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The idiot responsible for the Freedom Fries lunacy seems to have changed his mind in recent months:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4086380.stm

What do you think? A bit late to have a change of heart, or is he actually ahead of the curve compared to his colleagues?

And does anyone know whether he is still a racist, or does he now regret the Freedom Fries/Toast stuff too? A source for his thoughts on that would be appreciated.

EDIT: What I n00b, I cross-posted. Someone move this, please. :(

Damn it! An American politician learning from his mistakes? Now I have to revise the damned equations.

BUMP because last night I was a nub and posted in Mod forum by mistake. :rolleyes:

Poll! Poll!

I'm still amazed of the whole French/Freedom discussion... never got it, never will.
If they all felt like that, I wonder why they didn't send that big old French Lady Liberté back across the ocean...

Then again, the French are a crazy people, and so are the Americans - nothing should amaze me anymore!

It was no different from WWI, when sauerkraut was called 'liberty cabbage,' German measles was called 'liberty measles,' hamburger was called 'liberty steak,' etc.

I would think that they would stay german measles. I mean, the other things arent BAD... But wouldnt propoganda require you to associate loathesome diseases with the people you disagree with? And only dissociate those things which are not bad?

The next bomb should be dropped on Paris.

The next bomb should be dropped on Paris.
A nuke? Great, killing tens of thousands of American tourists. :rolleyes:

Did he come to his senses? Or just look at his polling numbers?


That whole "fuck the french" thing was high comedy at the time, especially the way the news pandered to the small-minded fringe demonstrations.


I can still remember CNN had a journalist or member of the French Toursim board or something on to comment and showed him a film clip of a group of morons who were demonstrating by pouring bottles of French wine down a sewer grate. They were, I ehink, expecting some hostility or defensiveness on the part of the Frenchman, but he just laughed and commented along the lines of: "What? They are buying our wine just to throw it away.... and you want me to be upset about it? Besides .. (he looked more closely at the moniter)... there is nothing to get upset about. It's not like it's even a very good bottle of wine that they are wasting anyway!"


You could tell that the CNN buttheads were pissed as they were hoping for some fireworks, but by the end of the segment the Frenchman had made the protesters look like complete asshats.


It was fucking priceless.....

by the end of the segment the Frenchman had made the protesters look like complete asshats.

And that's what it's all about.

I have never heard anybody use the phrase 'Freedom Fries' outside of a joke. A few people call them 'Belgian Fries', because they are. But thats not the point :P
Errr, I dont think disliking the French is qualified as 'racism', since your disliking a country, not a particular race.

Errr, I dont think disliking the French is qualified as 'racism', since your disliking a country, not a particular race.
True, although apparently there is a well-known exception to the rule. :rolleyes:

Sadly, there is not yet a word for anti-nation feelings. I guess 21st century politics being what they are, someone had better come up with one.

True, although apparently there is a well-known exception to the rule. :rolleyes:

Sadly, there is not yet a word for anti-nation feelings. I guess 21st century politics being what they are, someone had better come up with one.
Blah, but he doesnt count.

Perhaps we should call it...nationalism!
*is original*

I have never heard anybody use the phrase 'Freedom Fries' outside of a joke. A few people call them 'Belgian Fries', because they are. But thats not the point :P
Errr, I dont think disliking the French is qualified as 'racism', since your disliking a country, not a particular race.
Well technically it CAN be racism (but it leave the wrong impression calling it that but yeah)

Nationalism is aggradisement of one's own country, not hatred of another.

I know, I was being stupid on purpose :P
I wonder if theres word for that :)

It was no different from WWI, when sauerkraut was called 'liberty cabbage,' German measles was called 'liberty measles,' hamburger was called 'liberty steak,' etc.

I think there was a huge difference! I don't recall France & America being at war with each other.

You forgot the "I don't give a shit" option.

I didn't care when they were changed to "freedom fries" and I still don't care that they're changed back to "french fries". I thought the idea was f'n stupid and juvenile in the first place.

You forgot the "I don't give a shit" option.

I didn't care when they were changed to "freedom fries" and I still don't care that they're changed back to "french fries". I thought the idea was f'n stupid and juvenile in the first place.
Yeah that’s why I went for the “will this thing never end” quote … but agree here it was kind of a juvenile thing to do in the first place

Freedom Fries: The day the mask slipped and politicans revaled themselves for the idiots that they are.

