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Today the new age holocaust known as abortion continues to kill hundreds each day. People who have been born themselves are going to the SS abortion doctors and having their own flesh and blood executed. Since 1973, one in four pregnancies have been terminated (In the US alone), and around 44 million abortions have occurred, utilizing such sadistic procedures as Dilation and Evacuation, during which a crushing instrument is inserted into a mother's uterus and pieces are pulled off of the child and assembled on a table to ensure they all came out. Or the burning of children by saline amniotic infusion that concludes in a hopeless struggle against the severe pain of arsoned lungs and skin. Or Partial Birth Abortion. Or a simple RU-486 pill (abortion pill) that can terminate a pregnancy quickly and efficiently. The abortionists have developed many ways, all cruel and unusual (hence unconstitutional) to kill the baby with.

Some people are more concerned with how we are treating terrorist pigs and murderers/pedophiles then the fact that the US government is taking tax dollars and giving them to the evil organization planned parenthood. We are complaining because a US interrogator supposedly flushed a book down a toilet yet we are nearly silent when it comes to the fact that millions of babies have legally been put on the butchers rack.

With the arrival of secularization and the neglect of tradition, people have put luxury over life. This is simply unacceptable. Mainly the Democrats but also the Republicans have done little about abortion. Bill Clinton, the worst president in US history, actually protected partial birth abortion. So did presidential candidate John Kerry.

It baffles me that liberals value "choice" over life. It frightens me as well. A choice that takes an innocent life is not freedom. It is tyranny, something the founding fathers feared so much. Is it any coincedence life was their #1 concern? The abortionists and their neo-liberal supporters don't think so. If they could care less about a baby, I'm sure many could care less about a full grown human. We saw that in action with Terri Schiavo when she was starved to death by the liberal court systems.

It is a sad reflection on our society that we allow abortion. It will stain our legacy forevor. In a hundred years abortion will hopefully be banned. But 45 million lives will still be gone, and their is nothing we can do. There is blood on our hands.

Today the new age holocaust known as abortion continues to kill hundreds each day. People who have been born themselves are going to the SS abortion doctors and having their own flesh and blood executed. Since 1973, one in four pregnancies have been terminated (In the US alone), and around 44 million abortions have occurred, utilizing such sadistic procedures as Dilation and Evacuation, during which a crushing instrument is inserted into a mother's uterus and pieces are pulled off of the child and assembled on a table to ensure they all came out. Or the burning of children by saline amniotic infusion that concludes in a hopeless struggle against the severe pain of arsoned lungs and skin. Or Partial Birth Abortion. Or a simple RU-486 pill (abortion pill) that can terminate a pregnancy quickly and efficiently. The abortionists have developed many ways, all cruel and unusual (hence unconstitutional) to kill the baby with.

Some people are more concerned with how we are treating terrorist pigs and murderers/pedophiles then the fact that the US government is taking tax dollars and giving them to the evil organization planned parenthood. We are complaining because a US interrogator supposedly flushed a book down a toilet yet we are nearly silent when it comes to the fact that millions of babies have legally been put on the butchers rack.

With the arrival of secularization and the neglect of tradition, people have put luxury over life. This is simply unacceptable. Mainly the Democrats but also the Republicans have done little about abortion. Bill Clinton, the worst president in US history, actually protected partial birth abortion. So did presidential candidate John Kerry.

It baffles me that liberals value "choice" over life. It frightens me as well. A choice that takes an innocent life is not freedom. It is tyranny, something the founding fathers feared so much. Is it any coincedence life was their #1 concern? The abortionists and their neo-liberal supporters don't think so. If they could care less about a baby, I'm sure many could care less about a full grown human. We saw that in action with Terri Schiavo when she was starved to death by the liberal court systems.

It is a sad reflection on our society that we allow abortion. It will stain our legacy forevor. In a hundred years abortion will hopefully be banned. But 45 million lives will still be gone, and their is nothing we can do. There is blood on our hands.
Liberal...court...system...can't...breath....too...funny

*streaks thread*

Is their any country that does not allow abortion? I dont think so, thats because there is nothing wrong with it. If the only thing keeping one alive is a tube, whether it be a man made feeding tube or an umbilical chord than its a matter of personal morality that determines whether the living thing should be cut off and let live by itself.

