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Self Esteem

Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 17:50
Do you have high or low self esteem? I'm just curious.

I'm usually somewhere in the middle, myself. Occasionally, I'll have really low self esteem for a couple of weeks, or have high self esteem for a few weeks, but it usually stays about the same.
Pure Metal
04-06-2005, 17:51
very low here :(
FairyTInkArisen
04-06-2005, 17:52
low :(
Melkor Unchained
04-06-2005, 17:52
Mine's generally pretty high, unless we're talking about women. Haven't had much luck with them, I'm afraid. Scratch that. Any luck.
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 17:57
low :(

Really? I would have thought that you had very high self esteem..... :confused:
FairyTInkArisen
04-06-2005, 18:00
Really? I would have thought that you had very high self esteem..... :confused:
that's probably because i'm more confident and stuff on the internet but i do have pretty low self esteem
Asylum Nova
04-06-2005, 18:01
Very low, female.

Part of the reason is that my honey is a genius, and extremely intelligent. Around him, I can't help but feeling more like a dumbfuck than usual. *shrug*

-Asylum Nova
Anarchtyca
04-06-2005, 18:01
Very low... especially today... :(
Liskeinland
04-06-2005, 18:02
I'm not sure what to vote for. I am a little bit paranoid, but I have recently been told that I'm not so ugly (yay!). I don't mind being alone - in fact, sometimes I prefer it. I think I'll put "varies".
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 18:02
that's probably because i'm more confident and stuff on the internet but i do have pretty low self esteem

I can kind of understand that. But it's probably the opposite for me in some ways.
Melkor Unchained
04-06-2005, 18:03
I get pretty depressed sometimes, but that's just my I Want a Woman Complex at work; in just about every other area I'm an arrogant asshole. It owns.
Rammsteinburg
04-06-2005, 18:06
I have very low self-esteem.
Eutrusca
04-06-2005, 18:06
low :(
For God's sake why??? :fluffle:
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 18:07
Now that I look at the "hovers between high and low" option it doesn't really make sense. For anyone who doesn't quite know what that means, it basically means that your self esteem is just somewhere in the middle. Not high, not low....you get the idea.
Olantia
04-06-2005, 18:08
Hmm... my first post on this forum is about my self-esteem. Well... my self-esteem seems to be pretty high. :)
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 18:10
So far the poll results are pretty close to what I expected.
Mythotic Kelkia
04-06-2005, 18:12
I never really understood what people mean by "self esteem". I'm pretty sure I always have unbelievably high self esteem, but then again I'm not entirely sure what that's supposed to mean. The only time I ever have a problem with myself is when other people criticise me, in which case I always know it's their fault, not mine. *shrugs* I just don't get it.
FairyTInkArisen
04-06-2005, 18:22
For God's sake why??? :fluffle:
i can't help it!
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 18:23
I never really understood what people mean by "self esteem". I'm pretty sure I always have unbelievably high self esteem, but then again I'm not entirely sure what that's supposed to mean. The only time I ever have a problem with myself is when other people criticise me, in which case I always know it's their fault, not mine. *shrugs* I just don't get it.

"Self esteem" is just how you feel about yourself, at least that's what I've always understood it as. Most people who have a problem with themselves don't like their appearance, social status, etc. I think most people who have really high self esteem just don't care what everyone else thinks.
Mythotic Kelkia
04-06-2005, 18:25
"Self esteem" is just how you feel about yourself, at least that's what I've always understood it as. Most people who have a problem with themselves don't like their appearance, social status, etc. I think most people who have really high self esteem just don't care what everyone else thinks.

hmm... I guess I do care what people think quite a lot - it's just that if they think something bad about about me, I get annoyed at them. They're obviously wrong :p
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 18:28
hmm... I guess I do care what people think quite a lot - it's just that if they think something bad about about me, I just get annoyed at them. They're obviously wrong :p

