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NS Classic Traditionalists

PapalKnight
01-06-2005, 01:26
There seem to be lots of political groups on this board so I'll start my own as none of the ones here fit my tastes. I am going to start the NS Traditionalists. We are devout social conservatives. Our platform is this-

- We are very anti-abortion unless the mother will die. We support a constitutional amendment that will protect unborn life. We consider abortion murder and we consider legalized abortion to be the new holocaust. Abortion is the biggest disgrace this nation has ever had and until it is banned our nation is soaked in blood of the unborn. We also support banning the morning after pill and support the right of pharmacists to deny people contraception.

- We are anti-euthanasia as it is the murder of disabled hospital patients. We believe euthanasia turns our hospitals into butcher shops. As we saw with Terri Schiavo legalized murder is scary and present. We also think US Federal Marshalls should have been sent to reisert the feeding tube.

- We are anti-embryonic stem-cell research as it is useless and possibly immoral. We shouldn't spend money on this as it has saved no one. Rather we should spend money on regular stem cells as those work.

- We are pro-capital punishment in cases of murder, rape, and pedophilia. It can be considered for other cases that are of extreme evil (such as attempting to nuke the country) but unusual. While we ust be extra cautious about using capital punishment if the criminal is proved guilty by DNA/evidence/ect. he/she will be considered for execution. While it should be used rarely it should still be used.

- We are anti-affirmitive action as it is the new segregation. It is racism against whites. Why should a man be denied a job because of his skin color? To deny a man a job because of his skin is immoral.

- We are anti-illegal immigration. Why should our citizens suffer to people who shouldn't even be here. We support denying illegals drivers licenses and we support hiring more INS agents to protect our borders. We also support using more resources to find and expell illegals living here. We support making English the national language.

- We support the 2nd amendment for the most part. If you have a ciminal record you cannot own a gun but if you are a good citizen you can have a gun for your defense.

- We support an assertive foreign policy. In the middle. Extreme war-mongering is bad, as is extreme-isolation. We do however support leaving the UN, as it will one day destroy our country and nationality in the name if globalization. If a natural disaster ever occurs (such as the tsunami) America will be there to help still.

- We support an aggresive crackdown on terrorism. If your government aids terrorists you will be denounced by the US. That includes Saudi Arabia. We will mark terrorist leaders for assassination (use special military agents for the job) and we support invading Afganisthan. Our members can either support or oppose the war In Iraq as I feel it has pros and cons and therefore do not have stance.

- We support economic moderation. Too far right is bad and too far left is too with the economy. We should eliminate the useless taxes like the marriage tax, the death tax, ect. They are an unfair burden to good people. However the government should provide some sort of welfare to help our poor.

- We support a culture of morality. Marriage is to be held sacred. Couples should be encouraged to stay together. *** marriage, *** civil unions, and *** adoptions are to be banned. The government should ban pornography and teach abstinence-only in schools. There should be a war on the "gangsta" culture the populates our cities. Sodomy is to be illegal. We should also make adultery a crime and up the prison time for harlots.

These are our party guidelines. Our 2000 presedential endorsement goes to Pat Buchanan and our 2004 endorsement goes to George W. Bush (though we aren't exactly thrilled with his moderate policies.)
Anarchic Conceptions
01-06-2005, 01:31
We support a constitutional amendment that will protect unborn life.

NS has a constitution.


(Not including the TOS, it would look a bit silly if the above was added to it)
Gataway_Driver
01-06-2005, 01:31
- We support a culture of morality. Marriage is to be held sacred. Couples should be encouraged to stay together. *** marriage, *** civil unions, and *** adoptions are to be banned. The government should ban pornography and teach abstinence-only in schools. There should be a war on the "gangsta" culture the populates our cities. Sodomy is to be illegal. We should also make adultery a crime and up the prison time for harlots.


On who's morality is that based on may I ask?

Certainly not the majority's. Democracy is a pain isn't it
Kervoskia
01-06-2005, 01:32
What are the party's positions on taxes and freedom of speech?
Ashmoria
01-06-2005, 01:34
so sofar its just YOU?
Alien Born
01-06-2005, 01:34
- We support an assertive foreign policy. In the middle. Extreme war-mongering is bad, as is extreme-isolation. We do however support leaving the UN, as it will one day destroy our country and nationality in the name if globalization. If a natural disaster ever occurs (such as the tsunami) America will be there to help still.

How to drive away any and all non Americans. Good Idea.
Gataway_Driver
01-06-2005, 01:34
The true morality, duh.
sorry I'm still ignorant to this, then again I'm a heathen
Kervoskia
01-06-2005, 01:38
Sounds like you took away the ability for someone to choose how to live their life.
Wallum
01-06-2005, 01:52
The only things I disagree with is abortion should be leagal at least in the first 3 months, and welfare. A form of welfare should be given as long as the following are true. The person:
Has never commited a felony
Has some form of job or ABSOLUTELY no way of getting one
Didn't get on the streets by throwing away money with gambling or drugs
Doesn't smoke drink, or do any other type of non-medical drug

Infortunately, it seems most poor people have done one of these.
Gataway_Driver
01-06-2005, 01:54
The only things I disagree with is abortion should be leagal at least in the first 3 months, and welfare. A form of welfare should be given as long as the following are true. The person:
Has never commited a felony
Has some form of job or ABSOLUTELY no way of getting one
Didn't get on the streets by throwing away money with gambling or drugs
Doesn't smoke drink, or do any other type of non-medical drug

Infortunately, it seems most poor people have done one of these.

