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Michael Moore or Ann Coulter?

Achtung 45
09-06-2005, 00:31
Who do you think is more annoying whether it's their views, their actions, or their apperance? What do you respect about that person, if you have any respect for them at all? Sorry, no "other."
Naturality
09-06-2005, 00:41
Yay, this one worked :)

I voted Ann... but both can be annoying.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-06-2005, 00:42
They're both so uptight that they cant shit out of their butts and it all comes out of their mouths.

Edit: I meant tight assed, or uptight assholes, or whatever. You get the idea though.
Kreitzmoorland
09-06-2005, 00:42
Who's Ann Coulter?
Potaria
09-06-2005, 00:43
Myrth, of course!
Evil Arch Conservative
09-06-2005, 00:48
I don't agree with either on everything (though I'm sure we share some common ground). I probably agree with Ann more. You liberals can have your greasy ball of flab; I'm taking Ann.

Who's Ann Coulter?

The American far right's answer to Michael Moore. She's pretty hot.
Liverbreath
09-06-2005, 00:52
Myrth, of course!

Who's Myrth?
As far as the other two they can both be irritating instigators but Michael Moore lies constantly and that is something I just can't stand so he gets my vote.
Bolol
09-06-2005, 00:56
Both are incredibly annoying.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-06-2005, 00:56
Liverbreath']Who's Myrth?
Myrth is, or at least was, a mod. I don't stop by here that much anymore to pay attention to or care about who's what and what everybody is doing anymore.
Eutrusca
09-06-2005, 00:56
Who do you think is more annoying whether it's their views, their actions, or their apperance? What do you respect about that person, if you have any respect for them at all? Sorry, no "other."
I had to vote for Myrth again! Sheesh! Personally, I can't stand either Michael Moore OR Ann Coluter! They both have a total lack of regard for either facts or logic. :headbang:
Gottlose Heiden
09-06-2005, 00:59
Hmmm... While Michael Moore sometimes has a good point, he tends to lie a lot. However Ann Coulter just disgusts me... *shudder* So I will, of course, have to go with Ann.

Tee hee, I swear, I had absolutely NOTHING to do with Ann Coulter getting a pie in the face the last time she visited St. Thomas University, if you know what I'm talking about.
The Black Forrest
09-06-2005, 01:00
Who's Ann Coulter?

I wish I could say that.

She is this uptight American conservative who spews vitriol about the American liberals. She once said about Muslim nations "We should invade their countries, steal their oil, kill their men, and convert the rest to Christianity."


Best to avoid her if you can.
Kroisistan
09-06-2005, 01:00
Ann Coulter is 10^4.87023 times more annoying than Michael Moore.

Though I concede that either choice's annoyance level is pretty much entirely dependant on whether you agree with them or not.

Though this reminds me of when someone said they wished they could bury Ann Coulter up to her neck in the earth and run her over with a lawnmower, and the other guy said "we are here to bury our sister Ann, who died as she lived, making an irritating noise and spewing shit everywhere."
The Black Forrest
09-06-2005, 01:01
She's pretty hot.

Ewwww! You need to get outside more.
Gottlose Heiden
09-06-2005, 01:03
She's pretty hot.

Oh gross. Why can't you be into Pamela Anderson and Paris Hilton like other guys?
Potaria
09-06-2005, 01:03
Oh gross. Why can't you be into Pamela Anderson and Paris Hilton like other guys?

Uhh... They're not so "hot", either...

*shudder*
Gottlose Heiden
09-06-2005, 01:04
You liberals can have your greasy ball of flab;

I really resent that. Why is it bad to be fat? Just because some people don't fit the mainstream beauty ideal doesn't mean they're less of a person... And I'll just stop here before it turns into a full blown feminist rant.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 01:05
I voted Moore. How could anyone hate Annie?

Uhh... They're not so "hot", either...

*shudder*
Oh, what do you think of this little gem?
http://mywits.com/images/uploads/bigfatwoman.jpg
Gottlose Heiden
09-06-2005, 01:06
I voted Moore. How could anyone hate Annie?

Ummm... 'cause shes a racist pig?
Titians
09-06-2005, 01:08
Ann is so hot
Gambloshia
09-06-2005, 01:08
Ummm... 'cause shes a racist pig?

Just about to say that.

The Enlightened One, Gir
Gambloshia
09-06-2005, 01:10
Ann is so hot

I can't find someone I loathe attractive.

The Enlightened One, Gir
Liverbreath
09-06-2005, 01:11
I wish I could say that.

She is this uptight American conservative who spews vitriol about the American liberals. She once said about Muslim nations "We should invade their countries, steal their oil, kill their men, and convert the rest to Christianity."


Best to avoid her if you can.

That is not what she said. You must be a Michael Moore fan because lying doesnt bother you either.
Lovfro
09-06-2005, 01:11
I had no idea who this Ann person was before this thread, so I didn't vote.

Seems like she is only known in the US.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 01:12
Ann Coulter is one of those people that I would like to see drunk.
Potaria
09-06-2005, 01:14
Ann Coulter is one of those people that I would like to see drunk.