That's still pretty close to not caring. You care what they think, but you disregard what they say....so that's kind of the same.....sort of.....
Drunk commies deleted
04-06-2005, 18:33
Mine changes from day to day. Sometimes I'm a total badass. No problem I can't solve. Sometimes I feel like I'm screwing up everything I touch.
Pure Metal
04-06-2005, 18:33
"Self esteem" is just how you feel about yourself, at least that's what I've always understood it as. Most people who have a problem with themselves don't like their appearance, social status, etc. I think most people who have really high self esteem just don't care what everyone else thinks.
i'm pretty sure its also related to confidence, though wheter low confidence caused by other factors is a part of low self esteem, or whether low confidence is caused by low self esteem, i don't know. probably a mixture of both.

http://web.tickle.com/tests/selfesteem/

Huw, your self-esteem could use A Makeover

http://i.emode.com/tests/selfesteem/images/a_makeover_s.gif

Chin up! It looks like your self-esteem could use a lift. Changing your attitude and focusing on the positive could be just what the doctor ordered. Life's too short not to feel good about yourself.

It could be a matter of finding the things that you are good at or setting goals and achieving them. Whether you find it hard to make a decision or have an opinion, it's high time you had faith in the most important person around — you. Once you start believing in yourself, there'll be no stopping you! So tell those shadows of self-doubt to take a hike and unleash that inner superstar of yours!





http://web.tickle.com/tests/confidence/

Huw, your confidence level is low

As a result, while you may see yourself as a great, focused, or energized person some of the time, on most days you probably feel a little droopy. Because you lack confidence right now, you're probably not enjoying as rewarding a life as you might like. When you're feeling dissatisfied, you may find yourself making judgments about people you don't know or feeling jealous of others' achievements. It can be tough to feel good about the people around you when you're not happy with yourself.

Your artistic ability seems to be the trait that you most value in yourself of the five main traits that affect confidence. You also seem to appreciate this characteristic in others.
Giant Icicles
04-06-2005, 19:08
Quite low here, if anyone cares.

- Marke
Potaria
04-06-2005, 19:12
For me, it varies.

When I'm around my dad, I feel like I'm in a cage. I get very self-conscious, because I fear that if I say one wrong word, he'll do something really embarrassing (he has before, which is why I'm so self-conscious around him).

When I'm not around him, though... I'm a much different person. I'd say my self esteem in such situations is quite high, if not very.
Saxnot
04-06-2005, 19:53
Lowwww. :-/
Khudros
04-06-2005, 20:00
My self esteem fluxuates with the seasons. Really high in the summer/fall and really low in the winter/spring. So in general I'm a :) / :( kind of guy
Zotona
04-06-2005, 20:06
I tend to have fairly high self-esteem, but there are always a few people who somehow manage to lower it-I love them anyway.
No endorse
04-06-2005, 20:07
Self esteem? I'm a huge nerd! By law we're not allowed to have it.
Bonferoni
04-06-2005, 20:21
Pretty low self-esteem....I'm working on it, but it is a hard thing to raise
San haiti
04-06-2005, 20:28
Used to have pretty high self esteem but its been rather low for the past year or so.
Solel
04-06-2005, 21:13
Self esteem? I'm a huge nerd! By law we're not allowed to have it.

Lies. I'm one myself, and it's always seemed to me that we should in fact have extremely high self-esteem (I do), for we possess a few extremely valuable and marketable resources.

One point: any speculation as to why no female has registered as "high"? Perhaps the "culture" has something to do with it?
Das Rocket
04-06-2005, 21:35
I feel pretty, oh so pretty.....
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 22:29
I can't believe there isn't one woman with high self esteem on this forum. There's got to be someone.
Jordaxia
04-06-2005, 22:32
I can't believe there isn't one woman with high self esteem on this forum. There's got to be someone.

I will, just gimme a few years. I'm kinda stuck on the wrong side of the gender divide in all but mind.

'course, it doesn't stop me voting female in all other polls, but the point is that it causes me severe depression etc, so my esteem isn't THAT high at the moment. But it will be.
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 22:50
Did I miss something here?
Marmite Toast
04-06-2005, 22:50
Self-esteem rocks. I recommend it to everyone.
Jordaxia
04-06-2005, 22:55
Did I miss something here?


