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My quote is from a comedian shown on Comedy Central occasionally. I forget his name. Smart guy.

Read my quote. Public education: good, bad, little of both? Discuss.

PS: You enable quotes in your profile, but for those of you that can't see it, it says, "Seven foot twelve, five people laugh. Yay public schools."

PPS: Do not start a debate on why the U.S. hasn't converted to the metric system, please. Seriously, I'm tired of hearing about it.

Good, and I got it right away with this cruddy public school education of California.

Not everyone from a public school is a moron. I'm from a public school. Okay, bad example. But, still, we're looking at the majority of people, here, not the few that actually learned something from their shitty education.

Not everyone from a public school is a moron. I'm from a public school. Okay, bad example. But, still, we're looking at the majority of people, here, not the few that actually learned something from their shitty education.
Well, I find it the perfect thing for the capitalist world. Considering I plan on being the best of my generation, public schooling just makes it all the more easier on me.

The education is shitty, but at the same time, people who are naturally spongy when it comes to information, or who are naturally really smart, can get by. It's those people who are not in that elite that public schools can let down.

I'd say it's a lack of funding, plus the fact that a teacher isn't paid NEARLY what they are worth. Their salaries should be freaking tripled, nay quadrupled. I've known teachers who quite literally couldn't live on their income alone, and that is just sad. You are definitely not attracting a lot of teachers with crap like that. Without teachers, civilization as we know it collapses in a generation, and yet they make pennies compared to others. Fund public schools better, pay teachers much better, and you'll see some improvement.

Oh, and why hasn't the US converted to the metric system? It makes it soo much easier... I'm just saying...

Well, I find it the perfect thing for the capitalist world. Considering I plan on being the best of my generation, public schooling just makes it all the more easier on me.

All the more easier, huh? Sorry, not happening. ;)

The education is shitty, but at the same time, people who are naturally spongy when it comes to information, or who are naturally really smart, can get by. It's those people who are not in that elite that public schools can let down.
Exactly.

I'd say it's a lack of funding, plus the fact that a teacher isn't paid NEARLY what they are worth. Their salaries should be freaking tripled, nay quadrupled. I've known teachers who quite literally couldn't live on their income alone, and that is just sad. You are definitely not attracting a lot of teachers with crap like that. Without teachers, civilization as we know it collapses in a generation, and yet they make pennies compared to others. Fund public schools better, pay teachers much better, and you'll see some improvement.
Or privatize schooling, set income-based aid, and give tax breaks by quality rating. That way schools would always be striving to be better than each other, kids would get great education, poor people could still go, stupid teachers would not be hired, smart teachers would be bid on, and more smart people would become teachers as a result of it paying better... which does away with the old saying, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

Oh, and why hasn't the US converted to the metric system? It makes it soo much easier... I'm just saying...
"Damn you's! Damn you's all to Hell! Die you super monkey fuck!"

Wait, I don't get the joke. I know seven foot twelve is equal to eight feet, but that can't be the joke.

The education is shitty, but at the same time, people who are naturally spongy when it comes to information, or who are naturally really smart, can get by. It's those people who are not in that elite that public schools can let down.

I'd say it's a lack of funding, plus the fact that a teacher isn't paid NEARLY what they are worth. Their salaries should be freaking tripled, nay quadrupled. I've known teachers who quite literally couldn't live on their income alone, and that is just sad. You are definitely not attracting a lot of teachers with crap like that. Without teachers, civilization as we know it collapses in a generation, and yet they make pennies compared to others. Fund public schools better, pay teachers much better, and you'll see some improvement.

Oh, and why hasn't the US converted to the metric system? It makes it soo much easier... I'm just saying...

And who taught you that?

Wait, I don't get the joke. I know seven foot twelve is equal to eight feet, but that can't be the joke.

Well, it's longer than that, but that's part of the punch line. It's something like this:

"Alright, and now for my impression of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. For those of you that don't know, he was huge. I mean, this guy was like seven foot twelve."
*light chuckling in audience*
"Seven foot twelve, five people laugh. Yay public schools."

And who taught you that?

He probably taught it to himself, or his Dad taught it to him, or one of the few good teachers of this world taught him.

