NationStates Jolt Archive

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Ahhhh not another one. What the hell is with the 'women' of Tom Cruise?
There must be something very very attractive about him that we aren't seeing!!

Yeah. It's weird. It's not like it's the money, either.

It's not like it's the money, either.
I'm telling you, the Scientologists have got orbital mind-ray satellites! That's the only logical way this could happen!

I can't wait until Scientologists and Kabbalists collide. The nuclear chain reaction in Hollywood is going to be a beautiful sight.

:D

Or it could be that the lives of Hollywood people are so empty of meaning, so unreal, that they turn to quack religions for comfort.

I'm telling you, the Scientologists have got orbital mind-ray satellites! That's the only logical way this could happen!

REALLY?? We're all doomed then! Our fate will now be to suffer form the bad acting that is tom cruise(Ireally cant stand him..no pun intended!)

I can't wait until Scientologists and Kabbalists collide. The nuclear chain reaction in Hollywood is going to be a beautiful sight.

:D
Fun!


Seriously, I think Tom Cruise is extremely overrated.

I can't wait until Scientologists and Kabbalists collide. The nuclear chain reaction in Hollywood is going to be a beautiful sight.
JIHAD!!! :mp5:

hmm, maybe a security wall would keep the two at bay...

Katie Holmes embracing Scientology.

*Sigh* Moron.

hmm, maybe a security wall would keep the two at bay...

heehee, A novel idea!

REALLY?? We're all doomed then! Our fate will now be to suffer form the bad acting that is tom cruise(Ireally cant stand him..no pun intended!)

The annoying thing is I can't think of a bad movie he's been in. He might be a bit crazy with scientology but he gives of the impression of being a really nice person so I don't have a problem with him

The annoying thing is I can't think of a bad movie he's been in. He might be a bit crazy with scientology but he gives of the impression of being a really nice person so I don't have a problem with him

Its not because of his religion that I dislike him, I've just never ever taken to him. No particular reason.

I think Tom Cruise is one of the most OVERRATED actors in Hollywood...next to Keanu Reeves of course(although, calling Keanu an actor is reeeeallt stretching the definition)

I think Tom Cruise is one of the most OVERRATED actors in Hollywood...next to Keanu Reeves of course(although, calling Keanu an actor is reeeeallt stretching the definition)

Can someone give me a bad movie he's been in. It's annoying me now

Can someone give me a bad movie he's been in. It's annoying me now
Eyes Wide Shut.

Such a pity Kubrick's career had to end that way. :(

Eyes Wide Shut.

Such a pity Kubrick's career had to end that way. :(

I didn't mind that film but hey

Can someone give me a bad movie he's been in. It's annoying me now

Yes, the first one he starred in with Nicole Kiddman. That rip off Irish one??

Can someone give me a bad movie he's been in. It's annoying me now
The Last Samurai.

The Last Samurai.

again i didn't mind that film, well it was better then minority report

Can someone give me a bad movie he's been in. It's annoying me now
eyes wide shut.... a utterly horrible movie that only got press because it was kubricks last.

far and away, not the worst movie but it bombed big time at the box office.

plus about 25 others that were all good to excellent. (ok cocktail was formulaic but cruise still owned the screen)

how very tolerant :rolleyes:

eyes wide shut.... a utterly horrible movie that only got press because it was kubricks last.

far and away, not the worst movie but it bombed big time at the box office.

plus about 25 others that were all good to excellent. (ok cocktail was formulaic but cruise still owned the screen)

far and away, that was it. On accent alone, proved how awful he is.

how very tolerant :rolleyes:
Why doesn't Jolt have a laughing smiley?

I thought the worst one he was in was Minority Report, still an ok movie. Best had to be Cocktail and Top Gun

I hold my opinion that he is overrated because he's everywhere and people go on and on about him being such a good actor, while every movie he's been in (that I have seen) has been mediocre to slightly ok at best, and bad at worst...that's all my opinion of course...

I hold my opinion that he is overrated because he's everywhere and people go on and on about him being such a good actor, while every movie he's been in (that I have seen) has been mediocre to slightly ok at best, and bad at worst...that's all my opinion of course...

