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When you get into a fight, do you guys also find a way to get out of it?

I don't mean that crappy talk-it-out junk. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard in my life.

I mean literally stealing away the attacker's dignity in front of a large amount of people.

For instance, this works nice and it's very easy, I like to dodge a hit, get the guy's arm from behind, and pull it from the back to the point where the guy is down and begging for me to stop.

Then I demand an apology. :) Then I demand that he look at everyone else and say that's what he did was a very stupid thing to do.

It really makes them kick themselves at night when they try to sleep with that terrible memory.

But I hardley ever get into fights. It's not cool. Nope. But when I do...

Yes. Run!

I do the ancient chinese killer blow.

Monkey in tree, grabbing orange.

I pull my pants down. Nobody wants to fight a guy with his stuff hanging out like that. Or, I stab my centimeter long fingernails into their forehead or a major artery.

Naw. Traditional hand-to-hand combat is the way to go. I fight with the style of the Ancient Monkey Tree Lizard Of The Flaming Wind Of Cheese!...or something like that.

:rolleyes: No, just punch him in the head. And push him over if he tries any of that highkick shit. It only works in movies anyway, the guy is so off balance its rediculous...

I just dodge them until proper authority arrives. I didn't do anything to hurt them, so they get all the trouble and I get away without a scratch. Keep in mind this only works if the people around you who fight are incompetent poleasses.

I thought this was a thread about fighting alternatives! I hate those damn alternatives, they make me so mad... :mad:

I like to break fingers...makes em stop messing with you real quick. :D

But I hardley ever get into fights. It's not cool. Nope. But when I do...
Why you ever get into fights?

Krav Maga is the way to go. Quickest way to stop a fight is to instantly take your attacker down. If there's more than one, watching their "big mouth/big man" get taken out in miliseconds usually gives them enough time to pause and have the words "oh SHIT" flash over and over in their minds. They usually pick up their leader and leave. :D

Breaking their nose works well. They go "oh ny Gawb Nu bnoke my node!" hold their hands to their face to staunch the blood. Only problem is you can break a finger doing it, especially if the other guy is Greek or Turkish. Splashing cold water on their face is also a good tactic. It works very well on kids having a temper tantrum, and a drunk jock roaring for a fight is almost the same thing as kid having a temper tantrum.

Another trick is to jab your fingers up their nostrils really hard and just keep applying upward pressure. Kinda gross and slimy, but the pain you can cause is unbeleivable, they're like a dog on leash.

I've got several other techniques, most of em pretty drastic and brutal. Picked em up in my bad old days. I haven't had to resort to them for years, and want to keep it that way.

My collected observations:

People would rather sucker punch than throw something at someone who's looking at them.

Funny people never have to get in fights, so long as they're not alone. No one, for whatever reason, wants to fight with a crowd lauging at/booing them.

If you're quick with good aim and deliberate, the instep, shin, groin, throat, upward blow under the chin, bridge of the nose, or eye will end a fight pretty quick.

Big people can just knock the other person down, and back away, putting obsticals and space between them. If the other person is really drunk or terminally stupid they might charge into a fist.

But people are crazy, some have guns. In so far as I have occasion to do stuff like this, I just try to look like I don't care if I have to goto jail, and try to buy them a drink, smiling the whole time. If they accept the offer, I buy one beer and try to guilt them into shaking my hand first, when the beer is on it's way I put the money down, and slip away before it gets there. The cops will never be involved, you'll never be shot, you'll never look like a pussy, and you'll never be asked to leave.

Somebody who could really fight, would probably just wait and counter-punch. Not so oddly, I don't think those kinds of people ever get into a fight where a ring isn't involved. There's probably a lesson or something to be learned from that.

Go straight for the nose, until its a pulp, he will have second thoughts about attacking you again.

Honestly?

