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If you were president of the U.S., what would be your major policy push?

I'll start. Cutting spending by 85% and passing a balanced budget amendment would be my major push.

Another goal is to push for universal healthcare with loose government control.

Orchestrate unneccesary wars and use them to my advantage to push through certain legislature.

Oh wait... :D (someone had to type it)

Orchestrate unneccesary wars and use them to my advantage to push through certain legislature.

Oh wait... :D (someone had to type it)


What country are you from? Don't worry I am just curious.

1 Crush the trade deficit.

2 See fuel efficient cars driven on our highways.

3 Hear the lamentation of Islamofascists when I bomb the hell out of them.

What country are you from? Don't worry I am just curious.
I'm from the UK. Yeah, I wish I'd been in the anti-war campaign. :p

Bringing home the troops from every unnecessary country. Get rid of the national debt by at least 50%, Unite the Currencies of the Americas under a single Currency. Give more freedoms, scrap the "Patriot Act" and would increase health care, also changing the US's foreign policy to increase the world oppinion.

Make it illegal for parents to involve children under 12 years old in their religion. Objective schoolcourses in the various mainstream and less mainstream religions from 12-16, while parents can try to convince their children that their choice is the right one. From 16 years on everyone can choose and practice any religion they desire (within bounds of the law of course).

Bringing home the troops from every unnecessary country. Get rid of the national debt by at least 50%, Unite the Currencies of the Americas under a single Currency. Give more freedoms, scrap the "Patriot Act" and would increase health care, also changing the US's foreign policy to increase the world oppinion.

I agree with getting the troops home.

If you were president of the U.S., what would be your major policy push?

I'll start. Cutting spending by 85% and passing a balanced budget amendment would be my major push.

Balanced budget... ok... but an 85% spending cut? Do you have even a vague idea of how you might accomplish something like that without crippling the country?

Balanced budget... ok... but an 85% spending cut? Do you have even a vague idea of how you might accomplish something like that without crippling the country?
The common man doesn't need to consider something like 'plausibility'. He's got magic!

If you were president of the U.S., what would be your major policy push?

Social Security Reform. Redoing the whole friggin Pentagon. Nuke North Korea just for the hell of it! :D

I'll start. Cutting spending by 85% and passing a balanced budget amendment would be my major push.

This will never happen. To many people from both parties will balk at this unfortunately. Though you could get your balanced budget amendment through. Cutting spending 85% though is fantasy land.

Another goal is to push for universal healthcare with loose government control.

The people will never go for this.

Make it illegal for parents to involve children under 12 years old in their religion.

Violates the 1st amendment therefore, it can't be done. Nice try though.

Objective schoolcourses in the various mainstream and less mainstream religions from 12-16, while parents can try to convince their children that their choice is the right one. From 16 years on everyone can choose and practice any religion they desire (within bounds of the law of course).

This is common knowledge. Most high schools offer comparative Religion classes anyway as an elective. Making it mandatory would take away from more important subjects like Math, Science, and History.

Withdraw all troops from Europe and end NATO. Renegotiate defense treaties with the UK, Poland and Turkey.
Withdraw all troops from and support for S. Korea. Break off any diplomatic ties with N. Korea. Let China and their S. Korean brothers deal with them.
Renegotiate defense treaties with Japan and Taiwan. Try to get Japan to get off its ass and rewrite its constitution to allow the use of its military.
Focus on African development and investment. Try to build strong economic ties with sub-saharan Africa.
Invest huge amounts of money into space. Mars or bust baby! And also huge amounts of money into the development of Hydrogen fuel-cell tech.

Balanced budget... ok... but an 85% spending cut? Do you have even a vague idea of how you might accomplish something like that without crippling the country?

I'll give you a list.

