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Are you a Marxist Universalist Democrat (M.U.D.)?

Preamble:

WE, the Marxist Universalist Democracy Party, understand the importance of freedom in the modern world. We choose to uphold equality and respect for our fellow man. We believe that the individual is the prime focus of any goal, and cherishment of our collective individuality is important in natural balance.

M.U.D. Manifesto:

Freedom:


Measures will be taken to ensure no minority has his or her right trampled upon by the majority.
Freedom of speech will be held sacred, except for those who wish to use freedom of speech to destroy such freedoms.
Fascists, Racists, and Bigots will not have the opportunity of freedom of speech. Any violaters of hate laws, especially laws breaking anti-Semitism codes, will be beaten, thrown into jail, and have their property confiscated.
All people have the right to practice whatever religion they so choose, as long as it is deemed inoffensive to minorities.
There will be a minimum of government interference in the lives of The People.
Ideas are to be communicated in respectable ways. People must adhere to politeness laws when speaking publically.
There will be more freedom in the individuals' life.


Drugs:


All drugs will be legalized for public consumption. Because the government will have full control of the economy, the government will be in charge of drug vendors.
Convicted felons of violent (words can be considered violent) acts involving racial hatred will be forcibly administered ecstasy. Ecstasy is a known empathogen which raises a user's level of tolerance.
All people convicted and currently incarcerated of drug charges will be released, regardless of any additional unrelated convictions.
Welfare programs will ensure the elderly's access to perscription drugs. Especially elderly minorities.


Racial Policy:


The government will grant certain benefits to interracial couples, as part of the Multicultural Initiative.
Any and all acts of racial injustice will be dealt with by the police with maximum efficiency.
All history books will have any mention of race erased, except for certain events such as the Holocaust and slavery in America's history.
Race is a social construction, and racial homogenization will be required to destroy the very abstract and false notion of race/ethnicity. If we are all the same color then racism cannot exist.
Affirmative Action programs will be implemented to ensure an equal number of minorities participate in various government run programs (such as jobs).


Social Policy:


Health care will be for all citizens, save felons and the previously wealthy
We will create a pluralistic society that is based on subjectivity and freedom.
The individual will be the highest point of focus.
While we respect the woman's right to choose, abortion might be necessary in culling an excess of one racial group. This is to prevent an elite class of a certain race from emerging.
Marriage between any members of any race, creed, or genders will be allowed. Special benefits will go to homosexual couples previously discriminated against by the prior capitalist regime.
All victims of hate crimes will be given reparations as a gesture of the M.U.D.s humanity.
Guns will be banned. There will be no need for them as revolution under our revolutionary government can only be started by the racist factional groups seeking dominance. Criminals will also have no access to guns, so crime will be nonexistant.
All people will participate in the democratic system. Racists, not being human, will be expelled.
Democracy will be put into the hands of the people and the nation of Earth will directly elect a president of Earth.


The Economy:


The Government and The People will be fully inseperable. This allows for a complete nationalisation of the economy.
All people, being equals having equally important functions in society, will earn the same amount of pay.
Pay will be in the form of cattle, chickens, grain, and berries. Money will be abolished as it directly leads to a capitalist system.
As there will be no borders after the simultaneous worldwide revolution, the value of the various items of barter (such as chickens) will retain a constant value in every sector of land.


Animal Rights:


Animals must be treated with upmost respect, even those that are meant for feeding. Anyone found disrespecting an animal's right to a humane existence will be branded a bigot and the courts will proceed as normal.
Certain species of animals with proven higher cognitive abilities will not be exempt from the democratic process. Chimpanzees and Dolphins are two such animals; Bonobos are primarily in mind because they form natural Marxist communities.
Animals may be killed for the only purpose of consumption.
Vegetarianism will be government sponsored and vegetarians will recieve extra benefits in berries.


