classism
Worldworkers
04-06-2005, 21:11
i have notict how people descremanaet betwen the rice and the poor and is these riet? doese these make the world the world any better thene it was before?and if so how can we fix it?and were do we start?and mybe it is only me that notises the and if os i am going it alone. truely i am apold at these kinda tretment of people.
i have notict how people descremanaet betwen the rice and the poor and is these riet? doese these make the world the world any better thene it was before?and if so how can we fix it?and were do we start?and mybe it is only me that notises the and if os i am going it alone. truely i am apold at these kinda tretment of people.
Can anyone understand what this is supposed to say?
Can anyone understand what this is supposed to say?
Hes talking class war, man. It may be misspelt, but at least he's trying
Andaluciae
04-06-2005, 21:15
Of course I discriminate between rice and the poor. Rice is a food product grown in moist conditions, the poor are people who don't have as much money as I do!
Drunk commies deleted
04-06-2005, 21:16
Personally I think it's fine to discriminate between rice and the poor. I'd hate to see the poor planted in a muddy field, beaten against a log when they've finished growing, then steamed or boiled and eaten. Likewise I wouldn't want to see sacks of rice trying to operate motor vehicles or be given the right to vote
Kroblexskij
04-06-2005, 21:17
hey dont be mean first of all,
second - english is a hard language
i have notict how people descremanaet betwen the rice and the poor and is these riet? doese these make the world the world any better thene it was before?and if so how can we fix it?and were do we start?and mybe it is only me that notises the and if os i am going it alone. truely i am apold at these kinda tretment of people.
I have noticed how people discriminate between the rich and the poor and is this right? does this make the world any better than it was before? , and if so how can we fix it?, and where do we start?, maybe it is only me that notices this and if so i am going it alone. Truely i am appauled at this kind of treatment of people
Marmite Toast
04-06-2005, 21:17
Here on NationStates we discriminate against people who can't spell properly.
Neo-Anarchists
04-06-2005, 21:18
i have notict how people descremanaet betwen the rice and the poor and is these riet? doese these make the world the world any better thene it was before?and if so how can we fix it?and were do we start?and mybe it is only me that notises the and if os i am going it alone. truely i am apold at these kinda tretment of people.
Translation, with some liberties taken:
I have noticed how many people discriminate between the rich and the poor. Is this right? Does this make the world a better place then it was before?
If it is wrong, how can we fix it? Where do we start?
Maybe it is only me that notices this, and if so, I am going it alone. I am truly appaled at this mistreatment of these people.
EDIT:
I got beaten to it. Ah well.
Drunk commies deleted
04-06-2005, 21:24
I don't think that there's all that much actual discrimination between the rich and poor. It's not like if you go to the public library they have "rich" drinking fountains and "poor" drinking fountains.
It's more like the rich can afford to go places the poor can't, live in different neighborhoods, and attend different schools. This isn't going to change, nor should it necessarily.
What we should ensure through reforms is that the rich no longer get undue influence over politicians, since this renders the concept of democratic elections pointless. Also we should ensure that the poor can get decent food, clothing, housing, medical care and education. This means making the minimum wage a living wage, protecting jobs at home, and paying adequate welfare to those who can't work.
Ashmoria
04-06-2005, 21:24
you mean besides the part where rich people are a blight on the earth sucking down resources faster than the street bum chugs cheap wine?
where they bulldoze pristine wild areas to put up their big ass 2nd (or 3rd, or 4th) houses?
where they get rich off of raping the earth of its natural resources then insist that other countries keep theirs untapped?
where they have more money than GOD but cant pay a living wage to a legal nanny?
nah youre right, they are just as good as anyone else.
Anarchic Conceptions
04-06-2005, 21:27
Here on NationStates we discriminate against people who can't spell properly.
Not really. Here on NS some discriminate against people who can't spell English properly. :)
Alien Born
04-06-2005, 21:35
Here on NationStates we discriminate against people who can't spell properly.