Haha, I'd pay to see that.
Gendara
09-06-2005, 01:15
She once said about Muslim nations "We should invade their countries, steal their oil, kill their men, and convert the rest to Christianity."

Hmm. And there's something wrong with that statement?

KIDDING!

Mostly.

Though, considering the sheer imperialism of my nation, and the fact that we ran railroad track across our entire region to "facilitate trade" (yeah, right - facilitate invasion, more like), I'd root my support of such an idea less on religious or racist principles, and more on the idea that Might Makes Right. Though the Moon Goddess DOES support our crusade to subjugate the inferior nations which surround us...


Oh gross. Why can't you be into Pamela Anderson and Paris Hilton like other guys?

Ugh. I'd rather put a bullet in either than my +3 Wand of Babymaking.
Wingull
09-06-2005, 01:16
Liverbreath']That is not what she said. You must be a Michael Moore fan because lying doesnt bother you either.

No, but it was close enough. The actual quote is, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Gottlose Heiden
09-06-2005, 01:16
Ann Coulter is one of those people that I would like to see drunk.

I can see Ann as a slutty drunk. Or possibly an extremely wild one. But not charming. I can't imagine her as a charming drunk.
Gambloshia
09-06-2005, 01:16
Haha, I'd pay to see that.

Likewise. Except so incredibly drunk, she's unable to function some body parts. That'd be funny.


The Enlightened One, Gir
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-06-2005, 01:20
No, but it was close enough. The actual quote is, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
There is a huge difference between killing all the men and just killing the leaders you know. Just because you change a few words doesn't mean that the meaning is still relatively close.
Gambloshia
09-06-2005, 01:22
There is a huge difference between killing all the men and just killing the leaders you know. Just because you change a few words doesn't mean that the meaning is still relatively close.

But you have to admit, it's still bad.


The Enlightened One, Gir
Khudros
09-06-2005, 01:40
I would go with Michael Moore, but only on the basis that Ann Coulter's much more scary than annoying to me. Kind of like a female Hitler with lots of repressed anger and hatred...
BiLiberal
09-06-2005, 01:42
Ann Coulter, anybody who thinks fomer Senator Joe McCarthy was right in his accusations, which ALL were found to be slanderous should shut the fuck up.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 01:44
Here is my scale of annoyance.
The left is the least and the right is the most annoying.
<-----AlFranken----SeanHannity---AnnCoulter--MichaelMoore------RushLimbaugh->
Upitatanium
09-06-2005, 01:46
She's pretty hot.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/coulter_adamsapple.jpg
Potaria
09-06-2005, 01:46
Here is my scale of annoyance.
The left is the least and the right is the most annoying.
<-----AlFranken----SeanHannity---AnnCoulter--MichaelMoore------RushLimbaugh->

How is Hannity less annoying than Moore and Coulter!?
Gambloshia
09-06-2005, 01:47
Here is my scale of annoyance.
The left is the least and the right is the most annoying.
<-----AlFranken----SeanHannity---AnnCoulter--MichaelMoore------RushLimbaugh->

Do NOT get me started on Rush Limbaugh! :upyours: to you, Rush.
Potaria
09-06-2005, 01:47
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/coulter_adamsapple.jpg

LOL!
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 01:48
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/coulter_adamsapple.jpg
She doesn't look like a bleach-blonde hag in that picture.
Gambloshia
09-06-2005, 01:48
LOL!

LOL!
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 01:50
How is Hannity less annoying than Moore and Coulter!?
I'll edit it.
<-----AlFranken----AlanColmes---AnnCoulter--MichaelMoore--SeanHannity--BillO'Reilly----RushLimbaugh->
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-06-2005, 01:50
But you have to admit, it's still bad.


The Enlightened One, Gir
I'll admit that, but making exaggerations like that makes one no better than the target of those exaggerations. That's why I really hate some of the political discussions in a lot of places, because that's what some of the more avid political speakers do. It really pisses me off to no end and I sometimes have to fight the urge to do physical damage to somebody or something.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 01:52
Let's just agree that most, if not all, pundits are ass hats.
Potaria
09-06-2005, 01:52
Let's just agree that most, if not all, pundits are ass hats.

That's more like it, damnit!
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 01:56
That's more like it, damnit!
Here is a short list:
Al Franken
Molly Ivans
James Carville
Paul Begala
Robert Novak
Ann Coulter
Michael Moore
Alan Colmes
Sean Hannity
Cal Thomas
Pat Buchanan
Bill Maher
Potaria
09-06-2005, 01:58
Here is a short list:
Al Franken
Molly Ivans
James Carville
Paul Begala
Robert Novak
Ann Coulter
Michael Moore
Alan Colmes
Sean Hannity
Cal Thomas
Pat Buchanan
Bill Maher

Good list. Don't forget Bill O'Reilly and Joe Scarbrough.
Rojo Cubana
09-06-2005, 01:59
They're both annoying sacks of shit who lie like crap, but at least Coulter doesn't cause world hunger.
AkhPhasa
09-06-2005, 02:00
I have to say Ann is infinitely more odious than Michael, at least in print. In live interviews though I actually find her hysterically funny, there is just no way she can be real. She makes such a complete ass of herself every time she opens her mouth that I must believe she is the contemporary version of Archie Bunker. She takes outlandish and absurd views of things and presents them in such a way that most people would be embarrassed to hear something that they believed coming out of her mouth, and might then recognize the fallacy of their beliefs. At least that's my view.
Nureonia
09-06-2005, 02:02
Michael Moore condemns an entire adminstration.

