NationStates Jolt Archive


Best Troll

Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 23:17
Who?
Lacadaemon
09-06-2005, 23:19
Jesussaves.

After that Gen Curtis E LeMay, until his premature deletion.
Neo-Anarchists
09-06-2005, 23:20
Who?
One of them got on there twice, if I'm remembering correctly. I believe a mod said that IRA operatives was the same person as the Commando series.
Buechoria
09-06-2005, 23:20
I gotta say VoteEarly. I wasn't able to witness the jesussaves phenomonon.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 23:23
One of them got on there twice, if I'm remembering correctly. I believe a mod said that IRA operatives was the same person as the Commando series.
Oh, damn didn't know that.
Bodies Without Organs
09-06-2005, 23:24
This is intended as a compliment: Nationalist Valhalla.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 23:24
One of them got on there twice, if I'm remembering correctly. I believe a mod said that IRA operatives was the same person as the Commando series.
Oh, damn didn't know that.

I also forgot an 'other' option.

Please feel free to do a write-in candidate.
The Noble Men
09-06-2005, 23:26
Whatever Melkor says!

Yes! Yes! Yes!

I love you mate!

For the record, I haven't been around long enough to decide on a favorite troll.
Kryozerkia
09-06-2005, 23:26
I'd have to say from the choices, Commando - what a twat! :rolleyes:
Super-power
09-06-2005, 23:28
Myrth :p
But seriously, don't the M0ds lock topics like these?
Chicken pi
09-06-2005, 23:28
One of them got on there twice, if I'm remembering correctly. I believe a mod said that IRA operatives was the same person as the Commando series.

I said that I suspected he was. I didn't see a mod clarify whether or not this was true.


I was about to say that this is flamebait...but then I realised that everyone named on the poll is either fictional or deleted.
Czardas
09-06-2005, 23:28
"Harry Potter is secretly poisoning our children's minds." Or, Jesussaves. :p

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Alien Born
09-06-2005, 23:29
Red Arrow and descendants.
Kryozerkia
09-06-2005, 23:30
Red Arrow and descendants.
TRA wasn't as much as a troll has he was just a pain in the ass.
Alien Born
09-06-2005, 23:30
I was about to say that this is flamebait...but then I realised that everyone named on the poll is either fictional or deleted.

So which of those two categories does Melkor Unchained fall into? :eek:
Alien Born
09-06-2005, 23:32
TRA wasn't as much as a troll has he was just a pain in the ass.

And Commando[n] and IRA --- were not?
Cannot think of a name
09-06-2005, 23:32
Myrth :p
But seriously, don't the M0ds lock topics like these?
My thought was going to be, "Is it possible to troll for trolls?" But he seemed to limit himself to deleted trolls. Maybe thats okay. Don't know...
Czardas
09-06-2005, 23:32
Myrth :p
But seriously, don't the M0ds lock topics like these?They do?

*runs in terror*

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

P.S. Melkor is a product of my imagination.
Lord-General Drache
09-06-2005, 23:34
So which of those two categories does Melkor Unchained fall into? :eek:

Both. He's fictionally deleted. *nods*

I'm sure it's possible to troll for trolls. I'd be surprised if it hasn't been done.
Cannot think of a name
09-06-2005, 23:34
And Commando[n] and IRA --- were not?
TRA was a true believer. Commando and IRA may be, don't really know. My thought was that trolls where people who faked the funk just to piss people off.
Super-power
09-06-2005, 23:36
The TRA series just for this one quote:
Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from the sun thru a crystal to the center of the earth
Chicken pi
09-06-2005, 23:36
So which of those two categories does Melkor Unchained fall into? :eek:

True. I should have worded it differently.

Everyone on the thread who is named as a troll is either fictional or deleted.


EDIT: I'm finding it rather difficult to pick a best troll...at first glance, Commando is the best - he was around the longest and trolled more prolifically than others. However, I just didn't find his trolling as enjoyable as others (such as VoteEarly, Jesussaves or HerPower. Trolling you could really get your teeth into).
Swimmingpool
09-06-2005, 23:37
I nominate the Commando(2-8) series!