Tá bom. Então vou escrever numa língua em que tu não sabes se tá soletrado certo ou não, hein? Dá espaço cara pra quem não tem inglês como língua da mãe
Marmite Toast
04-06-2005, 21:38
Tá bom. Então vou escrever numa língua em que tu não sabes se tá soletrado certo ou não, hein? Dá espaço cara pra quem não tem inglês como língua da mãe
Sorry, but I don't speak that language.
Ashmoria
04-06-2005, 21:39
Tá bom. Então vou escrever numa língua em que tu não sabes se tá soletrado certo ou não, hein? Dá espaço cara pra quem não tem inglês como língua da mãe
yes but at least you spelled it all correctly
Andaluciae
04-06-2005, 21:43
Tá bom. Então vou escrever numa língua em que tu não sabes se tá soletrado certo ou não, hein? Dá espaço cara pra quem não tem inglês como língua da mãe
If you really want to man, but I'd say the informal consensus that English is the language for these forums is pretty good. Probably because it's the language I know best... But, I don't object to groups of people who were born with other languages as their mother-tongues using their language. Cheerio!
Of course I discriminate between rice and the poor. Rice is a food product grown in moist conditions, the poor are people who don't have as much money as I do!
And rice doesn't taste as salty.
Club House
04-06-2005, 23:10
you mean besides the part where rich people are a blight on the earth sucking down resources faster than the street bum chugs cheap wine?
where they bulldoze pristine wild areas to put up their big ass 2nd (or 3rd, or 4th) houses?
where they get rich off of raping the earth of its natural resources then insist that other countries keep theirs untapped?
where they have more money than GOD but cant pay a living wage to a legal nanny?
nah youre right, they are just as good as anyone else.
or maybe the part where the poor discriminate against the rich and make a bunch of stereotypical rants in the form of rhetorical questions.
Ashmoria
04-06-2005, 23:27
or maybe the part where the poor discriminate against the rich and make a bunch of stereotypical rants in the form of rhetorical questions.
yeah i feel so sorry for them, i bet my rherorical questions made them lose membership in the country club
New Granada
05-06-2005, 00:06
yeah i feel so sorry for them, i bet my rherorical questions made them lose membership in the country club
If you werent born into, or amassed enough wealth to afford to be in a country club, what right do you have to be in one?
It is an association of people of means who wish to isolate themselves from those who, on account of natural avarice, are unsafe and untrustworthy company.
It is an association of people of means who wish to isolate themselves from those who, on account of natural avarice, are unsafe and untrustworthy company.
So... the poor are necessarily more greedy than the wealthy?
Even though I can't prove the converse I feel quite safe to say that you are a moron.
New Granada
05-06-2005, 00:15
So... the poor are necessarily more greedy than the wealthy?
Even though I can't prove the converse I feel quite safe to say that you are a moron.
Cut the flaming.
The posessions of the rich are so valuable and abundant that the temptation to steal them in people who have very little is great.
Rich people need not worry about stealing one another's pens or silverware or wallets, because if they want something they can simply purchase it and do not stand to gain significantly by stealing it.
Lacadaemon
05-06-2005, 00:46
Cut the flaming.
The posessions of the rich are so valuable and abundant that the temptation to steal them in people who have very little is great.
Rich people need not worry about stealing one another's pens or silverware or wallets, because if they want something they can simply purchase it and do not stand to gain significantly by stealing it.
Plus, as Gordon Comstock so rightly observed: "The poor smell."
Well you wouldn't want that at the dinner table.....
Ashmoria
05-06-2005, 00:57
If you werent born into, or amassed enough wealth to afford to be in a country club, what right do you have to be in one?
It is an association of people of means who wish to isolate themselves from those who, on account of natural avarice, are unsafe and untrustworthy company.
i dont have a problem with rich people and their country clubs except as it takes a beautiful natural spot and bulldozes it for the amusement of the rich.
im sure if i wanted to be in the country club i could get a job there as a busboy just like any other poor person. yeah too bad they cant make other rich people do the scut work so they wont have to worry that the valet parking attendant will steal the coins from under the car seats. it makes me tear up just thinking about the risks they take!
Andaluciae
05-06-2005, 01:45
It is an association of people of means who wish to isolate themselves from those who, on account of natural avarice, are unsafe and untrustworthy company.