Well, it's longer than that, but that's part of the punch line. It's something like this:

"Alright, and now for my impression of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. For those of you that don't know, he was huge. I mean, this guy was like seven foot twelve."
*light chuckling in audience*
"Seven foot twelve, five people laugh. Yay public schools."

Good. I thought that was it and it was just an unfunny joke.

If I was a teacher, I'd teach that teachers don't make enough money too....


But then again, its the kids and their parents. If they want to learn, they will.

If parents want to use schools as nothing more than day-time day care and kids want to do nothing but impress their friends and be in the 'crowd,' then everyone got what they wanted...

It was a stupid joke, why would anyone laugh? Its the 5 people who are idiots, or at least they have a crappy sense of humor.

Good. I thought that was it and it was just an unfunny joke.

Yeah, well, that's not even the real punch line, it's funnier than that. For his impression, he says, "Alright, and now for my impression of Kareem and I, in the shower after a big game." *Into the mic* "Hey, Kareem, can you hand me the soap?" *Holds mic horizontally next to head, then turns it toward him. Proceeds to slap mic out of his face. "Hey, man, get that out of my face."

I just like the seven foot twelve part, it's more my style.

It was a stupid joke, why would anyone laugh? Its the 5 people who are idiots, or at least they have a crappy sense of humor.

Yeah, I agree; people that laugh at smart comedy are total idiots. :rolleyes:

I'm from public school system, I ain't a retard, it aint the education, it's American pop culture, notice the difference of dumbass levels between the years of 1945(no MTV) and 1999(MTV R00lz 4m3ric4)

Yeah, I agree; people that laugh at smart comedy are total idiots. :rolleyes:
My aunt has been calling herself 'five foot twelve' for years. It's an old ass joke, and as smart humor goes, barely qualifies. More likely it's an easy set up for the comedian to go into his routine about school systems knowing that it's not going to get that many laughs. That much thought into a transition is smart humor, but the joke itself boarders on the comedian asking the audience to take his wife, please.

My aunt has been calling herself 'five foot twelve' for years. It's an old ass joke, and as smart humor goes, barely qualifies. More likely it's an easy set up for the comedian to go into his routine about school systems knowing that it's not going to get that many laughs. That much thought into a transition is smart humor, but the joke itself boarders on the comedian asking the audience to take his wife, please.

Old ass jokes are automatically unfunny to you, eh? The comedian doesn't go into a routine about school systems, but nice try. It's a dick joke involving Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, read back a page. It was used purely as a transition.

Old ass jokes are automatically unfunny to you, eh? The comedian doesn't go into a routine about school systems, but nice try. It's a dick joke involving Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, read back a page. It was used purely as a transition.
Well, whens the last time you laughed when someone told you why the chicken crosssed the road?

And he did use it as a transition, I just got what he transitioned to wrong. Not bad for just guessing.

Fair enough.

Anyway, I mainly posted this thread to start a large-scale argument on types of privatized education versus public education. Argue about that, people, not the degree of "funnitude" that joke may or may not have had. I'll be back at 10:00 when I wake up to make you all feel like idiots. ;) Have a good one, I'm hittin' the sack, it's 1:30.

I'd say it's a lack of funding, plus the fact that a teacher isn't paid NEARLY what they are worth. Their salaries should be freaking tripled, nay quadrupled. I've known teachers who quite literally couldn't live on their income alone, and that is just sad. You are definitely not attracting a lot of teachers with crap like that. Without teachers, civilization as we know it collapses in a generation, and yet they make pennies compared to others. Fund public schools better, pay teachers much better, and you'll see some improvement.

Well, that's the problem. If you get rid of teachers now, everything is fine for a generation, and then it turns to crap and people get to make up stupid reasons for what the problem is. Delayed effect causes are like that.

20 years ago abortion was legalized. Now we don't have as many 20 year olds who weren't wanted as children, so we have a lower crime rate. But instead we have republicans saying that it's because we've decared war on pot smokers and privatized the prison system recently. And people buy it because it takes a little work to see how a problem that only got better recently was solved two decades ago, and now we're unsolving it.