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Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?

Who are these 'some liberals'? I sure don't want it censored.

Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?

Who wanted The Passion censored? Got a link or somethin'?

Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?
Do you have an example of who these "liberals" are or are you just talking out of your hat?

Who are these 'some liberals'? I sure don't want it censored.

Me neither. Oh, sure, I wouldn't take my kids to see it, but I generally don't take pre-school children to snuff films.

However, not taking my kids to see it isn't censorship ... it's parenting. I didn't take them to see Saw either.

ultra-violent games like GTA

Off-Topic:

"Ultra-violent"? All the killing is animated blood (unlike a few "Teen" games), and killing isn't encouraged. The police shoot the heck out of ya' if you kill someone.

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.

Do you have an example of who these "liberals" are or are you just talking out of your hat?

You know, those liberals. the ones over there near the tree. They are the ones who wanted it censored.

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.
Erm, the ACLU wanted to shut the movie down?
You're going to have to give us a link on that one.

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.


so I take it you whont stuff like American pie censored


(PS I hate all forms of cenesership no matter what)

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.
The ACLU? Mind showing where the ACLU (That's the american CIVIL LIBERTIES union) asked for censorship of the passion?

Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?
I don't want "Passion of the Christ" to be censored. I just don't understand what the point of the movie was supposed to be, anyway. I've never seen it, but my understanding is that it's somethin' like 2-3 hours of seeing Jesus get beat up. Yet, it seems to be popular with Christians all over the nation. How sadistic.

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.

I think you're confusing "Don't show it in school" with "Don't show it in America".

I don't want the damn thing shown in school either. Neither should you.

The ACLU? Mind showing where the ACLU (That's the american CIVIL LIBERTIES union) asked for censorship of the passion?

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association wants anything Christian censored. I shouldn't have to provide a link. They want the 10 commandments banned, they closed a concert in Illinois down thats money was going toward the poor just because it was Christian, ect. They are a flithy hate group.

I don't want "Passion of the Christ" to be sensored. I just don't understand what the point of the movie was supposed to be, anyway. I've never seen it, but my understanding is that it's somethin' like 2-3 hours of seeing Jesus get beat up. Yet, it seems to be popular with Christians all over the nation. How sadistic.

I have to agree with you there. I am a Christian and I have no interest whatsoever in watching that kind of sadism and violence. I am well aware of the things Christ suffered, I don't want to watch 2-3 hours of it. It is somekind of morbid fascination that I want no part of.

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association wants anything Christian censored. I shouldn't have to provide a link. They want the 10 commandments banned, they closed a concert in Illinois down thats money was going toward the poor just because it was Christian, ect. They are a flithy hate group.
A link please. Hurry up with it.

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association wants anything Christian censored. I shouldn't have to provide a link. They want the 10 commandments banned, they closed a concert in Illinois down thats money was going toward the poor just because it was Christian, ect. They are a flithy hate group.

No comment.

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association wants anything Christian censored. I shouldn't have to provide a link. They want the 10 commandments banned, they closed a concert in Illinois down thats money was going toward the poor just because it was Christian, ect. They are a flithy hate group.

Never feed the link demanders! Ignore their cries for "evidence" and "proof"! If you do bother to provide a link they will simply declare it is not valid or it is biased. Down with linking! If you offer no proof I will ask no question. . . ;)

Aha, so you're just an ideologue troll then.
*sigh*
I shouldn't have expected any better...

Cool. Label whomever disagrees with you a troll. thats what happens here. all the conservatives are labeled trolls.

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.
I don't remember Michael Moore or the ACLU saying anything about it. It was actually some of the more conservative Jewish groups that were concerned that the movie would incite feelings of hatred against Jews, although even they had to recognize in the end that, not having seen the film, they weren't sure.

No one has wanted to censor it because it's Christian, but it's terribly violent and graphical. They just gave it a proper rating. Like American Pie.

Cool. Label whomever disagrees with you a troll. thats what happens here. all the conservatives are labeled trolls.
Hmm? I don't call all consevatives trolls.
I call people who resort to calling any group they don't like a "filthy hate group" and other such nonsense, and don't provide any evidence, trolls.

Cool. Label whomever disagrees with you a troll. thats what happens here. all the conservatives are labeled trolls.

Hahahahahaha. Troll.

You know, those liberals. the ones over there near the tree. They are the ones who wanted it censored.

Oh ... those guys. Damn I hate those guys.

Cool. Label whomever disagrees with you a troll. thats what happens here. all the conservatives are labeled trolls.

