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I entered the US illegally

Iztatepopotla
06-06-2005, 19:06
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P
Texpunditistan
06-06-2005, 19:09
*nukes Canada*

Problem solved.
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:10
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P
I guess no one gives a damn if you spics enter from the OTHER side... :D

Edit: and I mean 'spic' in the best possible, mocking the term itself, way.
Whispering Legs
06-06-2005, 19:11
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P

I don't care.
Holy Paradise
06-06-2005, 19:13
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P
NOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN YOU!!! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!!! :mad: lol
Frangland
06-06-2005, 19:13
I guess no one gives a damn if you spics enter from the OTHER side... :D

Edit: and I mean 'spic' in the best possible, mocking the term itself, way.

No, no, you can't take it back, you filthy RACIST!
Iztatepopotla
06-06-2005, 19:14
I guess no one gives a damn if you spics enter from the OTHER side... :D

Hey, remember how you were saying on other thread that for latinos everything has a sexual connotation? Well... yeah.
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:17
Hey, remember how you were saying on other thread that for latinos everything has a sexual connotation? Well... yeah.
Jajajjajajajaaa...and the thought actually did cross my mind, but I'm dirty too, so I left it that way:).
Bitchkitten
06-06-2005, 19:20
I don't think most Americans asked the indigenous folks if we could come over anyway. Besides, it'd be hypocritical for us not to allow the Canadians the privilege to invade us back, as dubious as that privilege may be.
Markreich
06-06-2005, 19:24
*nukes Canada*

Problem solved.

Well, it wasn't like the player's strike was getting near the end... so, I have no complaint for now. ;)
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 19:25
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P

You're lucky you didn't go ten feet further, 'cause I had you in my sights and I was two seconds away from blowing your little canuck fuckin' head off.
Markreich
06-06-2005, 19:25
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P

Technically, if you had a birth certificate or photo ID issued by a governmental body, you were still legal.
McKagan
06-06-2005, 19:27
Terrorist!
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 19:28
I don't think most Americans asked the indigenous folks if we could come over anyway. Besides, it'd be hypocritical for us not to allow the Canadians the privilege to invade us back, as dubious as that privilege may be.

*frowns and prepares for three-page debate* :mad: What do you mean, let them attack us back?
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 19:29
you and Sean Hannity should be arrested and beaten into bloody submission.
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:31
you and Sean Hannity should be arrested and beaten into bloody submission.
Who's to say he isn't already submissive???
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 19:32
*frowns and prepares for three-page debate* :mad: What do you mean, let them attack us back?


I didnt get the "attack us back" part either...
Kanabia
06-06-2005, 19:33
Hehehe.

Just a friendly reminder to never enter Australian waters by boat, or you might end up in here. (http://www.hreoc.gov.au/human_rights/children_detention_report/report/photos/5_3_1woomera.jpg)

:(
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 19:34
Whose to say he isn't already submissive???


I dont really know either one that well. Offering their throat would be submissive...
Iztatepopotla
06-06-2005, 19:34
you and Sean Hannity should be arrested and beaten into bloody submission.
Can I pick who makes the beating?
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 19:35
Hehehe.

Just a friendly reminder to never enter Australian waters by boat, or you might end up in here. (http://www.hreoc.gov.au/human_rights/children_detention_report/report/photos/5_3_1woomera.jpg)

:(


I would never go there-I dont want them to throw my bible in the toilet.
Kaledan
06-06-2005, 19:37
Just because I hear it thrown around alot, remember that spic means Puerto Rican, not Mexican. If you meant it that way, great. If you didn't, then you are an idiot. ;-)
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 19:40
Just because I hear it thrown around alot, remember that spic means Puerto Rican, not Mexican. If you meant it that way, great. If you didn't, then you are an idiot. ;-)

Actually, I believe you're mistaken... I think it refers to all hispanics. In fact, I've never heard it refer to a Puerto Rican in my life.
Botswombata
06-06-2005, 19:41
I have no problems with anyone crossing the border to try to make a better life for themselves or just for the S & G factor for that matter. My beef is with the people that hire them in this country. They exploit those workers often paying them far below minimum wage & pay them off the books. I think anyone caught employing Illegals should do some serious jail time. Tax evasion for one thing & basic violation of human rights as well. Make the punishments harsher & you will see less illegal immigration in this country. Of course since a lot of congressmen & senators employ illegals to do housekeeping & garden work for them you can bet how fast a bill like that would die in either house.
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:42
Just because I hear it thrown around alot, remember that spic means Puerto Rican, not Mexican. If you meant it that way, great. If you didn't, then you are an idiot. ;-)
Hush puppy. Spic has been stretched to mean anyone with Latino background...because as we all know, Latinos are automatically Mexican unless otherwise stated.
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 19:44
Hush puppy. Spic has been stretched to mean anyone with Latino background...because as we all know, Latinos are automatically Mexican unless otherwise stated.

