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I see serial rape/murder in this kid's future.



www.wnbc.com/news/4539371/detail.html

EWWWW....a little WARNING DC!!!

And you can show a minor's picture in the US? Weird!

EWWWW....a little WARNING DC!!!

And you can show a minor's picture in the US? Weird!
That's weird. I didn't put two and two together. He's 17, charged with 3 sex crimes, and his picture is on the internet.

That's weird. I didn't put two and two together. He's 17, charged with 3 sex crimes, and his picture is on the internet.

Maybe 16 is the cutoff age for being anonymous where he lives.

yeah all the beuracracy crap from state to state and to federal is really messed up. :headbang:

charged with buggery

:confused:

I didn't know buggery was illegal… bestiality yes, but surely if it was classed as buggery it wouldn't be illegal? Or am I misunderstanding the meaning of buggery?

Other than that: yuerkk.

:confused:
That raised my eyebrows to. Is that just for bestiality...or could it be applied to ALL those who bugger?

Next time place a warning. My mom just happened to walk by :mad:

lol - I actually had to look it up to find out it meant sodomy

:confused:
Molesting or raping animals, beastliality basically.

lol - I actually had to look it up to find out it meant sodomy
I found that out in fifth grade when I got in trouble for calling people 'buggers' in class. Boy was the teacher embarassed when I wouldn't stop saying it until he explained what it meant!

Molesting or raping animals, beastliality basically.

I saw a different definition that said nothing about beastiality.

Molesting or raping animals, beastliality basically.
Nope. That's bestiality. Buggery is sodomy is anal sex. Which means, anyone engaging in anal sex in this state could conceivably be charged under the same law.

I found that out in fifth grade when I got in trouble for calling people 'buggers' in class. Boy was the teacher embarassed when I wouldn't stop saying it until he explained what it meant!


hah! why am I not surprised? :p

not similarly, I was putting the swastika on all my school papers next to my name in the 4th grade because I saw the symbol and thought it was awesome (I had no idea what it represented). that got me a long lecture.

I have just one thing to say,
WHAT THE FUCK?!!!!!?!!!ONE!!!!?!111!!?!
Now he's ruined it for the rest of us.

I didn't know buggery was illegal… bestiality yes, but surely if it was classed as buggery it wouldn't be illegal? Or am I misunderstanding the meaning of buggery?

Other than that: yuerkk.

South Carolina is sending a strong message to its population of perverts. If you're gonna screw your pooch, it better be in the cooch. I think they had Johnnie Cochran write that one up before he died.

Better yet, stop raping puppies, four year olds and thirteen year olds.

This kid needs some serious help.

I have just one thing to say,
WHAT THE FUCK?!!!!!?!!!ONE!!!!?!111!!?!
Now he's ruined it for the rest of us.
Lol :)

Looking at the kids picture .... all I can think is ....

Poor puppy

In law 'buggery' includes bestiality as well as sodomy, whichever way he did it. :)

It wouldn't ahve been bad if the animal was older and had shown it's consent.

Man, in my neighborhood we would have shot him already.

Serial killer, perhaps not. But it he ain't corrected then he'll probably end up being a serial rapist or something.

It wouldn't ahve been bad if the animal was older and had shown it's consent.

What are you on about? Animals never show consent (check the law) as they cannot communicate with humans directly. Him f*cking that dog was as bad as f*ckin' a toddler because his victim could not speak.

blah!
Look, it's nothing similer to pedophilia, don't lump things into one category.

It's complicated to explain but an animal can show it's love, like how dogs and humans can be part of a single pack.

Or something, I dunno, I can't argue or explain without using mouth words and you'll probably just shout at me.

That kid has the blankest, emptiest eyes I've ever seen. Thousand yard stare? More like fifty thousand yard stare.

Better yet, stop raping puppies, four year olds and thirteen year olds.

