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I have seen an increasing number of new nations in this forum recently-probably due to summer vacation. If you are new to the forums, there are some things you should know. I will only list three, but I'm sure there are other things other people will want to add.

(1) This isn't a democracy, this is a privately owned forum. The moderators of this forum have every right to ban you for no reason whatsoever. Most likely, they will not, but they do have that right.
(2) There are rules. These rules are posted in plain sight, and if you choose not to read them, you are only hurting yourself.
(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

I have seen an increasing number of new nations in this forum recently-probably due to summer vacation. If you are new to the forums, there are some things you should know. I will only list three, but I'm sure there are other things other people will want to add.

(1) This isn't a democracy, this is a privately owned forum. The moderators of this forum have every right to ban you for no reason whatsoever. Most likely, they will not, but they do have that right.
(2) There are rules. These rules are posted in plain sight, and if you choose not to read them, you are only hurting yourself.
(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

While I tend to agree with you on most things you say, I do disagree on point 3. Respect is earned, and should never be freely given. If you don't respect your elder poster, at least consider their advice, though.

You forgot to tell them about the mandatory 'Myrth' option for all polls.

I have seen an increasing number of new nations in this forum recently-probably due to summer vacation. If you are new to the forums, there are some things you should know. I will only list three, but I'm sure there are other things other people will want to add.

(1) This isn't a democracy, this is a privately owned forum. The moderators of this forum have every right to ban you for no reason whatsoever. Most likely, they will not, but they do have that right.
(2) There are rules. These rules are posted in plain sight, and if you choose not to read them, you are only hurting yourself.
(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

I definitely disagree with the third one. I'd hate for someone to respect me because I've been here for longer... I don't respect someone who has been here a bit longer than I have. The other two be fair enough.

I have seen an increasing number of new nations in this forum recently-probably due to summer vacation. If you are new to the forums, there are some things you should know. I will only list three, but I'm sure there are other things other people will want to add.

(1) This isn't a democracy, this is a privately owned forum. The moderators of this forum have every right to ban you for no reason whatsoever. Most likely, they will not, but they do have that right.
(2) There are rules. These rules are posted in plain sight, and if you choose not to read them, you are only hurting yourself.
(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

RESPECT ME!!!!11!!

(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.
I agree with everything but this, even though I have a relatively high post count and an ass old founding date. All it really means is that we've managed to not find anything else to do and have posted without getting caught breaking the rules for a long time. We can still be anything anyone else can be, obnoxious, jerks, talking-out-of-our-asses, etc. Posts should be judged on content, not on the posters stats.

But I'm with ya for the most part. At the very least, if a poster has been around a while they might know things like where threads go or what kind of thread is likely to get locked.

RESPECT ME!!!!11!!
*Bows down to superior poster.*
*Mutters under breath* Dammit... :p

(2) There are rules. These rules are posted in plain sight, and if you choose not to read them, you are only hurting yourself.

Well, the best way to hide something is to put it in plain sight ;)

(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

Surely it would make sense that nations older then yours are your elder, no?

Anyway, respect should be earned rather then automatically demanded because of some arbitary reason like post count or age.

*Bows down to superior poster.*
*Mutters under breath* Dammit... :p

lol

Also, I should add that some people with a large number of posts may have them because they're rather spamtastic, especially those who haven't been around for a while. I've been around for over a year now (not too long compared to a number of people, I know), but I've only recently really started posting in the forums. So post count may not be a good determinate for one's "elder" status.

Before everyone disagrees with me all at once, remember that I have never been banned from this forum-I don't think I've ever even had to be warned by the mods. Why? Because I follow these rules religiously.

And i object to that too considering i am certainly more elderly than some of the heavier posters on this forum... But then again... What was my point, i'm afriad i've actually forgotten. Safe to say, i object!