But I am a conservative, no one has ever labelled me a troll. How come I get left out of the party? :(

Cool. Label whomever disagrees with you a troll. thats what happens here. all the conservatives are labeled trolls.
A link please.

Who are these 'some liberals'?

I, too, wonder who these "liberals" are who want The Passion of the Christ censored. IIRC, Hillary Clinton - one of the most high profile liberals of our time - started a campaign to have GTA: SA banned when it hit the shelves in NY. She's against violent video games getting into the hands of minors... so, apparently, the idea that liberals don't want to censor things such as this is a fallacy.

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association wants anything Christian censored. I shouldn't have to provide a link.


yes you do, the burdern of proof is on YOU

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association

That would be the ACLA, not the ACLU.

Oh, and the 10 Commandments aren't Christian ... they're Jewish. Thanks for playing, though.

I, too, wonder who these "liberals" are who want The Passion of the Christ censored. IIRC, Hillary Clinton - one of the most high profile liberals of our time - started a campaign to have GTA: SA banned when it hit the shelves in NY. She's against violent video games getting into the hands of minors... so, apparently, the idea that liberals don't want to censor things such as this is a fallacy.
The Clinton's are centrists, not liberals.

(Shock! Awe!)

Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?
The liberals in question were family values oriented Christians who objected to the fetishism of violence in the original version. Because they wanted to see it, and had good money that the producers wanted, a version of the film with a lot of the worst violence cut out was produced. It's not censorship, it's capitalism. Censorship will be the FCC keeping the unedited version off of network TV.

IIRC, Hillary Clinton - one of the most high profile liberals of our time - started a campaign to have GTA: SA banned when it hit the shelves in NY.

Not to mention Al and Tipper Gore getting those little labels put on albums warning of explicit lyrics. Frankly, I don't know what this guy is on about. Itching for a fight, no doubt. Should prove a fun thread if it doesn't get locked.

The Clinton's are centrists, not liberals.

(Shock! Awe!)

Centrists? They are semi-centrists, the diet Coke of centrists. *stroke Mr. Bigglesworth*

Centrists? They are semi-centrists, the diet Coke of centrists. *stroke Mr. Bigglesworth*
Mmm, diet coke.

But I am a conservative, no one has ever labelled me a troll. How come I get left out of the party? :(

Stop trolling for trollship. :D

Stop trolling for trollship. :D

What!? Me troll!? I crush your bones and make my bread!
damn, that's a giant, maybe they won't notice. . .

hmm I wonder if he will ever come back with proof?

hmm I wonder if he will ever come back with proof?
Don't hold your breath or you'll be needing a doctor.

hmm I wonder if he will ever come back with proof?

No. Oh wait ... yes he will ... it will come from everythingliberalsdosucks.com

:D

No. Oh wait ... yes he will ... it will come from everythingliberalsdosucks.com

:D
"Newsmax.com"

No. Oh wait ... yes he will ... it will come from everythingliberalsdosucks.com

:D

ah a Reputible site :D

Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?

Hey PKn, look, I see from your post count you are new (or an older poster who is trying their hand at trolling). If you are the latter then, buzz off. However, if you really are new then I offer a piece of advice.
If you feel attacked and abused don't let it drive you off. You posted a thread with some really outrageous claims and no evidence whatsoever to back it up. When you do that other posters will swarm and string ya like hell. Try posting on some other threads first or beginning with some less contraversial threads. Once you get your feet wet, get to know the personalities of other posters and the culture of these boards things will go better for ya.

The Clinton's are centrists, not liberals.

(Shock! Awe!)

It depends on who you talk to... a friend of mine is an intern for Hillary in NY and her agenda is, at times, hardly centrist.

I have to agree with you there. I am a Christian and I have no interest whatsoever in watching that kind of sadism and violence. I am well aware of the things Christ suffered, I don't want to watch 2-3 hours of it. It is somekind of morbid fascination that I want no part of.

Isn't the passion play (movie was based on it) something that adolf saw and helped him in his antisemitism?

Isn't the passion play (movie was based on it) something that adolf saw and helped him in his antisemitism?

And people say I make stupid statements?

And people say I make stupid statements?

No I heard something like it somewhere.

Isn't the passion play (movie was based on it) something that adolf saw and helped him in his antisemitism?

Hmm, I have never heard that, so I don't know.
As a Christian I have never had anything agaisnt Jewish people and do not think of them as Christ killers. None of my Christian friends feel they are either. My Christian friends are strong backers of Isreal and of Jewish people in general.