This kid needs some serious help.

however,and this is not a slam against religious people,i am somewhat religous...more spiritual then anything..but i would not be suprised one bit if he was raised in a hardcore..sex is dirty...you will burn in hellfire and whatnot for thinking evil sexual thoughts,type enviroment.
i had major sexual hangups due to a strict religous upbringing,as did most of my friends.i am by no means saying what he did is ok by any stretch,and i do find it abhorrent behaviour,however i was blessed to have somewhat open minded parents..just my enviro was very,very..puratanicall.
alot of my friends,well some..became first class perverts.
it is my opinion,that the ones who shout the loudest about how evil everyone else are..are covering for there own weaknessess and perversions.the pedophile priest comes to mind.
the boy needs major help,no doubt....jail...just gonna make him a sicko when he inevitably gets out. :headbang:

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I was never taught anythign about sex, about what was bad and what was good, I never had anyone saying "sex with gays is bad" or "sex with other races is bad" or any other prejudice, and I've become a very caring, emotional, open minded being. Though I support the campaign for nuclear disarmament, want peace and oppose the government, yet still work infantry. But otherwise I'm completely fine mentally, so yeah, it must be when you try to interfere that you screw up your kid.

By blank, did you mean that his eyes show no sense of focus? My eyes look very focussed and "cold". A friend of mine commented that when I first looked at him, it was like an SS officer inspecting a group of new arrivals to the concentration camp. Due to my thick eyelids, my eyes do have a shine.

It's complicated to explain but an animal can show it's love, like how dogs and humans can be part of a single pack.

Or something, I dunno, I can't argue or explain without using mouth words and you'll probably just shout at me.

It is still taboo and absolutely unnatural to f*ck a mutt.

blah!
Why does naturality have to be bought into everything.... I suppose you think I shouldn't be in love with a dude or use projectile weapons.

By blank, did you mean that his eyes show no sense of focus? My eyes look very focussed and "cold". A friend of mine commented that when I first looked at him, it was like an SS officer inspecting a group of new arrivals to the concentration camp. Due to my thick eyelids, my eyes do have a shine.


Naahh, by blank I mean blank as the eyes of someone very murderous and brutal. The kind of person who can look right through you as if you don't exist. A FUCKING LUNATIC is another term I've seen used.

BTW, reminding someone of an SS Officer is nothing to brag about. They were cold brutal bastards who had to pass exams used to determine if they were heartless and brutal enough to be in the SS. I father had an uncle who was an and comer in the SS Officers Ranks. When he took his last leave his own family was so disgusted with him that when his leave ended and he was sent to certain death in Russia, they breathed a sigh of relief at having never to see the bastard again. Thats the kind of people were in the SS.

I understand why you love aesthic. The whole Nazi look is very sharp and designed to imapart a sense of importance and power But if you'd just ignore the enitre swastika, SS logos and other offensive symbols and maybe make your own, people won't be so offended, and you'd have done some thing original and creative? Eh? Non?

But the look is really appealing. Thats what the whole point behind all Nazi imagery.

*gack, cough, spit*

Christ, that's gross.

Shoot the dog, shoot the kid, everyone's happy.

Don't shoot the dog, it was raped.

Would you shoot some dude that got raped? (yes, I said dude, not girl, don't stereotype saying only girls get raped)

I hate my eyes being so blank and staring, it scares people, I want to have normal eyes.

the boy needs major help,no doubt....jail...just gonna make him a sicko when he inevitably gets out. :headbang:

I never said jail -- just help. Serious help. Now.

I never said jail -- just help. Serious help. Now.
I saw a phsychiatrist first time when I was younger when I wrote a porn story and showed it to my friend (who asked to see it) well, they showed it to a teacher and I had to see a counseller/phsychiatrist dude.

Within 2 minutes we established that I knew it was a wrong thing to do, and that I intended it to be sorta private, I didn't intend for it to be spread around the school or whatever, and in the second session it was concluded that I had no problems.

Since then I've had to had phsyche screenings every now and then for job-related reasons and the only thing that's come up is bloodlust.

But I still have people (well, only like 4 people) that keep insisting that I need to find proffesional help about some of the things I tlak to about them, despite there being nothing wrong with me.

