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The Sexual Preference Gene - Found!

[NS]Ein Deutscher
05-06-2005, 04:18
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/03/news/cell.php


A single gene answers question of sex


FRIDAY, JUNE 3, 2005
When the genetically altered fruit fly was released into the observation chamber, it did what these breeders-par-excellence tend to do: It pursued a waiting virgin female.

It gently tapped the girl with its leg, played her a song (using wings as instruments) and, only then, dared to lick her - all part of standard fruit fly seduction.

The observing scientist looked with disbelief at the show, knowing that this was where this courtship ended: The suitor in this case was not a male, but a female that researchers had artificially endowed with a single male-type gene.

That one gene, the researchers announced in the journal Cell, is apparently by itself enough to create patterns of sexual behavior, a kind of master sexual gene that normally exists in two distinct male and female variants.

In a series of experiments, the researchers found that females given the male variant of the gene acted exactly like males in courtship, madly pursuing other females. Males that were artificially given the female version of the gene became more passive and turned their attention to their own sex.

"We have shown that a single gene in the fruit fly is sufficient to determine all aspects of the flies' sexual orientation and behavior - it's very surprising," said Barry Dickson, senior scientist at the Institute of Molecular Biotechnology at the Austrian Academy of Sciences in Vienna and the paper's lead author.

"What it tell us is that instinctive behaviors can be specified by genetic programs, just like the morphologic development of an organ or a nose."

The results are certain to prove influential in debates about whether genes or environment determine who we are, how we act and, especially, our sexual preference, said experts in the field, who added that they were both awed and shocked by the results.

"The results are so clean and compelling, the whole field of the genetic roots of behavior is moved forward tremendously by this work - that a single gene can generate male behavior in a female fly is really surprising," said Michael Weiss, professor and chairman of biochemistry at Case Western Reserve University in the United States.

"Hopefully this will take the discussion about sexual preferences out of the realm of morality and put it in the realm of science," Weiss said. "I never chose to be heterosexual, it just happened, but humans are complicated.

"With the flies we can see in a simple and elegant way how a gene can influence and determine behavior."

The results suggest that, in terms of sexuality and sexual preference at least, genes exert a powerful influence.

That supports scientific evidence accumulating for the past decade that a sexual preference may be innately programmed into the brains of men and women - straight or gay.

Equally intriguing, the researchers say, is the possibility that a number of behaviors - hitting back when feeling threatened, fleeing when scared or laughing when amused - may also be programmed into human brains, a product of genetic heritage.

"This is a first - a superb demonstration that a single gene can serve as a switch for complex behaviors," said Gero Miesenboeck, a professor of cell biology at Yale University.

Dickson, who recalls running into the lab when an assistant called him on a Sunday night with the results, said, "This really makes you think about how much of our behavior, perhaps especially sexual behaviors, has a strong genetic component."

All researchers cautioned that any of these prewired behaviors set by master genes can and probably will be modified by experience. Though male fruit flies are programmed to "do it," Dickson said, "males that are rejected often by females over time become less aggressive in their mating behavior."

When a normal male fruit fly is introduced to a virgin female, he almost immediately begins foreplay and then copulates for 20 minutes.

In fact, Dickson and his co-author, Ebru Demir of the Institute of Molecular Biology, chose to look for the genetic basis of fly sexual behavior precisely because it seemed so strong and instinctive, therefore predictable.

But no one dreamed that simply activating the normally dormant male portion of the gene in a female fly could cause a genetic female to display so perfectly the whole elaborate panoply of male fruit fly foreplay.




