How many of us would be considered criminals?
Tactical Grace
13-06-2005, 23:56
BBC: Children studied for criminality
The government has defended plans to monitor children as young as three for potential criminal behaviour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4087294.stm
WTF? How many of us, on the basis of what we were like at that age, would have ended up considered a potential threat to society?
Gataway_Driver
13-06-2005, 23:57
I would mentally but hey I'm fine, *looking eagerly at carving knife*
Dobbsworld
13-06-2005, 23:58
I wouldn't have.
Lord-General Drache
14-06-2005, 00:00
BBC: Children studied for criminality
The government has defended plans to monitor children as young as three for potential criminal behaviour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4087294.stm
WTF? How many of us, on the basis of what we were like at that age, would have ended up considered a potential threat to society?
I'm in America, so this doesn't apply to me...yet, though I'm sure Homeland "Security" will find this a wonderful idea and race to implement it. If you're going to monitor all people from 3 and up I suppose it'll be an economic boon. Afterall, more people must watch the monitors, there's the data techs, creation of prisons, etc. A silver lining to everything, eh?
Society makes me very, very sad inside.
Just as well they put that in their manifesto then isnt it, along with the road charging scheme, so that people could vote on it.
oohhh....
Brave new world!
Thats where we all are going...
Swimmingpool
14-06-2005, 00:07
What with this, the hate speech laws, the wars, Labour is really turning into the new Stalin Party, aren't they? ;)
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Fergi the Great
14-06-2005, 00:09
I hope they install those cameras like in 1984...
What with this, the hate speech laws, the wars, Labour is really turning into the new Stalin Party, aren't they? ;)
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dont forget the ID Cards and tracking all cars
so...
hate speech laws, going to war, ID cards, monitoring kids who might be criminals, tracking cars....
Marmite Toast
14-06-2005, 00:26
Voting Labour should be considered criminal.
Gataway_Driver
14-06-2005, 00:30
dont forget the ID Cards and tracking all cars
so...
hate speech laws, going to war, ID cards, monitoring kids who might be criminals, tracking cars....
4 of those I agree are stupid
4 of those I agree are stupid
If you're excluding the hate speech laws then I agree with you
Alien Born
14-06-2005, 00:49
Did anyone actually read the report?
What they are talking about is asking teachers to act against bad behaviour. Hardly identifying criminals. However the politician made a stupid blunder and referred to the supposed link between violent criminal behaviour and misbehaviour as a child which led to this wonderful scandalous headline. :headbang:
Lascivious Optimus
14-06-2005, 00:59
DoublePlusBad
Marmite Toast
14-06-2005, 01:06
I've decided to give Labour a special place in my signature.
Tactical Grace
14-06-2005, 01:27
Did anyone actually read the report?
I read it. I agree with you, New Labour is mishandling criminal justice terribly.
Wouldn't it make more sense to do a study first? Observe teh troublesome kids as they grow up and see if they actually turn to criminal behaviour?
I mean, really, i get the feeling that taking them away from their parents and putting them into foster homes with other kids who aren't "under control" would increase the risk that they would later on engage in criminal behaviour than if they were left with their parents in a loving environment.
Turkishsquirrel
14-06-2005, 01:53
Do they actually think children at 3 have even developed the motor skills and mental capabilities to be criminals? This is psychotic.
Do they actually think children at 3 have even developed the motor skills and mental capabilities to be criminals? This is psychotic.
It's more stupid than psychotic.
The Eagle of Darkness
14-06-2005, 02:02
Having read the report, it seems like a simple backwards extension of the current special-needs/difficult-behaviour system:
"What you can begin to identify is children who are having difficulties at an early age and on the basis of that concern, make sure that parents and the child have the assistance to avoid those problems becoming any deeper."
Compare this to the system in primary school (ages 5+) whereby children with learning difficulties and/or behavioural problems (the latter usually being labled as the all-encompassing ADHD, despite the fact that it could have any number of causes) are given special treatment, designed to help them either keep up with their classmates, or to calm down enough to be able to work in the classroom. The system also involves consultation with parents - many of whom are actually the cause of this - to try and fix it on all levels.
(If you're wondering how I know, my mother is a Special Educational Needs Co-Ordinator at a primary school. She keeps coming home with stories of obstinate parents who are either total pushovers or raving psychopaths)
But yes. It just seems to be an extension of that, and a nice sensationalist headline from the BBC.
The Downmarching Void
14-06-2005, 02:13
Well, I'm a Canadian, not a Brit, but I was a criminal at one point. Eight months in a jail so bad that each day counts as two for time served scared me straight pretty good. But prison is completely inadequate in terms of crime prevention. I don't think spying on kids age 3 & up would change anything except alienating potential criminals even earrlier in their lives than usual.
What are they going to do with these potential criminals? Send them to some kind of Juvie proto-deliquents? Its a pretty absurd notion in any case.