This guy may not need serious help, but if his sexual atractions violate the law, he should learn not to partake in them, what he does inside his head is fine, and maybe he realised what he was doing was wrong, but he could have acted spontaneously and when his urges became to great (maybe he was hit upside the head the second he was suspected of jackin off when he was younger and thus, had no alternative to get rid of his feelings) and now I'm sort of forgetting where I was going with this.

(insert closing point here)

Sick little turd, oh wait, of course hes not sick, just misunderstood. He can be rehabilitated back into society one day, and a make a valuble contribution nods wisely :rolleyes:
Just shoot the scumbag before he hurts more kids.

I saw a phsychiatrist first time when I was younger when I wrote a porn story and showed it to my friend (who asked to see it) well, they showed it to a teacher and I had to see a counseller/phsychiatrist dude.
Within 2 minutes we established that I knew it was a wrong thing to do, and that I intended it to be sorta private, I didn't intend for it to be spread around the school or whatever, and in the second session it was concluded that I had no problems.
Since then I've had to had phsyche screenings every now and then for job-related reasons and the only thing that's come up is bloodlust.
But I still have people (well, only like 4 people) that keep insisting that I need to find proffesional help about some of the things I tlak to about them, despite there being nothing wrong with me.
This guy may not need serious help, but if his sexual atractions violate the law, he should learn not to partake in them, what he does inside his head is fine, and maybe he realised what he was doing was wrong, but he could have acted spontaneously and when his urges became to great (maybe he was hit upside the head the second he was suspected of jackin off when he was younger and thus, had no alternative to get rid of his feelings) and now I'm sort of forgetting where I was going with this.
(insert closing point here)

Maybe hes just a fucked up little turd!
I feel sorry for his poor parents.

*gack, cough, spit*

Christ, that's gross.

Shoot the dog, shoot the kid, everyone's happy.

F*ck yeah!

What choice did it have?

That dog certainly did not give consent, and neither did the girls he raped.

:confused:


I noticed the same thing. (Buggery)

But IF all those things that article said about him Are true.. the boys got some problems.

I predict arson.

I predict arson.

I don't think that's the case unless he has a previous history of arsons or that he likes to destroy things (which the article did not say). I predict that he'll become a serial rapist if the authorities don't correct him.

No! Didn't ya read the article? The criminal raped two girls and now he raped the dog.

Actually, it was "criminal sexual conduct", which doesn't purtain only to rape.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4494/PA/US/1

Umm...yeah, so, I live here. Read the article, then ask me how they got caught...

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4494/PA/US/1

Umm...yeah, so, I live here. Read the article, then ask me how they got caught...

How did they get caught?

The guy was originally suspected of manufacturing meth. When the cops executed the search warrant on the place, they confiscated videotapes. Meth manufacturers often (for some stupid reason) record the manufacturing process. When they later viewed the tapes, guess what they found? Fido making sweet doggy love to the gals, with Dougie-boy helping out.

Gawd, I love Venango County.

This guy may not need serious help, but if his sexual atractions violate the law, he should learn not to partake in them, what he does inside his head is fine, and maybe he realised what he was doing was wrong, but he could have acted spontaneously and when his urges became to great (maybe he was hit upside the head the second he was suspected of jackin off when he was younger and thus, had no alternative to get rid of his feelings) and now I'm sort of forgetting where I was going with this.
Ignoring the 13year old for a minute (she could have given consent, even if not legally), this guy had sexual contact with a four year old that could really mess said four year old up, and she certainly couldn't give consent. Now tell me that even thinking that is acceptable.

Since there are some Pratchett fans on this forum:

Bestiality sure is a fun thing to do
But I have to say this as a warning to you:
With almost all animals, you can have a ball
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

CHORUS 1:
The spines on his back are too sharp for a man
They'll give you a pain in the worst place they can
The result I think you'll find will appall:
The hedgehog can never be buggered at all!

Mounting a horse can often be fun
An elephant too; though he weighs half a ton
Even a mouse (though his hole is quite small)
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

CHORUS 2:
The spines on his back are so awful thick
you'll end up with naught but a painful prick.
He has an impregnable hole when curled up in a ball,
Hence the hedgehog can never be buggered at all!