This seems out of place. What do you think you missed? My response is the only thing between it, so I thiiiink you're talking to me, but I don't know what you're asking if it is me you're talking about. Otherwise I am confused.
Evil Arch Conservative
04-06-2005, 23:04
Everyone has their moments of self-doubt, but generally I think I'm about the most capable person I know. I'd say my self-esteem is pretty high. Oddly enough, I have lower self-esteem on internet forums then I do in most real life situations. I feel that I need to hold myself to a much higher standard, intellectually, here then I do in real life since the concentration of intelligent and more importantly informed people here is much higher then elsewhere. I often catch myself feeling that it's not possible for me to reach that high, and when I think about it I guess that's true. At least, I can't often spout off something interesting off the top of my head. I have a lot to learn.
Ikitiok
04-06-2005, 23:15
Mine varies; I don't have a particularly high opinion of myself, which I find it difficult to talk to my friends about as they just think it nuts & that so doesn't help!

I'm on a high atm cos I got good stuff goign on at work but I'm also really low cos I'm extremely lonely &, whilst guys find me attractive, there just doesn't seem to anyone around who's interested in being wth me :(
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 23:26
This seems out of place. What do you think you missed? My response is the only thing between it, so I thiiiink you're talking to me, but I don't know what you're asking if it is me you're talking about. Otherwise I am confused.

I'm not understanding what you said about the whole gender divide thing.......
Marmite Toast
04-06-2005, 23:29
I'm not trying to insult women here, but women do seem to depend more on others (emotionally at least), and I would consider a lack of self-reliance to be detrimental to self-esteem.
Jordaxia
04-06-2005, 23:32
I'm not understanding what you said about the whole gender divide thing.......


oh, right! Sorry 'bout that, it was a little joke. I'm pre-treatment MTF Transsexual. At the moment if you were to be picky, I'd have to put in the male option in the poll, and I'd say I had fairly high self esteem on average. However given that I am prone to depressions regarding certain aspects of my life that I am pretty much powerless to help right now, I'd have to say low. However, after these events have been sorted, then I will be happier and my self esteem will be improved.

Hopefully that clears everything up.
Suicidal Librarians
04-06-2005, 23:48
oh, right! Sorry 'bout that, it was a little joke. I'm pre-treatment MTF Transsexual. At the moment if you were to be picky, I'd have to put in the male option in the poll, and I'd say I had fairly high self esteem on average. However given that I am prone to depressions regarding certain aspects of my life that I am pretty much powerless to help right now, I'd have to say low. However, after these events have been sorted, then I will be happier and my self esteem will be improved.

Hopefully that clears everything up.

That's what I thought you meant. I was still a little unclear though.
Phylum Chordata
05-06-2005, 02:05
I never really got the concept of self esteem. We didn't really have it where I grew up, but I've talked to Americans about it. It's seems to be a common concept in the U.S. I'd say that I don't find it a useful concept. From what I understand you feel high self esteem when you are praised or when you do well? Does that mean you should feel low self esteem when you are cursed or do badly? That sounds like a bit of a bummer. I am what I am. How well or how badly I do doesn't change that. I try to do the best I can and enjoy myself no matter how many disasters I've created.

So when I make a mistake I might feel bad about the mistake, but I'll try not to feel bad about myself. I try not to tell myself that I am bad. It's the same when I do something good. I'll enjoy the feeling I get when I do something good, but I generally don't tell myself that I am good because of it.
Marmite Toast
05-06-2005, 02:09
I never really got the concept of self esteem. We didn't really have it where I grew up, but I've talked to Americans about it. It's seems to be a common concept in the U.S. I'd say that I don't find it a useful concept. From what I understand you feel high self esteem when you are praised or when you do well? Does that mean you should feel low self esteem when you are cursed or do badly? That sounds like a bit of a bummer. I am what I am. How well or how badly I do doesn't change that. I try to do the best I can and enjoy myself no matter how many disasters I've created.

