten me?

It's not what religion "is worse";
It's how you practice it.
Killing, hating, etc. in the name of a religion....eh, not so cool.
Loving and accepting in the name of a religion...cool.

Can't say that I have, care to enlighten me?

It would take up too much space to explain so if you're really interested look up Arch Bishop Romero, Padre Giraldo or Padre Colmillo Torres in your web browser. You should get some good hits.

Brainwashing? Dear heavens, no! True faith comes from making up one's own mind.
Which is one of the reasons (besides my past) that I could not put my faith in allowing other humans (the church) to tell me what to believe

Ever hear of liberation theology? That was... suppressed.

That was... suppressed.

Give the man a rim shot!

I dont mind religions. BUT there is a problem. Theyre all so snotty; almost every major religion says that they are the only way, the truth, or other bulshit like that. WHAT THE HELL IS SO WRONG WITH INTEGRATIONAL POLYTHEISM? Why can we just coexist (http://www.atheists-online.com/zm.asp?shop=9100)?

Islam, and any other religion that condones the killing of non-believers

Let me be clear, I have NOTHING against peaceful Muslims, it's just that some got this crazy idea that they can kill a bunch of innocent people and be rewarded for it.

Why do all these crazy cults start up in America?

Our first Amendment guarentees a right to practic your religion as long as it doesn't hurt others (take that Aztecs!), which means you can start up all sorts of crazy bullcrap religions and get away with it. In the rest of the world, if some guy came up to you and said "God just talked to me through a hat, so worship Him and give me 10% of your income", the government would probably kick his ass. Of course, average Americans still came down hard on the Mormons and alot of other cults, but technically it was illegal to do so.

As to what I personally think in the worst religion, its a toss up between ultra-crazy Mormonism (the ones who believe in polygamy) and Islam. Their both composed of retarted primitives looking to score as much poontang as possible, but while the Mormons beat up their own children the Islamics try and blow us up. However, the Mormon's don't go off in their holy book about how one should kill Jews, Christians, and everyone else. Islam does have the 72 virgins thing going for it (unlimited my ass, most guys will go through that in a week).

<snip>Islam does have the 72 virgins thing going for it (unlimited my ass, most guys will go through that in a week).
The consensus formed was that their viginity is restored as soon as you finish with them.

Their always seems to be someone on here bashing anothers religeon whether they be Christian (Catholic),Anglican,Baptist,Witch,Jew,Muslim or Jedi

But surely we can agree on one thing we all must have a communal distrust of the Scientologists surely?
Equally worse than those pesky Mormons and JW's

My Boss when in Germany back in the day went to a couple of their meetings..
The reason he did this was because it was cold and they offered him a cup of Coco and a bit of warnth until the Snow stopped.

They are like Mind Warpers man scam artists too and now theyve got Katie Holmes and Beck you know he is a Scientologist!
His bass player too.

Can they be stopped should we stop them?What the hell is a scientologist, the word is SCIENTIST.

The consensus formed was that their viginity is restored as soon as you finish with them.

Really? Awesome. I'm going to go convert and then blow up a heathen disco now.

ok, I really wish people would stop spreading these stupid rumours. I am a Mormon. and NO we do NOT believe only white men will be in heaven, who ever said that is either demented or very very confused.

As for the article on the polygamists. Mormons don't practice polygamy! Any polygamists who claim to be Mormons have been excommunicated from the church!

Mormons are not bad. In fact they are some of the most non-violent, clean living people in the world. The ones that give us bad names are the ones who have dissented from the church and are doing their own thing.

As for the whole Pope thing. Peter was not a Pope he was an apostle. When he died John was still alive. Yet Catholics claim that the bishop in rome (Clement I think) took the authority from Peter when he died. Which is ridiculous because some of the Apostles were still alive!

What is higher? bishop or apostle? apostleI've heard the bit about only white men getting into heaven from several people, including my mother, who was a LDS member. This was back in the 60's, so perhaps they've dropped that part.
As for the polygamists, I believe the article makes it clear that it's the FLDS, not the more mainstream LDS church, that still practices polygamy.