I beat you to it... scroll up. :)
Botswombata
06-06-2005, 19:44
Actually, I believe you're mistaken... I think it refers to all hispanics. In fact, I've never heard it refer to a Puerto Rican in my life.
You've never seen West Side Story?
Puerto Ricans are refered to as "Spics" in that.
It refers to all hispanics.
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:44
I beat you to it... scroll up. :)
Yeah, but mine was better :eek:
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 19:45
You've never seen West Side Story?
Puerto Ricans are refered to as "Spics" in that.
It refers to all hispanics.

Do they? I erased that movie from my memory because it was so fucking terrible.
Pohjoinen Maa
06-06-2005, 19:45
who in his right mind would want to move from canada to the US coluntarily, anyway? :rolleyes:

i would rather suggest the canadians to be careful, i heard of a lot of americans that they would like to move. but i guess the canadians are so friendly they would just built huge signs reading "welcome". :)
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 19:48
who in his right mind would want to move from canada to the US coluntarily, anyway? :rolleyes:

i would rather suggest the canadians to be careful, i heard of a lot of americans that they would like to move. but i guess the canadians are so friendly they would just built huge signs reading "welcome". :)

LOL If I lived in Canada, I would kill myself or move, and, as far as I know, I am of sound mind. The United States owns Canada, face it. The Canadians are dirty French-English bastards that get high and play hockey all day long, then go home and get on the internet to talk to their French butt-buddies.
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:48
Do they? I erased that movie from my memory because it was so fucking terrible.
*movie*

Gasp.

*movie!*

Uncultured swine! :p
East Canuck
06-06-2005, 19:50
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P
You didn't technically enter the US. Sorry. The Canado-US border is not dead center between the Canadian Falls and the US Falls. Unless you went under the US falls, you cannot claim to have entered the US.

Or so the told me when I asked, 3 years ago, during my vacation.
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:50
LOL If I lived in Canada, I would kill myself or move, and, as far as I know, I am of sound mind. The United States owns Canada, face it. The Canadians are dirty French-English bastards that get high and play hockey all day long, then go home and get on the internet to talk to their French butt-buddies.
And the Americans are cousin-humping inbred hicks that get drunk, sleep with their livestock and then go home, get on their 'hick-net' and shoot morse code messages to their neighbours:).
Refused Party Program
06-06-2005, 19:50
Hush puppy. Spic has been stretched to mean anyone with Latino background...because as we all know, Latinos are automatically Mexican unless otherwise stated.

Heh...it doesn't matter how specific a racist term is in origin, they always end up encompassing far larger groups of people. I've actually been called a "******", "paki" and even "spic" (to be fair, I was wearing a sombrero at the time) before.
Iztatepopotla
06-06-2005, 19:50
I would never go there-I dont want them to throw my bible in the toilet.
Or my copy of Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Or some other method of torture:

CIA Agent: "To make you talk this unclean woman will dance in her underwear right in front of your face"

Me: "Where's the torture in that?"

CIA: "You MUST tip her"

Me: "You bastards...!"
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 19:51
Heh...it doesn't matter how specific a racist term is in origin, they always end up encompassing far larger groups of people. I've actually been called a "******", "paki" and even "spic" (to be fair, I was wearing a sombrero at the time) before.
Me too...I've been called everything from 'whitey' (by natives), prairie ****** (by non-natives), spic, towel head and get this...FEMINAZI...sheesh!
Refused Party Program
06-06-2005, 19:54
Me too...I've been called everything from 'whitey' (by natives), prairie ****** (by non-natives), spic, towel head and get this...FEMINAZI...sheesh!

There's another one...I've also been called "whitey". LOLZ WTF?! :D
Iztatepopotla
06-06-2005, 19:55
You didn't technically enter the US. Sorry. The Canado-US border is not dead center between the Canadian Falls and the US Falls. Unless you went under the US falls, you cannot claim to have entered the US.

Oh, good. Then I don't have to tell them if I want to go to New York.
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 20:01
And the Americans are cousin-humping inbred hicks that get drunk, sleep with their livestock and then go home, get on their 'hick-net' and shoot morse code messages to their neighbours:).

