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Who are some people that you admire/like that you may not agree with politically?
I'll name one of mine:
Niccolo Machiavelli

Ernesto Rafael "Che" Guevara

At the moment I would name Pure Metal, and I have respect for the style of argument of Ariddia.
DHomme can be funny, does that count?

Like but might not agree with politically?


I love everybody. :fluffle:

Fidel Castro, because even though I do not like his political, communist ideas, I admire the fact that he dared stand up against the Amerikans, like very few people in smaller, weak countries have (And after all, he's one of the few that "survived" them)

Fidel Castro, because even though I do not like his political, communist ideas, I admire the fact that he dared stand up against the Amerikans, like very few people in smaller, weak countries have (And after all, he's one of the few that "survived" them)
And to think that most of the hostility was due to a misunderstanding!

Senator John McCain, R. Arizona
My buddy Don, Conservative,
Whispering Legs
Eutrusca
Sinuhue, don't agree with her on everything, but she's cool
Rep. Chris Smith, R. New Jersey
That's all I can think of for now.

Che Guavara, Castro, maybe even Reagan.

On this forum:
Whispering Legs
Cat-Tribe

Constantinopolis, and The Cat-Tribe. Both are intelligent, well-meaning folks with politics that I cannot stand.

Senator John McCain, R. Arizona
My buddy Don, Conservative,
Whispering Legs
Eutrusca
Sinuhue, don't agree with her on everything, but she's cool
Rep. Chris Smith, R. New Jersey
That's all I can think of for now.
[ flattered to be included in such distinguished company ] :D

Oh, you mean on the site. I was gonna say, like, Robin Williams, or someone like that. Hmmm, I'd probably say Saint Uriel and Tazikhstan. From what I've seen they're mostly UN people, though.

From NationStates:
Melkor Unchained
Alien Born
Whispering Legs
Eutrusca
Vittos Ordination

I'll have to think a bit before I come up with some good examples from elsewhere.

Bill O'Reilley.

From NationStates:
Melkor Unchained
Alien Born
Whispering Legs
Eutrusca
Vittos Ordination

I'll have to think a bit before I come up with some good examples from elsewhere.
[ flattered once again to be included in such distinguished company ] :D

At the moment I would name Pure Metal, and I have respect for the style of argument of Ariddia.
DHomme can be funny, does that count?
You're damn right it counts

[ flattered to be included in such distinguished company ] :D
You've earned it. Everything you post, whether I agree with it or not, is thought out and reasonable. I haven't seen you flame anyone (one of my little vices), and you seem to genuinely care about other people. Don't be flattered, accept the respect you have earned.

*queue circle jerk*

*queue circle jerk*
Circle Jerks? Cool! Will they play "I wanna destroy you"?

Circle Jerks? Cool! Will they play "I wanna destroy you"?

I don't know. Maybe if you squeeze enough?

You've earned it. Everything you post, whether I agree with it or not, is thought out and reasonable. I haven't seen you flame anyone (one of my little vices), and you seem to genuinely care about other people. Don't be flattered, accept the respect you have earned.

The same goes for you. I've never seen you flame anyone. You think your posts out, and don't post unreasonably, and you don't flame anyone for their beleifs, and you're very respectful. ;)

you're my favorite left winger :p on this board at least.

The same goes for you. I've never seen you flame anyone. You think your posts out, and don't post unreasonably, and you don't flame anyone for their beleifs, and you're very respectful. ;)

you're my favorite left winger :p on this board at least.
Drunk Commies Deleated is a left winger? :eek:

John McCain
Osama Bin Laden (Anybody that can avoid the US for three years without any trace can't be all that stupid)

I disagree with Eustrusca sometimes, but he's still one of the posters I respect most.
Vittos Ordination also falls in this catagory.
I disagree with Lazy Hippies quite vehemently, but he argues very coherently.

I disagree with Eustrusca sometimes, but he's still one of the posters I respect most.
Vittos Ordination also falls in this catagory.
I disagree with Lazy Hippies quite vehemently, but he argues very coherently.
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Drunk Commies Deleated is a left winger? :eek:

Compared to most.

Don't worry, I respect you too, Eutrusca.