Education:


Education will be open to all individuals, regardless of age, sex, or any other personal attribute.
All pictures of people in school text books will be of minorities. This is to counterreact the racist notion of Whites being the only achievers in the arts and sciences.
Homosexuality will be introduced to children at a young age to ensure normalization.
Personal skills classes will be compulsory for all elementary school children. These classes will introduce concepts in speaking to other humans that minimize conflict and impoliteness.
The following books will be banned from High School libraries: The Turner Diaries, Mein Kampf, Nineteen Eighty-Four, The Wealth of Nations, Industrial Society and It's Future, and The Antichrist.
Children will be introduced to highly imaginative art such as abstract art at an early age.
Philosophy will be a compulsory course. Students will be expected to understand the concept of the categorical imperative upon completion. Naturally, works by Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, and Plato will be verboten.


Globalization:


A worldwide revolution will occur to amalgamate the planet into one nation: Earth.
All borders will be opened and all suburbs will be populated by asylum seekers. This is the opposite of "white flight."
A Racial Homogenization program will be started to ensure equality in all sectors (formerly known as regions).
There will be funding for technology with the purpose of searching for extraterrestrial lifeforms. Once contact is made, attempts to institute intergalatic Communism will take place under the unlikely occurance of it not happening already.


Punishment:


All felons (those convicted of violating hate codes) will be forced to work into internment camps with 15 hour work days and in maximum security facilities.
Rehabilitiation will be more important than punishment, still. Ecstasy will be given to violent offenders of hate crimes and mandatory reeducation classes utilizing negative reinforcement will be used.
There will be much less crime in a tolerant world.
Those convicted of anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial will be extradited to the world capital of Tel-Aviv for punishment.


Arms, Military, Militia:


There will be a large military compromised of a few billion people. The main focus is to quell any intolerant militia groups from popping up. We need to stamp them out or else we'll have another Hitler.
A secondary purpose will be to defend the nation of Earth from any extraterrestrial attacks.


People and fellow humans, realize this: as long as we are unequal, we cannot be friends. Vote Marxist Universalist Democracy Party in your next election.

I hope everyone finds a part of themselves warming up upon reading such openminded words. I certainly did.

Good luck, you'l need it.

All pictures of people in school text books will be of minorities. This is to counterreact the racist notion of Whites being the only achievers in the arts and sciences.That is ridiculous. What if whites are the minority? Saying that all pictures must be of minorities is being racist in itself. Plus, this party is not that much different from the UDCP.

Democratic stalinists... fun fun

lolz, how many more variations of the commies are there going to be? So far we have Democratic Communists, Democratic Socialists, Democratic Marxists, and Trotskyists. Where will the madness end?

edit: You know, you should hook up with the Party of Order. Then we'd have a party of MUD and PoO. Priceless. :D

lolz, how many more variations of the commies are there going to be? So far we have Democratic Communists, Democratic Socialists, Democratic Marxists, and Trotskyists. Where will the madness end?
I'm actually starting to wonder if this guy is really a nazi posing as a communist to try and degrade the left-wing movement. The emphasis he places on race (especially the jews) seems somewhat suspicious.

edit: Yeah Im pretty sure he is, go check out the RTP manifesto page, he argues some very anti-leftwing points. This is either parody or a mole

I'm actually starting to wonder if this guy is really a nazi posing as a communist to try and degrade the left-wing movement. The emphasis he places on race (especially the jews) seems somewhat suspicious.

An interesting theory. One which would solidify the connection with the Party of Order in some strange way....

MUD and PoO for the win! :D

I'm actually starting to wonder if this guy is really a nazi posing as a communist to try and degrade the left-wing movement. The emphasis he places on race (especially the jews) seems somewhat suspicious.

edit: Yeah Im pretty sure he is, go check out the RTP manifesto page, he argues some very anti-leftwing points. This is either parody or a mole

No. My heart goes out to the Jews because they have had thousands of years of hate directed against them, plus the largest genocide in all of history directed against them.

My posts in the RTP were to test your dedication and fortitude under pressure, my friend.

No. My heart goes out to the Jews because they have had thousands of years of hate directed against them, plus the largest genocide in all of history directed against them.

My posts in the RTP were to test your dedication and fortitude under pressure, my friend.