Ann Coulter condemns an entire party.

Who's bitchier? I think it's obvious.
Nidimor
09-06-2005, 02:05
Ann Coulter definitely: What with her being the spokesperson for the hypernationalists overrunning the country. She also stated in her book Slander that America should do exactly what the Al Qaeda members and other ts are trying to do: Evangelize their religion on the point of a gun. :sniper:
Rojo Cubana
09-06-2005, 02:05
Evangelize their religion on the point of a gun. :sniper:

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Ravenshrike
09-06-2005, 02:10
Michael Moore. Coulter is quite annoying as well, but she's in the spotlight less and at least she's not nearly as dishonest.
Nidimor
09-06-2005, 02:11
Kervoskia also left out James Watts and Rush Limbaugh.
I heard Rush being called " the greatest American" by TWO callers the other day. That makes me wonder: Are the prerequisites for being a good American being on and Latino-h@ting? :confused:
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-06-2005, 02:12
Do NOT get me started on Rush Limbaugh! :upyours: to you, Rush.
I must say that some of the things he says I actually find quite comical. That's one thing I like about political extremists, when they're not being annoying bitches they can be quite comical. That goes for people on both sides of the spectrum and not just Rush.

I love it when extremists on opposite sides get together and things become childish in a hurry, While finding it rather scary at the same time too.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 02:18
The list of pompous pundits (pardon the redundancy) continues...
James Watts
Rush Limbaugh
Bill O'Reilly
Joe Scarbrough
Nidimor
09-06-2005, 02:19
Originally posted by: Rojo Cubana

You say that like its a bad thing Ah, but of course. I'm simply too concerned with "earthly" things and not people's souls. Straight up man: I do think its a bad thing.
One, because a lot of people would probably end up getting shot.

Secondly, if theres one thing that would be MOST detrimental to the reputation of the Christians' version of God( and thus to evangelism) it would be if someone tried that.

And finally: You can't FORCE people to believe in Jesus. I don't believe in d@mnation if you're not a Christian, but I'll think about it from your point of view: Would mandatory conversion save them from hell? I think not.
Nidimor
09-06-2005, 02:27
Kervoskia: Why Molly Ivins? Just because shes often sarcastic or what? I personally think shes hilarious! Heres and excerpt from her bookGreat Political Animals I Have Known

Then, in the first 2004 debate, President Bush said we needed to start drilling for oil in Mexico, to decrease our dependency on "foreign oil" Startled the Mexicans. Lol!
Texpunditistan
09-06-2005, 02:29
I find Moore to be far more annoying than Coulter...generally because I agree with some of Ann's ideas and pretty much none of Lard Ass' ideas. Also, Ann at least uses hyperbole to try to be humorous, Burger Boy just lies and does so maliciously.

Besides, at least Ann is HONEST in her views. Moore says he's the champion of the working man while living in a million dollar Manhattan apartment and sends his kid to the finest snooty private schools. Ann's honest about being a conservative elitest.

Also, Ann would be hot if she didn't look like the bulimia poster girl. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE BUY THIS WOMAN A SANDWICH FER CRISSAKES!
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 02:32
Kervoskia: Why Molly Ivins? Just because shes often sarcastic or what? I personally think shes hilarious! Heres and excerpt from her bookGreat Political Animals I Have Known

Then, in the first 2004 debate, President Bush said we needed to start drilling for oil in Mexico, to decrease our dependency on "foreign oil" Startled the Mexicans. Lol!
A pundit is a pundit.
Saipea
09-06-2005, 02:41
Didn't we have a thread on this before? I know we had a thread on this before. The only difference was that Myrth wasn't in the poll options.

Moore is more annoying.
Coulter is just a psychobitch.
The Black Forrest
09-06-2005, 02:49
Liverbreath']That is not what she said. You must be a Michael Moore fan because lying doesnt bother you either.

Wow you got all that from a post. Gee you sure are smart. :rolleyes:

As to Moore, never saw any of his movies.

As to annie. It was a misquote I pulled from a site that "corrected" the original quote(which I could not remember the exact words).

John Hawkins: You've caught a lot of heat for a couple of quotes you made. In your column three days after 9/11, you said, "We know who the homicidal maniacs are.They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." You also said in an interview with the New York Observer, "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building." Do you stand by those quotes or do you think that perhaps you should have phrased them differently?

Ann Coulter: Ozzy Osbourne has his bats, and I have that darn "convert them to Christianity" quote. (Thank you for giving the full quote. I have the touch, don't I?) Some may not like what I said, but I'm still waiting to hear a better suggestion.
http://rightwingnews.com/interviews/anncoulter.php

Still doesn't paint a nice picture of that hag.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-06-2005, 03:00
Burger Boy just lies and does so maliciously.