:) Hey, PKn, go and read my last post on your other thread. I get to sound a lot like a responsible adult.

*streaks thread*
*tackles Potaria*

OMG it's another Jesussaves/Commando#whateverthehellitisnow clone!!!!

HIT THE DECK!

*whips out double AK-47's, fires wildly while screaming like a madman*
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

its... no use... they just... keep coming.... no stopping them.... *goes down fighting*

*tackles Potaria*

*gets up*

*continues to streak thread*

Is their any country that does not allow abortion? I dont think so, thats because there is nothing wrong with it. If the only thing keeping one alive is a tube, whether it be a man made feeding tube or an umbilical chord than its a matter of personal morality that determines whether the living thing should be cut off and let live by itself.
Yeah, there are a few. I know of Mexico for sure, but there may be others. Oh, wait, I found a handy table: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp334al.html

OMG it's another Jesussaves/Commando#whateverthehellitisnow clone!!!!

HIT THE DECK!

*whips out double AK-47's, fires wildly while screaming like a madman*
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

its... no use... they just... keep coming.... no stopping them.... *goes down fighting*
*laughs uncontrollably*
:p :p :p

Anyway... in response to the thread, liberal.. court.. systems...

*laughs uncontrollably again*

Why is it wrong to put luxury over unborn life?

The embryo doesn't know what's happening to it. It doesn't care.
The ones who care are male conservatives (and a few female ones, I guess) that for some reason believe that it is they who should decide who gets born, rather than the mother.
The same conservatives that always moan about how single mothers ("can't they get a man for god's sake!") cost the state so much in support payments.
But when they engage in that most effective of cost cutting measures, which by the way often prevents a human from having to go through life either unloved or disenfranchised (?spelling?) or both, then that's "immoral".

My morality is different from yours, buddy. I think your point of view is immoral, you think mine is. None of us is wrong. There are no absolutes in the universe, not even if you call yourself a papal knight. Papal Knights weren't right all the time either...

Screams "ALLAH AKHBAR!!!"

and blows up thread.

Hehe, idiots are funny.

Is their any country that does not allow abortion? I dont think so, thats because there is nothing wrong with it. If the only thing keeping one alive is a tube, whether it be a man made feeding tube or an umbilical chord than its a matter of personal morality that determines whether the living thing should be cut off and let live by itself.

There might be a few modernized nations that don't...I want to say Ireland doesn't, but I don't know if they count as "modernized" either.

hmmm commando is back, great...

Is their any country that does not allow abortion? I dont think so, thats because there is nothing wrong with it. If the only thing keeping one alive is a tube, whether it be a man made feeding tube or an umbilical chord than its a matter of personal morality that determines whether the living thing should be cut off and let live by itself.

Vatican City... the Philippines... stricter Catholic countries - at least the leadership of the church will speak against it. Abortion, particularly for no other cause than because some dumb guy got a girl pregnant because he couldn't keep his weiner in his pants, or some girl didn't think it could happen to her and oh my gosh what a disgrace this is so let's get rid of it, forget it so we can have more sex - that is a terrible sin. We have the arrogance to say those things about other human beings forgetting that we ourselves are being given chances at life that, with an aforementioned attitude, we probably don't deserve.

I like the idea preposed by my chem teach

Give the baby a gun! if it whants to or cant tell its being aborted not a problem
If it dousnt then it will defend its self!!



(if you cant see the sarcasm I pity you)

Hey Commando, is this you again?

I like the idea preposed by my chem teach

Give the baby a gun! if it whants to or cant tell its being aborted not a problem
If it dousnt then it will defend its self!!



(if you cant see the sarcasm I pity you)

We can do that with everyone. Let's go around give everyone a gun, whoever survives at the end deserves to live. Whoever doesn't; well, they obviously don't want to live.

did you read the rest of the post?

Commando! I missed you. :)

glad to see some things never change

Well can you edit the top of your post to read warning Repblican Rant.
Really i dont see why you should give a damn what a mother does if the baby is going to be born mentally and possibly pychicaly disabled should the family suffer having to pay more money to keep a baby alive that would have died 20 or hell even 10 years ago. And on the Schivo topic would any of you like to be in a vegitated state for what was it 15 years, not moving, or speaking. When you call it a liberal court you should call it a brave court for facing the idioits or the world like you.