Here's another rule:

Don't talk about politics. Even in a political forum. ;)

Before everyone disagrees with me all at once, remember that I have never been banned from this forum-I don't think I've ever even had to be warned by the mods. Why? Because I follow these rules religiously.
I have not respected the 3rd one ever :) and not even an informal warning on my part either

*Bows down to superior poster.*
*Mutters under breath* Dammit... :p
HEHEHE :) at least you dont have to bow down before a random spammer ... I dont do thoes "social" threads :)

now of course i am one of the newbies of which you speak, but i'd like to make a suggestion on number three.

show respect to everyone, and more if they happen to know what they're talking about. basically, if what someone says is good then show extra respect based on content. if it is wrong, respectfully correct or post your own point of view. anyone who reacts negatively to that probably doesnt really deserve the respect, but at least you tried.

that work?

YES! Thats far better... what a fabulous Idea for me to come up with and then allow you to post for yourself.

Let us all congratulate me for coming up with that idea and not Squirrel Brothers.

PS. It is actually the correct solution :P. Thats why i want it for myself.

now of course i am one of the newbies of which you speak, but i'd like to make a suggestion on number three.

show respect to everyone, and more if they happen to know what they're talking about. basically, if what someone says is good then show extra respect based on content. if it is wrong, respectfully correct or post your own point of view. anyone who reacts negatively to that probably doesnt really deserve the respect, but at least you tried.

that work?
That'll certainly keep you out of trouble, if nothing else.

Don't talk about politics. Even in a political forum. ;)
Don't spew nonsense about politics.

Talk is fine. Try to keep it witin sight of something resembling fact, though. We don't like trolls.

ive never looked at any of the rules, i just know not to slag people off

[Posts to check if he still has the absurd postcount]

EDIT: ph43r me!!! :rolleyes:

Do not assume that every nation with a low post-count and small population is a newb. Some of us have been around for years. Some of us might have even posted in this thread already under a different name, and simply be proving a point.

ive never looked at any of the rules, i just know not to slag people off

Thats just stupid... i hate you...

No seriously (im afraid i couldnt resist)

Look all ye unanointed unto Nadkor who will lead you to the promised land of not hacing threads descend into annoying flame fights. Try to be more like Nadkor... well posting-wise anyway.

Don't spew nonsense about politics.

Talk is fine. Try to keep it witin sight of something resembling fact, though. We don't like trolls.

IE Bush is a Nazi, Liberals/Conservatives/Gays/Straigts/Americans are idiots.

(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

Empty vessels make the most noise.

Do not assume that every nation with a low post-count and small population is a newb. [snip]
No, I would never assume that. Some of you are puppets. :p

Seriously, I was on Nationstates several months before I tried the forums, and General is the only place I've posted. I understand that some nations might have existed longer than they have started posting, but I meant newbies in the context of the forum, and I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear enough.

IE Bush is a Nazi, Liberals/Conservatives/Gays/Straigts/Americans are idiots.
Oh, and (4) try not to let spelling mistakes bother you too much. If you do succumb to the overwhelming urge to correct spelling, be sure to be apologetic/humorous about it.

Thats just stupid... i hate you...

No seriously (im afraid i couldnt resist)

Look all ye unanointed unto Nadkor who will lead you to the promised land of not hacing threads descend into annoying flame fights. Try to be more like Nadkor... well posting-wise anyway.
oh be quiet :p

Yah, i too must disagree with the third rule. mainly because i think my opinion is equal to that of someone who has been here a long long time. those who have posted a bajillion times don't deserve automatic respect but neither do thsoe new at this thing deserve to be automatically discounted.

Oh, and (4) try not to let spelling mistakes bother you too much. If you do succumb to the overwhelming urge to correct spelling, be sure to be apologetic/humorous about it.

:p It was one word....

I would be one of the newbies of which you speak. I've only been here a few months, and I don't post often, but I tend to lurk around the forums and read a lot of the threads.

Trolls are amusing. We like to keep them in cages and mock them while NOT directly addressing them. Please note that feeding the trolls is heavily frowned upon and will result in the state of a flame war and the mods getting very angry and banning everyone left, right and centre!

