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No Drugs, No sex, YES VIOLENCE!

Swimmingpool
06-06-2005, 17:06
It's not the Puritans this time!

http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2005/05/30/100693.php


Reno police classify Straight Edge as a gang

You wouldn’t expect a splinter faction of teens that rejects alcohol, tobacco, drugs or promiscuous sex to be an active criminal street gang, but in Washoe County that’s exactly what’s happening, authorities say.

In March — following a six-month investigation — Straight Edge was officially classified a gang by the Regional Gang Unit. Nearly every week, gang officers investigate Straight Edge crimes or harassment that doesn’t seem to subside following arrests.

Authorities describe Straight Edge attacks as random, opportunistic, violent beatings that can be spurred by minor comments from nonmembers. Members — who sometimes use bats, shovels, knives, brass knuckles and Mace — don’t engage in violence unless they can outnumber their targets, police said.

Straight Edgers tend to attack other teens who are publicly engaging in activities Straight Edgers don’t agree with, such as smoking or drinking.

“It’s ironic and disappointing that otherwise good kids are committing crimes to promote their own personal philosophy,” said Lt. Doug Cardwell of the gang unit. “We’ve had more crime attributed to Straight Edge than any criminal street gang this year.”

Police acknowledge that not every student claiming to lead the Straight Edge lifestyle engages in criminal activity. About 20 boys and young men so far have been identified as violent Straight Edge members, authorities said.

Efforts to interview Straight Edge students or parents through phone calls were unsuccessful. Those who were contacted didn’t want to talk for this article because they feared retaliation.

Edgers not involved in criminal activity — whose exact numbers here are unknown — are not considered gangsters, police said. Some teens who believe in the philosophy also have branched off into their own groups and go by different names. Punk rock music initially is what bonds Edgers.

Parents, gang unit officers said, need to be the first point of defense in stopping this violence.

“We hope parents take the time to ask their kids the right questions and make these kids realize how easy life can change with one swing of a bat — they could be facing murder charges,” Sgt. Rick Bjelke said. “Good kids will be spending their life in prison for what? Someone was smoking or drinking?”

Several Straight Edgers in Washoe County are being prosecuted in juvenile court for separate incidents this year, including random beatings and intimidation of non-Straight Edge students and property destruction.

Gang members who are prosecuted for gang-related crimes face sentencing enhancements, which automatically double their punishments. Most are also court-ordered not to associate with other members.

Zero Tolerance

School officials and police say Straight Edge students are enrolled in all district high schools. But most of the violent Edgers attend or have graduated from Reed High School.

“We have a zero-tolerance policy to gang activity on or around campus,” said George Hardaway, Reed’s vice principal of discipline. “Those leaders or members of groups who polarize themselves, label and categorize themselves are individuals we notice. They stick out like a sore thumb.”

School officials took note of some Straight Edge members’ escalating violence and, earlier this school year, held group and parental meetings as well as anger-management classes, Hardaway said.

He said parents of Edgers who are involved in gang activity at school have argued their children have been unfairly punished for school incidents.

“But we don’t profile and we treat everyone the same,” he said. “It’s a battle.”

Washoe County School District police said most Straight Edge incidents have been off school grounds.

“It doesn’t make sense to promote having great values by enforcing it with violence,” said Lt. Dale Richardson of the school district police. “If students are harassed, they need to report it to us so we can take care of it. We want a safe learning environment.”

A movement

Utah law enforcement classified Straight Edge as a gang several years ago, following members’ involvement in a 15-year-old’s death and beatings similar to those that have been seen in Washoe County.

Detective Lex Bell of the Salt Lake Area Gang Project in Utah thinks Straight Edge is popular there because of the strong Latter-day Saints’ influence, which mirrors the group’s core beliefs.

“When these kids are raised with these beliefs and they get to high school, they are exposed to more people and cultures and some get dogged for being LDS,” Bell said. “They can grab onto something like Straight Edge that they think is cool and still represents their beliefs.”

Around the country, Straight Edge is typically associated with a positive image of clean living and punk rock music.

Bell said his experience is that Straight Edgers don’t consider themselves a gang. He said they pride themselves on being part of a worldwide movement with no official leader.

What is Straight Edge?

In a 1983 interview with the Washington Post, punk rocker Ian MacKaye discussed his song “Straight Edge” which described the philosophy of punks against drugs and alcohol. MacKaye, then 21, was the lead singer for the band Minor Threat.

In the article, he discussed his fascination with nonviolent gangs and his disapproval of people choosing to “mess up their lives.” His influence is reportedly how the Straight Edge doctrine of clean living took off across the world.

Gang officers said many Edgers attend local venues for concerts. Some display “X” and “Poison and Drug Free” tattoos on their bodies and wear dark clothes and bandannas.

Gang officer Cardwell said most of the violent Straight Edgers here grew up together and remained friends in high school. No one member appears to lead the group.

