NationStates Jolt Archive

For the sake of clarity, here is a list of all political parties currently existing, with links both to their original debate thread, and to their manifesto for those who've got one.

I would like to remind new party founders of the basic principles. Your manifesto should be the expression of your party's consensus. Don't set out a full list of detailed policies then expect people to join and adhere to them; rather, give a general indication of your policies (here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608)), wait for people to join you, then work out your manifesto together with your fellow members.

You will need an official manifesto, at least ten full lines in length, in order to stand in any election.

Use this thread to post a link to your party, and I will add that link to this post/list. This list will be kept up to date, and any party that goes defunct will be removed from it.

* Cult of TInk Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418619) (manifesto (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418619); defunct)
* Democratic Socialist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418666) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418666))
* Emphatically Silly Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424490)
* Imperial Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424822)
* Mole and Other Burrowing Rodents Alliance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418621) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418621))
* NS Classic Liberals (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418625) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8941512&postcount=208))
* NS Conservative Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443877) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443877))
* NS Meritocratic Representative Republicans (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423046) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423046); defunct)
* NS Moderate Conservative Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423962&page=1)
* NS Monarchist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444869) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444869))
* NS National Classical Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424949)
* Party of Order (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418844) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418844&page=1&pp=15); defunct)
* Party of Whatever Works (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418852) (manifesto (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420124); defunct)
* Reason Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423022) (formerly the "Up yours!" Party; manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423022))
* Revolutionary Trotskyist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418688) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=422701))
* United Democratic Communist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610))

You forgot our party!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423962&page=1

You forgot our party!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423962&page=1

I didn't "forget" anything. As I said, this thread is for new parties to come and post a link to their party thread, which I then add to the list. I'm no longer going around searching for every new party which appears, as I did before the election.

Your party has been added.

Well done on getting a party up and active so quickly, by the way.

BUMP.

If you want your party to be officially recognised, post a link to it here.

tag.

vote UDCP!

tag.

vote UDCP!

It may have escaped your notice, but the election is over

tag. overthrow the system

It may have escaped your notice, but the election is over
Perhaps so, but there's always the next election to think about! :D

Perhaps so, but there's always the next election to think about! :D
fzaktly

fzaktlyBut thats ages away. Three months i think, maybe four.

Hey somebody in the meritocratic republicans thread on page 2 or 3 said the UDCP was the most communist party and that we were anti freedom of speech. I was fucken annoyed

Hey somebody in the meritocratic republicans thread on page 2 or 3 said the UDCP was the most communist party and that we were anti freedom of speech. I was fucken annoyed

DHomme - what differentiates the Revolutionary Trotskyist Party and the United Democratic Communist Party?

If there is little to divide the two, why don't we consider an alliance of some sort?

EDIT - Just read that "the UDCP opposes violent revolution." I understand the non-alliance now. Typical liberal pacifists! :mad:

DHomme - what differentiates the Revolutionary Trotskyist Party and the United Democratic Communist Party?

If there is little to divide the two, why don't we consider an alliance of some sort?

The major difference between the two is reform vs. revolution

They also want to create an alliance with the COTP and the DSP though, and if that goes through then the RTP would be resorting to popular front which would mean the working-class demands would be reduced. By itself an alliance with the COTP I dont think we'd be opposed to, but with the liberals in there I don't think it will work

I was considering bringing the Ewok Raving Hamster Party to this forum, but I just don't think it would get much voting action...

I was considering bringing the Ewok Raving Hamster Party to this forum, but I just don't think it would get much voting action...

LOL

Feel free to if you want. As long as you have members and you can come up with a manifesto.


EDIT - Just read that "the UDCP opposes violent revolution." I understand the non-alliance now. Typical liberal pacifists!


Our view is that communism can only be sustained if it is achieved through consensus. It pre-supposes an evolution in mentalities. Thus a violent revolution would be self-defeating, because you would be forcibly imposing communism on people who are not ready, and it would never work. People would still be selfish, and would simply resist. In fact it wouldn't be communism, because communism can only exist if it is sustained by the will of the people. Anything else would devolve into a state-socialist dictatorship.

you would be forcibly imposing communism on people who are not ready

You would be forcing communism on some people - the former exploiters! The dictatorship of the proletariat is an expansion of democracy. It is when the majority of the population are in control of society. One class IS suppressed...the former bourgeoisie!

Trotskyists don't believe in a small clique carrying out a coup. In 1917, the Bolsheviks had mass support. As a Menshevik said, October 1917 was an uprising of the entire proletariat.

You call yourself 'communist'. In what way? If you are a communist, you are either a Marxist or an anarchist. If you do subscribe to one of these ideologies, then you obviously have not read enough about these.

As Engels said, "A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon".

One part of the population - the overwhelming majority - imposes its will on the other - the former exploiters, the bourgeoisie. If you reject this, then you reject the central tenets of the class struggle, and you have no right to call yourself a communist.

A reminder to new parties to post a link to their party here, in order to be officially recognised.

I will only list your party if and when it has more than one member, and your party has begun policy discussions in view of drawing up an eventual manifesto.

One part of the population - the overwhelming majority - imposes its will on the other - the former exploiters, the bourgeoisie. If you reject this, then you reject the central tenets of the class struggle, and you have no right to call yourself a communist.

Sorry to go off on a tangent but... How does this apply to today, when the proletariat is now a minority? (It is in the UK, not sure on other places)

weve made the Emphatically Silly party. Were working on a manifesto and we have some members. Is that okay?

weve made the Emphatically Silly party. Were working on a manifesto and we have some members. Is that okay?