Fruit flies... but we're getting closer to the goal of finding the gay gene. Then, all heterosexuals can be genetically treated to finally be able and enjoy the benefits ofhomosexuality. Gayness shall rule the world! Mwahahahahah!!! :eek:
Nova Roma
05-06-2005, 04:21
Never! I will never submit to your fiendish ways, catamite!! Noooo!!!!
[NS]Ein Deutscher
05-06-2005, 04:24
Never! I will never submit to your fiendish ways, catamite!! Noooo!!!!
You have no chance to survive. Make your day. All your sexual preferences, are belong to us. This was just to counteract the soon to come proposition that homosexuality can now be genetically "cured". :D
LiazFaire
05-06-2005, 04:26
Why *should* we be looking to find a 'reason' for homosexuality?

just seems rather pointless to me... what happens if they do find a 'gay' gene... and what happens if someone identifying as 'gay' is found to be lacking this gene... are they no longer 'gay'? or can this merely display a genetic predilection for certain attractions, which fruitflys being rather uncomplicated creatures automatically act upon. Humans on the other hand are capable of overcomming their pre-set genetic'ness' through their experiences.

Even better will be would be if they were to randomly test homophobic hate-mongerers and discover this gene... what then, these people clearly self-identify as 'straight' so the discovery of a 'gay' gene within their coding would do... what?

*and then have the amazing ability to see what happens when said 'cure' is shoved somewhere painful, then again anyone wanting to administer such a cure is clearly a homophobe in denial*
Depressed Ants
05-06-2005, 04:37
Ein Deutscher']You have no chance to survive. Make your day. All your sexual preferences, are belong to us. This was just to counteract the soon to come proposition that homosexuality can now be genetically "cured". :D
damn straight!!!!
[NS]Ein Deutscher
05-06-2005, 04:38
*edited due to Mod regulations :)*
Tsaraine
05-06-2005, 04:48
Depressed Ants, behaviour such as you have displayed in this thread is flaming or trolling, depending upon the circumstances; either way, it is absolutely unacceptable on the NationStates forums.

As you are new to our community, I choose to refrain from warning you in this instance, but further such instances will not be met with similar leniency. Shape up or ship out.

~ Tsar the Mod.
Successoria
05-06-2005, 04:56
I dont see what the big deal over hosexuality is. As a hetero male I think that 2 guys bieng gay is two guys I dont have to compete for women with. Two women together is just great to watch. They dont produce offspring often, usually opting to adopt, which I think is great. Any financial anylist will confirm that a two income household benefits the economy more than a one income household.

So lemmie see, I get laid more, pay less to take care of people I'll never meet, enjoy a stronger economy, and get excited by watching 2 women together. I cant see the downside.
Tsaraine
05-06-2005, 04:58
I recall reading an article in New Scientist magazine some time ago in which some researchers had found a similar gene in humans. The article dealt largely with how a "homosexuality gene" would get passed on, as it is not highly likely to result in reproduction.

These researchers (and I apologise for my inability to find any more concrete references, it was some time ago so I do not have the article to hand) found that the sisters of the men in whom they found this gene also possessed it, and they generally had more children, statistically, than women who did not possess it; so the gene might be termed a "love-of-men" gene as opposed to a "homosexuality gene".

They hypothesised the existence of a corresponding "lesbian gene", but had not found it.

However, given that human behaviour is an extremely complex subject, and human development is subject to a very wide range of effects, it would be foolish to ascribe homosexuality - or anything else, for that matter - entirely to genetic causes.

Just my two cents.
GMC Military Arms
05-06-2005, 05:02
I dont see what the big deal over hosexuality is. As a hetero male I think that 2 guys bieng gay is two guys I dont have to compete for women with. Two women together is just great to watch. They dont produce offspring often, usually opting to adopt, which I think is great. Any financial anylist will confirm that a two income household benefits the economy more than a one income household.

So lemmie see, I get laid more, pay less to take care of people I'll never meet, enjoy a stronger economy, and get excited by watching 2 women together. I cant see the downside.

This man wins 2.7 internets.
[NS]Ein Deutscher
05-06-2005, 05:05
This man wins 2.7 internets.
Agreed :D
Hollusta
05-06-2005, 05:06
I dont see what the big deal over hosexuality is. As a hetero male I think that 2 guys bieng gay is two guys I dont have to compete for women with. Two women together is just great to watch. They dont produce offspring often, usually opting to adopt, which I think is great. Any financial anylist will confirm that a two income household benefits the economy more than a one income household.