1. Cut the military down to defense only.
2. Eliminate public education.
3. Eliminate the IRS.
4. Make politics part time. Eliminate government pensions.
5. Privatize the post office.
6. Eliminate pension insurance.
7. Institute a rent tax on foreign business and eliminate all domestic taxes. We are good consumers. People will want to rent to do business in the states.
8. Eliminate subsides.

The 85% was just a number to grab attention.

Withdraw all troops from and support for S. Korea. Break off any diplomatic ties with N. Korea. Let China and their S. Korean brothers deal with them.
I understood where you were coming from for all of your post except this bit. Could you explain?

I'll give you a list.

1. Cut the military down to defense only.

You'll have a coup on your hands not to mention it'll never pass Congress!

2. Eliminate public education.

Good luck getting re-elected.

3. Eliminate the IRS.

I'll support you on this! :)

4. Make politics part time. Eliminate government pensions.

You really can't do this unfortunately.

5. Privatize the post office.

I'll support this too :D

6. Eliminate pension insurance.

I wouldn't do this if I were you. This'll spell suicide for your political career.

7. Institute a rent tax on foreign business and eliminate all domestic taxes. We are good consumers. People will want to rent to do business in the states.

I can go with this. It has merits!

8. Eliminate subsides.

Which subsides?

The 85% was just a number to grab attention.

Did a good job considering its impractical.

I understood where you were coming from for all of your post except this bit. Could you explain?

One reason is that the S. Koreans don't want us there. Sure, their government does but generally their peope now blame the US for the whole N. Korean problem. It would have been better for us had we doen nothing in 1950.
The second is that the N. Korean issue is China's Pakistan against the US. China used Pakistan to weaken and distract India for years. They supplied weapons and aid to the Pakistanis because it forced India to waste reasources fighting them. Thus enabling China to get an edge.
China does the same thing with N. Korea. They maintain them as a way of causing trouble for the US in Asia. This distracts the US from other things and allows China an edge. They are very smart in the Chinese government.
So, my solution is to ignore it. Let N. Korea scream and throw tantrums all it wants. We should simply ignore that they exist after telling them that if they in anyway harm Japan, which would hopefully remain an ally, we will turn their nation into a sheet of glass. (Of course not really, just the usual blustery nuke threat)

Ask the leaders of nations where US troops are stationed to hold a general referendum on whether they actually WANT a US presence in their nation, then act on that.

Cut the military budget to a reasonable level.

Balance the budget, mainly through ^^, but also trim it of some of the ridiculousness I know is there.

Establish a long term workable safety net to prevent poverty.

Get universal healthcare either through actual universal health care, vouchers, or something else

Really zero in on corporate corruption and general assaholism, make sure Enron doesn't happen again.

Re-establish a commitment to international cooperation, respect the UN while I attempt to work with fellow nations to streamline and reform that body. Join Kyoto agreement. Immediatly join the International Criminal Court.

Issue an apology to the people of Iraq for an invasion on false pretenses, but commit to remaining in Iraq to ensure they at least come out ahead, with a stable government and a rebuit nation.

Resume the pursuit of Osama bin Laden, but focus more on apprehending him as a criminal and not engaging him as if he were a hostile nation.

Demand that the Saudis cut funding to Terror, or face sanctions and a loss of support.

Arrest the key planners of the Iraq war within the ex-Bush administration, hold them before the International Criminal Court for creating a war based on false pretenses and lying to the UN and international community, then defying those bodies. Hold them before the citizens of the US as well, for bringing our nation to war unneccesarily.

Allow an independant commission to review the abuses at Guantanimo and Abu Gharib, to discover whether or not all perpetrators and those who ordered or ignored them were apprehended. Enforce the fullest possible punishment on those who committed those acts.

Immediatly disallow the official use of the term "leader of the free world" in reference to the President of the US. The president will only be the leader of the US, not the world.

Many more if I really thought hard about it.