That's fine. I've looked through your thread, and it meets the criteria to at least be listed.

Just be aware that you will need an official manifesto, at least ten full lines in length, if you want to stand in any election. But that's several months away still, so you've got time.

Sorry to go off on a tangent but... How does this apply to today, when the proletariat is now a minority? (It is in the UK, not sure on other places)
You gotta be joking me? The nature of the majority of jobs are changing in England but the concepts of class are still in place.

Just a reminder to all parties that you need to get yourself listed here once you meet the criteria to be a recognised party.

And, if you want to start a party, read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9041641&postcount=170) post from this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608&page=1&pp=15) thread. This is to stop the proliferation of threads for parties which just sink immediately into oblivion.

You gotta be joking me? The nature of the majority of jobs are changing in England but the concepts of class are still in place.

No. They are not. Most people in Britain are in the middle classes, however the fights between the classes has changed, no longer do the middle classes all vote Tory, they split their vote between the three parties. Also, of the working class, a significant proportion vote Tory. Also, the middle classes tend to be against communism for obvious reasons.

No. They are not. Most people in Britain are in the middle classes, however the fights between the classes has changed, no longer do the middle classes all vote Tory, they split their vote between the three parties. Also, of the working class, a significant proportion vote Tory. Also, the middle classes tend to be against communism for obvious reasons.

Most people in any western democracy are not business owners.

Most people in any western democracy are not business owners.Very true, but most people in western society do not feel oppressed like they did when Marx wrote. Marx probably did not envision a middle class.

Very true, but most people in western society do not feel oppressed like they did when Marx wrote. Marx probably did not envision a middle class.

Well, I could argue that just because people don't feel oppressed doesn't mean they aren't, but the key difference is that the focus has been shifted to a world level. There is an oppressed proletariat clearly visible.

Well, I could argue that just because people don't feel oppressed doesn't mean they aren't, but the key difference is that the focus has been shifted to a world level. There is an oppressed proletariat clearly visible.

Be careful there. You are using the term proletariat in a Marxist sense where it means :

the laboring class; especially : the class of industrial workers who lack their own means of production and hence sell their labor to live

The oppressed poor, on a world scale are mostly peasants rather than proletariat, unless you are starting a movement for the emancipation of industrial machinery.

This does not mean that a human poletariat no longer exists, it is just that is is hugely reduced since the days when Marx was writing, which clearly invalidates his arguments.

I'd start a party, but no-one would join it out of spite, because everyone seems to hate me. :(

~Czardas, Supreme ruler of the Universe

BUMPing this, so it doesn't get lost in this sudden debate:

And, if you want to start a party, read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9041641&postcount=170) post from this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608&page=1&pp=15) thread. This is to stop the proliferation of threads for parties which just sink immediately into oblivion.

New Party with three members. We're working on a "manifasto".

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424949

New Party with three members (We're working on a "manifasto". That term sounds freakin' communist for a largly conversative party, though :)).:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424949

There's a slight problem with your party. You're basing it as if you were going to run in US politics. Parties exist to compete for seats in the NS General Parliament, and shouldn't have policies to be implemented in any specific RL nation.

And, if you want to start a party, read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9041641&postcount=170) post from this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608&page=1&pp=15) thread. This is to stop the proliferation of threads for parties which just sink immediately into oblivion.

BUMPed. Parties that do not follow this procedure will not be recognised. Stop flooding the forum with idiotic parties.

"manifasto". That term sounds freakin' communist for a largly conversative party, though
:confused:

Add the Imperial Party to the list: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424822 It now has two people!

Add the Imperial Party to the list: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424822 It now has two people!

So it has. Added.

There's a slight problem with your party. You're basing it as if you were going to run in US politics. Parties exist to compete for seats in the NS General Parliament, and shouldn't have policies to be implemented in any specific RL nation.

Fixed.

Also, we now have nine members and are adding the finishing touches to our manifesto.

Fixed.

Also, we now have nine members and are adding the finishing touches to our manifesto.

Added.

Bump

BUMPed, for information's sake.

hello
we ( the emphatically silly party) have a manifesto. what shall i do with it?

hello
we ( the emphatically silly party) have a manifesto. what shall i do with it?

Try posting a link to your manifesto here. It helps Ariddia a lot if you do.

Yes indeed, thank you.

If you post a link to it here,I can link it from the first post of this thread, so everyone can read it. It would also mean that you meet the requirements to stand in an election.

Hey somebody in the meritocratic republicans thread on page 2 or 3 said the UDCP was the most communist party and that we were anti freedom of speech. I was fucken annoyed

That was me. I consider restriction on speech, even discriminative speech, to be revolting. People should be allowed to be bigots if they want.

BUMPed, for the sake of the upcoming election. There's no fixed date yet, but I suggest (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9580470&postcount=20) it starting on October 1st. Which means we'll need to have determined before that which parties are standing in the election.

If you've got a political party which meets the criteria to be recognised, and you would like it to stand in the election, please post a link to its manifesto in this thread.

The Sarzonia Party (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424533)

The Sarzonia Party (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424533)

Your party will not be recognised (nor allowed to stand in the election) unless and until it meets the oft-repeated criteria for political parties, sorry.

Members of political parties, please go here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=442409&page=1&pp=15) for important information on the upcoming election.