NationStates Jolt Archive


Leaders

Super-power
02-06-2005, 20:44
The further a ruler geopolitically is from the citizens he/she is governing, the less likely that the ruler really cares about those people, or the issues affecting them.
Ashmoria
02-06-2005, 20:49
i agree (supposing that i understand what you mean by geopolitically)

but that is not always a bad thing. disinterest can mean that he can be an impartial judge of things.
Quadriigus
02-06-2005, 20:53
i agree (supposing that i understand what you mean by geopolitically)

but that is not always a bad thing. disinterest can mean that he can be an impartial judge of things.

Ah, but disinterest can mean that he'll choose the wrong decicion because he doesn't really care what happens to his people.
Super-power
03-06-2005, 02:48
Bump
Bogstonia
03-06-2005, 03:08
Good question, though call though. I really think a lot of it has to do with the type of person the ruler is, some people would try and do what is best for everyone, even those they don't empathise with directly. While others simply lack that compassion for everyone.

However, saying that, a person's background will also affect their priorities. A ruler who grew up poor would be more motivated to help the poor. Where as a ruler that grew up wealthy may hold the need to help the poor lower on their list of priorities. It's no so much about the level of 'caring' but the amount of information [through personal experience] they have.
Ashmoria
03-06-2005, 03:09
Ah, but disinterest can mean that he'll choose the wrong decicion because he doesn't really care what happens to his people.
it might

or it might mean that, if he wants to be a good leader, he wont make the wrong choice because he has some personal stake in the whole thing.

conflict of interest is a powerful incentive to prefer one solution over another
31
03-06-2005, 03:11
Nice set-up for a later argument SP! Getting some numbers down even from hardcore supporters of an organization we all know of. Maybe you should have made the votes public to further be able to poiint out a persons choice later. ;)
Ashmoria
03-06-2005, 03:23
Nice set-up for a later argument SP! Getting some numbers down even from hardcore supporters of an organization we all know of. Maybe you should have made the votes public to further be able to poiint out a persons choice later. ;)
inquiring minds want to know...wtf are you talking about?
31
03-06-2005, 03:28
inquiring minds want to know...wtf are you talking about?

the UN. If it is to become a world government it would be the government whose members were furthest removed from the population, being the highest level.
Niccolo Medici
03-06-2005, 03:30
I live 3000 miles from the seat of power in my nation, and I'll tell ya, nobody gives a good damn one way or another about this place until election day.
Ashmoria
03-06-2005, 03:33
the UN. If it is to become a world government it would be the government whose members were furthest removed from the population, being the highest level.
ahhhhhh

as if THATS the biggest reason to not have the UN run the world
Anarchic Conceptions
03-06-2005, 03:35
The further a ruler geopolitically is from the citizens he/she is governing, the less likely that the ruler really cares about those people, or the issues affecting them.

I don't agree. Though I certainly understand how one would reach such a statement. It is hard for anyone to empathise with someone they don't know who lives (possibly) thousands of miles away.

Unsurprising, I think that no (or close to no) leader really cares about the people they are governing. And if anything, the amount a leader cares is more dependant on the system more than anything else.
31
03-06-2005, 03:36
ahhhhhh

as if THATS the biggest reason to not have the UN run the world

Don't get me started on the blue hats. . .why, if I wasn't such a lazy person I would actually try to post things about them and argue and stuff!
Ashmoria
03-06-2005, 03:48
Don't get me started on the blue hats. . .why, if I wasn't such a lazy person I would actually try to post things about them and argue and stuff!
BLUE HATS?

never heard of them, have i been living in a cave??
Patra Caesar
03-06-2005, 03:50
BLUE HATS?

never heard of them, have i been living in a cave??

The UN forces wear blue hats.
31
03-06-2005, 03:58
The UN forces wear blue hats.

Baby blue, it is soooooooooo funny.
Patra Caesar
03-06-2005, 04:04
I don't think the UN should be a world government, I think if the need for a world government ever becomes apparent, and providing the politicians don't ignore the need, they should set up a new body so it can operate under rules that were set for it and with the knowledge gained from analysis of the UN's errors and weaknesses. The UN however still serves an important role in today's world and should continue to do so, it is a forum for international dialogue.
Super-power
03-06-2005, 19:39
One last BUMP to see if any more ppl respond to the poll....then something happens!
DrunkenDove
03-06-2005, 19:55
One last BUMP to see if any more ppl respond to the poll....then something happens!

*plays dramatic music*