Yea, well. Whatever gets us the higher GDP and the bigger guns. :cool:
Sinuhue
06-06-2005, 20:03
Yea, well. Whatever gets us the higher GDP and the bigger guns. :cool:
Hehehehe...the ends justify the means? TIME FOR SOME COUSIN-HUMPING, CANADIANS!!!!
Cogitation
06-06-2005, 20:04
LOL If I lived in Canada, I would kill myself or move, and, as far as I know, I am of sound mind. The United States owns Canada, face it. The Canadians are dirty French-English bastards that get high and play hockey all day long, then go home and get on the internet to talk to their French butt-buddies.Rogue Newbie: Official Warning - Trolling. You behavior on the forums has been questionable almost since you started posting. Correct your behavior or face a forumban.
And the Americans are cousin-humping inbred hicks that get drunk, sleep with their livestock and then go home, get on their 'hick-net' and shoot morse code messages to their neighbours:).Sinuhue: Official Warning - Trolling. Forumbanned for 5 days.

Decision reversed: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9022012&postcount=5

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Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 20:08
Rogue Newbie: Official Warning - Trolling. You behavior on the forums has been questionable almost since you started posting. Correct your behavior or face a forumban.

Did I really just get an official warning for good-humored sarcasm? If so, that's fine, I'm just wondering if that is actually against the rules. With some of the stuff that I've said, I can't believe a joke is what's getting me warned.
Ancient Valyria
06-06-2005, 20:10
Sinuhue: Official Warning - Trolling. Forumbanned for 5 days.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO![/vader]
Cogitation
06-06-2005, 20:12
Did I really just get an official warning for good-humored sarcasm? If so, that's fine, I'm just wondering if that is actually against the rules. With some of the stuff that I've said, I can't believe a joke is what's getting me warned."Good-humored sarcasm"? It looks like malicious sarcasm, to me.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
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Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 20:16
"Good-humored sarcasm"? It looks like malicious sarcasm, to me.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

Even though it was preceded by "LOL?" Hmmm, sorry, then. From now on I'll try to put everything I mean as a joke in [sarcasm] tags.
Markreich
06-06-2005, 20:19
who in his right mind would want to move from canada to the US coluntarily, anyway? :rolleyes:

i would rather suggest the canadians to be careful, i heard of a lot of americans that they would like to move. but i guess the canadians are so friendly they would just built huge signs reading "welcome". :)

Um... educated Canadians? ;)

http://www.ilanamercer.com/Bdrain1.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15638-2004Nov26.html

Seriously: I like Canada a lot. It just has taxes that are too high, benefits that are too generous, and no pizza. But there is a "brain drain" going on, and meanwhile you guys just get zealot Americans that move over elections and draft dodgers (in the old days)...
Dakini
06-06-2005, 20:25
LOL If I lived in Canada, I would kill myself or move, and, as far as I know, I am of sound mind. The United States owns Canada, face it. The Canadians are dirty French-English bastards that get high and play hockey all day long, then go home and get on the internet to talk to their French butt-buddies.
You are an idiot.
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 20:27
And the Americans are cousin-humping inbred hicks that get drunk, sleep with their livestock and then go home, get on their 'hick-net' and shoot morse code messages to their neighbours:).



How dare you!! Dont make me come up there.
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 20:31
Rogue Newbie: Official Warning - Trolling. You behavior on the forums has been questionable almost since you started posting. Correct your behavior or face a forumban.
Sinuhue: Official Warning - Trolling. Forumbanned for 5 days.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator


I was aware they were both being sarcastic here- crude, but sarcastic. I think most people in here knew tat. Can you reconsider banning in this case?
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 20:34
Rogue Newbie: Official Warning - Trolling. You behavior on the forums has been questionable almost since you started posting. Correct your behavior or face a forumban.

Hey, checking the definition of trolling, wasn't my post technically not trolling? Trolling entails posts "...that are made with the aim of angering people." I wasn't aiming to anger anyone... I even typed LOL before it to let people know it was a joke. I posted it with the aim of making people laugh at stereotypical American sentiment. Sinuhue seemed to be able to tell that I wasn't serious. Am I reading the definition of trolling wrong, or what?
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 20:36
I was aware they were both being sarcastic here- crude, but sarcastic. I think most people in here knew tat. Can you reconsider banning in this case?
Thanks for the support. :)
A Sound Mind
06-06-2005, 20:38
:p what does intrigue me though is why someone would want to leave Canada for the US. IsnĀ“t that like switching from skim milk to whole when you need to lose 20 lbs?
Steffengrad
06-06-2005, 20:40
Niagara Falls is a really, really cruddy town. It's got to be one of the crappist in Ontario. It sucks that it the only impression of Canada for a bunch of tourists is that place.
Rogue Newbie
06-06-2005, 20:43
Just so everyone knows, for future reference - including the mods - if I say something blatantly racist, I'm just kidding... mostly. Unless we're talking about the French. ;)
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 20:53
Just so everyone knows, for future reference - including the mods - if I say something blatantly racist, I'm just kidding... mostly. Unless we're talking about the French. ;)


Its a good idea to make that clear on each post you make thats really bad. Some people are very sensitive. others may come in late and not get the tone of the thread, think you're serious and make a harsh remark in response.
Jocabia
06-06-2005, 20:58
Rogue Newbie: Official Warning - Trolling. You behavior on the forums has been questionable almost since you started posting. Correct your behavior or face a forumban.
Sinuhue: Official Warning - Trolling. Forumbanned for 5 days.