Screwing a cow while she goes moo-moo
Will be entertaining to both her and you
Or you might try a tiger, if you have enough gall
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 1

A fish is refreshing, although a bit wet
And a cat or a dog can be more than a pet
Even a giraffe (despite being so tall)
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 2

You can manage a snake, though its poison might kill
It's amazing how humping a camel will thrill
You can go with a snail if you slow to a crawl
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 1

You can ravish a sloth but it would take all night
With a shark it is faster, but the darned beast might bite
We already mentioned the horse, you may recall
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 2

You can roger a skunk if you can stand the smell
Or even an oyster, should he let go of his shell
A troll can be rocky if down you should fall
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 1

For slippery fun, you can cornhole an otter
Or pego a pig after parting his trotters
Or tumble a tapir, though the prospect appall
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 2

For prosimian fun, you can bugger a lemur
To bolster your name as a pervert and schemer
The lemurs cry "Frink!" as a coy mating call
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 1

Antipodean pranks - you can futter a wombat
Or strive with a 'roo in venereal combat
Or hump a goanna - go on, do it all
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 2

A moose is amusing, a squid quite confusing
Or try on a rhino if you fancy a bruising,
Or mountin' a mountain goat (careful, don't fall!)
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 1

You could thrust with a thrush if you fancy a climb,
Or pork a few piglets if you have the time,
A skinhead's pet cat if you don't mind a brawl,
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 2

A sheep that's named 'Flossy' is warm you shall see,
You can try with a wasp, you can try with a bee.
You can hump with the dog that sleeps in the hall,
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 1

A lion is frisky, a leopard is fun,
But to keep up with them you may have to run.
You'll be liked by the fleas at the flea-market stall,
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

REPEAT CHORUS 2

A hippo is funny but take care if underneath,
A pirhana is pleasant but watch out for his teeth.
Get a rodent, they can be found in the mall,
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

This is the alt.fan.pratchett version of the Hedgehog Song. The original version was thought up by Matthew Crosby, and has since then been streamlined and expanded by readers of the newsgroup.

Another version - with music- can be found here:

http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/pages/tiHEDGEHOG;ttDUNDEBON.html

That song is mean! I don't normally laugh at something as traumatic as bestiality, but your song is quite funny.

If you can turn the hedgehog inside out, it could possibly be buggered.
Not that I'd do either.

If you can turn the hedgehog inside out, it could possibly be buggered.
Not that I'd do either.

Why are you folks talking about buggery here? What that kid do was wrong!!!

Why are you folks talking about buggery here? What that kid do was wrong!!!

Please define "wrong". ;)

Actually there's a 13 year old boy on the sex offender list in, I believe, Texas.

Why are you folks talking about buggery here? What that kid do was wrong!!!

The bestiality is only morally wrong if you agree that animals have certain rights. Considering our society makes extensive use of the bio-industry and animal testing of medication, this opinion does not seem to be held by it - or at least not in a consistent manner. Feel free to start a topic on animal rights though - there are *lots* of arguments in favour, and if you can keep the "screw greenies! " people out it makes quite an interesting debate.

Unless you meant the bestiality was wrong because he abused someone elses property of course.

As far as his abusing of minors is concerned - that was a sidenote in the article. And clearly deemed wrong by societies morals.

Well. Gartref manages to make me laugh my ass off once more.


Anyhoo....The topic at hand. Sodomy (or buggery as it is called in the article) is, in the legal sense (at least here in the states, and especially in the South) not merely anal sex. It encompasses anything that isn't standard heterosexual penis-in-vagina intercourse; it may also disclude oral sex. What I'm saying is, that when the article says "He is charged with buggery", they mean "He is charged with abnormal sexual behaviour, which includes but is not limited to beastiality, necrophilia, and anal intercourse", not "He is charged with having anal intercourse with a dog, so, 'cause it was anal, we have to charge him." It may or may not've been in the dog's pooper; it doesn't matter, legally. It was with a dog. That's sodomy/buggery by legal definition.

Just thought I'd clear that up. It was something I learned last year, and was surprised about. Always thought sodomy only meant anal.