That's ridiculous. Even your region is racially-orientated. It's pretty obvious you're not a lefty

Iconoclastic Islands
World Factbook Entry: Iconoclastic Islands is a racially homogenous group of islands, with inhabitants bearing white skin, which is quite rare in the rest of the world. This region is renown its eugenics programs. High intelligence and unbreakable wills are bred into the populace, and the most competent for ruling are in the ruling class, something that requires a nondemocratic system. Iconoclastic Islands is highly paranoid about depleting natural resources; in response an ecofascist stance is taken in regards to pollution and deforestation.

Sound familiar? Oh man, this kid needs to be burned at the stake or something...

That's ridiculous. Even your region is racially-orientated. It's pretty obvious you're not a lefty

Such a nation was an attempt to wrap my head around the fascist ideology, comrade.

I still have trouble comprehending such bigotry.

tag. another communist party = more competition... great :(
why can't lefties all just get along? ;)

oh and you might want to look at the colours of the headings in your manifesto. i for one couldn't read them...

Such a nation was an attempt to wrap my head around the fascist ideology, comrade.

I still have trouble comprehending such bigotry.
I just find it EXTREMELY peculiar that your view of communism is exactly the same view that the nazis have of it. We do not intend to take away people's guns, we have no plans to set up tel aviv as a worldwide capital, and under communism there would be no state. How then would there be a president?

That is ridiculous. What if whites are the minority? Saying that all pictures must be of minorities is being racist in itself. Plus, this party is not that much different from the UDCP.

The guy is an obvious right-winger. The manifesto is a joke. Good method for argument: build a straw man and then beat it up.

For a while that's what I thought L. Neil Smith was doing.

Sir, I and my fellow left wingers did not create a false party with overtly racist and downright dumb politics to demean your side. I would kindly request that in the highly likely event that you are just trying to demean our polticial views, you get this thread deleted.

This is absolutely insane!

You allow freedom of speech, apparently, but not to people you don't agree with?
I believe that to destroy racism you have to stop differentiating between people of different colours or backgrounds completely, not just give extra benefits to "minorities".
And you propose to rewrite history- does that not remind you slightly of Hitler's regime where school textbooks were changed to fit in with propaganda?

This is so ridiculous its unbelievable- did you put that post up just to laugh at people's reactions, or are you serious?

Show us a political compass reading Ocalmsnoci. I don't think you'll be on the libertarian side, despite your talks of a small government.

If the nazis find my beliefs offensive, then more power to me :)

Show us a political compass reading Ocalmsnoci. I don't think you'll be on the libertarian side, despite your talks of a small government.

Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95

This is absolutely insane!

You allow freedom of speech, apparently, but not to people you don't agree with?

This is a necessary precaution. I want to prevent the scum of the Earth, the intolerant, from corrupting society. Freedom exists still, just not for bigots.


I believe that to destroy racism you have to stop differentiating between people of different colours or backgrounds completely, not just give extra benefits to "minorities".

I agree. Color will still be a factor in people's minds until you make everyone the same color, unfortunately, so giving extra benefits to those seen as minorities is needed to encourage race mixing.

And you propose to rewrite history- does that not remind you slightly of Hitler's regime where school textbooks were changed to fit in with propaganda?

We are not rewriting history. I want to, in your own words, "stop differentiating between people of different colours or backgrounds completely".

This is so ridiculous its unbelievable- did you put that post up just to laugh at people's reactions, or are you serious?

What is funny about Marxism? Of course I'm serious.

If the nazis find my beliefs offensive, then more power to me :)



Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95



This is a necessary precaution. I want to prevent the scum of the Earth, the intolerant, from corrupting society. Freedom exists still, just not for bigots.



I agree. Color will still be a factor in people's minds until you make everyone the same color, unfortunately, so giving extra benefits to those seen as minorities is needed to encourage race mixing.



We are not rewriting history. I want to, in your own words, "stop differentiating between people of different colours or backgrounds completely".



What is funny about Marxism? Of course I'm serious.