If it is legal for them to do so then why can't they have welfare?

If they are already disabled to a point where they can't get a job anyway then it doesn't matter. If they can get a job then they *in your opinion* are not entitled to welfare so again it doesn't matter
Crimson Sith
01-06-2005, 01:54
Reads, shudders. Do Americans really think this way?
Gataway_Driver
01-06-2005, 01:57
Reads, shudders. Do Americans really think this way?

the loud minority, yes
Bodies Without Organs
01-06-2005, 02:02
- We are very anti-abortion unless the mother will die. We support a constitutional amendment that will protect unborn life. We consider abortion murder and we consider legalized abortion to be the new holocaust.

And what happens if the pregnant woman threatens to kill herself if she is not allowed to have an abortion?

- We support an aggresive crackdown on terrorism. If your government aids terrorists you will be denounced by the US. That includes Saudi Arabia. We will mark terrorist leaders for assassination (use special military agents for the job) and we support invading Afganisthan. Our members can either support or oppose the war In Iraq as I feel it has pros and cons and therefore do not have stance.

So in the name of fighting terrorism you will promote and fund terrorism?

*** marriage, *** civil unions, and *** adoptions are to be banned.

*** = 'pig'?
Melkor Unchained
01-06-2005, 02:02
You know, the more I read up on these parties the more inclined I am to form the One-Man Objectivist Party. I think I'll do it.
Crimson Sith
01-06-2005, 02:03
You know, the more I read up on these parties the more inclined I am to form the One-Man Objectivist Party. I think I'll do it.

Oh? Sounds cool. Can I join? :D
Raem
01-06-2005, 02:05
You know, the more I read up on these parties the more inclined I am to form the One-Man Objectivist Party. I think I'll do it.

Welcome to the club.

I mean, uh... >_>

Vote Cthulhu! Why settle for the lesser evil?
Melkor Unchained
01-06-2005, 02:07
Oh? Sounds cool. Can I join? :D
Arrrgh!

If I ever gather a following, chances are I'll spend most of my time denouncing it.
Manahad
01-06-2005, 02:11
we consider legalized abortion to be the new holocaust.
and I consider you to be inconsiderate and anti-Semetic.
Alien Born
01-06-2005, 02:12
You know, the more I read up on these parties the more inclined I am to form the One-Man Objectivist Party. I think I'll do it.

Come and join us at the Classic Liberal Party. We are almost objectivist in political policy, just a fraction off ( and the Libertarian party did not get off the ground)
Domici
01-06-2005, 05:24
The only things I disagree with is abortion should be leagal at least in the first 3 months, and welfare. A form of welfare should be given as long as the following are true. The person:
Has never commited a felony
Has some form of job or ABSOLUTELY no way of getting one
Didn't get on the streets by throwing away money with gambling or drugs
Doesn't smoke drink, or do any other type of non-medical drug

Infortunately, it seems most poor people have done one of these.

And if that doesn't work, you can amend the list to eating balonga, spam, or Wonder Bread. Or drinking soda, or any beverage containing alcohol or refined sugar. Pretty much every poor person has taken at least one of those.
Undelia
01-06-2005, 05:41
Hey, I like the sound of this party. Except the gun thing i agree with everthing. ( because of personal reasons I am a bit uneesy when it comes to private gun ownership but I wouldn't ban it). I'll join.
Ariddia
01-06-2005, 08:51
Official message from the organiser of the election

If you actually intend to stand in tomorrow's election, you will need a full, official manifesto written out today. Any party which hasn't got one when I get onto my computer tomorrow morning (French time) will not be entitled to stand.

You can announce here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608) that you've got a manifesto.
Neo Rogolia
01-06-2005, 09:00
Wow...I agree with all the basic tenets of this party...where do I sign up? :D
The Mowers
08-03-2006, 02:48
I encourage you all to join the Nation States Conservative Party which will stand up for many of these beliefs. We have a strong following and took a plurality in the last election!
Europa Maxima
08-03-2006, 02:50
Is this some clone of Patrick Buchanan? :confused:
Anarchic Conceptions
08-03-2006, 02:51
I encourage you all to join the Nation States Conservative Party which will stand up for many of these beliefs. We have a strong following and took a plurality in the last election!
Did you really have to back a year and dig up a thread to say that?
Anarchic Conceptions
08-03-2006, 02:53
Is this some clone of Patrick Buchanan? :confused:

He was a troll from ages back, probably though of himself as an enfant terrrible.
Kreitzmoorland
08-03-2006, 02:53
*neatens the edges of the gravedig with a little trowel*
Kzord
08-03-2006, 02:56
Isn't "classic traditionalists" redundant? Surely there's no avant-garde traditionalist party?
Sdaeriji
08-03-2006, 02:57
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/art/Odyssey/Gravedigger.jpg

Rargh.
Anarchic Conceptions
08-03-2006, 02:59
Isn't "classic traditionalists" redundant? Surely there's no avant-garde traditionalist party?

If you knew his posting history you'd realise he wasn't brightest bulb.
Zatarack
08-03-2006, 03:01
Welcome to the club.

I mean, uh... >_>

Vote Cthulhu! Why settle for the lesser evil?

But he's not evil, just misunderstood!

And I think these traditionalists are making the government too involved.