Drunk Commies Deleated is a left winger? :eek:
Yeah, I'm in favor of a worldwide minimum wage that is also a living wage, national healthcare system, decriminalizing drugs, progressive income tax, banning political contributions and letting government regulate business among other "leftie" ideas. I just happen to be pro-defense, and in favor of spreading western culture and values to less developed parts of the world, which makes me seem conservative to some.

You've earned it. Everything you post, whether I agree with it or not, is thought out and reasonable. I haven't seen you flame anyone (one of my little vices), and you seem to genuinely care about other people. Don't be flattered, accept the respect you have earned.
You, sir, are very kind! :)

Yeah, I'm in favor of a worldwide minimum wage that is also a living wage, national healthcare system, decriminalizing drugs, progressive income tax, banning political contributions and letting government regulate business among other "leftie" ideas. I just happen to be pro-defense, and in favor of spreading western culture and values to less developed parts of the world, which makes me seem conservative to some.
Kewl. Where did you fall on the "Political Compass?"

Kewl. Where did you fall on the "Political Compass?"
-5.00 economic, and -2.89 on the other one. What was that one called? Social maybe?

Kewl. Where did you fall on the "Political Compass?"

Heh. You gotta dig an older guy that says "kewl".

BTW, where did you fall on the political compass?

I think I was something like 2.5, 2.

Compared to most.

Don't worry, I respect you too, Eutrusca.
:D

I don't always agree with Rush Limbaugh, but you realy have to admit, he is a genious.

Karl Marx. Basically invented communism. And didn't say it with an overbearing government either.

George W. Bush, hate the bastard, hate his policies, but it has to take guts to say all that BS in front of millions of people, and knowing that what he's saying is BS.

John Paul the II.

Great, Great man, but his anti-sex anti abortion anti-birth control politics just don't quite work for me.

Colin Powell

Seems like an intelligent, good man, and probably the republican who I have the most respect for. I don't like his republican policies, but as a person he'd probalbly get my vote.

Chirac

I'd vote socialist in a French election, but I admire his strong Pro-Europe stance and his balls to oppose the US in Iraq. Plus he has a certain distinction about him that I respect.

Heh. You gotta dig an older guy that says "kewl".

BTW, where did you fall on the political compass?

I think I was something like 2.5, 2.

LOL! Something I caught from my children, I think. :D

Left-right I came out at -0.5

On the vertical scale I came out at about -1.80

Overall, I was a stone's throw from dead on "centrist."

Well, I'd have to say Drunk Commies and Constantinopolis from this board. (I can't say Eutrusca, as I often agree with him, otherwise I would. :))

Outside NS? Uh....

Nope, can't think of anyone. Oh wait...

John Paul II. His fundemental stuff I like, but I won't get into why I don't like him, as Catholics may be offended.

And as a second edit:

Since everyone else is doing it, I'll post my political compass, too. :)

Economy Axis: 7.00
Athouritarian Axis: 0.63

Michael Collins i suppose

(I can't say Eutrusca, as I often agree with him, otherwise I would. :))
Ah! Another human with exquisite taste! :D

Drunk Commies Deleated is a left winger? :eek:
he is:

Drunk Commies
Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Authortiarian/Libertarian: -2.92

NS Political Compass! (http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg)

I just happen to be pro-defense, and in favor of spreading western culture and values to less developed parts of the world, which makes me seem conservative to some.
It's funny about modern politics like that. Theoretically speaking, speading democracy is a very left-wing idea, to me at least.

Ernie Eves, former Premier of Ontario. Progressive Conservative. Hated a lot of his economic policies, but he is socialy very ponminded, speaking out in open support of the same-sex marriage bill early on.He's also surprisingly candid for a politican, plus he wears great suits.

I have a grudging amount of respect for G.W. Bush, but only because he's doing whatever he can to re-open the US Border to Canadian Beef.

Apparently in America, inbred hicks are allowed to vote on national issues in a election with maybe 50,000 voters, completely ignoring the Feds and any laws they pass.



On NS: Whispering Legs regularily says stuff that pisses me off, but does it with style and some scruples, so its all good.

Etrusca: Don't like some his views on somethings..always politics, fortunately not in predictable Left/Right Wing fashion.