This is ridiculous, you're a fash and you can't hide it. We've debated about no platform and you said that you disagreed with sending them to prison and now you want to drug them.

Another point that proves that you're not a lefty is that you have no coherent policy on how socialism can be achieved- are you a reformist, a revolutionary? It's just that you suggest you are both in your manifesto. Either you are the most confused Marxist in human history or a fash trying to infiltrate and exhibiting you're utter lack of knowledge about communism

This is ridiculous, you're a fash and you can't hide it. We've debated about no platform and you said that you disagreed with sending them to prison and now you want to drug them.

Another point that proves that you're not a lefty is that you have no coherent policy on how socialism can be achieved- are you a reformist, a revolutionary? It's just that you suggest you are both in your manifesto. Either you are the most confused Marxist in human history or a fash trying to infiltrate and exhibiting you're utter lack of knowledge about communism

Comrade, I don't want conflict. We can all work together for the same goals.

When I disagreed about sending them to prison, I was playing the devil's advocate. I was unsure as to how strong your will and ideologies were. I found both to be unbreakable.

The manifesto focused on what we want to do once we already succeed with the transitionary socialism. I believe the most effective way for revolution is awaiting capitalism's demise in the collapse of the economy, and then taking control from there when people are more susceptible to a change in ideology (from racism to egalitarianism).

Do you mind explaining to me just why tel aviv would be made into the capital city?

Why you would employ ridiculous racial policies which include changing history?

Why the jews are more protected than any other race?

Why you would abloish the civil rights movement from textbooks?

Why you say we would have a communist society, yet need affirmative action?

There are too many holes in your manifesto.

Do you mind explaining to me just why tel aviv would be made into the capital city?

Israel has land that is holy to Christians, Muslims, and Jews. This would be the proper place for unity.

Why you would employ ridiculous racial policies which include changing history?

We do not want to change history. We just want to make sure that history doesn't unnecessarily mention race.

Why the jews are more protected than any other race?

“Every nation hates each other, but they all hate the Jew.” ~ Mark Twain

Why you would abloish the civil rights movement from textbooks?

We wouldn't. That is one such thing that would be left intact (and it aslo DOES involve slavery).

Why you say we would have a communist society, yet need affirmative action?

You can only have so much people in X job. There would need to be quotas of each race for each job. i.e. there is room for 9 people as stablehands so three would be Mexican, three Black, and three Asian. Of course, that's just an example and more than likely it would be 9 different races.

There are too many holes in your manifesto.

It is sound.

Israel has land that is holy to Christians, Muslims, and Jews. This would be the proper place for unity.
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1) By your logic why wouldnt you use jerusalem?
2) Marxism embraces a secular state, why are you mixing religion into it

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We do not want to change history. We just want to make sure that history doesn't unnecessarily mention race.

race has been an important issue in the past and we can't deny that. Ignoring the fact that racism is pointless, but taking a stance against it may accomplish something


“Every nation hates each other, but they all hate the Jew.” ~ Mark Twain

Yes the jews are picked on quite frequently, but that doesnt mean they should be treated any differently to other abused minorities


We wouldn't. That is one such thing that would be left intact (and it aslo DOES involve slavery).

No it involves race. Not slavery or the holocaust, so your manifesto says that it should be left out


You can only have so much people in X job. There would need to be quotas of each race for each job. i.e. there is room for 9 people as stablehands so three would be Mexican, three Black, and three Asian. Of course, that's just an example and more than likely it would be 9 different races.

Race should have no place in a communist society, this policy would only provide competition between the races and never seek to unite them. This is not a colourblind society you are building- it is one with the liberal capitalist's view of race


It is sound.
It is false.

Are you a Marxist Universalist Democrat (M.U.D.)?
Alright, time to advertise for you, too.



WE, the Marxist Universalist Democracy Party, understand the importance of freedom in the modern world. We choose to uphold equality and respect for our fellow man. We believe that the individual is the prime focus of any goal, and cherishment of our collective individuality is important in natural balance.
"Marxism: For the furtherment of individuality!"

