NationStates Jolt Archive

I tried to set up a stateless entity, but the software apparently doesn't recognize such a thing. Even in a stateless society, the auto-generated description assumes there exists a corrupt government.

I quit. You may delete "Stateless Zone." This game is apparently a training ground for authoritarianism. Not that I'm surprised at all. :headbang:

ANARCHIST DOES NOT FORGIVE.

Hah, yeah. Who'd have thought a game called "NationStates" would force you to create a Nation. :p

I tried to set up a stateless entity, but the software apparently doesn't recognize such a thing. Even in a stateless society, the auto-generated description assumes there exists a corrupt government.

I quit. You may delete "Stateless Zone." This game is apparently a training ground for authoritarianism. Not that I'm surprised at all. :headbang:
of course it has "statist bias" its a game about being the government of a state.

i thought "statist bias" would have been pretty expected.

I carry my nation as technically anarchist....

(but those UN ratings are hard to change at my size)

Even in a stateless society, the auto-generated description assumes there exists a corrupt government.
Maybe it counts the mafia as a defacto government?

Who'd've thunk NationSTATES would force you to create a state?

Who'd've thunk NationSTATES would force you to create a state?
I think you assume too much of some people meboy

Never Assume it makes an ass out of you and me!

I think you assume too much of some people meboy

Never Assume it makes an ass out of you and me!
Pretty funny, considering Sdaeriji should be megirl, if adressed in such a way. :D

Never Assume it makes an ass out of you and me!

And there is no 'I' in team, only me!

I quit. You may delete "Stateless Zone." This game is apparently a training ground for authoritarianism. Not that I'm surprised at all. :headbang:

How could the game properly simulate a stateless society? Do you want to get a message saying "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!" whenever you make an issue decision?

The United Nations in real life has the same problem.

If you're not a nation state, you're on the list to be screwed.

Hey, that's how the system works! :rolleyes:

If you want to make a stateless society, what you need to do is:

1) Not come to NationStates.
2) Don't create a nation on NationStates.
3) Sit back and look at what you haven't created.

Pretty funny, considering Sdaeriji should be megirl, if adressed in such a way. :D
I dont follow....
And there is no 'I' in team, only me!
Thats what i live by the star player that i am!

I dont follow....
Isnt meboy colloquial for "my boy"? I certainly heard it in that context from irishmen, them often substituting me for my. Thus, considering that Sdaeriji is female, it should have been me girl or megirl.
Funny, now that i explain it, eh? :rolleyes:

Isnt meboy colloquial for "my boy"? I certainly heard it in that context from irishmen, them often substituting me for my. Thus, considering that Sdaeriji is female, it should have been me girl or megirl.
Funny, now that i explain it, eh? :rolleyes:

Especially funny since Sd' is actually not female.

Ah, layers of humour. How pretty they are.

Thus, considering that Sdaeriji is female, it should have been me girl or megirl.

LOL! Hahahaha!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Me/goatee.jpg

Yep, that's one sexy grrrrl there.

Isnt meboy colloquial for "my boy"? I certainly heard it in that context from irishmen, them often substituting me for my. Thus, considering that Sdaeriji is female, it should have been me girl or megirl.
Funny, now that i explain it, eh? :rolleyes:

ahahahahahahahahaha


Try the pics thread eh?

Especially funny since Sd' is actually not female.

Ah, layers of humour. How pretty they are.
Did you get a TG from me?
IS JesterIII insane?...
Or am i blind?

Argh! I hang my head in shame, as i confused Sdaeriji with another poster with a similiar sounding name. And she isnt even on this board. :headbang: Damn, working really dulls my brain. But being laughing stock is what jesters are about. ;)

Argh! I hang my head in shame, as i confused Sdaeriji with another poster with a similiar sounding name. And she isnt even on this board. :headbang: Damn, working really dulls my brain. But being laughing stock is what jesters are about. ;)

Sdaeriji is still one hot chick though.

Haha. You tried to set up a STATELESS entity on NationSTATES.

gg no re!

I tried to set up a stateless entity, but the software apparently doesn't recognize such a thing. Even in a stateless society, the auto-generated description assumes there exists a corrupt government.

I quit. You may delete "Stateless Zone." This game is apparently a training ground for authoritarianism. Not that I'm surprised at all. :headbang:

OMG! It's almost as if the player is supposed to control the country. Did you want a non-interactive game? Next we'll be finding out that it's based on political satire, rather than a place for n00bs to tell the general forum that they don't like playing.

OMG! It's almost as if the player is supposed to control the country. Did you want a non-interactive game? Next we'll be finding out that it's based on political satire, rather than a place for n00bs to tell the general forum that they don't like playing.

Give this man a cookie

*Cookie duely offered*

Give this man a cookie

*Cookie duely offered*

*and gratefully accepted*

OMG! It's almost as if the player is supposed to control the country. Did you want a non-interactive game? Next we'll be finding out that it's based on political satire, rather than a place for n00bs to tell the general forum that they don't like playing.

You win the internet.

I don't wanna be a statist, I wanna be a pirate.

If you want to make a stateless society, what you need to do is:

1) Not come to NationStates.
2) Don't create a nation on NationStates.
3) Sit back and look at what you haven't created.

You see, this one is my favorite witty comeback on this thread. Come to think of it, that's basically what this thread is good for. Can we make a poll? Which devestatingly witty comeback is best?

I tried to set up a stateless entity, but the software apparently doesn't recognize such a thing. Even in a stateless society, the auto-generated description assumes there exists a corrupt government.