What separates the mostly white Straight Edgers from the 20 mostly Hispanic street gangs the gang unit monitors are that its victims are often unknown and randomly targeted based on lifestyle observations, Officer Paul Adamson said. Victims of other gangs are usually known due to a rivalry or debt, he said. Traditional gangs take pride in their criminal image, not for abstaining from substances.

“Typically the gang activity we see here are from kids who come from underprivileged backgrounds whose families work a lot and don’t have a lot of means,” said Roy Stralla, a deputy district attorney who has prosecuted some Straight Edgers.

“But these upper and middle-class kids think the gang lifestyle is a glorified status,” he said. “They have more money and more means to commit acts of violence.”

Stralla said Straight Edge crime appears limited to school issues, such as problems with other students, and has not bled into committing burglaries or selling drugs.
Free Soviets
06-06-2005, 17:27
"Stralla said Straight Edge crime appears limited to school issues, such as problems with other students, and has not bled into ... selling drugs."

really?!?

anyways, now that not drinking or doing drugs is linked to gang violence, does this mean that parents should sit their teenagers down and get them really fucking high and piss drunk? you know, to keep them safe and out of trouble.
Achmed47
06-06-2005, 17:30
wtf is a straigh edger?
UpwardThrust
06-06-2005, 17:31
wtf is a straigh edger?
I see you did not bother reading the article … not only does it describe what a strait edger does it describes where that term came from
SimNewtonia
06-06-2005, 17:53
Only in America...
Liskeinland
06-06-2005, 19:27
Wow. Sounds like my evil side personified.
Potaria
06-06-2005, 19:30
Just one more reason to hate Minor Threat.
Bodies Without Organs
06-06-2005, 19:38
Just one more reason to hate Minor Threat.

What are the others?
UpwardThrust
06-06-2005, 19:48
What are the others?
They suck :p
Potaria
06-06-2005, 19:59
They suck :p

Don't forget that Ian MacKaye is a dickhead.
UpwardThrust
06-06-2005, 20:06
Don't forget that Ian MacKaye is a dickhead.
Nope wont forget that :)
Robot ninja pirates
06-06-2005, 20:13
I love irony. It's a beautiful thing.
Eldpollard
06-06-2005, 20:22
sex, drugs and rock and roll. well two owt of three ain;t bad. :D
Sea Monkey
06-06-2005, 20:35
I guess it is a way to keep drugs of the streets. Its really odd that this started with a song... I'm going back to listen to Violent Pornography.
Niccolo Medici
06-06-2005, 21:38
I believe that someone, somewhere has refined irony into its purest state, and now releases it like a gas around the world...One news story at a time.

THIS is why you don't cut funding for the Chess club people; they're twice as violent as the football squads. They'll smash anyone who doesn't wear a pocket protector.
Undelia
06-06-2005, 22:01
Well, this is the general veiw of most people in the U.S. "Sex and drugs are indecent but violence rules!" is how many people, especially parents, think. It doesn't make much sense to me. How is having sex or smoking a joint worse than blowing somebody's brains out? Whatever. the results are obvious, just look at all the violence we have in our schools and society in general. :(
Hyperslackovicznia
06-06-2005, 23:41
Too trippy for words! :rolleyes:
Bodies Without Organs
06-06-2005, 23:45
Don't forget that Ian MacKaye is a dickhead.

I feel like I'm drawing teeth here: on what basis is he a dickhead?
Potaria
06-06-2005, 23:48
I feel like I'm drawing teeth here: on what basis is he a dickhead?

Ehh. Lots of reasons.

The biggest reason? He's a full-on anti-John Lydon moron. Why? Because John was caught up in some business and was unable to attend one of Ian's gigs. If you hate a person just because they miss one of your shows, you've got issues.
Bodies Without Organs
06-06-2005, 23:52
Ehh. Lots of reasons.

I'll let Rudimentary Peni answer this one for me:

Have you Realised that Rock Stars
Always seem to lie so much?
John Lydon once said he cared
But he never really gave a fuck
Said he'd use the money he made
So that people would have somewhere to go
But now he lives in the USA
and Snorts Coke after the Show.
Potaria
06-06-2005, 23:57
I'll let Rudimentary Peni answer this one for me:

Have you Realised that Rock Stars
Always seem to lie so much?
John Lydon once said he cared
But he never really gave a fuck
Said he'd use the money he made
So that people would have somewhere to go
But now he lives in the USA
and Snorts Coke after the Show.

One guy on the Punk Rock board at GameFAQs (DMBGreenDay was his name) gave me these bullshit lyrics after I said why Ian MacKaye was a dickhead.

Yeah, he did care. But, most of the "Punk Rockers" were becoming the assholes that he had been against the whole time. All the "you have to act and dress this way to be with us" bullshit had been going on long enough, so he just decided to please himself with his money. And, I think that's good for him. If you had a shit life groing up, you should be able to help yourself out.

Snorting coke? Hahahaha. The only drug John ever did was speed (though he did abuse alcahol for a while).