There is a difference between lying and telling half truths. Well there is if you want to make that distinction anyways. The truth can be manipulated to say anything you want it to when it's taken out of context or chopped into biddy pieces. Therefore half truths are much worse than an outright lie due to the element of truth that people can faithfully buy if they don't bother to look it up themselves. Moore's not the only asshole who does this, there are lots of people who do it on both sides of the fence and even in the middle.
Texpunditistan
09-06-2005, 03:04
There is a difference between lying and telling half truths. Well there is if you want to make that distinction anyways. The truth can be manipulated to say anything you want it to when it's taken out of context or chopped into biddy pieces. Therefore half truths are much worse than an outright lie due to the element of truth that people can faithfully buy if they don't bother to look it up themselves. Moore's not the only asshole who does this, there are lots of people who do it on both sides of the fence and even in the middle.
I'll never get this argument.

To me, telling a "half-truth" is like being a "little bit preganat".

If it's not the "whole truth and nothing but the truth", it's a lie.
Constitutionals
09-06-2005, 03:15
Who do you think is more annoying whether it's their views, their actions, or their apperance? What do you respect about that person, if you have any respect for them at all? Sorry, no "other."


Ann.

She makes me want to vomit, the murderer her.

Then vomit again.
Dagnia
09-06-2005, 03:15
I hate both of them. They are both fact-distorting morons who occasionally make a good, but superficial point. I really don't know which one is more annoying because I go to college where Michael Moore is all the rage among the brats whose rich daddies pay for their college (while the ones who actually work to pay for college and are from working class backgrounds can't stand him, there must be something to that) and have never had an independent thought in their lives. On the other hand, I get the heebie-jeebies every time some wanker thinks Ann Coulter is hot. Have you any idea how old she is?
Tune out both of these imbeciles and get an original thought in your heads, people!
Khudros
09-06-2005, 03:18
You say that like it's a bad thing.

That's because it IS a bad thing! Physically forcing other people to believe in what you do is second only to extermination in terms of uncool behavior. :headbang:
Texpunditistan
09-06-2005, 03:27
Have you any idea how old she is?
I'm guessing about my age: early to mid 30s.
Dagnia
09-06-2005, 03:35
According to this (http://www.soundbitten.com/020829.html) , she's 40.
Dakini
09-06-2005, 03:37
Ann Coulter.

I don't believe Michael Moore ever claimed that Canada participated in the Vietnam war and then argued with a canadian news anchor on this point insisting that he was right... unlike the other option in the poll.

Nor has he advocated invading all muslim countries, killing their leaders and converting them all to christianity. He's not perfect, but at least he doesn't wear idiocy like a badge of honour.
Dakini
09-06-2005, 03:37
According to this (http://www.soundbitten.com/020829.html) , she's 40.
I would have pegged her as older. She looks older.

My mom is 50 and she looks older than my mom.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-06-2005, 03:39
I'll never get this argument.

To me, telling a "half-truth" is like being a "little bit preganat".

If it's not the "whole truth and nothing but the truth", it's a lie.
Well to me being a little bit pregnant is when you're either not showing that you're pregnant or you're only having one child. Whereas being very much pregnant is when the lady is showing the big belly and you never know when she's going to burst or she may be having quintuplets. We could play the perspective game for hours but I'll just let it rest with that. It's all about perspective. Everybody has one and not everybody shares them. I'm selfish anyways so I guess that it all works out in the end :p
The Bauhas
09-06-2005, 03:43
Ann Coulter.
While Michael Moore is merely an idiot, Ann Coulter is also -in addition to being an idiot- an evil, hate-mongering, anorexic bitch.

Both of them are embarrassments (Moore makes the liberals look bad, and Ann makes the conservatives look far worse), but Ann is just completely horrid because she's so hateful.
Neo Rogolia
09-06-2005, 04:05
Michael Moore. He's a bold-faced liar! Ann Coulter, on the other hand, is cool :p
The Bauhas
09-06-2005, 04:09
Michael Moore. He's a bold-faced liar! Ann Coulter, on the other hand, is cool :p


Both of them are liars, obviously.

They're both such extremists that they're unable to look at virtually any information without interpreting it in their own, biased little ways..
Lacadaemon
09-06-2005, 04:30
It's a hard choice, but in the end, tubby's hatred of the disabled and black people wins out. (That and his efforts in turning Bravo from a serious arts channel into a vehicle for the movie "working girl".)

So I have to say Micheal Moore.
31
09-06-2005, 12:07
Mr. Moore, very annoying. Ann Coulter, moderately funny. I did like Roger and Me, after that Moore made crap. Now what I want to see is a film made by Ann Coulter. They can use a fisheye lens the entire film. :D
Wurzelmania
09-06-2005, 12:25
<<Michael Moore is all the rage among the brats whose rich daddies pay for their college (while the ones who actually work to pay for college and are from working class backgrounds can't stand him, there must be something to that)>>

Hmmm, so the fact I'll be paying my way through higher education means nothing to this analysis.