VoteEarly was not a troll. How was he a troll? He had extreme views but he was always articulate and almost never flamed. He also posted as Decisive Action at an earlier time.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 23:38
The TRA series just for this one quote:
So Bush is Lex Luther now?
Alien Born
09-06-2005, 23:39
TRA was a true believer. Commando and IRA may be, don't really know. My thought was that trolls where people who faked the funk just to piss people off.

Check the definition:
Trolling: Posts that are made with the aim of angering people. (like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). While Trolls often make these posts strictly in an attempt to provoke negative comment, it is still trolling even if you actually hold those beliefs.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 23:41
Who voted the 'you' option? If you did you think it meant you as referring to me or you as referring to yourself?
Super-power
09-06-2005, 23:43
So Bush is Lex Luther now?
And John Kerry is Superman! :D
The Noble Men
09-06-2005, 23:43
Who voted the 'you' option? If you did you think it meant you as referring to me or you as referring to yourself?

Think of it like smokey the bear;

Only YOU can stop forest fires.
Czardas
09-06-2005, 23:43
True. I should have worded it differently.

Everyone on the thread who is named as a troll is either fictional or deleted.Calling a mod a troll will not make you the most popular player on NS.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

P.S. I'm not a connoisseur of trolls; I always went in more for flaming.
Czardas
09-06-2005, 23:45
Who voted the 'you' option? If you did you think it meant you as referring to me or you as referring to yourself?'You' refers to the thread starter -- i.e. you.

'Me' would refer to me or whoever else voted that option. (I'm not a troll, so I didn't vote that!)

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Bitchkitten
09-06-2005, 23:46
It was a toss up between VoteEarly and Commando, but Commando was funnier.
I'll not give Drunk Commies Deleted the satisfaction of voting JesusSaves, :p though I loved watching he and VoteEarly go at it.
Eutrusca
09-06-2005, 23:46
Who?
MYRTH! Hehehe! :D
CthulhuFhtagn
09-06-2005, 23:50
Jesussaves was the best fake troll. Commando was the best real troll, although Ffc and TT rank up there too.

The most annoying troll was Alansysism, or however the hell that bastard spelled his name.
Lacadaemon
09-06-2005, 23:53
The most annoying troll was Alansysism, or however the hell that bastard spelled his name.

Ha, that guy was funny though for a little kid. The odd thing was he felt compelled to TG me a few times about stuff and he was a lot more likeable in that context. All polite and shit. Go figure.
Cannot think of a name
09-06-2005, 23:54
So Bush is Lex Luther now?
My mom used to tell people that that was what did in Atlantis.

DISCLAIMER: Views held by my mother do not neccisarilly reflect my views or beliefs.
Chicken pi
09-06-2005, 23:54
Jesussaves was the best fake troll. Commando was the best real troll, although Ffc and TT rank up there too.


I guess it depends on your definition of 'the best'. Herpower was the most believable, but Jesussaves was the funniest fake troll.
Cannot think of a name
09-06-2005, 23:57
Check the definition:
ok
OceanDrive
10-06-2005, 00:03
.. but Commando was funnier.i nominate Jonnhy Wadd for "most entertaining" :D
Cannot think of a name
10-06-2005, 00:06
i nominate Jonnhy Wadd for "most entertaining" :D
The quadrepelegic vet ex-porn star private detective? Yeah, that was quality.
Xanaz
10-06-2005, 00:35
Snubis!!!

(for those of you who have been around for a really long time)
Xanaz
10-06-2005, 00:37
The TRA series just for this one quote:

Yeah, but TRA was never a troll. He actually really believed in what he did and said.
Kervoskia
10-06-2005, 00:38
Yeah, but TRA was never a troll. He actually really believed in what he did and said.
By definition he was still a troll.
Xanaz
10-06-2005, 00:41
By definition he was still a troll.