So lemmie see, I get laid more, pay less to take care of people I'll never meet, enjoy a stronger economy, and get excited by watching 2 women together. I cant see the downside.


strangelly, as a female i am not offended by this. and i must agree. not word for word but in essense.
Club House
05-06-2005, 05:45
Why *should* we be looking to find a 'reason' for homosexuality?

just seems rather pointless to me... what happens if they do find a 'gay' gene... and what happens if someone identifying as 'gay' is found to be lacking this gene... are they no longer 'gay'? or can this merely display a genetic predilection for certain attractions, which fruitflys being rather uncomplicated creatures automatically act upon. Humans on the other hand are capable of overcomming their pre-set genetic'ness' through their experiences.

Even better will be would be if they were to randomly test homophobic hate-mongerers and discover this gene... what then, these people clearly self-identify as 'straight' so the discovery of a 'gay' gene within their coding would do... what?

*and then have the amazing ability to see what happens when said 'cure' is shoved somewhere painful, then again anyone wanting to administer such a cure is clearly a homophobe in denial*
well it was important enought to be mentioned in the presidential debate. "i think if you asked Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian she would tell you that homosexuality is a choice" or some stupid shit like that. god, Kerry was an idiot.
[NS]Ein Deutscher
05-06-2005, 05:52
Urm.. wrong. Kerry said this:


KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.

www.debates.org
Vittos Ordination
05-06-2005, 06:06
Every time I pass it, I read the thread title as "The Sexual Preference Game", which I would consider to be much more interesting.
Mentholyptus
05-06-2005, 06:07
Ein Deutscher']Urm.. wrong. Kerry said this:


www.debates.org
2.7 Internets to you, as well! And a fluffle. :fluffle:
Bogstonia
05-06-2005, 06:43
I dont see what the big deal over hosexuality is. As a hetero male I think that 2 guys bieng gay is two guys I dont have to compete for women with. Two women together is just great to watch. They dont produce offspring often, usually opting to adopt, which I think is great. Any financial anylist will confirm that a two income household benefits the economy more than a one income household.

So lemmie see, I get laid more, pay less to take care of people I'll never meet, enjoy a stronger economy, and get excited by watching 2 women together. I cant see the downside.

That was AWESOME!
LiazFaire
05-06-2005, 16:07
Every time I pass it, I read the thread title as "The Sexual Preference Game", which I would consider to be much more interesting.

LOL!

now that does sound like a far more... apt... title
Lunatic Goofballs
05-06-2005, 16:19
Every time I pass it, I read the thread title as "The Sexual Preference Game", which I would consider to be much more interesting.

Very. Would you play a game where 'Going to Jail' could have dire consequences?

I might risk it for the entertainment of it all.
Santa Barbara
05-06-2005, 16:52
dont see what the big deal over hosexuality is. As a hetero male I think that 2 guys bieng gay is two guys I dont have to compete for women with. Two women together is just great to watch. They dont produce offspring often, usually opting to adopt, which I think is great. Any financial anylist will confirm that a two income household benefits the economy more than a one income household.

So lemmie see, I get laid more, pay less to take care of people I'll never meet, enjoy a stronger economy, and get excited by watching 2 women together. I cant see the downside.

Actually you may not get laid more. Since all the lesbian women are now competing with you. And since you haven't got breasts or sensual curves, you and I and any other rough chiseled male can't compete with that. So it balances out the benefits of knocking the gay men out of the hetero sexpool.
LiazFaire
06-06-2005, 00:32
lets face it, theres still a *whole* lot more hetero's then queers, if you can't get laid, no matter how many gay girls are around then your obviously doing *something* wrong... although saying that a friend of mine has a bit of a hobby of seducing straight men, personally I can never be bothered with the post coital lecture on silence and how "I'm Straight, i like women" (well you seemed to like *that*quite a lot too sweetie) But hey, everyone needs a hobby.

and of course, you never know until you try ;)
[NS]Ein Deutscher
06-06-2005, 00:47
Seducing good-looking hetero guys is a fun thing to do. I did plenty of that in my teens :D