I don't like Moore much but I agree with much of what he says. Coulter on the other hand is the kind of hate-spewing maniac the BBC would sting.
Delator
09-06-2005, 12:37
Though this reminds me of when someone said they wished they could bury Ann Coulter up to her neck in the earth and run her over with a lawnmower, and the other guy said "we are here to bury our sister Ann, who died as she lived, making an irritating noise and spewing shit everywhere."

:fluffle:

*wipes a tear* Oh man...that was hilarious!
Garas
09-06-2005, 12:43
I really resent that. Why is it bad to be fat? Just because some people don't fit the mainstream beauty ideal doesn't mean they're less of a person... And I'll just stop here before it turns into a full blown feminist rant.

Because obesity is the physical symbol of being irresponisible, not caring about your health, and greedy.

How ironic that this fits the lifestyle of Michael Moore and his fans.
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 13:51
Ann Coulter may be spiteful and arrogant, but if you read her book "Slander", she has cites for everything she asserts. Unlike the omissions, distortions, and outright editing that Moore uses in his films to manufacture "facts", Coulter, at least in her books, is standing on solid ground.

Her regular articles, on the other hand, seem to all be shot from the hip (or the ass, as it were).

Probably the best, and most solid regular commentator I read is Christopher Hitchens, who makes both Coulter and Moore look like puerile high school newspaper reporters.
Dominus Gloriae
09-06-2005, 13:54
Ann Coulter, or (D)ann Coulter check out the adams apple here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.rawilson.com/images/coulter.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.rawilson.com/jokes.shtml&h=247&w=281&sz=43&tbnid=edV_wULxFYkJ:&tbnh=95&tbnw=109&hl=en&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dann%2Bcoulter%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG)
Pterodonia
09-06-2005, 14:04
Both are annoying, but Ann Coulter completely turned me off with this statement: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter.shtml
Pterodonia
09-06-2005, 14:05
Probably the best, and most solid regular commentator I read is Christopher Hitchens, who makes both Coulter and Moore look like puerile high school newspaper reporters.

Yup - I like Hitchens, too.
[NS:]Rebellen
09-06-2005, 14:09
Because obesity is the physical symbol of being irresponisible, not caring about your health, and greedy.


Hardly. How is fatness a physical sign of greed? And yes, being obese is unhealthy, but being overweight isn't. You can be a few pounds overweight and still lead a healthy life. I know people who are vegitarians and are overweight, so it doesn't mean you aren't healthy. Also, fatness can be a genetical problem, not necissarily a lifestyle choice one.
BackwoodsSquatches
09-06-2005, 14:11
Moores movies may be somewhat decietfully edited, unlike his books wich are usually entirely backed up with non biased quotes and sources.

Coulter spews hatred and bile at anyone who disagrees with her.
Pterodonia
09-06-2005, 14:11
Rebellen']I know people who are vegitarians and are overweight, so it doesn't mean you aren't healthy.

Your comment seems to assume that being a vegetarian automatically makes one healthy - is this what you intended to imply?
[NS:]Rebellen
09-06-2005, 14:14
Your comment seems to assume that being a vegetarian automatically makes one healthy - is this what you intended to imply?

Not necissarily (that's the second time I've said that and I believe I'm spelling it wrong, sorry). If you are a healthy vegitarian, who is actually getting protein and everything you get from meat, then yes. If you are one of those vegitarians who eats bread and pasta for every meal and really isn't getting a lot of nutrients, then no, its not healthy.
Joshmark
09-06-2005, 14:23
Both Ann Coulter and Michael Moore are finatic nut jobs who twist facts to support their views, thats when their not out and out lying.
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 14:33
Yup - I like Hitchens, too.
I like him because instead of slavishly sticking to an ideology, he's thinking clearly about each issue.

Coulter and Moore are slavishly sticking to their ideology, even when it's stupid to do so.
Ermarian
09-06-2005, 14:35
Overweight demagogue vs. shrill, rawboned hag?

Tough choice. I'll have to vote by politics rather than person in this case.
The Similized world
09-06-2005, 15:08
Calling any of them factual would be close to a crime against humanity...
That said, I share a lot of Moores veiws. It's annoying me how that idiot makes the rest of the leftwing look like liers and idiots. Given the chance, I honestly think I'd break his knees.

But Coulter is insane. It makes me sick to the core, but even Adolf Hitler sounds like a nice guy compared to her. If there is such a thing as pure evil, then I guess she's it.

The first several times I read/watched her, I thought she was an act. It was only when I tried to find some stuff on the web to show a friend, I realized she's the real deal. Oh the horror...

Anyway, I voted Coulter. Tho perhaps Moore annoys me more. But she scares me. And it scares me silly some of you Americans listen to her. I'm all for freedom of speach, but if I were dictator of the USA, I'd seriously consider exiling her.
Xanaz
09-06-2005, 15:51
Even though sometimes he goes about it the wrong way, Michael Moore is not insane like Annie, and while at times it may be mis-directed but at least you know Michael Moore cares and loves the USA for what the founding fathers had in mind. Annie girl is just a nut-case.
Dakini
09-06-2005, 15:52
Ann Coulter may be spiteful and arrogant, but if you read her book "Slander", she has cites for everything she asserts. Unlike the omissions, distortions, and outright editing that Moore uses in his films to manufacture "facts", Coulter, at least in her books, is standing on solid ground.

