NationStates Jolt Archive

It's Sweden's National Day and for the first time (?) it's also a public holiday.

You may know Sweden for their huge success on pop music (or metal) or for their many athlets. It's the home country of gorgeous tall blondes and Bond-girls. You may also know it as the home country of brilliant NS posters e.g. Borgoa and Fass :D

It's the country we Finns just love to hate. Congratulations to our favourite enemy!

http://www.wingdom.org/discography/
http://www.visit-sweden.com/Default.aspx
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sw.html

I promise to listen only Swedish music today. I'll also finally watch Lilja 4ever. Unfortunately SVT is not available around here, can't watch Swedish television.

Hurray, finally our own independence day is a national holiday, even though the real holiday is celebrated at midsummers-eve.

I'm going to celebrate by listening to our national anthem and wave some flags around...

Du gamla, du fria, du fjällhöga Nord!
Du tysta, du glädjerika sköna!

And so on. 6th of June is nothing to celebrate really, it's not an independence day, but oh well, grattis Sverige! It's a good place to live in.

Congrattis Sverige!

Swedes are experts at talking shit about their own country.
What are they gonna celebrate?
Many Swedes are afraid of their own flag(seriously)...
They can't celebrate...

I say we let Scania become a free republic and we make a big party July 19, the day of the Scanian flag!
The Swedes don't know how to celebrate, but trust we do it!

Leve Skåne!!

Swedes are experts at talking shit about their own country.
What are they gonna celebrate?
Many Swedes are afraid of their own flag(seriously)...
They can't celebrate...

I say we let Scania become a free republic and we make a big party July 19, the day of the Scanian flag!
The Swedes don't know how to celebrate, but trust we do it!

Leve Skåne!!
I never knew Scania was anything else than
http://www.lsi.upc.es/~lcmolina/media/scania-exc-topline.jpg :O
Thanks to you I now know that it's also
http://www.scania.org/

But why Swedes are afraid of their flag? I know blue-yellow is not the best colour mix but...I don't think they are that careful about their looks...

Anyway it's easier for me to have a conversation in Danish than understand anything what a Scanian is saying. :p

Gratulerer, Sverige! Flott å se at dere har begynt å ta etter oss når dere feirer nasjonaldager!

Så kan dere i tillegg feire at det er hundre år siden dere ble kvitt oss!

Ugh, the national day is a pointless exercise to attempt to revive stale, old nationalism. Making it a public holiday was sheer populism.

We already have a "real" national holiday, where we celebrate Swedish nature and culture, and that is midsummer. We don't need some empty "oh, look at us, we're so good and god-damn full of ourselves" day like the Norwegian 17 of May.

Don't get me wrong, I love living here and wouldn't trade it for any other country, but nationalism makes me sick to my stomach.

I could do with a holiday right now, but Happy Sweden day anyway. :)

I'm moving to Sweden in 15 days :)

I spent three months there earlier this year and it was so nice! I could go on for hours with lots of good stuff about the country and its people.

My husband is a native Swede, and he loves his country very much. I think 'nationalism' has a become word describing the sort of blind patriotic overproud huzzah that some people feel with nothing behind it. Screaming I love my country but not knowing why. When you have intelligent thought out reasons, and specific differences between your country and others, that's gotta be something happy, right?

Gratulerer, Sverige! Flott å se at dere har begynt å ta etter oss når dere feirer nasjonaldager!

Så kan dere i tillegg feire at det er hundre år siden dere ble kvitt oss!

What he said :) (second part tomorrow ;)).

Ugh, the national day is a pointless exercise to attempt to revive stale, old nationalism. Making it a public holiday was sheer populism.

We already have a "real" national holiday, where we celebrate Swedish nature and culture, and that is midsummer. We don't need some empty "oh, look at us, we're so good and god-damn full of ourselves" day like the Norwegian 17 of May.

Don't get me wrong, I love living here and wouldn't trade it for any other country, but nationalism makes me sick to my stomach.
Didn't you lose another holiday (whit sunday?) for this one? I'd rather have another national holiday for my country than a religious holiday. Heh, we actually have "the Swedishness day" (just Svenska dagen på svenska) on 6th of November. We celebrate the nationalism of another country. (not really, it's for all finlandssvenskar) Twisted.

Midsummer is for partying anyway, now you can celebrate Swedish culture on 6th of June and focus on the pagan feast on midsummer.

Didn't you lose another holiday (whit sunday?) for this one? I'd rather have another national holiday for my country than a religious holiday. Heh, we actually have "the Swedishness day" on 6th of November. We celebrate the nationalism of another country. Twisted.

Funny thing is, losing the pentecost/whit Sunday has really screwed people over. Because whit Sunday always ends up on a Sunday (duh!), people used to get longer holidays, as the days that managed to get in between the pentecostal holidays, so called "klämdagar," could be free from work as well. The national day, on the other hand, is ambulatory, and calculations show that this will mean that the average person will get fewer days off in the year than with the old system.

So, getting rid of a religious holiday, while ideologically sound, has some important negative side-effects. Also replacing it with a nationalist holiday almost negates any sort of ideological points that were accrued by the removal of the religious one.

Midsummer is for partying anyway, now you can celebrate Swedish culture on 6th of June and focus on the pagan feast on midsummer.