Measures will be taken to ensure no minority has his or her right trampled upon by the majority.
Freedom of speech will be held sacred, except for those who wish to use freedom of speech to destroy such freedoms.
"Marxism: Speak your mind, as long as what you have to say doesn't piss us off!"
Fascists, Racists, and Bigots will not have the opportunity of freedom of speech. Any violaters of hate laws, especially laws breaking anti-Semitism codes, will be beaten, thrown into jail, and have their property confiscated.
"Marxism: Preventing racism worldwide, especially racism towards Jews."
There will be a minimum of government interference in the lives of The People.
Ideas are to be communicated in respectable ways. People must adhere to politeness laws when speaking publically.
There will be more freedom in the individuals' life.
"Marxism: In the name of minimal government interference!"
"Marxism: For more freedoms than ever before, so long as you don't say naughty words!"

All drugs will be legalized for public consumption. Because the government will have full control of the economy, the government will be in charge of drug vendors.
"Marxism: No public cussing, but crack is cool!"
Convicted felons of violent (words can be considered violent) acts involving racial hatred will be forcibly administered ecstasy. Ecstasy is a known empathogen which raises a user's level of tolerance.
"Marxism: Stopid bigotry one drug addict at a time!"
All people convicted and currently incarcerated of drug charges will be released, regardless of any additional unrelated convictions.
"Marxism: Free the murderers, as long as they smoke pot!"
Welfare programs will ensure the elderly's access to perscription drugs. Especially elderly minorities.
"Marxism: Stopping bigotry by making sure that minorities get special treatment!"
The government will grant certain benefits to interracial couples, as part of the Multicultural Initiative.
"Marxism: Stopping bigotry by giving preferential treatment to interracial marriage one union at a time!"
All history books will have any mention of race erased, except for certain events such as the Holocaust and slavery in America's history.
"Marxism: Stopping racism by making sure race only matters in certain situations!"
Race is a social construction, and racial homogenization will be required to destroy the very abstract and false notion of race/ethnicity. If we are all the same color then racism cannot exist.
"Marxism: Stopping racism by destroying all races!"
Affirmative Action programs will be implemented to ensure an equal number of minorities participate in various government run programs (such as jobs).
"Marxism: Stopping racism by giving minority races an upper hand on majority races!"
Health care will be for all citizens, save felons and the previously wealthy
"Marxism: Seeking economic equality by making sure the wealthy don't get the same benefits as the poor!"
"Marxism: Free healthcare: because who wants a motivated doctor, anyway?"
We will create a pluralistic society that is based on subjectivity and freedom.
"Marxism: Stopping bigotry with subjectivity!"
While we respect the woman's right to choose, abortion might be necessary in culling an excess of one racial group. This is to prevent an elite class of a certain race from emerging.
"Marxism: Stopping racism one genecidal spree at a time!"
Marriage between any members of any race, creed, or genders will be allowed. Special benefits will go to homosexual couples previously discriminated against by the prior capitalist regime.
"Marxism: Stopping bigotry by giving homosexuals benefits over heterosexuals!"
Guns will be banned. There will be no need for them as revolution under our revolutionary government can only be started by the racist factional groups seeking dominance. Criminals will also have no access to guns, so crime will be nonexistant.
"Marxism: Outlawing guns: because guns are the only thing that cause crime."
"Marxism: Outlawing guns: Because, with guns outlawed, only the outlaws shall have guns, and God forbid responsible people have them, as well!"
Democracy will be put into the hands of the people and the nation of Earth will directly elect a president of Earth.
"Marxism: Promoting individuality via world domination!"
All people, being equals having equally important functions in society, will earn the same amount of pay.
"Marxism: Equal wages: because McDonald's workers need love, too!"
Pay will be in the form of cattle, chickens, grain, and berries. Money will be abolished as it directly leads to a capitalist system.
"Marxism: Promoting individuality by abolishing vital motivations!"
Animals must be treated with upmost respect, even those that are meant for feeding. Anyone found disrespecting an animal's right to a humane existence will be branded a bigot and the courts will proceed as normal.
"Marxism: Because cows are people, too!"
Certain species of animals with proven higher cognitive abilities will not be exempt from the democratic process. Chimpanzees and Dolphins are two such animals; Bonobos are primarily in mind because they form natural Marxist communities.
"Marxism: Because if illiterate people can vote, so can chimps!" Actually, I agree...
Vegetarianism will be government sponsored and vegetarians will recieve extra benefits in berries.
"Marxism: Abolishing bigotry by giving special benefits to vegetarians!"
All pictures of people in school text books will be of minorities. This is to counterreact the racist notion of Whites being the only achievers in the arts and sciences.
"Marxism: Stopping racism one race at a time!"
Homosexuality will be introduced to children at a young age to ensure normalization.
"Marxism: Government promotion of homosexuality: because reproduction isn't that important!"
Personal skills classes will be compulsory for all elementary school children. These classes will introduce concepts in speaking to other humans that minimize conflict and impoliteness.
"Marxism: Increasing personal freedoms by making sure people don't say what they mean!"
The following books will be banned from High School libraries: The Turner Diaries, Mein Kampf, Nineteen Eighty-Four, The Wealth of Nations, Industrial Society and It's Future, and The Antichrist.
"Marxism: Promoting free speech and education by censoring everything bad!"
Children will be introduced to highly imaginative art such as abstract art at an early age.
"Marxism: Because who wants to paint stuff that resembles things, anyway?"
A worldwide revolution will occur to amalgamate the planet into one nation: Earth.
"Marxism: Abolishing bigotry by taking over anyone different than we are!"
A Racial Homogenization program will be started to ensure equality in all sectors (formerly known as regions).
"Marxism: Promoting individuality via racial homogenization!"
Those convicted of anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial will be extradited to the world capital of Tel-Aviv for punishment.
"Marxism: Promoting free speech by silencing people that disagree with our views!"
There will be a large military compromised of a few billion people. The main focus is to quell any intolerant militia groups from popping up. We need to stamp them out or else we'll have another Hitler.
"Marxism: Because you don't want another Hitler, do you? You don't see it my way? Then die!"