Her regular articles, on the other hand, seem to all be shot from the hip (or the ass, as it were).

Probably the best, and most solid regular commentator I read is Christopher Hitchens, who makes both Coulter and Moore look like puerile high school newspaper reporters.
Weren't all the sources she cited thoroughly debunked though?
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 15:53
Even though sometimes he goes about it the wrong way, Michael Moore is not insane like Annie, and while at times it may be mis-directed but at least you know Michael Moore cares and loves the USA for what the founding fathers had in mind. Annie girl is just a nut-case.

Nothing in her book, Slander, comes off as insane. She has backing for everything she says in that book.

She does sound crazy when she's penning her regular stuff - and she shoots her mouth off like an idiot.

Both do it for the attention. I would be surprised if either of them actually believed everything that spouted out of their frontally mounted rectums.
Harivan
09-06-2005, 16:09
Moore is the more annoying of the two.
Achtung 45
09-06-2005, 16:47
Calling any of them factual would be close to a crime against humanity...
That said, I share a lot of Moores veiws. It's annoying me how that idiot makes the rest of the leftwing look like liers and idiots. Given the chance, I honestly think I'd break his knees.

But Coulter is insane. It makes me sick to the core, but even Adolf Hitler sounds like a nice guy compared to her. If there is such a thing as pure evil, then I guess she's it.

Or Dick Cheney, a.k.a. Gollum
Anyway, I voted Coulter. Tho perhaps Moore annoys me more. But she scares me. And it scares me silly some of you Americans listen to her. I'm all for freedom of speach, but if I were dictator of the USA, I'd seriously consider exiling her.
I'm still proud of the fact that when she came to my town, two guys threw pies at her.
Roach-Busters
09-06-2005, 16:49
Myrth.
Kervoskia
09-06-2005, 16:51
Lil Annie* isn't that popular. :(



*Shrill bitch
The Similized world
09-06-2005, 16:59
I'm still proud of the fact that when she came to my town, two guys threw pies at her.
Which in turn makes me proud we're the same spicies. But use bowls of vomit next time, will ya? Cheers.
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 18:36
Lil Annie* isn't that popular. :(

*Shrill bitch

I guess that's why she sells a lot of books. Unpopular people always make bestseller lists.
Garas
09-06-2005, 19:05
Rebellen']Hardly. How is fatness a physical sign of greed? And yes, being obese is unhealthy, but being overweight isn't. You can be a few pounds overweight and still lead a healthy life. I know people who are vegitarians and are overweight, so it doesn't mean you aren't healthy. Also, fatness can be a genetical problem, not necissarily a lifestyle choice one.

Great, are you one of those people who think obesity is a disease?

People get fat by being greedy and eating more then their share. There is no genetics or 'disease' involved. You get fat by eating more then you move. Plain and simple.

This is why I hate liberals. They want other people to take care of their problems.
Achtung 45
09-06-2005, 19:27
Great, are you one of those people who think obesity is a disease?

People get fat by being greedy and eating more then their share. There is no genetics or 'disease' involved. You get fat by eating more then you move. Plain and simple.

This is why I hate liberals. They want other people to take care of their problems.
If only everything was that simple on Earth. I know plenty of people who don't excessivly eat, are even vegitarian, exercise regularly and are still obese, but what does that have to do with anything? EVERYONE is greedy, you, me, Michael Moore, and definately Ann Coulter. This is why I hate conservatives. They think everything is black and white.
EDIT: Sorry, I probably just encouraged a flame fest, but one good bombing deserves another.
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 19:28
If only everything was that simple on Earth. I know plenty of people who don't excessivly eat, are even vegitarian, exercise regularly and are still obese, but what does that have to do with anything? EVERYONE is greedy, you, me, Michael Moore, and definately Ann Coulter. This is why I hate conservatives. They think everything is black and white.

I'm conservative, and I don't. Some things are, most things aren't.
Pterodonia
09-06-2005, 19:30
I like him because instead of slavishly sticking to an ideology, he's thinking clearly about each issue.

Coulter and Moore are slavishly sticking to their ideology, even when it's stupid to do so.

Of course, one might consider him slavishly contrary - but that's what I like about him. :D
Demo-Bobylon
09-06-2005, 19:35
For proof that Ann Coulter is an obnoxious, arrogant lying liar, read Lies and the lying liars who tell them by Al Franken.
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 19:35
For proof that Ann Coulter is an obnoxious, arrogant lying liar, read Lies and the lying liars who tell them by Al Franken.
Oh, Al is a big liar as well.

BTW, read Slander. Everything in the book is backed up by facts.
The Black Forrest
09-06-2005, 19:50
Or Dick Cheney, a.k.a. Gollum


Didn't he play the gestopo guy in Raiders of the Lost Ark? ;)
The Black Forrest
09-06-2005, 19:52
Great, are you one of those people who think obesity is a disease?