Hear, hear.

tom cruise is an excellent actor. its his private life that is more than a little bit creepy

tom cruise is an excellent actor. its his private life that is more than a little bit creepy

agreed Days of thunder was excellent

looney bin

Shhhhhh!!! They'll hear you!!!

I find it so sad that she's changing her religion for him. You shouldn't have to change yourself for somebody.

I find it so sad that she's changing her religion for him. You shouldn't have to change yourself for somebody.

Scientology is a rich man's religion. It's no different than Christians or Muslims trying to recruit donors.

The Last Samurai.

Meh! Ken Watanabi made that film. TC on his own? BIG MEH!

I find it so sad that she's changing her religion for him. You shouldn't have to change yourself for somebody.

If she loves him that much maybe she chose to make the change.

I don't know if I could change to someone else's religion for love but if someone did it for me then I couldn't really realise what they have done for me and the sacrifice that they have made and in a way I'd always be in awe of them the fact they could do that for someone.

Meh! Ken Watanabi made that film. TC on his own? BIG MEH!
Agreed Ken Watanabi RULES

Agreed Ken Watanabi RULES

Isn't he Ra'as Al-Ghul in Batman Begins? So does he come close to David Warner?

Meh! Ken Watanabi made that film. TC on his own? BIG MEH!
if it takes tom cruise to get ken watanabi on my cinema screen, then god (or lron hubbard) bless tom cruise!

Scientology is a VERY persuasive "religion" and for good reasons, it “works.” How many of you actually know anything about it?

Scientology is a VERY persuasive "religion" and for good reasons, it “works.” How many of you actually know anything about it?
It was started by someone who said, (paraphrasing here) "The real money is to be made in religion."

It's also full of pseudo-mystical bullshit, and to call it a religion is an insult to all the other religions, even the ones that practiced human sacrifice.

Scientology is a VERY persuasive "religion" and for good reasons, it “works.” How many of you actually know anything about it?
I would love to know more about it. I might just warn you I'm Catholic BUT that does not mean I'm going to rubbish any other religion, I'm just not going to suddenly convert to theirs

Scientology is a VERY persuasive "religion" and for good reasons, it “works.” How many of you actually know anything about it?


Well if you listen to Tom, Scientology has technology that cures dyslexia. I am one myself. Also, post pardom depression is cured by taking vitamins.

First off, read up on the Placebo effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_effect) and Psychosomatic illness. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosomatic_illness)

The general idea is that a large amount of our problems are purely psychological (think obsessive compulsive disorder, depression, drug dependence, etc, etc) and as such can be cured or resolved mentally. Scientology essentially goes to rich people with problems and promises them a "cure" to their problems. As they go through the "levels" of Scientology you are gradually broken into the "pseudo-mystical bullshit" until they genuinely, deeply, believe it. Through hypnosis and psychological manipulations, they advance until their mind is altered to such a degree as to overcome whatever the problem is. The effect is VERY similar to what the occult (think Aleister Crowley, who's work Hubbard was involved in), Voodoo, Shamanism, etc, etc in that it uses the power of suggestion to the degree that your mind makes the effect real.

From what I understand, few things are as effective as Scientology for getting people off drugs cold turkey. I would imagine that sort of success would certainly make a person grateful for it.

It is "pseudo-mystical bullshit" by all means, however it DOES work just so long as you believe it.

I would love to know more about it. I might just warn you I'm Catholic BUT that does not mean I'm going to rubbish any other religion, I'm just not going to suddenly convert to theirs

I certainly wouldn't expect you to, I haven't. The ability to entertain an idea or belief without blindly accepting or discarding it is a rather rare but extremely valuable ability.

Scientology is a VERY persuasive "religion" and for good reasons, it “works.” How many of you actually know anything about it?
A friend of mine interviewd the head of the scientology church in Toronto and left with the impression that it is a cult.

A friend of mine interviewd the head of the scientology church in Toronto and left with the impression that it is a cult.

It is a cult, that doesn't mean that it doesn't work.

Most formal religions also don't make it a habit (in modern times at least) to try and destroy the lives of their outspoken and prominent critics or the lives of their apostates.