Hmm, I have never heard that, so I don't know.
As a Christian I have never had anything agaisnt Jewish people and do not think of them as Christ killers. None of my Christian friends feel they are either. My Christian friends are strong backers of Isreal and of Jewish people in general.

Me too, but my friends are mostly atheists.

Anyway if it is true, it isn't suprising since the main reason why he hated the Jews was because he wasn't accepted into an art school and he thought it was because the owners were jewish.

Now back on topic, I am a strong supporter of censorship, and only bartering, no inheritance and welfare. So what if liberals want censorship, they are not libertarians, whom would be hypocritical if they wanted The Passion censored.

PapalKnight is making Republicans such as me look bad. Come to think of it that is not a hard thing to do we have not made some of the wisest choices but nither of the Democrates but that is off subjest. Genrally it is us conservatives who want things censored. I personlly hate censorship it should bne the parents who decide what a kid can or can not see.

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.

Michael Moore:As for Moore, he:
said he saw Gibson's film twice, and even took his father to see it.

"I thought it was a powerful piece of filmmaking," Moore told AP Radio Sunday. "I'm a practicing Catholic, and you know I think Mel and I may be from different wings of the Catholic Church. My film might have been called 'The Compassion of the Christ.'"

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association wants anything Christian censored. I shouldn't have to provide a link. They want the 10 commandments banned, they closed a concert in Illinois down thats money was going toward the poor just because it was Christian, ect. They are a flithy hate group.

Commando?

Commando?
He's DOS, isn't he?

He's DOS, isn't he?

Hmmm thats is not a really good IMO (I wish there was a way to IP ban some one so it blocks them from seeing the site [like the server whont send the page out to them or something])

Hmmm thats is not a really good IMO (I wish there was a way to IP ban some one so it blocks them from seeing the site [like the server whont send the page out to them or something])
Err...DOS as I used it=Delete on sight, not denial of service.

Err...DOS as I used it=Delete on sight, not denial of service.

I know, but I think its not very good at keaping away trouble makers

I know, but I think its not very good at keaping away trouble makers
For all the hassle we give our mods, they do a good job of keeping everyone in line.

For all the hassle we give our mods, they do a good job of keeping everyone in line.

ya I know, its just an Idea im kicking about.

This is utterly ridiculous, i despise the way the far right is constantly claiming to be attacked by the ACLU, they came into creation to protect us. To make sure we remained a free society. You sir, are complaining (without evidence of course) that an orginization that exists for your protection wanted to censor what some believe to be an anti-semetic expression of christian fundamentallism.
While at the same time you domionists are infiltrating every branch of society spreading your message of hate, against muslims, jews, homosexuals, and the left. I'm tired of hearing this christian drivel. The ACLU is pro secular, not anti Christian, believe it or not, there is a difference, if you'll for two seconds look through the rigid dogmatic curtain you fundamentalists have drawn around yourselves.

For all the hassle we give our mods, they do a good job of keeping everyone in line.

That's because The Passion wasn't about Jesus, it was what the mods did to an NS General troll.

"Think about it a moment."

*shifty*

I, too, wonder who these "liberals" are who want The Passion of the Christ censored. IIRC, Hillary Clinton - one of the most high profile liberals of our time - started a campaign to have GTA: SA banned when it hit the shelves in NY. She's against violent video games getting into the hands of minors... so, apparently, the idea that liberals don't want to censor things such as this is a fallacy.

Another reason why I would vote for anyone, including GwB(even though he couldnt run), over hillary.

I am strongly considering giving up my US citizenship and joining the French Foreign Legion. *sigh*

I am strongly considering giving up my US citizenship and joining the French Foreign Legion. *sigh*

Aye. If only I were strong/fit enough to do so...

Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?
Both the left *and* right have been hypocritical on issues of censorship (which is why you can't classify my politics as either).

This is utterly ridiculous, i despise the way the far right is constantly claiming to be attacked by the ACLU, they came into creation to protect us. To make sure we remained a free society. You sir, are complaining (without evidence of course) that an orginization that exists for your protection wanted to censor what some believe to be an anti-semetic expression of christian fundamentallism.
While at the same time you domionists are infiltrating every branch of society spreading your message of hate, against muslims, jews, homosexuals, and the left. I'm tired of hearing this christian drivel. The ACLU is pro secular, not anti Christian, believe it or not, there is a difference, if you'll for two seconds look through the rigid dogmatic curtain you fundamentalists have drawn around yourselves.