Sadly, there is not yet a word for anti-nation feelings. I guess 21st century politics being what they are, someone had better come up with one.

Umm, "jingoism"?

French fries, freedom fries, why don't you people call 'em chips, like all civilised countries? :D

French fries, freedom fries, why don't you people call 'em chips, like all civilised countries? :D

No, no, civilised countries call them "pommes frites".

No, no, civilised countries call them "pommes frites".

True, but I would imagine this to cause some pronounciation problems... :D

I disagree with this congressman, but it's about time! The whole anti-French vendetta was destructive and evil.

Seriously, I don't think that there should be a withdrawal from Iraq right now. I think the troops should stay there for a good five to ten years.

The next bomb should be dropped on Paris.
I think I remember you saying in another thread that gays should be put in concentration camps.

French fries, freedom fries, why don't you people call 'em chips, like all civilised countries? :D
On this we should surely all agree!

Sadly, there is not yet a word for anti-nation feelings. I guess 21st century politics being what they are, someone had better come up with one.
It's called xenophobia.

If they all felt like that, I wonder why they didn't send that big old French Lady Liberté back across the ocean... Now that's just cheap! The Statue of Liberty is 'paid' for. Full. The French only gave USA a statue made of copper plating. The people from USA, living in Paris, gave the Parisians (in 1889) one which is made of BRONZE. Much more valuable a metal. It's near Pont de Grenelle in Paris, and it towers over Paris in all her height of 11.5 meters. So, can we stop this 'we gave you something...' stuff now, please?

Now that's just cheap! The Statue of Liberty is 'paid' for. Full. The French only gave USA a statue made of copper plating. The people from USA, living in Paris, gave the Parisians (in 1889) one which is made of BRONZE. Much more valuable a metal. It's near Pont de Grenelle in Paris, and it towers over Paris in all her height of 11.5 meters. So, can we stop this 'we gave you something...' stuff now, please?


You actually value Art by the value of its material???

:eek:

You actually value Art by the value of its material???

:eek:
So, no more random sillyness for you..?

I thought that "towering over" part would have convinced people to think I'm 'serious'.

I say let them call them Freedom Fries. French people dont eat that greasy crap anyway.

Its an insult to their great cuisine to even assosiate that American crap with them.

Considering there is significant evidence Freedom Fries were NOT invented in France, it makes no sense to call them "French Fries".

And what's with the name calling in this thread?!

I say let them call them Freedom Fries. French people dont eat that greasy crap anyway.

Its an insult to their great cuisine to even assosiate that American crap with them.


Great cuisine? More like over-rated trash. Mini portions of high-priced fancy swill.
The entire cuisine is based on the art of masking spoiled food.

I'm more than happy with American cuisine any day. And I might eat one hamburger a month, so lets not start that crap.

The're not called french fries because they have anything to do with France. They're called that because they are frenched(a way of slicing) potatoes that are then fried.


french (tr.v.) - To cut into thin strips before cooking

Sadly, there is not yet a word for anti-nation feelings.
I believe there is: xenophobia.

I believe there is: xenophobia.
Not really, because that assumes animosity towards all nations. We're talking about animosity toward single nation

Not really, because that assumes animosity towards all nations. We're talking about animosity toward single nation

We're talking about the United States. It's more like "animosity towards the nation of the moment to disguise xenophobia."

The're not called french fries because they have anything to do with France. They're called that because they are frenched(a way of slicing) potatoes that are then fried.


french (tr.v.) - To cut into thin strips before cooking
damn, someone beat me to it :(

The're not called french fries because they have anything to do with France. They're called that because they are frenched(a way of slicing) potatoes that are then fried.


french (tr.v.) - To cut into thin strips before cooking
Your first sentence is incorrect. Second part is correct.

Why? Where does "french" come from? According to The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, it comes from "French", meaning a French way of doing something.

So, "French Fries" come from "frenched", which comes from "French", which comes from "France".

By way of syllagism, that's logically equivlant to "French Fries come from France".

french ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frnch)
tr.v. frenched, french·ing, french·es
To cut (green beans, for example) into thin strips before cooking.
To trim fat or bone from (a chop, for example).
or French
Slang. To give a French kiss to.
Vulgar Slang. To perform oral sex on.


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[From French.]

It's called xenophobia.
*Slaps forehead*

Blame the two-day sleep deprivation when posting. Honestly couldn't come up with a word. Was all like WTF? :confused: