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Since everyone's forming political parties, I'm going to form one too, but only with the stipulation that I'm the only one who's allowed to be in it. The presence of anyone else will only serve to compromise my ideas, which will not be tolerated!

EDIT: now that I suppose I'm supposed to have more than one member for some reason, I'll go ahead and name my brother as member, even though he hardly posts here and will only serve as a token presence to establish my legitimacy here unless I happen to actually win more than two seats.

If I do win more than two, I'll build a minibar over the empty seats. No, you can't use it.

So, you say you want honesty in politics? Observe: My ideal State is one with me in complete and absolute power, any other form of government is second rate, and thus, is unacceptable. My regime will be based primarily on Reason and Reality, as opposed to ethereal promises for a better life for all and universal happiness and hand-holding and all that happy horse shit.

I'll start out with the parts that most people probably won't like, to weed out the folks who aren't actually interested in reading things through.

My government shall operate as follows:

--It shall retain a near-absolute monopoly on the use of violence, save in individual situations where the victim has no choice but to respond with violence.

--It shall, likewise, never initiate the use of force and will allow all citizens the right to peacably assemble and protest, provided they cause no property/personal damage in doing so.

--Taxes will not be levied. The Police will sustain themselves on the money they recover from the black market, along with voluntary donations and speeding tickets and the like. Cities and towns may choose to levy a nominal tax to pay for infrastructure; fire departments, roads and the like. The Police system and Courts will be the only existing domestic Federal entity in regards to infrastructure.

--Trade will remain free and unmolested by the state, with any exceptions being strictly transient and minor.

--Foreign relations will be limited to our best interests; no bending over backwards to save a trade partner from an unfortunate circumstance. If third party aggression threatens our trade interests, however, an exception can and may be made.

--Foreign aid will be done away with entirely. We need that money for ourselves; it's not our job to police the world.

--All overseas military bases are to be shut down and troops are to return home to assume a more defensive strategic position. US meddling needs to end, the world must be allowed the same liberties as us, ie, they must be allowed to make decisions and decide their fate for themselves.

--The repeal of all drug laws is to commence at once. All citizens have the right to control the contents of their mind and bodies.

--Government shall be restricted to Courts, Military, and Police. Anything else can and should be handled by society itself. Basic guidelines will be enacted to define 'Free Trade' and the concept will be enforced as such.

Typical Melkor, invent a good party and prevent anyone else from joining it. :p You'll go nowhere in global politics, nowhere I tell ya!

Hmm

How would you deal with corporations in situations such as:

1) The Ford Pinto
2) Coal Mine Safety
3) Haz Chems in the work place
4) Worker safety in general
5) Drug testing and results(for example Vioxx, efedra(sp)

It's a conspiracy, all hail Myrth.

Hmm

How would you deal with corporations in situations such as:

1) The Ford Pinto
2) Coal Mine Safety
3) Haz Chems in the work place
4) Worker safety in general
5) Drug testing and results(for example Vioxx, efedra(sp)

1. Make them recall the product, have them provde refunds for units sold and medical costs caused by injuries therein. Units remaining on the market or on the street after the recall are not the responsibility of General Motors.
2. That's one of those stiautions where the 'Right to stay alive' applies pretty directly. While the government would not involve itself in the actual trading or production process of such an industry, basic safety guidelines would have to exist. It would be the responsibility of the workers to be informed of these guidelines and to report breaches in them.
3. See above. All employers must keep MSDS on file and inform their employees of their locations. As above, it is the responsibility of the worker to be informed of these guidelines and to report breaches in them.
4. Pretty much the same as the last two.
5. you'll have to be more specific.

It's a conspiracy, all hail Myrth.

Dude, give me Melkorian dictatorship over Myrthian socialist totalitarianism, anyday!

Well, bear in mind that my refusal to associate with a collective doesn't mean you can't help me into power. I can tolerate people agreeing with me, but I won't stand for other people co-opting my ideas. Political parties promote mediocrity, which is why this platform is MINE! and not yours dammit!

Dude, give me Melkorian dictatorship over Myrthian socialist totalitarianism, anyday!
I would prefer Melkor too, but I'm just biased. I fear Myrth. :(

:upyours:
^the "Up yours!" party smiley. See, it comes from this code:
:upyours:

Well, bear in mind that my refusal to associate with a collective doesn't mean you can't help me into power. I can tolerate people agreeing with me, but I won't stand for other people co-opting my ideas. Political parties promote mediocraty, which is why this platform is MINE! and not yours dammit!

lolz and rollz, you're such a spoilsport. :D

Yeah, that is a good logo. I like it. :upyours:

1. Make them recall the product, have them provde refunds for units sold and medical costs caused by injuries therein. Units remaining on the market or on the street after the recall are not the responsibility of General Motors.
2. That's one of those stiautions where the 'Right to stay alive' applies pretty directly. While the government would not involve itself in the actual trading or production process of such an industry, basic safety guidelines would have to exist. It would be the responsibility of the workers to be informed of these guidelines and to report breaches in them.
3. See above. All employers must keep MSDS on file and inform their employees of their locations. As above, it is the responsibility of the worker to be informed of these guidelines and to report breaches in them.
4. Pretty much the same as the last two.
5. you'll have to be more specific.

Ok I like you so far! ;)

5) Basically hiding research that shows harmful side affects. They are looking at vioxx as it might damage your heart.

Ok I like you so far! ;)

5) Basically hiding research that shows harmful side affects. They are looking at vioxx as it might damage your heart.

If proof can be found that they're hiding research, then I would be in favor of removing them from the market entirely. Make an example of the people who fuck up, then perhaps the rest will learn their lesson. Corporations, in such a society as mine would be obligated not only to produce a product that does what they say it does but also to produce the attendant information. I would not allow GM to release a car without telling me about its basic specs; same thing with medications.

Ten years from now:
"In a recent press event, the head of the Up Yours party has admitted to being totally confused as to why his recent appearance in LA was so poorly received. He then flashed the party's official handsign before leaving the podium."

Ten years from now:
"In a recent press event, the head of the Up Yours party has admitted to being totally confused as to why his recent appearance in LA was so poorly received. He then flashed the party's official handsign before leaving the podium."

LOL

Now, more seriously, the same as I've told the other two parties who've just sprung up on the eve of the election:

If you start a political party, please announce it here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608). Please don't expect me to run around checking if there are new ones all the time. ;)

Now, if you intend to stand in tomorrow's election, you will need to have a full, official manifesto written out today. Any party without one when I go onto my computer tomorrow morning (French time) will not be entitled to stand.

LOL

Now, more seriously, the same as I've told the other two parties who've just sprung up on the eve of the election:

If you start a political party, please announce it here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608). Please don't expect me to run around checking if there are new ones all the time. ;)

Now, if you intend to stand in tomorrow's election, you will need to have a full, official manifesto written out today. Any party without one when I go onto my computer tomorrow morning (French time) will not be entitled to stand.

I'm not interested in your validating [or condemning] my beliefs. I know I won't win any sort of 'election' anyway, but I don't praticularly care about that either. All that matters to me is that my ideals are my own and they need to be honored as such. That's all that should matter ot anyone.

I'm not interested in your validating [or condemning] my beliefs. I know I won't win any sort of 'election' anyway, but I don't praticularly care about that either. All that matters to me is that my ideals are my own and they need to be honored as such. That's all that should matter ot anyone.

No problem. But you said you were willing for people to help you get into power, and that suggested you might want to stand. I won't put your party on the list tomorrow, then.

No problem. But you said you were willing for people to help you get into power, and that suggested you might want to stand. I won't put your party on the list tomorrow, then.

Hey now, I didnt say you couldn't put me on the list!

I want to vote for myself, at least :p

Hey now, I didnt say you couldn't put me on the list!

I want to vote for myself, at least :p

Hehe... Actually, from what I've seen, you may get more than just your own vote. ;)

Plus, if your vote amounts to 4% of the total, that would make you an NS General MP. Though obviously you don't have to accept it...

Anyway, you can stand if you want, of course, but that does mean you need an official manifesto within the next few hours. That's the rule for all the parties.

Hehe... Actually, from what I've seen, you may get more than just your own vote. ;)

Plus, if your vote amounts to 4% of the total, that would make you an NS General MP. Though obviously you don't have to accept it...

Anyway, you can stand if you want, of course, but that does mean you need an official manifesto within the next few hours. That's the rule for all the parties.

Well, if this 'manifesto' has to incorporate anything beyond my basic platform [which I posted earlier], I have to admit it's not a very distinct possibility, as I have to sleep now and I'll be unconscious for the next nine hours or so.

I'll leave it up to you, I don't really care since the outcome of the election won't change my opinions of this forum too much. Chances are, it will destroy any faith I have left in humanity anyway. But then again, that faith is destroyed on a nearly daily basis.

Well, given the "unusual" nature of your party, I'll probably allow your "manifesto" as it is. It is an outlining of policy and principles, after all.

Well, given the "unusual" nature of your party, I'll probably allow your "manifesto" as it is. It is an outlining of policy and principles, after all.

Woohoo!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=426484