He's old (over 60 is old for me...cuz I'm only 31) which makes me much more inclined to pay attention to what he says. Anyone who managed to live through a war and has made it past 60 is bound to have some really interesting expereinces and ideas.

Benedict XVI

His views are much too conservative and I don't share his opinion that Christianity is supirioir to everything, but nevertheless he is most intelligent and a peaceful man.

He's old (over 60 is old for me...cuz I'm only 31)
You're so old! I'm 19!

Add to my list:
Pope John Paul II - strong will, convictions and took action, like reaching out to other faiths. I disagree with his extremely conservative attitudes to many issues.

Lets see well...
Red is disagree; Green is agree

Andrew Jackson
Yogi Berra
Ronald Reagan
Frederick Barbarossa

I dunno, this is gonna take too long. How about I list some I don't agree with.
Peter the Great
Larry King
Howard Stern
Dave Chappelle

I think that's good.

LOL! Something I caught from my children, I think. :D

Left-right I came out at -0.5

On the vertical scale I came out at about -1.80

Overall, I was a stone's throw from dead on "centrist."


Hmmmm. Sounds a little left wing to me. You might be a trouble maker

I have my eye on you.... hippy

Pope John Paul II
Pope Benedict XVI
John McCain
Laura Bush (for putting up with the f*cktard)
Colin Powell (though I don't respect him nearly as much as I used to)

Hmmmm. Sounds a little left wing to me. You might be a trouble maker

I have my eye on you.... hippy

?

I'm pretty sure he voted Bush....

Karl Rove. Evil sonofabitch really knows how to work the mind.

I don't always agree with Rush Limbaugh, but you realy have to admit, he is a genious.
I don't really, thanks. He's an imbecile. I don't care to post reasons; they should be self-evident.

Bill O'Reilley.
I second that

What the heck, here's a list of people I tolerate, in no real order:

(Key: If they're boldified, they're a hero of mine)
Ronald Reagan
Patrick Henry
Thomas Paine
Erwin Rommel
Thomas Johnathan Jackson
Otto von Bismarck
Andrew Jackson
George Patton
Chester Nimitz
Douglas McArthur
Yoda
Isoroku Yamamoto

Hmm....seeing a pattern here? :)

Pope John Paul II
Göran Persson (PM of Sweden)
Colin Powell
Hu Jintao
The Ayatollah of Iran

Otto von Bismarck
Josef Stalin
Lenin
Che Guavara
Colin Powell
John McCain

Hmm..

Ian McKellan--damn good actor, but too far left for my tastes
Rush Limbaugh--damn good radiohost, but too far right for my tastes
J.L. Mackie
Aristotle
Ghandi
Frank Herbert

Also? Just found out where I am on the Political Compass:

Economic--.63
Social--1.79

I second Drunk commies deleted. John McCain's all right. I have a good friend who's a moderate Republican. Colin Powell is one. I disagree with my Congressman on a lot of stuff but he's still a nice person.

Charles de Gaulle - led France through the dark times after the occupation in France, and revived the nation's spirit, after it had all but died.

Ronald Reagan - The Guy had real class

I don't really, thanks. He's an imbecile. I don't care to post reasons; they should be self-evident.

Listen to his show sometimes, you'll learn something

I like Jean Chrétien, even though I didn't agree with him on most issues.
I'd take a politician whom I respected and trusted to do what they think is right over someone who claimed to have a similar stance on most issues as myself, if I had any suspicion that he was corrupt or wasn't going to follow through.

On NS...hmm, in no order at all, really, Roach-Busters, Eutrusca, Alien Born, Vittos Ordination, Daistallia 2104 and Swimmingpool most of all.

They're all intelligent and are/seem easy enough to get along with, even though our politics are different :)

I'm sure there's others I can think of too, but I may not know enough about their politics to list them.

Left-right I came out at -0.5

On the vertical scale I came out at about -1.80

Overall, I was a stone's throw from dead on "centrist." HOLY CRAP! Eutrusca is left wing?!?!?!?!

That's just... I mean... I...