Swedish culture is still very much pagan. Midsummers is a natural way to celebrate Swedish culture, while the National Day is artificial.

Hip Hip Hurra! Grattis Sverige!

Alla dom som ville ta bort annandag pingst som helgdag kan ta sig i arslet!

Nu ska jag gå med i AFA demonstrationen mot nationalism!

It's Sweden's National Day and for the first time (?) it's also a public holiday.

You may know Sweden for their huge success on pop music (or metal) or for their many athlets. It's the home country of gorgeous tall blondes and Bond-girls. You may also know it as the home country of brilliant NS posters e.g. Borgoa and Fass :D

It's the country we Finns just love to hate. Congratulations to our favourite enemy!

http://www.wingdom.org/discography/
http://www.visit-sweden.com/Default.aspx
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sw.html


You forgot all those excellent porn films!

Och som patriot så skriver jag ju självklart det här:

Du gamla, Du fria, Du fjällhöga nord
Du tysta, Du glädjerika sköna!
Jag hälsar Dig, vänaste land uppå jord,
Din sol, Din himmel, Dina ängder gröna.
Din sol, Din himmel, Dina ängder gröna.

Du tronar på minnen från fornstora dar,
då ärat Ditt namn flög över jorden.
Jag vet att Du är och Du blir vad du var.
Ja, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden.
Ja, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden.

Jag städs vill dig tjäna mitt älskade land,
din trohet till döden vill jag svära.
Din rätt, skall jag värna, med håg och med hand,
din fana, högt den bragderika bära.
din fana, högt den bragderika bära.

Med Gud skall jag kämpa, för hem och för härd,
för Sverige, den kära fosterjorden.
Jag byter Dig ej, mot allt i en värld
Nej, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden.
Nej, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden.

Och som patriot så skriver jag ju självklart det här.

I'm so happy and proud of Sweden that patriot is an ugly word and sense here.

I'm so happy and proud of Sweden that patriot is an ugly word and sense here.
Tyvärr förväxlar många patriotism med nationalism.

Tyvärr förväxlar många patriotism med nationalism.

Patriotism är än mer meningslöst.

Patriotism är än mer meningslöst.
Patriotism är kärlek till det egna landet. En kärlek som kan yttra sig genom osjälviskt arbete för landets bästa. Meningslöst?

Patriotism är kärlek till det egna landet. En kärlek som kan yttra sig genom osjälviskt arbete för landets bästa. Meningslöst?

Japp, eftersom det är totalt onödigt för att kunna arbeta för ett lands bästa. Det har också ofta en förblindande effekt för de fel landet har, och är faktiskt en av nationalismens stöttepelare.

Japp, eftersom det är totalt onödigt för att kunna arbeta för ett lands bästa.
Nej, eftersom en del inte bryr sig. Patriotismen ger en motivering att arbeta för sitt lands bästa, istället för att arbeta för sitt eget bästa.

Det har också ofta en förblindande effekt för de fel landet har, och är faktiskt en av nationalismens stöttepelare.Så har också antipatriotismen en förblindande effekt då man jämställer alla patrioter med NSF. Alla ideologier, religioner och allmäna uppfattningar har en förblindande effekt. Sedan kan jag ju säga att nationalsocialismen till viss del stödjer sig på socilismen, men därför ska socialismen inte föraktas.

Consider the long and bloody history of Sweden, and it's no wonder that people there are tired of anything that would take them back up that bloody road.

Nej, eftersom en del inte bryr sig. Patriotismen ger en motivering att arbeta för sitt lands bästa, istället för att arbeta för sitt eget bästa.

Kollektivism på högersidan. Kan vi få ett mer förvirrat fenomen?

Så har också antipatriotismen en förblindande effekt då man jämställer alla patrioter med NSF.

Det gör man inte. Dock är det bra att inse att patriotism är en sådan källa till negativa konsekvenser, och dess positiva konsekvenser går att uppnå förutan patriotismen.

Ugh, the national day is a pointless exercise to attempt to revive stale, old nationalism. Making it a public holiday was sheer populism.

We already have a "real" national holiday, where we celebrate Swedish nature and culture, and that is midsummer. We don't need some empty "oh, look at us, we're so good and god-damn full of ourselves" day like the Norwegian 17 of May.

Don't get me wrong, I love living here and wouldn't trade it for any other country, but nationalism makes me sick to my stomach.

Don't see how Swedish nature and culture could be particularily more celebrated on midsummer. It's not a specifically Swedish day.

Anyway, 17th of May in Norway is a day to celebrate that we got a constitution, complete with wild new ideas like human rights and democracy, and regained our sovereignity (sort of.) Any "oh, look at us, we're so good and goddamn full of ourselves" works just as well on any other day.

My point is that one doesn't have to make a celebration of getting a constitution into something overly nationalistic and ego-inflating. In fact, that seems a bit odd to me. Why not choose the date of some great victory or something like that if you want a nationalistic holiday? So why not take a little flag and go wave it around in the street to show that you appreciate your country?

Well, having read about the recent conviction of a woman in Norway who was performing fellatio on a semi-conscious man without his permission, I feel that Norway is the more progressive country, and that Sweden has some catching up to do.

As a native American, I can also tell you that we're way behind in this area.

I will now seek passage to Norway where they are at least enlightened enough to recognize that women should pay for the privilege of fellating us.