I certainly wouldn't expect you to, I haven't. The ability to entertain an idea or belief without blindly accepting or discarding it is a rather rare but extremely valuable ability.

Hey I have heard that line before.

You are one of them aren't you?

Hey I have heard that line before.

You are one of them aren't you?

One of whom? The Scientologists or the Catholics? :D

I am neither, either way. Generic non-denomination Christian here.

Generic non-denomination Christian here.

Ahh thanks for the clarification.

Hmmm Non-Denomination?

Many people claim that and yet go to a non-denomination church. Doesn't that make it a denomination?

Actually a serious question......

Can someone explain me what the hell is SCIENTOLOGY?

Ahh thanks for the clarification.

Hmmm Non-Denomination?

Many people claim that and yet go to a non-denomination church. Doesn't that make it a denomination?

Actually a serious question......

I don't go to any church, one of the reasons I'm not a Catholic is that I don't believe a priest should stand between you and God. I try to find my own way.

Can someone explain me what the hell is SCIENTOLOGY?

Clicky clicky clicky to the Wiki..... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology)

Clicky clicky clicky to the Wiki..... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology)

thanks bro

hmmm. i've never actually read about this b4. Its interesting (and a bit scary). but i also think that Katie i doing a very lovely thing for Tom by becoming a Scientologist. Now THATS love!

I don't see the problem with Scientology at all, it's just another religion. Religion completely sucks, people take it to ridiculous extremes (the name of which will remain nameless) to the extent of killing each other over a hokey myth that has never been substantiated and probably never will. it makes me laugh sometimes. what is interesting about scientology is that it seems to be the most modern and up-to-date one, consequently in touch with modernist views of freedom, respect and a desire for non existent crime.

just a thought... :headbang:

hmmm. i've never actually read about this b4. Its interesting (and a bit scary). but i also think that Katie i doing a very lovely thing for Tom by becoming a Scientologist. Now THATS love!

Everyone assumes that she's doing it for Tom... what if she's doing it simply because she has come to truly believe in the precepts of Scientology?

Hard to believe?

Most formal religions also don't make it a habit (in modern times at least) to try and destroy the lives of their outspoken and prominent critics or the lives of their apostates.

Or suing the pants off of random people on the internet who make comments about them.

Like I said, we should all be careful if we don't want a quick cease and desist order and an impending lawsuit against Max Barry and any poster whose information they can obtain.

I don't see the problem with Scientology at all, it's just another religion. Religion completely sucks, people take it to ridiculous extremes (the name of which will remain nameless) to the extent of killing each other over a hokey myth that has never been substantiated and probably never will. it makes me laugh sometimes. what is interesting about scientology is that it seems to be the most modern and up-to-date one, consequently in touch with modernist views of freedom, respect and a desire for non existent crime.

just a thought... :headbang:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/5.htm

http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/5.htm
"Leukaemia is evidently psychosomatic in origin", LOL. Weirdo cult.

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“When somebody enrols, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe - never permit an ‘open-minded’ approach... If they enrolled, they’re aboard, and if they’re aboard they’re here on the same terms as the rest of us - win or die in the attempt. Never let them be half minded about being Scientologists... When Mrs. Pattycake comes to us to be taught, turn that wandering doubt in her eye into a fixed, dedicated glare… The proper instruction attitude is, ‘We'd rather have you dead than incapable.’”

- L. Ron Hubbard, KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING, 7 February 1965, reissued 27 August 1980

Goodbye Katie Holmes. You were OK in Dawson's Creek. Until Series 3. :(

"Leukaemia is evidently psychosomatic in origin", LOL.

Yes, but Herpes is from Tom Cruise...

http://img210.echo.cx/img210/8267/4udglh8cs.jpg

Yes, but Herpes is from Tom Cruise...
Ewww. Thanks for that, I was just going to eat, now I won't bother. :mad:

Ewww. Thanks for that, I was just going to eat, now I won't bother. :mad:

Take a closer look. I'm sure it's herpes...
http://img210.echo.cx/img210/1520/4udgme2rh.jpg