*World implodes* :p

Jocabia
Melkor Unchained
DHomme
Alien Born
Whispering Legs
Drunk commies

all spring to mind. (I know, I know, I listed people with totally opposite politics.) I disagree with almost everyone else, too, but I dislike most of them.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Melkor Unchained: because he's a fresh breath of unchained air...and I almost never agree with him:)

Eutrusca: yeah, that's right, I'm denying that I ever agree with him. DENY!

Dead Commies (in all his incarnations): He gets my sarcasm, and aside from a rough start (CHOKE ON THAT SANDWICH!), I like his style...I don't completely disagree with him all the time, but enough to keep things interesting.

Jocabia/Dempublicents: I name them together, because they are often joined at the hip...and their discussions are always entertaining, even when I don't really agree with either of them!

The Cat Tribe: we mostly see eye to eye...but not always, and then the claws come out...

Alien Born: he always makes me defend my position, and as annoying as that can be sometimes, it at least forces me to be clear...

Whispering Legs: reasonable poster, but just so, so wrong on so, so many things...:) I love him for his feminism!

I know there are more of you I don't agree with, but still like to debate...

Circle Jerks? Cool! Will they play "I wanna destroy you"?
I LOVE the circle jerks! WONDERBAR...

Czardas
Letila
Alien Born
Pure Metal
They all spring to mind from the boards.
From real life
Ghandi
MLK
Stalin (anybody who changes their name to "Man of steel" and wasn't drunk at the time has gotta have some nerve)

Itzak Rabin
John Paul II
Colin Powell
Nelson Mandella

-and-

Basically anyone who is willing to fight with all their might for peace. Regardless of politics, I hold them up as paragons.

HOLY CRAP! Eutrusca is left wing?!?!?!?!

That's just... I mean... I...

*World implodes* :pyup...
Drunken Commies is left wing too...

and I am right Wing.

Karl Marx
George Orwell
Vladimir Lenin (to a much lesser extent)

Two friends who are all under the age of 21 who got pregnant, not only kept and looked after the babies but are also staying in college while working part time.
My JC history teacher Ms. O' Flynn-RIP:(
Tatcher-much props she was 1st female PM
Vespatian
Konrad Adenaur
Machiavelli

Two friends who are all under the age of 21 who got pregnant, not only kept and looked after the babies but are also staying in college while working part time.
My JC history teacher Ms. O' Flynn-RIP:(
Tatcher-much props she was 1st female PM
Vespatian
Konrad Adenaur
Machiavelli

Oh I forgot Rasputin!

Bob Barr, John McCain.

I am going to get flamed for this but Hitler.
Yes Hitler
If he was not a Nazi, and a Jew killing racist, he would have been the most respectable politician that ever lived. I do not support his views or any racist/Nazi views, but Hitler was an awesome chancellor and politician.
He took Germany from after the Treaty of Versai (Sp?) to a power that could hold off three quarters of Europe for 6-7 years, convinced a nation to attempt genocide, kicked the crap out of a lot of Europe for the length of the war, and won Time's man of the year in the 1930's.
The thing to remember is that after WWI, Germany was only allowed
An 100,000(?) man army
No airforce
No navy
No tanks
No cannons greater than aproximately 6~8 inches?
and in the Depression built this up to the point of holding off most of Europe.

Others include
Osama Bin Laden and Al Quada (Hate the bastards, but they are very good)
Mark Latham (Australian Politician, good potential but his party screwed him)
Castro (Resisting America so long)
Marin Luther King and Malcolm X (Disagreed with somethings, but important)

Its "Versailles;" and Hitler lost his marbles after about 1940; he made some good decisions up until then [minus the Jew killing], but after 1940 he sucked horribly, both as a politician and a military strategist.

I can't think of any real people!!!

But I might add Bottle.

(That shows I'm really addicted to NS. ;))

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

If Hither had died in summer of '39, he would probably have been remembered as the greatest statesman in German history... how odd.

On NS:
Neo-Anachists
Kanabia
Free Soviets
Letila
CanuckHeaven

All are pretty far from me, but mostly on economic issues.

In reality:
Malcolm X
John Paul II
Benedict XVI (respect for his support of peace, really dislike for his opinions on my religion)
Jimmy Carter - bad politics, but relatively honest and caring