One reason is that the S. Koreans don't want us there. Sure, their government does but generally their peope now blame the US for the whole N. Korean problem. It would have been better for us had we doen nothing in 1950.
The second is that the N. Korean issue is China's Pakistan against the US. China used Pakistan to weaken and distract India for years. They supplied weapons and aid to the Pakistanis because it forced India to waste reasources fighting them. Thus enabling China to get an edge.
China does the same thing with N. Korea. They maintain them as a way of causing trouble for the US in Asia. This distracts the US from other things and allows China an edge. They are very smart in the Chinese government.
So, my solution is to ignore it. Let N. Korea scream and throw tantrums all it wants. We should simply ignore that they exist after telling them that if they in anyway harm Japan, which would hopefully remain an ally, we will turn their nation into a sheet of glass. (Of course not really, just the usual blustery nuke threat)


I agree. Lets stop playing games. If they want to fight, give a reason to do so.

I agree with getting the troops home.

Bad idea. Pulling out before the Iraq's situation stabilized would create a power vacuum that would be quickly filled by a multidude of minor warlords fighting for control, possibly spreading in the neighboring countries. Combine that with the impression of weakness that would give to anti-USA extremists and you'd get a major rise in terrorism as more easily-conned members would flock to those who managed to chase the Americans out of their country.

Bottom line? This whole Iraq thing was started on a halfassed premise, with an equally halfassed execution, but you're stuck there until it's cleaned up. Sucks to be you. Deal.

One reason is that the S. Koreans don't want us there. Sure, their government does but generally their peope now blame the US for the whole N. Korean problem. It would have been better for us had we doen nothing in 1950.
That would have ended up much like Vietnam i.e. Communist. I refuse to believe that people who have benefitted so much from their rapid development after we prevented the communist overthrow of the South. South Korea would have just been part of that completely closed, lunatic nation, suffering from poor health, weak economy, insufficient food supplies and constant power cuts, not to mention the complete lack of political freedoms they enjoy now. S. Korea should be grateful.
The second is that the N. Korean issue is China's Pakistan against the US. China used Pakistan to weaken and distract India for years. They supplied weapons and aid to the Pakistanis because it forced India to waste reasources fighting them. Thus enabling China to get an edge.
China does the same thing with N. Korea. They maintain them as a way of causing trouble for the US in Asia. This distracts the US from other things and allows China an edge. They are very smart in the Chinese government.I really didn't know that. I would imagine, though, that these tactics have been lessened in recent years since China began mass trading with the US.
So, my solution is to ignore it. Let N. Korea scream and throw tantrums all it wants. We should simply ignore that they exist after telling them that if they in anyway harm Japan, which would hopefully remain an ally, we will turn their nation into a sheet of glass. (Of course not really, just the usual blustery nuke threat)
OK, I think I understand now. :)

I agree. Lets stop playing games. If they want to fight, give a reason to do so.
You want to give North Korea, a nation with strong ties to China (as 31 pointed out), a nation which is possibly building a nuclear arsenal, a reason to fight. You are aware that all actions have consequences, right? We'd have another WWI style situation with a rapid chain of events leading to war, only this time one where we ALL could die.

That would have ended up much like Vietnam i.e. Communist. I refuse to believe that people who have benefitted so much from their rapid development after we prevented the communist overthrow of the South. South Korea would have just been part of that completely closed, lunatic nation, suffering from poor health, weak economy, insufficient food supplies and constant power cuts, not to mention the complete lack of political freedoms they enjoy now. S. Korea should be grateful.
I really didn't know that. I would imagine, though, that these tactics have been lessened in recent years since China began mass trading with the US.

OK, I think I understand now. :)

Only one thing I am not sure of, your line "I refuse to believe that people who have benefitted so much from their rapid development after we prevented the communist overthorw of the South." i am not clear on what this means.

Everyone here is clear on the fact that "president" is not synonymous with "king," right? Being president is really a lot less exciting than most people seem to think. As president, everything you do, and attempt to do will draw reactions from not only your own country, but very often others as well. Not to mention that there's some stuff that you simply can't do, such as propose bills.