Perhaps you're reading a bit too far into why people join country clubs. From my experience, they join for the good golf courses, the unlimited pool uses and excellent lunches. Or am I just sticking too closely to surface reasons?
Ashmoria
05-06-2005, 01:55
Perhaps you're reading a bit too far into why people join country clubs. From my experience, they join for the good golf courses, the unlimited pool uses and excellent lunches. Or am I just sticking too closely to surface reasons?
you dont pay that kind of money so you can pay even more money for a good lunch
its for the business contacts
Andaluciae
05-06-2005, 02:02
you dont pay that kind of money so you can pay even more money for a good lunch
its for the business contacts
Certainly that plays some sort of role, but when people think about joining country clubs, they think of what they're literally paying for. When my family got an invitation to join the most elite country club, my parents decided not to because we could get almost as good golf elsewhere.
Ashmoria
05-06-2005, 02:06
Certainly that plays some sort of role, but when people think about joining country clubs, they think of what they're literally paying for. When my family got an invitation to join the most elite country club, my parents decided not to because we could get almost as good golf elsewhere.
have you considered the possibility that your parents arent social climbers?
New Granada
05-06-2005, 23:37
Perhaps you're reading a bit too far into why people join country clubs. From my experience, they join for the good golf courses, the unlimited pool uses and excellent lunches. Or am I just sticking too closely to surface reasons?
Of course, I only meant to address the "classism" that the thread mentions, though.
Dephonia
06-06-2005, 00:18
Cut the flaming.
The posessions of the rich are so valuable and abundant that the temptation to steal them in people who have very little is great.
Rich people need not worry about stealing one another's pens or silverware or wallets, because if they want something they can simply purchase it and do not stand to gain significantly by stealing it.
So you're saying that poor people are automaticall thieves? Nice.
I, personally, am legally and socially considered to be "poor". I live in a council house; I earn less than £10,000 a year; I have my university tuition fees paid by the government; I receive the maximum student loan, and a £1000 bursary to help towards books and accomodation. While i'm not poor in the homeless-beggar-living-on-the-streets-stinking-of-piss variety, i'm certainly what many people would consider to be poor. But I can quite happily tell you that I have never, ever been tempted to steal anything from anybody. If I see a car I like, for instance, which is obviously expensive, i'm not tempted to take it. Instead, it inspires me to work towards one day being able to afford one for myself. Being poor does not entail being a thief.
However, among my better-off acquaitances (sp?), I have noticed a strong tendency to cheat each other, to con each other out of money, and to outright steal goods and money (while i'm talking the odd CD/DVD or a few pounds here and there, it's still stealing). I've also noticed that they hold homeless people in contempt, and refuse to give any aid to people who "will just spend it on drugs anyway". Going solely off the attitudes of the people I know, i'm starting to hope I never become "rich". If that is what money does to you, i'd rather be poor, and keep my morals.
New Granada
06-06-2005, 01:34
So you're saying that poor people are automaticall thieves? Nice.
I, personally, am legally and socially considered to be "poor". I live in a council house; I earn less than £10,000 a year; I have my university tuition fees paid by the government; I receive the maximum student loan, and a £1000 bursary to help towards books and accomodation. While i'm not poor in the homeless-beggar-living-on-the-streets-stinking-of-piss variety, i'm certainly what many people would consider to be poor. But I can quite happily tell you that I have never, ever been tempted to steal anything from anybody. If I see a car I like, for instance, which is obviously expensive, i'm not tempted to take it. Instead, it inspires me to work towards one day being able to afford one for myself. Being poor does not entail being a thief.
However, among my better-off acquaitances (sp?), I have noticed a strong tendency to cheat each other, to con each other out of money, and to outright steal goods and money (while i'm talking the odd CD/DVD or a few pounds here and there, it's still stealing). I've also noticed that they hold homeless people in contempt, and refuse to give any aid to people who "will just spend it on drugs anyway". Going solely off the attitudes of the people I know, i'm starting to hope I never become "rich". If that is what money does to you, i'd rather be poor, and keep my morals.
You're also from the UK, which means you are more apt to be proud of and content with your station in life than americans, who hail from the nation of avarice.