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NationStates Game Moderator

I'd like to also point out that I took them both as kidding around. I understand a warning, but does it really necessitate a forumban? It makes me surprised that I haven't gotten in trouble yet.
Alexonium
06-06-2005, 21:03
you and Sean Hannity should be arrested and beaten into bloody submission.
Don't forget that douche Colmes
East Canuck
06-06-2005, 21:07
Hey, checking the definition of trolling, wasn't my post technically not trolling? Trolling entails posts "...that are made with the aim of angering people." I wasn't aiming to anger anyone... I even typed LOL before it to let people know it was a joke. I posted it with the aim of making people laugh at stereotypical American sentiment. Sinuhue seemed to be able to tell that I wasn't serious. Am I reading the definition of trolling wrong, or what?
Two things:
first, the mods haven't got the time to check if you are joking, or posting in a joking way as to avoid their wrath while still angering. Even if your post was sarcasm, there's no way to know for sure. And since the system has been abused before, the mods have a rather strict policy.

Second, if you feel the warning is not waranted, you can always appeal the decision in the moderation forum. Chances are you won't get an answer to your questions in this thread.
Constitutionals
06-06-2005, 21:16
That's right. On Saturday I went to Niagara Falls, Ont., with a friend and we went on the little Maid of the Mist boat. Although they're supposed to stay on their half of the river, as we were approaching the falls I noticed that we were definitely closer to the US side than the Canadian, so we were in the US illegally. And we exited illegally too.

I would be a wetback if they hadn't given us those plastic poncho things. And if anyone has a problem with that, feel free to air your disgust, see if I care. :P


You entered from Canada?


Weird...

I thought us liberals were supposed to be running to Canada, not the other way around!
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2005, 21:25
Don't forget that douche Colmes


I was kidding. I Like Sean Hannity. Colmes is an annoying twit.
Manawskistan
06-06-2005, 21:44
You should know as well as we do that we actually encourage people from our neighboring countries to enter illegally.
AoMWooper
06-06-2005, 21:48
*is loving open borders in EU*
You countries should have open borders. I mean, It would reduce the US population to zero, and double Canada's but...hey, It's bush's fault you all wanna leave. And you do want to leave. I am psychic. Phear me.
Manawskistan
06-06-2005, 21:56
*is loving open borders in EU*
You countries should have open borders. I mean, It would reduce the US population to zero, and double Canada's but...hey, It's bush's fault you all wanna leave. And you do want to leave. I am psychic. Phear me.

Actually, it would be more like a 1000% increase if I did the math correctly. 332 million people in Canada? lol good luck

Ok, have fun in Canada, I'll stick around and make sure the US is still around. I'll be chillin' in the white house when you guys get back. Don't worry, everything's under control.
OceanDrive
07-06-2005, 00:40
Two things:
first, the mods haven't got the time to check if you are joking, or posting in a joking way as to avoid their wrath while still angering. Even if your post was sarcasm, there's no way to know for sure. And since the system has been abused before, the mods have a rather strict policy.

Second, if you feel the warning is not warranted, you can always appeal the decision in the moderation forum. Chances are you won't get an answer to your questions in this thread.
good points.

BTW...Dear R-Newbie, writing "LOL" or "sarcasm" somewhere in your post is not a license to insult...I could very well insult your race, your religion and your momma...and by the time I write "LOL" its not going to matter really...

I think Cog had no choice...
Mt-Tau
07-06-2005, 00:56
I take my students up to Niagra falls every 2-3 months. The pattern above the falls at 3000ft. Anyhow, here are some pics....

http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1166/dsc014278zx.jpg (http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1166/dsc014278zx.jpg)

http://img31.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc014254td.jpg (http://img31.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc014254td.jpg)
Markreich
07-06-2005, 01:01
*is loving open borders in EU*
You countries should have open borders. I mean, It would reduce the US population to zero, and double Canada's but...hey, It's bush's fault you all wanna leave. And you do want to leave. I am psychic. Phear me.

If you guys would stop treating the Roma like the way the US treated blacks in the 1820s, we'd take comments like that more seriously. :p
Cirdanistan
07-06-2005, 15:47
Just so everyone knows, for future reference - including the mods - if I say something blatantly racist, I'm just kidding... mostly. Unless we're talking about the French. ;)
And the mods banned banned the other person? even when he's supposedly covering for his behaviour, he still makes racist comments.