I don't think you understand the concept. Self-esteem is feeling good about yourself. There's no conditions - it's not "feeling good about yourself when X and feeling bad when Y". It's very closely related to self-confidence. You seem to have self-esteem.
Jjuulliiaann
05-06-2005, 02:09
Mine swings around a bit.
Phylum Chordata
05-06-2005, 02:23
It's very closely related to self-confidence.

I'm afraid I don't really get self-confidence either. I can be confident that I can bake a good cake because I've done it many times before, but I don't see how I can be self-confident. Does that mean I'm always confident that I will do well? I don't know about other people, but if I felt confident that I would always do well, I'd be deluding myself. Rather than having a generalized self confidence I think it may be more helpful to talk about situational confidence. I am confident of doing well at X, rather I am confident of doing well no matter what.

Of course, I admitt I am not fully confident in my understanding of self confidence.
Marmite Toast
05-06-2005, 02:27
I'm afraid I don't really get self-confidence either. I can be confident that I can bake a good cake because I've done it many times before, but I don't see how I can be self-confident. Does that mean I'm always confident that I will do well? I don't know about other people, but if I felt confident that I would always do well, I'd be deluding myself. Rather than having a generalized self confidence I think it may be more helpful to talk about situational confidence. I am confident of doing well at X, rather I am confident of doing well no matter what.

Of course, I admitt I am not fully confident in my understanding of self confidence.

From reading your post you sound pretty self-confident. It's basically a psychological thing. People who walk along looking at the floor, worrying what people think about them are not self-confident, for example.
Suicidal Librarians
05-06-2005, 03:20
bump
Commie Catholics
05-06-2005, 03:27
I've got pretty low self-esteem. I'm afraid of new people. Although my confidence can get pretty damn high when I'm around my friends. When I'm at home my esteem normally hits rock bottom and starts tunnelling.
Celtlund
05-06-2005, 03:28
Mine is very high but that might be due to my age. I've accomplished a lot in my life, have a great job that I am very competent doing, and am fairly well off but not rich.
Commie Catholics
05-06-2005, 03:32
Mine is very high but that might be due to my age. I've accomplished a lot in my life, have a great job that I am very competent doing, and am fairly well off but not rich.

What job is that? Mathematician? I'd love to be a mathematician.
Drakedia
05-06-2005, 03:34
I'm pre-treatment MTF Transsexual.

That actually made me wince...

Why can't peple just be normal these days? :(
Jordaxia
05-06-2005, 03:38
That actually made me wince...

Why can't peple just be normal these days? :(


Tried it for 18 years. Didn't work. If you don't like it, you don't have to make a nasty comment about it. Besides, variety is the norm. We aren't robots. It'd be really freaky if I was the stereotype of a person.... I'd hate that.
Drakedia
05-06-2005, 03:45
Sorry if it looked like a nasty comment, I wasn't trying for that. I just see those operations as very wrong, even to the point of evil. The world seems to have worked ok without people having the ability to change their gender, do we really need to change now? This world is such a sick place...
Nadkor
05-06-2005, 03:46
Sorry if it looked like a nasty comment, I wasn't trying for that. I just see those operations as very wrong, even top the point of evil. The world seems to have worked ok without people having the ability to change their gender, do we really need to change now? This world is such a sick place...
thats because beforehand people just went off and quietly killed themselves. that was ok. now that they can get help theyre an abomination.
Subterfuges
05-06-2005, 03:49
It would be nice if I had no esteem at all.
Celtlund
05-06-2005, 03:50
What job is that? Mathematician? I'd love to be a mathematician.

I have a job as an avionics (aviation electronics) engineer with a leading manufacturer of flight simulators. The kind of sims that are used to train pilots.
Jordaxia
05-06-2005, 03:53
Sorry if it looked like a nasty comment, I wasn't trying for that. I just see those operations as very wrong, even to the point of evil. The world seems to have worked ok without people having the ability to change their gender, do we really need to change now? This world is such a sick place...

Not really. Tell me, have you ever heard of the fifty percent rule? It's quite morbid. Essentially, 50% of transsexuals die before they reach 30.