Sorry, not gonna get my vote... almost had me, though. ;)

He's clearly trolling, guys. He's demonstrated political views very much opposite these, and his manifesto is obviously designed to mock the beliefs of marxists. Ignore him.

He's clearly trolling, guys. He's demonstrated political views very much opposite these, and his manifesto is obviously designed to mock the beliefs of marxists. Ignore him.

ROFL how is that trolling? Do you guys just call everything you disagree with that makes you feel wrong trolling? That was completely sarcastic, not vulgar whatsoever, and effectively explained why I would never support this party. It was meant to be funny, not serious - hell I was arguing via advertisements for their party! If I said something that can even remotely be interpreted as truthfully hateful, please show me where and I'll delete it.

ROFL how is that trolling? Do you guys just call everything you disagree with that makes you feel wrong trolling? That was completely sarcastic, not vulgar whatsoever, and effectively explained why I would never support this party. It was meant to be funny, not serious - hell I was arguing via advertisements for their party! If I said something that can even remotely be interpreted as truthfully hateful, please show me where and I'll delete it.

Not you, champ, the person who started the thread.

Not you, champ, the person who started the thread.

Ahhh, please accept my sincerest apologies, I assumed you guys were getting on my tail again... you mods haven't been big fans of me. :D

Ahhh, please accept my sincerest apologies, I assumed you guys were getting on my tail again... you mods haven't been big fans of me. :D

Apology accepted. But I'm not a mod.

Apology accepted. But I'm not a mod.

Ahhh, whatever... hehe, I saw the word "spam" in your title, and that you had 13,000+ posts, and assumed. Forgot what happens when you assume things. ;)

Hehe, leftists battling each other. Looks like christmas came early this year ;)

On a side not, your party is just plain wrong.

Hehe, leftists battling each other. Looks like christmas came early this year ;)

On a side not, your party is just plain wrong.

Yeah, I think I established that with my advertisements for them on page two.