People get fat by being greedy and eating more then their share. There is no genetics or 'disease' involved. You get fat by eating more then you move. Plain and simple.

This is why I hate liberals. They want other people to take care of their problems.

Ahhh A good conservative.

Who says our school system isn't in danger? :rolleyes:


You might want to read up on something before you comment on it.
CthulhuFhtagn
09-06-2005, 20:00
BTW, read Slander. Everything in the book is backed up by facts.
What, like the "facts" that are directly contradicted by the sources she cites? I can cite whatever the fuck I want. It's your job to check if what I cite actually supports it.
Kroblexskij
09-06-2005, 20:06
Didn't he play the gestopo guy in Raiders of the Lost Ark? ;)
nope that was your yank rumblesyfeltstiltskin i think he's called
Flipzakistan
09-06-2005, 20:11
I know a helluva lot more right-leaning thinkers who despise Anne Coulter than left-leaning thinkers who despise Michael Moore. Granted, the righties take Moore to task for his stretching of the truth, twisting of facts, and outright lying. He's the master of doublespeak, Orwellian attitude at its best, one of Chairman Mao's poster boys for the New Cultural Revolution. Coulter is just a ranting bitch. Mikey DonutAss has done far more damage to this country at home and abroad by his propagandist mindmeld docucartoons than a platoon of Coulters could ever achieve.

I hope he fucking chokes on his next Big Mac just shy of the point of permanent brain damage.
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 20:17
What, like the "facts" that are directly contradicted by the sources she cites? I can cite whatever the fuck I want. It's your job to check if what I cite actually supports it.

Nope, I've gone through the book several times, and none of her sources contradict anything she says in the book.

Try again.
Flipzakistan
09-06-2005, 20:32
--Moores movies may be somewhat decietfully edited, unlike his books wich are usually entirely backed up with non biased quotes and sources.
--

you GOTTA be shittin' me. You're joking, right?

http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031016.html

http://www.robfisher.net/blog/archive/2003/08/24/michael-moore/

http://www.moorelies.com/news/archives/display.cfm?newsID=385

http://www.swsbm.com/MMCatPage/MMBooks.html
oops, not that link! sorry.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/23/165945.shtml

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?p=1&kaid=127&subid=177&contentid=252483


you ARE kidding, right? :D
The Black Forrest
09-06-2005, 20:42
Hmmm is it a sad state of affairs when this thread has 114 posts and a thread over the speration of church and state has 87?

;)
Whispering Legs
09-06-2005, 20:43
Hmmm is it a sad state of affairs when this thread has 114 posts and a thread over the speration of church and state has 87?

;)

That's why Mike and Ann are rich. They intentionally flame and troll to make money.

Much more stimulating than a boring Constitutional discussion.
Domici
09-06-2005, 21:02
I don't agree with either on everything (though I'm sure we share some common ground). I probably agree with Ann more. You liberals can have your greasy ball of flab; I'm taking Ann.



The American far right's answer to Michael Moore. She's pretty hot.

No, she's America's far right answer to the tooth Fairy.

Michael Moore might arrange the truth in ways that exaggerate how bad conservatives are but Ann Coulter tells outright lies.
Domici
09-06-2005, 21:11
Oh, Al is a big liar as well.

BTW, read Slander. Everything in the book is backed up by facts.


Just because you include endnotes doesn't mean that facts back you up. She wildly misinterprets data and then makes up lies based on her misinterpretation.

For example, she claims that conservatives have a better track record on civil rights than liberals because many democrats voted against the civil rights act. Actually, I believe that her exact words were "though they claim, lyingly, that they have a better record on civil rights." Her deliberate misinterpretation (read lie) is that democrat != liberal. Especially during the 60's and 70's. These days the sort of democrat she's talking about are called Dixiecrats. Conservative Zell Miller type democrats. If she said that Republicans have a better track record, well that would simply be a half-truth, but she said conservatives have the better track record which is a blatant lie.

I've read parts of Treason and Slander. I can't stomach an entire chapter, much less book, written by Coulter, but I can open any random page in any of her books and find absolute bullshit. I do it every time I walk down the social science aisle at any bookstore.
Ulrichland
09-06-2005, 21:21
Michael Moore is annoying, but in a funny, pathetic way.

Ann Coulter ist annoying, a evil nazi-bitch, but reasonably good looking (that is if you like lean blondes).

Tough choice, really.

...

I'd say Ann Coulter. She is definatley evil. And full of shit.
Domici
09-06-2005, 21:21
I love what this site (http://impiousdigest.com/coulter.htm) has to say about Ann Coulter because it comes from a largely conservative site. They even think that Matt Drudge is objective. I'm completly apathetic about the rest of who the article complains about because I don't pay them any attention.
Domici
09-06-2005, 21:23
Michael Moore is annoying, but in a funny, pathetic way.

Ann Coulter ist annoying, a evil nazi-bitch, but reasonably good looking (that is if you like lean blondes).