I quit. You may delete "Stateless Zone." This game is apparently a training ground for authoritarianism. Not that I'm surprised at all. :headbang:

You do realize that this game is about governing a nation, right? And you understand that this would render a nation with no government meaningless, since the whole point of the game is to make government decision? Just asking

You do realize that this game is about governing a nation, right? And you understand that this would render a nation with no government meaningless, since the whole point of the game is to make government decision? Just asking

I am trying to govern a can of corned beef, not a nation.

Non-state entities never exist in isolation from a nation.

You should have created a nation of the sort which could be expected to give rise to the desired non-state entity, and role-played that.

But, omfg, that would have required evaluating constraints imposed by game mechanics.

Isnt meboy colloquial for "my boy"? I certainly heard it in that context from irishmen, them often substituting me for my. Thus, considering that Sdaeriji is female, it should have been me girl or megirl.
Funny, now that i explain it, eh?

Especially funny since Sd' is actually not female.

Ah, layers of humour. How pretty they are.

LOL! Hahahaha!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Me/goatee.jpg

Yep, that's one sexy grrrrl there.

ahahahahahahahahaha


Try the pics thread eh?


Argh! I hang my head in shame, as i confused Sdaeriji with another poster with a similiar sounding name. And she isnt even on this board. :headbang: Damn, working really dulls my brain. But being laughing stock is what jesters are about. ;)

Jesus. I leave for a few hours, and look at the bananary that results. Can't I leave you people alone at all? :D

Sdaeriji is still one hot chick though.

Thank you sweetie. You're pretty scorchin' yourself.

In defense of the original posters..I must say that this game treats its simulated citizens like utter morons..basically at the mercy to react the same way to whatever the state does. The simulated citizens don't have a brain to improve their own lives..so that is where I see that statist bias.

The United Nations in real life has the same problem.

If you're not a nation state, you're on the list to be screwed.

Hey, that's how the system works! :rolleyes:


That's actually fair enough considering what it is. They even call it United Nations; not world government HQ, or United Peoples.

In defense of the original posters..I must say that this game treats its simulated citizens like utter morons..basically at the mercy to react the same way to whatever the state does. The simulated citizens don't have a brain to improve their own lives..so that is where I see that statist bias.
How can you give people free will in a primitive Java game?

(Ugh. I can't give the answer I want to give because no matter how hard I try to phrase it, I end up revealing game mechanics.)

It boils down to, the condition of the people is determined by the states of a group of variables, and they can only 'react' in a way for which there is a variable and an equation. So a tax increase will result in less money and perhaps a better public service, but never the spontaneous formation of a new pressure group.

It's an unsatisfactory answer, but I am too fearful for my nation's 4.1bn people to elaborate. :(

You can see though, that giving a nation's people a realistic unpredictability would be too difficult. The Statist Bias is imposed by the medium, the fact that this game has to be text-based and run on a browser.

In defense of the original posters..I must say that this game treats its simulated citizens like utter morons..basically at the mercy to react the same way to whatever the state does. The simulated citizens don't have a brain to improve their own lives..so that is where I see that statist bias.

And in defense of us mocking him, this game doesn't pretend to be anything else. It quite clearly is supposed to be a satirical, over-exaggerated version of running a nation. To complain about NS not being realistic enough for your tastes is a little ridiculous.

Hahahaha, I almost blew snot all over my monitor over the whole Sdaeriji man/woman thing. Good stuff.

Hahahaha, I almost blew snot all over my monitor over the whole Sdaeriji man/woman thing. Good stuff.

You know what confuses me the most about the whole thing?


Argh! I hang my head in shame, as i confused Sdaeriji with another poster with a similiar sounding name.

Who the hell has a similar sounding name to me? Even I don't know how to pronounce my nation name.

Even I don't know how to pronounce my nation name.
It is quite easily pronounced in Russian, probably any slavic tongue, so long as the S is pronounced as a Z.

Jesus. I leave for a few hours, and look at the bananary that results. Can't I leave you people alone at all? :D

Thank you sweetie. You're pretty scorchin' yourself.
ROFLMFAO!!!! Of all the threads I've read recently, this one takes the cake! Kudos! :D

Who the hell has a similar sounding name to me? Even I don't know how to pronounce my nation name.


And she isnt even on this board. :headbang:

:)

I agree with the original poster's premise. I'm not trying to create an anarchy, but I thought a limited-government economical powerhouse would be fun to run. Every time I choose the small-government, non-interfering options, my economy somehow gets worse. WTF? I thought not over-regulating people's lives was supposed to help the economy.

Edit: note that I'm using "statist" in the sense of state-run, state-provided, state-centric solutions.

WTF? I thought not over-regulating people's lives was supposed to help the economy.
So did the Republican Party. :p

Sorry, couldn't resist that.

You know what confuses me the most about the whole thing?



Who the hell has a similar sounding name to me? Even I don't know how to pronounce my nation name.

I have no idea, man. No idea. Hahahaha.

So did the Republican Party. :p

Sorry, couldn't resist that.

I don't get it. The US economy's doing great, at least I thought it was. World Factbook said 4.4% growth rate for 2004.

I tried to set up a stateless entity, but the software apparently doesn't recognize such a thing. Even in a stateless society, the auto-generated description assumes there exists a corrupt government.

I quit. You may delete "Stateless Zone." This game is apparently a training ground for authoritarianism. Not that I'm surprised at all. :headbang:


You will also find that the decisions you make on Nationstates don't have a hell of a lot to do with the way it would work IRL... consequence-wise... :p

I don't get it. The US economy's doing great, at least I thought it was. World Factbook said 4.4% growth rate for 2004.
Nope. It's doing shitty compared to what it used to be.

I am trying to govern a can of corned beef, not a nation.
Hows that working?
Do you discriminate against Mustard?