Oh, and (4) try not to let spelling mistakes bother you too much. If you do succumb to the overwhelming urge to correct spelling, be sure to be apologetic/humorous about it.
For this I'll give an "AMEN" and even a "TESTIFY!!"

Yeah, I'm not sure number of posts matters. I've been here two weeks and almost hit 500. Just depends on whether or not you're as obnoxious as I am.

Yeah, I'm not sure number of posts matters. I've been here two weeks and almost hit 500. Just depends on whether or not you're as obnoxious as I am.

Or as opinionated (meaning the this is a place for opinionated people). I tend to respect really prolific posters, but I have to remind myself that for every intelligible post there is a stupid one.

now of course i am one of the newbies of which you speak, but i'd like to make a suggestion on number three.

show respect to everyone, and more if they happen to know what they're talking about. basically, if what someone says is good then show extra respect based on content. if it is wrong, respectfully correct or post your own point of view. anyone who reacts negatively to that probably doesnt really deserve the respect, but at least you tried.

that work?

Works for me. Rather like the old rule I was taught growing up - treat woman like a lady and everyman as a gentleman, until they prove otherwise.

I have seen an increasing number of new nations in this forum recently-probably due to summer vacation. If you are new to the forums, there are some things you should know. I will only list three, but I'm sure there are other things other people will want to add.

(1) This isn't a democracy, this is a privately owned forum. The moderators of this forum have every right to ban you for no reason whatsoever. Most likely, they will not, but they do have that right.
(2) There are rules. These rules are posted in plain sight, and if you choose not to read them, you are only hurting yourself.
(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.I disagree with #3. There are a whole lot of people with fewer posts than me who don't treat me with respect, and I see no reason why I should respect anyone with more posts than me. Or why I should respect anyone at all for that matter. My respect for posters like Tink goes down every time they post in the spam forum.

Normally you also have to have been here a while. I've been here for about 2-3 months, and have more posts than The Blaatschapen who's been here 3 years. But our Dutch friend probably knows the rules better than I do and hasn't flamed, trolled, flamebaited, etc. (all of which I've nearly done and escaped the Heavy Hammer of Mod by the skin of my teeth).

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Yeah, I'm not sure number of posts matters. I've been here two weeks and almost hit 500. Just depends on whether or not you're as obnoxious as I am.I am. ;)

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

The n00b cutoff is everyone below 5000 posts and 2 years.


It has been that way ever since my nation turned 2 on May 23rd.

The n00b cutoff is everyone below 5000 posts and 2 years.
That includes a lot of people. Including me. :mad:

(And Moleland, and Harlesburg, and Ariddia, and...perhaps Salusa! :eek:)

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

Raw numbers don't grant the right to neither respect, nor disrespect. I say every user, regardless of join date and post count, deserves respect, until they themselves prove otherwise. And then it's up to the mods to deal with them.

Stop using the :mp5: and :sniper:

Its really getting on my nerves

(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.
similarly, older posters, don't disrespect or put down noobs just because they are new and you don't know their opinions yet. i've been doing a bit of that recently and i realy shouldn't :(

(4) all noobs must hail TInk or suffer torture in her n00b dungeon ;)

(5) with respect to the new "fad" of political parties, if there's already a party that represents most of your views, please don't go start another one based only on small differences. join the party, suggest your changes, just accept the differences in opinon, or if its really too much go start your own party... just don't do that as your first option

(6) actually thats an important one. respect others opinons, always. you may disagree with whats said but the other poster has a right to say it, and don't forget they are real people on the other end of the keyboard, so play nice.
that is unless its obvious trolling... in which case have fun :D


edit: ah sod the numbers

The n00b cutoff is everyone below 5000 posts and 2 years.

ha! *is not a noob*

and i'm just over a year old ;)

Stop using the :mp5: and :sniper:

Its really getting on my nerves
Dont forget the :gundge: *wow 7 k posts and this is the FIRST time I have used this smily (and none for the other 2 you posted)

Dont forget the :gundge: *wow 7 k posts and this is the FIRST time I have used this smily (and none for the other 2 you posted)
these should all be banned:

:sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :headbang:

*shudders*

ha! *is not a noob*

and i'm just over a year old ;)


That's 2 FULL years n00blah.