Tough choice, really.

...

I'd say Ann Coulter. She is definatley evil. And full of shit.

How can she be full of shit? She obviously uses Ex-Lax the way most women use Slim-Fast. You've got it backwards, she only seems to be full of shit because she expells every last ounce of shit from her body immediatly onto a page and then publishes it.

Moore is a bit more retentive.
Ulrichland
09-06-2005, 21:29
How can she be full of shit? She obviously uses Ex-Lax the way most women use Slim-Fast. You've got it backwards, she only seems to be full of shit because she expells every last ounce of shit from her body immediatly onto a page and then publishes it.

Well. Ehmmm. Okay. Though I'll have to admit you just lost me.
Carnivorous Lickers
09-06-2005, 21:31
I know a helluva lot more right-leaning thinkers who despise Anne Coulter than left-leaning thinkers who despise Michael Moore. Granted, the righties take Moore to task for his stretching of the truth, twisting of facts, and outright lying. He's the master of doublespeak, Orwellian attitude at its best, one of Chairman Mao's poster boys for the New Cultural Revolution. Coulter is just a ranting bitch. Mikey DonutAss has done far more damage to this country at home and abroad by his propagandist mindmeld docucartoons than a platoon of Coulters could ever achieve.

I hope he fucking chokes on his next Big Mac just shy of the point of permanent brain damage.


Its clear to me that fat,self loathing bastard has already passed that point.
His existance is certainly moore annoying than almost anyone's.
Right up there with another American icon-Rosie Odonnel.
Two pieces of shit that wouldnt make a living in any other country in the world, doing what they do.
Manawskistan
09-06-2005, 21:32
Roger Ebert said it best:



Q. I greatly enjoy your reviews and the thoughtful observations they contain. However, I get a little worried about the strength of your argument in your review of "Unleashed," when you make the case for women being able to stir a man's humanity by using Ann Coulter as your example. That is the same person who claimed women should bear arms but not be able to vote.

C. Perla, Miami

A. Wouldn't you sleep more soundly at night knowing Ann Coulter was in the Army and not in a voting booth?
Tograna
09-06-2005, 23:55
5 minutes ago I knew nothing about Ann Coulter, having looked at her wikipedia article I have concluded that she is infact one of the most evil people alive

little gems like: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

Mean that I'd rather have tea with Saddam Hussain than this bitch
The Shards of Narsil
10-06-2005, 00:08
Michael Moore is a genious!
I'd probably vote for him for president if the world blew up and he was the only democrat left!
Domici
10-06-2005, 00:15
little gems like: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

Yup, exact conservative counterpart to Al Franken, right? [/sarcasm]
Domici
10-06-2005, 00:20
Its clear to me that fat,self loathing bastard has already passed that point.
His existance is certainly moore annoying than almost anyone's.
Right up there with another American icon-Rosie Odonnel.
Two pieces of shit that wouldnt make a living in any other country in the world, doing what they do.

I seem to recall that Michael Moore had an easier time availing himself of the free speech in France than he did in America.

As for Rosie O'Donnel, I never liked her TV show, I found her stand-up comedy boring (and I love stand-up), but I accidentally caught her on The View the other day and I have to admit, it was nice to see her tear into Sean Hannity. Between the two of them they add up to a half way decent Irish-American.
Domici
10-06-2005, 00:27
Roger Ebert said it best:

I looked up that interview.
Ann Coulter was explaining when she was so rudely shouted down the other day, women are a civilizing influence on men,...

I find it highly ironic that she would say that when after the Abu Garaib scandal broke she said that it was because we allowed women in the military now.
Achtung 45
10-06-2005, 00:33
Tee hee, I swear, I had absolutely NOTHING to do with Ann Coulter getting a pie in the face the last time she visited St. Thomas University, if you know what I'm talking about.
Sorry to correct you, and I am a little late, but I take immense pride in the fact that it was at the University of Arizona, in my town, where the "pie incident" occurred. And last time I checked, the two guys missed her, we must practice our pie-throwing. (Unless there is a cloning of this incident I am not aware of?)
Domici
10-06-2005, 00:33
5 minutes ago I knew nothing about Ann Coulter, having looked at her wikipedia article I have concluded that she is infact one of the most evil people alive

little gems like: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

Mean that I'd rather have tea with Saddam Hussain than this bitch

Ya. They're both noxious personalitites, but at least with Hussein you might learn something. The only way I'd have tea with Coulter is if she, a judge, and the governor all signed a waiver absolving me of legal responsibility in the event of her decapitation. Not that I advocate it, just that I don't think I could help myself. My patience and tolerance are infinite, but even infinity will eventually come back around in a curved universe.
Domici
10-06-2005, 00:34
Sorry to correct you, and I am a little late, but I take immense pride in the fact that it was at the University of Arizona, in my town, where the "pie incident" occurred. And last time I checked, the two guys missed her, we must practice our pie-throwing. (Unless there is a cloning of this incident I am not aware of?)

Couldn't possibly be. If Coulter were exposed to cream pie twice within a year I'm sure she'd have exploded.