I resent the fact that you connect the far right with this issue. Your right some christains complain about the aclu but that doesnt make everyone on the far right a christian. Im an athiest thanks and im strongly agianst censorship because i think the issue is not the content of the movie its the complete lack of responsibility in some parents letting there kids see movies that were made for adults but thats besides the piont. Also id like to say to the maker of the thread you give the right wing a bad name by completely filling out the stereo type that the left wings has created about us. Atleast give us some facts about this before you go on an anti liberal rant..... the world is full of dumb people :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

I am strongly considering giving up my US citizenship and joining the French Foreign Legion. *sigh*

You don't have to give up US citizenship, in fact you would be wise to keep it as you would soon find you landed in your worst nightmare. If by chance you are serious then I would advise, be silent.

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.
They don't want it censored. You're just being biased.

PSOV, according to the political compass, I'm far-right...so don't place it on me.

Why do some liberals want movies like The Passion pf the Christ censored yet they want sexually immoral things like pornography and ultra-violent games like GTA to run rampart and free?
You're forgetting about the most basic and insidious form of liberal censorship: Political Correctness.

You're forgetting about the most basic and insidious form of liberal censorship: Political Correctness.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! It burns!

You're forgetting about the most basic and insidious form of liberal censorship: Political Correctness.
Call a ****** a ****** for all I care. That's not censorship, you can say it all you want to. That doesn't mean you won't have to deal with people who think that you're an ignorant bigot.

Call a ****** a ****** for all I care. That's not censorship, you can say it all you want to. That doesn't mean you won't have to deal with people who think that you're an ignorant bigot.
****** is a word, it's harmless. The history behind it is the offencive part.

****** is a word, it's harmless. The history behind it is the offencive part.
But saying that ****** is a bad word is political correctness! Can't have that.

I agree. Passion of the Christ shouldn't be censored at all. Some of the best religious movies were extremely violent. Look at The End of Evangelion.

PSOV, according to the political compass, I'm far-right...so don't place it on me.

I apologize, i was ranting, but i was reffering to the Christian far right

oops Christian FUNDAMENTALIST far right

But saying that ****** is a bad word is political correctness! Can't have that.
Political correctness is the new Pepsi.

PSOV, accepted. :) Though, to classify things as left or right is a razor thin line.

So, it's come to this...

*streaks thread*

So, it's come to this...

*streaks thread*

*chases after him with plenty of tools of censorship*

*chases after him with plenty of tools of censorship*

*looks behind*

HAH! You forget that my legs are strong from riding my bike on the highest gear setting!

...Wait, I never told you tha---

*hits a wall*

*dies*

I don't want "Passion of the Christ" to be sensored. I just don't understand what the point of the movie was supposed to be, anyway. I've never seen it, but my understanding is that it's somethin' like 2-3 hours of seeing Jesus get beat up. Yet, it seems to be popular with Christians all over the nation. How sadistic.

Well, that's the fundamentals of all the ancient Christian practices. Beat the crap out of Christ, then eat his flesh and drink his blood. As PapalKnight said, a beautiful movie. I myself am planning a trip for my church group to go see a midnight screening of all the Night of the Living Dead movies.

I agree. Passion of the Christ shouldn't be censored at all. Some of the best religious movies were extremely violent. Look at The End of Evangelion.

...Yeah...

VIA LA OTAKU!

I resent the fact that you connect the far right with this issue. Your right some christains complain about the aclu but that doesnt make everyone on the far right a christian. Im an athiest thanks and im strongly agianst censorship because i think the issue is not the content of the movie its the complete lack of responsibility in some parents letting there kids see movies that were made for adults but thats besides the piont. Also id like to say to the maker of the thread you give the right wing a bad name by completely filling out the stereo type that the left wings has created about us. Atleast give us some facts about this before you go on an anti liberal rant..... the world is full of dumb people :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

He complained about the far right being against the ACLU, not against secularism. Bill O'Reilly is a relativly secular figure and he says that the ACLU is the biggest threat to American freedom today. The far right is opposed to the ACLU because the far right is opposed to civil rights.

The far right is opposed to the ACLU because the far right is opposed to civil rights.

Which is why I LOATHE the far right.

*points to sig*

we could start a club :)

oh, but, um, right......

...Yeah...

VIA LA OTAKU!

Yeah! The One True Path is Eva!