Of course, if I was president, and the president was some sort of elected enlightened absolutist, then my number one priority would probably be universal healthcare. Nothing too fancy, but enough so that all Americans would be able to receive treatment for serious injuries and illnesses without having to worry about the cost.

June 2005: President Sheridan closes the borders.
July 2005: Construction of a huge wall along the country's land borders begins.
August 2006: This has been found to be not enough to keep out the filthy immigrants, so the sea borders are barriered too. Shame about the beaches.
February 2007: All the liberals are expelled to Canada.
April 2007: All the foreigners are expelled to Mexico, Canada, or shipped to Europe, dependent on race.
June 2007: All history textbooks in the country are destroyed.
July 2007: New ones are published. The USA goes to war with Eastasia, but is at peace with Eurasia.
November 2008: The USA's war with Eastasia, which has raged for over a hundred years, is showing no signs of letting up.
June 2009: President Sheridan is reelected by a landslide after promising to beat Eastasia.

I couldn't tell you what'd happen in my second term; can't really see that far ahead.

Only one thing I am not sure of, your line "I refuse to believe that people who have benefitted so much from their rapid development after we prevented the communist overthorw of the South." i am not clear on what this means.
Sorry, I'm tired and I sometimes miss bits of sentences. I think it mean to read "I refuse to believe that S. Korean people, who have benefitted so much from their rapid development after we prevented the communist overthrow of the South, would have wanted no involvement from us back in the 1950s." Is that better?

I couldn't tell you what'd happen in my second term; can't really see that far ahead.
June 2010: Implementation of the "1 Man, 1 Vote" system, whereby you are the man and you have the vote. Senate becomes the inner party, clerks enroled in new 'outer party'. First rocket bombs fall on US.

February 2011: Initiation of Airstrip 1 into Oceana. Oceana is now, and always has been, at war with Eurasia. First public dissenters against Sheridan, henceforth known as 'Surrogate Father'

August 2012: All dates eradicated henceforth. First Newspeak appears. Children now decanted rather than born - 'mother' and 'father' become rude words.

---20--: Productivity of Oceana now at peak. Surrogate father benevolently watches his people against the Eastasian hoardes.

(threw in a bit of Brave New World there for fun :p )

Sorry, I'm tired and I sometimes miss bits of sentences. I think it mean to read "I refuse to believe that S. Korean people, who have benefitted so much from their rapid development after we prevented the communist overthrow of the South, would have wanted no involvement from us back in the 1950s." Is that better?

Thanks, I just wasn't sure. Well, I agree they wanted our help, they certainly asked for it quickly enough, but that doesn't mean we should have. However, hindsight is always 20/20 and US leaders at the time couldn't have seen that supporting S. Korea and propping up their fledgling nation would turn around and bit us in the butt in the future.
I used to have a great liking for S. Korea. I was a huge Korean War buff and I admired their bravery in that war. I felt good about the US, Uk and Turkey standing with them against the N. Korean invasion. But since moving to Japan I have begun to dislike them quite a bit. They constantly bash Japan and complain about the US and Japan. Really a pack of whiners. They now officially annoy the hell out of me and I wish to shake them from the US diplomatic/military tree.

1.) Nuclear Fusion Power Plants. Why hello there virtually inexhaustable energy source!

will lead to

2.) Hydrogen Economy. Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engines. All of the Roar, none of the pollution.

will lead to

3.) Get the troops the hell away from the Middle east if they're still there. No Blood for Oil? Fine by me!

Then there's some other stuff.

4.) No donations to political parties from corporations. Fuck, no donations to political parties!

5.) Education Reform in a massive way.

6.) Stick a fork in Social Security. Perhaps come up with a working system.

7.) Raise Taxes :( Sorry, but it has to happen for the above 6 to happen.