A mortality rate of fifty percent, and that's WITH the ability to change. What do you think will happen without it. With it, people become happier, we feel we are remade, almost to what we were always supposed to be. It's not a sick, or wrong thing, and it most certainly isn't evil. It saves lives, and creates people who can be, and feel useful.

Without it, they are doomed. Just because a problem wasn't so documented in the past, doesn't mean it didn't exist. The native Americans had a method of crushing the testes to perform crude MTF proceedures, and there was a Roman cult which involved ritual genital removal, with the "men" taking on roles as women.

We've just applied science to it. It's all for the good.
Commie Catholics
05-06-2005, 03:55
I have a job as an avionics (aviation electronics) engineer with a leading manufacturer of flight simulators. The kind of sims that are used to train pilots.

I certainly hope that the part in brackets wasn't meant to insult my intelligence. I do know what avionics is. Well, I suppose you had to go to Uni for a course in electronics then. I'm considering that. How difficult is it?
Drakedia
05-06-2005, 04:00
You think it's right I think it's wrong. You won't win me over and I won't win you over so lets drop it. Sorry for the off topic posts.
Commie Catholics
05-06-2005, 04:02
You think it's right I think it's wrong. You won't win me over and I won't win you over so lets drop it. Sorry for the off topic posts.

No, You Shut Up!
Bottle
05-06-2005, 04:06
Do you have high or low self esteem? I'm just curious.

I'm usually somewhere in the middle, myself. Occasionally, I'll have really low self esteem for a couple of weeks, or have high self esteem for a few weeks, but it usually stays about the same.
I tend to have a low opinion of myself, but I think it is deserved (from an objective point of view) so I don't know if that's a self esteem "problem" or not. I mean, is it low self esteem if you are right about being lowly? :)
Bottle
05-06-2005, 04:08
Sorry if it looked like a nasty comment, I wasn't trying for that. I just see those operations as very wrong, even to the point of evil. The world seems to have worked ok without people having the ability to change their gender, do we really need to change now? This world is such a sick place...
The world also worked just fine before antibiotics, before cars, before TV, before microwave dinners. Are they also very wrong or evil?
Cabra West
05-06-2005, 04:38
Really, really low. Sometimes even lower...
Suicidal Librarians
05-06-2005, 16:02
It looks like there are women (or should I say woman) on NS that actually have high self esteem.
The Emperor Fenix
05-06-2005, 16:16
My self esteem is low, in the secure knowledge that i, and everyone around me, are utterly worthless individuals who will very likely do much more harm than good and in the end none of us will make any difference relative to the length of the universe.
Suicidal Librarians
05-06-2005, 16:30
Okay..........
Taldaan
05-06-2005, 16:35
Low. Very low. But hey, I probably deserve it.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-06-2005, 16:36
Do you have high or low self esteem? I'm just curious.

I'm usually somewhere in the middle, myself. Occasionally, I'll have really low self esteem for a couple of weeks, or have high self esteem for a few weeks, but it usually stays about the same.

I doubt I would have lasted half as long being me if I didn't enjoy me so much. :)
Willamena
05-06-2005, 18:07
I doubt I would have lasted half as long being me if I didn't enjoy me so much. :)
Ditto
Lisisan
05-06-2005, 18:52
Mine varies between really high and really low- female
Celtlund
05-06-2005, 20:11
I certainly hope that the part in brackets wasn't meant to insult my intelligence. I do know what avionics is. Well, I suppose you had to go to Uni for a course in electronics then. I'm considering that. How difficult is it?

No, it wasn't meant to insult you at all. Over the years I have found that most people don't know the definition of avionics, even some in the electronics field don't know. Therefore, I usually put the definition in brackets.

I did go to college and have a BS in General Studies with a major in business and a Masters in education. I was trained in avionics in the military, worked on avionics in the field for 26 years, and then taught it for 13 years before getting the engineering job.

If you are good in math and physics, you won't have much of a problem with avionics or any other area of electronics. The only problem is the technology is changing so fast it is difficult to keep up with. Once you get to the avionics coursed, the materials being used to teach are systems that are 5 to 10 years old. The systems cost so much it is very difficult for schools to have the latest technology available so they rely on donations which is generally outdated equipment.