There might be a few modernized nations that don't...I want to say Ireland doesn't, but I don't know if they count as "modernized" either.

Ahem, yes, Ireland is a modernised country.
One of the most modernised and reformed nations in the EU, which is also the Mekka of software development in these parts.
As to what they think of killing poor innocent screaming bits of tissue, I would't know. I can't imagine them being that conservative though.

Where is Drunk Commies when you need him...

Give the baby a gun! if it whants to or cant tell its being aborted not a problem
If it dousnt then it will defend its self!!

Hmmm... wouldn't putting a gun into the uterus through the vagina cause an abortion?

Hmmm... wouldn't putting a gun into the uterus through the vagina cause an abortion?


handle first, saftey first!

Papal, posting this on a forum, especially this one, wont do anything. If you want to make a real difference, go shoot up some abortion clinic doctors.

Abortion is up to the PARENT. Not some foolish conservative, or some retarded Liberal. Like it or not, its up to the parent to decided the kids life, thats why I say abortion is just fine as it is. Thats freedom, the right to do what you want withought having retards chasing after you bitching about moral rights

Do fetuses know that they are alive?

Is it truely immoral to kill something that can't (yet) understand that it exists?

Ahem, yes, Ireland is a modernised country.
One of the most modernised and reformed nations in the EU, which is also the Mekka of software development in these parts.
As to what they think of killing poor innocent screaming bits of tissue, I would't know. I can't imagine them being that conservative though.

Abortion is prohibited in Ireland - although there is a technicality whereby it would be legal if the life of the mother was at risk. In practice most Irish women wanting abortions travel to the UK (but not Northern Ireland) in order to undergo the procedure.

Ahem, yes, Ireland is a modernised country.
One of the most modernised and reformed nations in the EU, which is also the Mekka of software development in these parts.
As to what they think of killing poor innocent screaming bits of tissue, I would't know. I can't imagine them being that conservative though.

I honestly doubt fetuses scream.

If the only thing keeping one alive is a tube, whether it be a man made feeding tube or an umbilical chord than its a matter of personal morality that determines whether the living thing should be cut off and let live by itself.

So you also wouldn't have a problem with the parents of a 3 month old baby deciding they don't want to feed it anymore?

If the only thing keeping one alive is a tube, whether it be a man made feeding tube or an umbilical chord than its a matter of personal morality that determines whether the living thing should be cut off and let live by itself.
So you also wouldn't have a problem with the parents of a 3 month old baby deciding they don't want to feed it anymore?

Nevermind that: what about SCUBA divers?

I do not get involved in these type of debates because they go noplace and wind up turning into useless insulting jabs.

I commend you for putting forth a well written and well "felt" out post. It is good to see someone committed to something and you put forth a good point of view.

I have to note that I am for a womans choice. No one, man or otherwise, can make a decision for a woman in a situation such as this. Only the woman can decide for herself, and it is one she will have to live with.

I personaly feel abortion is horrid and moraly corrupt. But I will never take away the womans RIGHT to decide that for herself.

I have three childern of my own. I have held them and felt the warmth that they bring me and have been fortunate enough to see them grow into basicaly good young adults.

I find it sad to see so many that are moraly bankrupt on these forms. Those who would easily define a child as a thing, or a parasite. For a person to have lost so much feeling towards there fellow man is sad. I wonder if these are the same people who are anti-war and protesting the war and killing of "innnocents" in Iraq.

Abortion is a deep issue, a personal issue. One that is life changing and never forgotten that effects both mother and unborn child. I know, my wife had one years ago, she was very young and at the time was the best choice for her at the time. But I assure you that that choice still haunts her today, the knowledge of what she distroyed eats at her at each and everyone one of her other kids birthdays. That thought of what could have been.

Peoples passions will always run igh on this but the bottom line is that it is a personal, private choice for each woman to make on their own, and to deal with the results for years to come.

I have to note that I am for a womans choice. No one, man or otherwise, can make a decision for a woman in a situation such as this. Only the woman can decide for herself, and it is one she will have to live with.

What about in instances where the woman is extremely mentally handicapped?

Like I said. This is a touchy situation. I realy do not know what to do. I have never been pregnant, if I was I would be rich.