1.) Nuclear Fusion Power Plants. Why hello there virtually inexhaustable energy source!

You may be waiting some time. Indeed, it probably wouldn't occur in your time in office.
will lead to

2.) Hydrogen Economy. Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engines. All of the Roar, none of the pollution.
Why will fusion lead to hydrogen fuel cells? Completely different process and the only real link is that they both use hydrogen.


5.) Education Reform in a massive way.How? What would you do to the education system that all previous govts. seem to have entirely missed?

6.) Stick a fork in Social Security. Perhaps come up with a working system.

7.) Raise Taxes :( Sorry, but it has to happen for the above 6 to happen. Raising taxes would be necessary for the fusion power plants too. You would be paying for much of the process leading to development of fusion.

You may be waiting some time. Indeed, it probably wouldn't occur in your time in office.

Why will fusion lead to hydrogen fuel cells? Completely different process and the only real link is that they both use hydrogen.

How? What would you do to the education system that all previous govts. seem to have entirely missed?

Raising taxes would be necessary for the fusion power plants too. You would be paying for much of the process leading to development of fusion.


Well, I'm never going to be PotUS, so this is all hypothetical, is it not? Even if I were to become PotUS, it would happen about 30-35 years from now, and that's conveniently when the first [Edit!: LARGE SCALE] Fusion reactor is expected to go online.

We already have Fusion (Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor) and we've had Hydrogen systems for a hell of a long time. The thing that's impeding a hydrogen economy right now is that creating hydrogen is (right now) a counterproductive process which involves more fossil fuel use to create the hydrogen and Thermodynamics #2 makes it so you're never going to get more hydrogen than what you put in for fossil fuel.

Let's now say that we have fusion plants which run on Deuterium (which we aren't running out of any time soon). Now Thermo #2 still applies, but the hydrogen we can produce is creating much less pollution (practically none, save a little radioactive lead) and strain on the energy cycle. At this point, we can create sufficient hydrogen to use for propelling more than just senior Mechanical Engineering projects. Thus, our dependency on the Middle East for petroleum is decreased and we can get the f- out. But I've been working a lot on theory lately, so maybe that's not realistic.

Obviously something's wrong with our education system that makes Americans at the bottom of industrialized countries on a lot of these tests of intelligence. I'm not an education expert, so I don't know what but they're obviously doing something right in Europe.

When I said that I would need to raise taxes for the first six to become possible, I meant numbers 1 through 6. Number one was the fusion plants, if I remember correctly.

Well, I'm never going to be PotUS, so this is all hypothetical, is it not? Even if I were to become PotUS, it would happen about 30-35 years from now, and that's conveniently when the first Fusion reactor is expected to go online.

We already have Fusion (Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor) and we've had Hydrogen systems for a hell of a long time. The thing that's impeding a hydrogen economy right now is that creating hydrogen is (right now) a counterproductive process which involves more fossil fuel use to create the hydrogen and Thermodynamics #2 makes it so you're never going to get more hydrogen than what you put in for fossil fuel.

Let's now say that we have fusion plants which run on Deuterium (which we aren't running out of any time soon). Now Thermo #2 still applies, but the hydrogen we can produce is creating much less pollution (practically none, save a little radioactive lead) and strain on the energy cycle. At this point, we can create sufficient hydrogen to use for propelling more than just senior Mechanical Engineering projects. Thus, our dependency on the Middle East for petroleum is decreased and we can get the f- out. But I've been working a lot on theory lately, so maybe that's not realistic.

Obviously something's wrong with our education system that makes Americans at the bottom of industrialized countries on a lot of these tests of intelligence. I'm not an education expert, so I don't know what but they're obviously doing something right in Europe.

When I said that I would need to raise taxes for the first six to become possible, I meant numbers 1 through 6. Number one was the fusion plants, if I remember correctly.
Sorry. I think I've overworked today. I'm abso-fucking-lutely shattered, I must hve misread that last bit. Thanks for explaining the rest though.