Our first Amendment guarentees a right to practic your religion as long as it doesn't hurt others (take that Aztecs!), which means you can start up all sorts of crazy bullcrap religions and get away with it. In the rest of the world, if some guy came up to you and said "God just talked to me through a hat, so worship Him and give me 10% of your income", the government would probably kick his ass. Of course, average Americans still came down hard on the Mormons and alot of other cults, but technically it was illegal to do so.
Yea they even let indians do hard core narcotics for religios ceremonies (or something like that).

Incorrect the first pope was constantine who was born in 306 AD (roughly 250 years after Jesus Died)

I watched a documentary... and I'm thinking of the Medici Pope. I think it was Alexander.

What the hell is a scientologist, the word is SCIENTIST.
A believer of Scientology. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology)

In my opinion Raëlism is pretty bad.

I've heard the bit about only white men getting into heaven from several people, including my mother, who was a LDS member. This was back in the 60's, so perhaps they've dropped that part.
As for the polygamists, I believe the article makes it clear that it's the FLDS, not the more mainstream LDS church, that still practices polygamy.

I gather they have. The only two additions to the Scripture since it was originally completed, so I'm told, were the banning of polygamy and what amounts to a statement of racial equality. I couldn't say what the actual wording is, though.

And yes, the article is about a fundamentalist split-off group. Some people seem to have missed that, though.

Yea they even let indians do hard core narcotics for religios ceremonies (or something like that).

Would those Indians be Hindu or Muslim?

I dont mind religions. BUT there is a problem. Theyre all so snotty; almost every major religion says that they are the only way, the truth, or other bulshit like that. WHAT THE HELL IS SO WRONG WITH INTEGRATIONAL POLYTHEISM? Why can we just coexist (http://www.atheists-online.com/zm.asp?shop=9100)?


Well I had no idea what you were talking about so I googled it, and found

'To be an Integrational Polytheist, you have to agree that all religious and spiritual beliefs are in some way true (this requires a fairly open idea of what "truth" is), and you must also believe actively in people's right to say, think and do whatever they want, so long as it harms no other.'

Actually, to an extent, some religions already believe in this. All religions have some but not all the truth. 3 is closer to the answer 4 than 7938 but is still not ALL right. And for the last bit aren't they part of your rights?

However, what I don't get is when people say that anyway is a way to heaven, that just doesn't work. Christianity can't be true and have other religions be true at the same time. And as far as I know, you need all the religions to be true for that theory to work. I'm sure there are other conflicts as well, but I don't know about them.

Would those Indians be Hindu or Muslim?

I think he's talking about Native American Indians (foreigns would call them "those guys who sell cheap cigarettes") who use peyote (natural LSD, essentially) as a way to get in touch with the spirit world, or something. Frankly I don't really have a problem with them as long as they go do it out of the desert; I don't want Chief Yee-ha getting in touch with his spirits while on the freeway, that's all.

'To be an Integrational Polytheist, you have to agree that all religious and spiritual beliefs are in some way true (this requires a fairly open idea of what "truth" is), and you must also believe actively in people's right to say, think and do whatever they want, so long as it harms no other.'
Only if you don't take them literally. Non-literally, they are all saying the same basic things.

I think he's talking about Native American Indians (foreigns would call them "those guys who sell cheap cigarettes") who use peyote (natural LSD, essentially) as a way to get in touch with the spirit world, or something. Frankly I don't really have a problem with them as long as they go do it out of the desert; I don't want Chief Yee-ha getting in touch with his spirits while on the freeway, that's all.

I guess what you mean are Native Americans. And most of the drugs they use such as peyote, coca and marijuana, were not harmfull to society until Europeans started experimenting with them.

I guess what you mean are Native Americans. And most of the drugs they use such as peyote, coca and marijuana, were not harmfull to society until Europeans started experimenting with them.

You cannot look at the effects of peyote and say its not harmful in certain settings. If you took some of that stuff up your nose and then drove around town, you'd eventually wrap yourself around a pole. The Indians have the right idea, they almost always do it in some out of the way place like the desert or Lake Titicaca.

Their both composed of retarted primitives looking to score as much poontang as possible, but while the Mormons beat up their own children the Islamics try and blow us up.Skeelzania: Official Warning - Trolling.

Actually, the entire topic may need a review. iLock pending review.

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