One other thing. I will bet anyone that that kid has something called "reactive attachment disorder", or "RAD". I've dealt with many foster kids with RAD, and they have that same brightness/dullness dichotomy to their eyes. They believe that they have to constantly be aware of all situations around them so that they can control the situation. I don't know why their eyes are like that, but I've seen it in every kid with this disorder (they never bond with the mother properly, which fucks them up as bad as anything can that early on), and I recognize those eyes. That eye-appearance is really sort of hard to explain. All I can say is, I've seen it too many times to disquanitify it as coincidence. Look at Geoffery Dommer. He was a RAD kid, I believe (started out that way). Look at his eyes.

Anyways, I'm ranting about the eyes, but the real indicator of RAD is the behaviour. I work at a group home, I've read files, dealt with these kids (none that are this far gone), and can guarantee that that child never properly bonded with his first immediate care-taker.


Serial killer is not a bad guess regarding his future, if someone does not intercede and get him on medication, get him under lock and key. A high-maintenance mental health facility (many of which are not unlike prisons, only with medications) and really really really competent psychiatric doctors (in short supply) might have a chance of setting the kid straight. And lots and lots of meds. I'm not talking about simple bleeding-heart talk-it-out reform, I'm talking about heavy, painfull, pragmatic intensive treatment. The alternative is to have him destroyed. I mean that literally. There is little to no chance that he will ever have any use to society, and will be a detriment to himself and others for the entirety of his life if he is simply put in prison. Reformat him or kill him. And if you think that that sounds harsh, remember his name, and follow his career as the press covers it. See what he becomes if he is merely put into prison and eventually released. Seriously. We will see his name again if he is just put into prison. Keep track and see what happens.

In the famous dying words of Church from Red vs Blue.

Herg!!!! BLAH!!!!!!

Seriously thats disturbing...

Gartref, stop hijacking.

Better yet, stop raping puppies, four year olds and thirteen year olds.

This kid needs some serious help.

I have a weapon that's willing to help

I have a weapon that's willing to help
High velocity lead therapy has been shown to be 100% effective in situations like this.

High velocity lead therapy has been shown to be 100% effective in situations like this.

Indeed!

This dude should have been put under lock and key and casterated when he raped the first girl. Seriously, I have a lot of compassion and tolerance for people, but not when they rape little girls. WHY IS HE EVEN ON THE STREETS WHEN HE RAPED TWO LITTLE GIRLS? The dog thing should have NEVER happened.... period. He shouldn't be allowed in our society right now.... or ever.

This dude should have been put under lock and key and casterated when he raped the first girl. Seriously, I have a lot of compassion and tolerance for people, but not when they rape little girls. WHY IS HE EVEN ON THE STREETS WHEN HE RAPED TWO LITTLE GIRLS? The dog thing should have NEVER happened.... period. He shouldn't be allowed in our society right now.... or ever.

Its the sign of a more understanding, and open minded society m8...(sarcasm) looking after pieces of shit like this has been placed as more important than what he did to his victims, or plans on doing to others.

1. I bet he'll be very popular in prison
2. Who thinks he was pondering violating the Camera when the photographer made this photograph?

"That's a nice shutter you got there, you come here often?"
"I bet y'all got a nice zoom lens too!"

Only in The US, and furthermore, only in the South :rolleyes:

This kid's a prime candidate for chemical castration. Locking him up for about ninety years sounds like a fantastic idea.

High velocity lead therapy has been shown to be 100% effective in situations like this.
is it just me or do all solutions in these types of threads eventually come down to homocide.

is it just me or do all solutions in these types of threads eventually come down to homocide.

Remember, an eye for an eye, a tooth for tooth. There's not going to be any point in having the dog rape him back (in cases like these, two wrongs don't make a right), so let's just shoot the bastard and get it done quickly.

I would be very concerned if this kid's actions inspire copy-cat crimes!

is it just me or do all solutions in these types of threads eventually come down to homocide.
Sorry, this type of criminal cannot be rehabilitated. They're dangerous animals masquerading as humans and there are only two effective ways of controlling them. One is prison for life, which I support. The other is death. I don't support a death penalty, but if he's caught raping a child and the person who catches him ends up killing him, I can't complain.