Sorry. I think I've overworked today. I'm abso-fucking-lutely shattered, I must hve misread that last bit. Thanks for explaining the rest though.
No problem. Nuclear power happens to be my forte, I like to explain it. :D

He he he, I have my list somewhere on these boards...

*searches*

FOUND IT!


(This is from one of my older threads)

I have noticed recently that the United States has lost alot of its sway in the world. Sure, we are still the only remaining superpower, but we enjoy NOWHERE near the support and respect we used too. During WWII, we were hailed as the conquerers of facism. During the Cold War, we were hailed as the defenders of Democracy and Capitalism. During the 90's, we were hailed as the people who had brought the world economy WAAAAAAY up. Now we are refered to as "those strange hill-billies who invade random countries just because we can."

I have come up with a way to restore the U.S.' glory and put us back on top.

I have outlined it here:

Step 1. Become President(if through democratic means go to step 2, if not go to 3.)

Step 2. Pull an Adolf Hitler on Congress, (otherwise known as have congress make you supreme dictator for life).

Step 3. Totally fix the economic system. Take some power away from the Corporations and give more to the workers and state.

Step 4. Enlarge the military.

Step 5. Make good ties with the world, pull out of Iraq, actually follow E.U. and U.N. advice.

Step 6. Wait until economy is it record high.

Step 7. Secretly fund and create a violent revolution in Quebec and the North-west Territories.

Step 8. Send forces to "assist" the Canadians put down the revolution.

Step 9. Turn on Canadians and take Ottowa.

Step 10. Take over all of Canada.

Step 11. Make Quebec and Newfoundland into the puppet-nation of French Canada, make the Northwest Territories into the puppet-state of Inuit-land(working title).

Step 12. Repair Canadian Economy and boost civil rights levels, while giving Canadians a basic level of democracy(a la Hong Kong).

Step 13. Wait until economy at another record high.

Step 14. Cross the Rio Grande and invade northern Mexico.

Step 15. Take Baja California.

Step 16. March on Mexico City.

Step 17. Make the southern-interior and south-western Pacific coast into the puppet-state of "Aztec Mexico", instate a puppet-Emperor.

Step 18. Re-name the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.

Step 19. Re-name The United States to be the "North American Empire".

Step 20. Make the three offical languages English, French, and Spanish.

Step 21. Institute reforms to increase the economy.

Step 22. Demolish the race barrier and make everyone a citizen.

Step 23. Build a Capital City in the Canadian Rockies. Name it "America City".

Step 24. Build a giant transportation system across all of the Empire.

Step 25. Sign decree that states after I die America becomes the "North American Republic", and holds free elections.

Step 26. Increase diplomatic ties with the world.

Step 27. Die rich, famous, powerful, and at peace with myself in knowing that I have created the greatest empire ever.

Final Borders of U.S. at time of Death:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/MyConquests.png
(The dark-blue areas are land directly under Imperial Control, the normal blue are puppet-states.)

And some people say im not creative!

The US-President is indeed much more of a king than any other Western Leader. It used to be less, but especially a conservative president these days can count on public opinion always swaying in his direction. The opposition is called a bunch of nay-sayers and worries enough about their image to stop doing their jobs.

So here is my plan:

1. Cut military spending by hmmm, 75%. Then reduce commitments of military nature around the world.
2. Increase commitment in the UN. Sick of fighting wars? Well, the UN was made to prevent them. So push for a reform there, quit giving the impression that the US uses it as a tool, rather cynically and things will change. The reson the UN is so ineffective right now is because the US is constantly changing things in its favour.
3. End all current trade treaties and begin making new, actual free-trade pacts with Africa, Asia, Europe, hell everyone. The Third World doesn't need aid, it just needs the chance to sell its exports fairly on the US and EU Markets. You'll see how fast things pick up.
4. Declare a friendship treaty with China. That land has, what, 5 times as many people and a huge economic upswing set to continue for a while. It is foolish to think China will not suceed the US as the super power. Rather than set us up for Cold War II, an alliance could benefit the whole planet.
5. Immediately sign the Kyoto Protocol and support all other environmental movements. You are not only cutting business off from carbon credit trading, you are also hurting long term economic growth.
6. Outlaw private donations to parties. Currently business interests are directing so much of US Policy into the wrong directions. Wasted money and effort.
7. The saved money from all of the above can go into public funding, ie education, social security, health care and all the rest of it.

You want to give North Korea, a nation with strong ties to China (as 31 pointed out), a nation which is possibly building a nuclear arsenal, a reason to fight. You are aware that all actions have consequences, right? We'd have another WWI style situation with a rapid chain of events leading to war, only this time one where we ALL could die.

China will not do a thing. China has no interest in N. Korea. Just agree to back off from Taiwan and leave the rest to economic interest.

N. Korea is in worse shape then Iraq was in the first Gulf war. Thier bombs will not hit shit and one to two bombs is not an arsenal.

1. I would stop purchasing oil from the middle eastern states and start drilling from the massive oil deposits that we have in the U.S.

(for you environmentalists (sp?) modern ways of drilling cause no damage to the enviornment and I would makes sure that there would be no drilling practices that harm the enviornment)

2. Take troops out of unnecessary areas ( we have many troops in eastern european countries)

3. Eliminate debt (drilling oil in our own country would help alot)

4. Make more allies so we wouldnt need to send out all the extra troops

5. Sell left over oil to other countries to make them non-dependent on OPEC and the middle eastern countries

6. What the people want

1.Get us out of the UN, NAFTA, the WTO, NATO, and all other entangling alliances.

2.Repeal all gun control laws.

3.Abolish all forms of social welfare, including Social Security.

4.Abolish all tariffs as well as all forms of corporate welfare.

5.Get rid of antitrust laws, minimum wage laws, and all business regulations.

6.Repeal the 17th Amendment.

7.Get rid of the income tax (I would return to the old system, where the
states were taxed in proportion to their population).

8.Get rid of the Federal Reserve.

9.Bring back the gold standard.

10.Abolish all departments except the Departments of Treasury, Defense, State, and Justice.

11.Break up the Department of Defense into the Departments of War and the Navy.

12.Return all our troops that are stationed abroad.

13.Pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq immediately, permanently, and completely.

14.Scrap all foreign aid programs permanently.

15.Return all illegal immigrants who have been in the country less than a year. Afterwards, ALL illegal immigrants who entered the country would be returned.

16.Limit the number of people who can immigrate to the U.S. in one year to 250,000.

17.Drastically increase border security, so no one could enter the country illegally.

18.Get back the Panama Canal.

19.Demand that Laos, Vietnam, North Korea, et. al. return all the POWs they're still holding, or suffer severe consequences.

20.Put Jimmy Carter on trial for crimes against humanity.

21.Severely restrict the CIA's power, so that it could only perform intelligence operations and not intervene in other nations' affairs.

22.Pursue a non-aligned, non-interventionist, laissez faire foreign policy.

23.Get Roe v. Wade repealed, so the states could decide for themselves what they wanted their abortion policies to be. Likewise, gay marriage (and marriage in general), civil rights, education, drug policies, law enforcement, church and state, and almost everything else- including paying for said things- would be left completely up to them.

24.Repeal all laws prohibiting the importation of prescription drugs from other countries.

25.Sharply decrease government spending in all areas except defense, which would be kept what it is unless we were threatened, in which case defense spending would increase.

26.Eliminate, or minimize as much as possible, the influence of corporations in politics.

27.Introduce a congressional amendment forbidding conscription into the armed forces.

28.Get rid of the reverse racism that is affirmative action. People should be picked based on abilities and character, not skin color, national origin, or whatever.