I think that leaves me, Catholic Europe, TIN and a few others.

Do not assume that every nation with a low post-count and small population is a newb. Some of us have been around for years. Some of us might have even posted in this thread already under a different name, and simply be proving a point.
And some of us just keep getting deleted.

That's 2 FULL years n00blah.


I think that leaves me, Catholic Europe, TIN and a few others.
damn! i thought you meant 5000 posts and/or 2 years :(

Ah yes, the newbies.


I would just like to say, whereas I <b>look</b> like a newbie to many, the real O.G.s know that I am not.

I joined in June of 2003. I had over 10k posts, but some of the threads got deleted in moderator fury. Oh lordy.


I just got super busy with school and decided to have a wonderful, non-computer life for the past couplee months. Howeverrrrrrr... the General forums are mine. Don't confuse me for a newbie. (I know you weren't directing this thread at me or whatever, I'm just trying to avoid confusion)

It's always fun watching the kids roll in for the summer and watch them trash their elders in the new found wonder of Nationstates. Ha.

That's 2 FULL years n00blah.


I think that leaves me, Catholic Europe, TIN and a few others.

*tap tap* *cough*


Hi. I hate having a new join date. It makes me look like un bebe. I am not! I just had a life for a little while and my nation died and I tried to resurect it but no one helped

That's 2 FULL years n00blah.


I think that leaves me, Catholic Europe, TIN and a few others.
I've almost got a full two years :p and well over that requiste post number! And n00bs are those under a year, who act like morons, regardless of post count.

lol

Also, I should add that some people with a large number of posts may have them because they're rather spamtastic, especially those who haven't been around for a while. I've been around for over a year now (not too long compared to a number of people, I know), but I've only recently really started posting in the forums. So post count may not be a good determinate for one's "elder" status.
That's very true. I've been playing NationStates for a few years now, but have also only recently started posting in the forums. (I actually posted a few times under some of my previous nations on the old server.) Calling someone a "n00b" just because the have a low post count is rather inane.

(4) all noobs must hail TInk or suffer torture in her n00b dungeon ;)
Great. 24/7 webcam boob shots and fluffles. I'll probably puke myself to death. :rolleyes:

(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

Yeah, right. I have more posts than you, but does that really mean anything?

Shouldn't we treat everyone with respect?

Yes, there have been a million newbies. Most of whom I bid welcome..that is except to the really strange republican(irish rep not usa) group that have suddenly appeared....ah well guess they won't be stuck for cash this summer!!

now of course i am one of the newbies of which you speak, but i'd like to make a suggestion on number three.

show respect to everyone, and more if they happen to know what they're talking about. basically, if what someone says is good then show extra respect based on content. if it is wrong, respectfully correct or post your own point of view. anyone who reacts negatively to that probably doesnt really deserve the respect, but at least you tried.

that work?
The only problem with this is that a majority of posters post about things they know nothing about. ;)

The only problem with this is that a majority of posters post about things they know nothing about. ;)
Whatcho talkin bout willis

That's very true. I've been playing NationStates for a few years now, but have also only recently started posting in the forums. (I actually posted a few times under some of my previous nations on the old server.) Calling someone a "n00b" just because the have a low post count is rather inane.
Indeed, it seems rather counterintuitive. I mean, what ever happened to the statement of "Quality not Quantity." Using the current formula, someone could make 1,999 fluffles and then one flame and now they're a veteran message board poster? How interesting. I think the passage should much like the somethingawful.com system. Don't post for 3 months (just read), and if you can post in a method that does not grant you the title 'moron' you may enjoy your stay.