Michael Moore, the ACLU, and some liberal Jewish groups were whining about the Passion from the moment it went to theatre. I was disgusted that they would want a beuatiful religious film censored because it is Christian yet they watch terrible and offensive movies like American Pie.
Ya know what would have made everyone happy? If Judas was holding a pie for Jesus to penetrate in the kitchen while Pilate was getting head by Mary Magdalene under the table, while Barabus was their waiter (American Pie 3) ... i imagine someone could swing a good parable about band camp here too. Any takers?

He complained about the far right being against the ACLU, not against secularism. Bill O'Reilly is a relativly secular figure and he says that the ACLU is the biggest threat to American freedom today. The far right is opposed to the ACLU because the far right is opposed to civil rights.
You rock, Dom.
Did you hear that ACLU took on Limbaugh's case? Classic.

The Anti-Christian-Lawyers-Association wants anything Christian censored. I shouldn't have to provide a link.
Yes, well everyone here is impressed with your wherewithal and intellectual stamina in regard to this subject, so of course we can assume you're educated and wise in whatever you decide to post, regardless of mitigating news postings, links, facts, and other drab blather. Thanks.
:rolleyes:

No comment.
...isn't your "No comment." a comment in itself?
:confused:

But I am a conservative, no one has ever labelled me a troll. How come I get left out of the party? :(
Could be you're one of the few sensible ones. With a better-than-average complexion. ;)

I, too, wonder who these "liberals" are who want The Passion of the Christ censored. IIRC, Hillary Clinton - one of the most high profile liberals of our time - started a campaign to have GTA: SA banned when it hit the shelves in NY. She's against violent video games getting into the hands of minors... so, apparently, the idea that liberals don't want to censor things such as this is a fallacy.
She might've gotten to the part where you have to nab a huge pile of money that has a giant purple double-headed dildo on top - you know, the one that you can also find in the San Andreas jail cell with that balding dude with his shirt open .... you know, it's a powerful melee weapon, like the bouquet of flowers!
I might be assuming too much. *shrug*
I don't want to ban it but i sure as f*ck wouldn't want a still-impressionable child getting the wrong idea from some of the hijinx in that game ... although the whole series made me laugh for various morbid reasons.
"Want some coffee?" *wink*
;)

Another reason why I would vote for anyone, including GwB(even though he couldnt run), over hillary.
How about Michael Moore over Hillary then? (I mean for your vote, not her actually being run over by him)

Call a ****** a ****** for all I care. That's not censorship, you can say it all you want to. That doesn't mean you won't have to deal with people who think that you're an ignorant bigot.
I have no intentions of calling anyone any such thing. Don't project your prejudices onto me.

Why is porn legal? Jeez we're on the internet. The information superhighway. Yes there are pop-up blockers and anti-spam programs and whatnot. But before you know it, some whacko's gonna say all that is against freedom of speech and if nothing's done about it. Everyone's going to have to read all their junk e-mail and all those stupid pop-up ads.

Oh yah; then you'll get fined for throwing junk mail in the garbage and not listening to telemarketers. Heck, they'll install recording in your car devices you'll have to send to the town hall periodically that show you've been reading OUT LOUD everything on those mindless billboards.

Now that that's cleared up, what happens when some jerk decides to pull some indecent act of flashing a pair of tits in front of you or showing 2 h***y-b******s doing it? I can't stand those stupid shirts that people wear right now. What ahout the future of Comm/ Info Tech?

How about Michael Moore over Hillary then? (I mean for your vote, not her actually being run over by him)
How about a head-on collision that takes them both out? I'd vote for that!

:p :D

How about a head-on collision that takes them both out? I'd vote for that!

:p :D
I imagine an awful lot of people would vote for that.

The majority of the leftover meat would be from Moore, in all likelihood. Then refashioned into burgers and fed to third-world countries ....
(See The Yes Men .... *homework*)
;)

The majority of the leftover meat would be from Moore, in all likelihood. Then refashioned into burgers and fed to third-world countries ....
I hereby charge you with conspiracy to commit genocide against third-world peoples by feeding them burgers made of 100% fat. GENOCIDE BY HEART ATTACK!

:p

I hereby charge you with conspiracy to commit genocide against third-world peoples by feeding them burgers made of 100% fat. GENOCIDE BY HEART ATTACK!

:p
Conspiracy? Because i said it might happen? Wouldn't that turn this thread to .... CONSERVATIVE CENSORSHIP!!>!>!>? :eek:

Don't forget the gristle.

PotC is worse than USpie.
Violence is worse than sex
I would rather have a kid watch the latter than the former, becuase:
I would rather teens have sex than kill each other.

Don't you?