29.I would sharply lower the salaries of congressmen, senators, myself, and my staff.

30.I would greatly restrict the powers of the Republican and Democratic parties and strengthen those of other parties, to ensure that all political parties had just as much a say in the government as any other party, so people wouldn't always have to choose between the "lesser of two evils."

31.I would end all funding for science and the arts. Funding for them would have to come from state and local governments and/or private individuals.

32.I would shrink the government as much as possible.

33.The Martin Luther King holiday would be repealed and replaced with a Booker T. Washington holiday. President's Day would be replaced with Washington's birthday.

34.Once I was done performing all the aforesaid duties, I would resign from office and live in seclusion.

One thing everyone has missed -

Change the Star Spangled banner to the version arranged by Jimi Hendrix.

Most Excellent Libertopia


I like the cut of your jib, good sir.

WOW! to bad none of guys r actually the president some of those ideas would really help america! to bad bush is an idiot!

I like the cut of your jib, good sir.

Thanks! :D

Ok. Here goes.

1: Work to put in place alternative fuel cars. Offer tax incentives for purchases etc.
2: Work on developing our own supplies of oil from our own resources or resources from freindly nations. Assist Russia in tapping it reserves. The oil in the middle east will run out. That will leave The US, Russia, and some South American countries, and other non-OPEC nations the new big boys on the block. When this happens the economy of the middle east will collaps. What elese are they going to export? Sand?
3: Reorganise the military to be smaller and more efficent. Pull troops out of europe and asia. leaveing only a small force.
4: Push for all houseing in the US to be supplimented by solar power. Many houses can run quite well if supplimented by the sun. This would also begin to cut down on our dependancy of fossil fuels.
5: Dump NAFTA.
6: Better boarder security. Allow private voluteer groups to operate.
7: Give the States back thier rights. Gay marriage, drug laws, gun laws, these are all states rights issues and the feds should have not say in it.
8: Pull our allies closer and ease relations.
9: Bring hellfire on those that seek to harm us. Difinitively. It is easy for those who are not attacked to preace peace, not so easy when you are the target.

There are several more, just to tired to think of them now

1 allow people to choose how to invest their social security money (you screw up, you lose)

2 Flat tax, no deductions, would eliminnate 99% of the IRS

3 end subsidies to any foriegn country

4 end gun contral laws, strengthen private property laws (protecting property owners)

5 put ted kennedy in jail for murder

6 legalise all drugs, tax them, prohibit treatmant of drug overdoses (problem is self eliminating)

7 build huge wall and no-mans land on Mexican border with very strictly controlled border crossings

8 increase border patrol by a factor of 10 at least

9 finance move of the I hate the US society (the UN) to Paris, turn UN building into somthing useful, like a Prison or low income housing

10 No welfare untill we know the Daddies name and address, all of them

11 execute everyone invilved in public education administration at the national level (bit radical I know)

12 national law allowing police to shoot fleeing crimminals

13 offsetting penalties to corperations that send jobs overseas to save money

14 institute hard labor policy at prisons, like making big rocks into small rocks with hammers while chained to large iron balls for 8 hours a day

15 no more free college for prisoners

16 national language law requireing english as a national language

got more but no more time tonight

5. Privatize the post office.

several countries have tried this, been a failure in every one of them
the people who want to privatise the post office are people who would profit the most from the contracts that would come out of it, and would leave the Gov. still having to maintain service to places these private contractors deem "unprofitable", have you noticed that UPS now charges a "surcharge" if you want to have your package delivered outside of a large city or town?
UPS also does not deliver to Alaska, they hand the packages off to the Post office who has to provide service there under the universal service requirement

The Postal Service is the ONLY government service required by name in the US constitution and the Postal service has recieved NO tax money since 1984 and has to repay, with interest, any money it gets from the Government, even though it is part of the Gov.

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