How interesting. I think the passage should much like the somethingawful.com system. Don't post for 3 months (just read), and if you can post in a method that does not grant you the title 'moron' you may enjoy your stay.
LMAO! Problem is...with this forum...even after 3 months...more than half the forum members would get deleted. ;)

LMAO! Problem is...with this forum...even after 3 months...more than half the forum members would get deleted. ;)

Including yourself, obviously.

;)

[Posts to check if he still has the absurd postcount]

EDIT: ph43r me!!! :rolleyes:

Aww, 8300 posts. How cute. :D

That's 2 FULL years n00blah.


I think that leaves me, Catholic Europe, TIN and a few others.

What were you saying, youngun?

I definitely disagree with the third one. I'd hate for someone to respect me because I've been here for longer... I don't respect someone who has been here a bit longer than I have. The other two be fair enough.
Respect me, or I will pass among you with a baseball bat! :D

Being a "noob" isn't about post count or length of tenure. It's an attitude. There are some 2002 nations who still act like noobs, and there are people with four, five, or six thousand posts who still act like noobs. You know them when you see them.

What were you saying, youngun?
Soun' like a case of de pot callin' de kettle "black" to me! :D

Soun' like a case of de pot callin' de kettle "black" to me! :D

I've been around these here parts a lot longer than you, young one. :D

*tap tap* *cough*


Hi. I hate having a new join date. It makes me look like un bebe. I am not! I just had a life for a little while and my nation died and I tried to resurect it but no one helped
And who might you be?

So I can pay my proper respect and all...

Being a "noob" isn't about post count or length of tenure. It's an attitude. There are some 2002 nations who still act like noobs, and there are people with four, five, or six thousand posts who still act like noobs. You know them when you see them.

You talking about me?

*very nervous, loud voice*

I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ME!!!

*dies of a heart attack*

ha! all you oldies are gonna die before me anyway!

there i said it on behalf of all immature n00bs everywhere ;)

And who might you be?

So I can pay my proper respect and all...

Avia, perhaps?

I've been around these here parts a lot longer than you, young one. :D
"Young one???" :eek:

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

ha! all you oldies are gonna die before me anyway!

there i said it on behalf of all immature n00bs everywhere ;)

:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper:

:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper:
l0lz0r :p

Avia, perhaps?
I would say this is a safe assumption...

Darm computer settings that force me to scroll to look at names. :headbang:

l0lz0r :p
Speak English, young dweeb! :p

Hi every1 im a immature noob i jus joined 2day so i guess that means every1s my elder.

Hi every1 im a immature noob i jus joined 2day so i guess that means every1s my elder.
Wow, way to flout the 4th rule - spelling! Yeesh! Read the first post BEFORE you post! :rolleyes:

EDITED TEXT -->
Hi everyone. I'm an immature n00b. I just joined today, so that means that everyone here is my elder.

Note the use of punctuation. Do you see how I have masterfully integrated commas and periods into the paragraph to make the long sentence a set of smaller ones?

Now, then there is spelling... That awful AOL speak is heavily frowned upon here. We don't kindly take to those chat abbreviations. Full words are preferred here. Also, proper spelling is extremely encouraged here.

Typos are accepted as a part of life.

Including yourself, obviously.

;)
I never said I wasn't part of that list. :p

I never said I wasn't part of that list. :p

I see that... Now.

*shifts eyes*

I see that... Now.

*shifts eyes*
http://www.dasmusik.net/forums/images/smilies/look.gif

When you're on the conservitive side of this forum, you have to get respect any way you can, so I'm all for number three :)

When you're on the conservitive side of this forum, you have to get respect any way you can, so I'm all for number three :)
Bullshit. I'd rather be FEARED than respected.