I suppose some may see it that way. To me a troll is someone who goes out of their way to get a reaction from people in a negative way when they don't even believe what they are saying themselves.. like Snubis.
Kibolonia
10-06-2005, 00:41
Check the definition:
There has been a lot of drift in the definition of trolling over the last ten years or so. Classically, a troll can be a beautiful work of art. More recently trolling has come to be combined with flamebaiting, and as a catch-all for any dissenting view that other vocal members of a community might find offensive. But in its natural and true form, a troll truly is a thing of beauty.

A troll is a preferably concise statement espousing some viewpoint, which isn't necessarily incendiary at all, which preferably some highly accurate and precise details, but one *incredibly* (actual meaning, no contemporary use) false element. It's an invitation for people, who don't know any better, to not get the joke, and provide dinner theater for the audiance that knows better. Now some of those people will flame-on. But the troll doesn't demand that response.

It's not just a giant lie. It's a specific kind of giant lie in a specific context. It's a presentation of a claim that everyone should know is false in a context where it's impossible to believe the writter could have thought differently.

"There are no shadows in space." : Troll
"The Holocaust was faked." : Flamebait
"The moon landing was faked." : Indeterminate, maybe troll, maybe flamebait, maybe just nuts. It would depend on the context which is missing.
"Creationists are right. Zeus made us out of clay." : Sarcasm.
"I saw a documentary about the faking of the Mars landing. Who'd believe OJ Simpson as an astronaut anyway." : Troll.

But along came September 1996, and lo and behold everything people didn't like for whatever reason became a troll. Which I find sad.
Cannot think of a name
10-06-2005, 00:51
Snubis!!!

(for those of you who have been around for a really long time)
Quality. Forgot about that cat.
Harlesburg
10-06-2005, 15:33
Jesussaves of course
Everyone Mahatmod is the messiah
Whispering Legs
10-06-2005, 15:36
Myrth
Gataway_Driver
10-06-2005, 15:36
what about Skap and some of his theroies?
Legless Pirates
10-06-2005, 15:39
You Forgot Poland!!!




I mean. You forgot HerPower
Monkeypimp
10-06-2005, 15:51
Snubis.


How young are you people?
Aeruillin
10-06-2005, 15:54
HerPower was pretty cool, but nothing beats a raving mad die-hard fundamentalist, even a fictional one. Jesussaves gets my vote.
Whispering Legs
10-06-2005, 15:56
Aeruillin, I'm surprised you didn't say Whispering Legs.
Czardas
10-06-2005, 16:03
MyrthMyrth isn't a troll. He's a whole lot of other things that I won't put in print for fear of being IP banned, but he isn't a troll.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Whispering Legs
10-06-2005, 16:04
Myrth isn't a troll. He's a whole lot of other things that I won't put in print for fear of being IP banned, but he isn't a troll.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I suggested it because the option was missing from the poll. Myrth is supposed to be an option on every poll.
Czardas
10-06-2005, 16:09
I suggested it because the option was missing from the poll. Myrth is supposed to be an option on every poll.
No, that was just a law introduced by the Myrth-lovers on this forum, much like the COTP. I'm still vehemently against both.


~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Xanaz
10-06-2005, 16:25
Snubis.


How young are you people?

I agree. Snubis was a master at trolling. Because he was believable. I really believed him. I thought he was really a right wing bible thumping freak. The reason he was so good at trolling is because no one ever figured it out. It was him who finally after months and months who finally fessed up that he was a troll. He also never got himself deleted. He was masterful at trolling. Once he told us he was really a troll and gave us links to other sites he trolled we then knew he was telling the truth. So, I think/believe Snubis was by far the best troll NS has ever had. Was he the funniest? I'd say no. But he was the most skilled troll. IMO.
Eutrusca
10-06-2005, 16:38
Who?
I have to recommend a name to add to the list of trolls: "President Shrub" :D