:p

hmmm... maybe I sould become a mod... http://www.dasmusik.net/forums/images/smilies/look.gif

:p

(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

lol

(4) all noobs must hail TInk or suffer torture in her n00b dungeon ;)

PM- i remember when she was a newbie. seriously. my previous nation could have been her mommy.
i mean she's cool and all, but wtf does everyone worship her so fricken much?
the worship committee reminds me of danya, before her drama stunts and faked suicides.

bah. appearances are decieving.

PM- i remember when she was a newbie. seriously. my previous nation could have been her mommy.
i mean she's cool and all, but wtf does everyone worship her so fricken much?
the worship committee reminds me of danya, before her drama stunts and faked suicides.

bah. appearances are decieving.
I'll refrain from commenting on TInK because I'd probably get deleted.

Let's just say there's a definite reason I said she should dye her hair blonde (in that other thread).

Whatever. TiNK isn't that great. JUst another user.

now of course i am one of the newbies of which you speak, but i'd like to make a suggestion on number three.

show respect to everyone, and more if they happen to know what they're talking about. basically, if what someone says is good then show extra respect based on content. if it is wrong, respectfully correct or post your own point of view. anyone who reacts negatively to that probably doesnt really deserve the respect, but at least you tried.

that work?

I agree! There isn't enough respect going around now, not like back in the old days when people showed respect to everyone that deserved it.

We should be respectful to everyone without needing a reason like number of posts or join date - none of these are relevant as far as i'm concerned.

Whatever. TiNK isn't that great. JUst another user.

Those damn junkies get everywhere :p

3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

Just because someone has less posts than you makes their opinion mean less or what they know about a subject have worse reliability than yours?

Respect me, or I will pass among you with a baseball bat! :D

I believe you mean "pass a kidney stone". ;) Just kiddin', Eutrusca.

Also, shouldn't there be a "read at least the first 5 pages of a debate thread before posting" rule?

Respect me, or I will pass among you with a baseball bat! :D

All right there, grim, keep your socks on. You get respect because you're funny. That and you made the party I almost agreed with most. And you're a secret liberal. You just don't like to admit it. I'll get you out the closet.

What were you saying, youngun?

I knew I was forgetting someone O_o



I can trip kids up with my walking stick just as good as you can and you know it.

I believe you mean "pass a kidney stone". ;) Just kiddin', Eutrusca.

Also, shouldn't there be a "read at least the first 5 pages of a debate thread before posting" rule?
What, and let it degrade into a flamewar about friendly fire or strawberries vs cherries or something! Aw hell nah, dawg. Everyone jump in there and shoot off your one liner on the first page because that's what everyone responds to ;)

I believe you mean "pass a kidney stone". ;) Just kiddin', Eutrusca.

Also, shouldn't there be a "read at least the first 5 pages of a debate thread before posting" rule?

It depends on how many replies per page you have the forum set to...

I have seen an increasing number of new nations in this forum recently-probably due to summer vacation. If you are new to the forums, there are some things you should know. I will only list three, but I'm sure there are other things other people will want to add.

(1) This isn't a democracy, this is a privately owned forum. The moderators of this forum have every right to ban you for no reason whatsoever. Most likely, they will not, but they do have that right.
(2) There are rules. These rules are posted in plain sight, and if you choose not to read them, you are only hurting yourself.
(3) You can consider anyone with more posts than you your elder in this forum, and you are expected to treat your forum elders with respect.

Something tells me that you were "line leader" and "homework monitor" back in grade school.

Two things: I'm older than you; get over yourself, it's not all that important.

Something tells me that you were "line leader" and "homework monitor" back in grade school.

Two things: I'm older than you; get over yourself, it's not all that important.
Thank you.

I was waiting for someone to say that... I was too busy nitpicking douchey spelling. :D

I believe you mean "pass a kidney stone". ;) Just kiddin', Eutrusca.
ow oW OW!!! NOT funny! That shit hurts! How do I know? Because I've passed one. FUCK that hurt! NOT cool.

It depends on how many replies per page you have the forum set to...

True..how about the first 25 to 50 posts, then?