I've been in alot of fights in my life, and I've learned one thing, being brutal is the bast thing to do. This whole avoid confrontation thing doesn't work, it just encourages your potential assailant. Don't even let him finish what he's saying. Don't even give him the chance to get geared up. As soon as the guy starts jibbering at you, punch nice and square between the eyes, as hard as you can. If that doesn't put him on his ass, do it again. Repeat until you attain desired result. But once you have him on the ground, don't stop there. Go ahead and get on top of him, and give him three or four swift punchs to the nose. Not to the brim, to the nostrils, the cartilige, where it counts. Then grab him by his big ol ears and slam his head into the pavement nice and hard two or three times. This whole procedure will take you all of twenty seconds, and by this point, three out of four tough guys will be crying for their mommy like a little bitch. Get up, brush yourself off, walk away.

Honestly?

I've been in alot of fights in my life, and I've learned one thing, being brutal is the bast thing to do.
how sad. Few more times and you'll find yourself in jail and that's exactly what you deserve. Or you're trolling. Which is sad too.

how sad. Few more times and you'll find yourself in jail and that's exactly what you deserve. Or you're trolling. Which is sad too.

A pretencious pacifist, how sad. I'm very sorry that I won't let myself be pushed around by tough guys that think they have the right to ruin my day. Maybe if you grew up in my neighborhood, you'd have a different outlook. And no, I won't end up in jail for self defence, sorry. And no, not every post you disagree with qualifies as trolling.

A pretencious pacifist, how sad. I'm very sorry that I won't let myself be pushed around by tough guys that think they have the right to ruin my day. Maybe if you grew up in my neighborhood, you'd have a different outlook. And no, I won't end up in jail for self defence, sorry. And no, not every post you disagree with qualifies as trolling.
What you wrote was nowhere near self defence. You said that you'll hit before the guy finishes his sentence. And that makes you a violent jerk.

For instance, this works nice and it's very easy, I like to dodge a hit, get the guy's arm from behind, and pull it from the back to the point where the guy is down and begging for me to stop.



Don't they just back kick you in the balls?

When you get into a fight, do you guys also find a way to get out of it?

I tell them exactly what will happen to them if they start anything. Whether I can do it or not doesn't matter to them (though, as I'm not a particularly bulky person I have had to take certain steps to be able to defend myself, plus it's a fun hobby), but I have... THE EYES... combined with the stuff I say, they think I'm crazy and bugger off. No-one wants to fight a madman. You can't hurt them for all the morphine, and they don't care if they die, go to jail, get blood on their clothes, get entrails on their clothes... etc.

What you wrote was nowhere near self defence. You said that you'll hit before the guy finishes his sentence. And that makes you a violent jerk.
Even if it was self-defense, he could still go to jail for it, at least in PA. I forget the term for it, but it's something like "using more force than necessary." It's happened.

What you wrote was nowhere near self defence. You said that you'll hit before the guy finishes his sentence. And that makes you a violent jerk.

No, that makes me aware enough to know when violence can't be avoided. If someone comes at me with threatening language, pushing and shouting, for no good reason (I don't provoke conflicts of this sort, actually, I'd say I'm a pretty nice person) then I know that a physical conflict is unavoidable. In such a situation, I'd rather not be the guy left bleeding in the dirt. In such situations, initiative and swift action are imperative. I've never started a fight in my life, but if someone threatens my personal safety, or that of someone I care for, you better believe I'm turning my carnivor on. Bringing such situations to swift and brutal conclusions often means avoiding being stabbed, robbed, or hospitalized. That's what the real world is like, at least where I am, and I'm very sorry if in your mind this makes me a "violent jerk" and a "troll".

Don't they just back kick you in the balls?

Thats where i kick anyone who attacks me, its low i know, but it works and once they can't walk they can't fight.

From that point there are 3 alternative things you can do:

1. If its not really serious buy em a beer and clear it all up.

2. Ring the police.

3. Leg it. :D

Even if it was self-defense, he could still go to jail for it, at least in PA. I forget the term for it, but it's something like "using more force than necessary." It's happened.

For what I described? Wouldn't hold up in court. Believe me.... :confused:

:rolleyes: No, just punch him in the head. And push him over if he tries any of that highkick shit. It only works in movies anyway, the guy is so off balance its rediculous...

That all depends on how fast the guy can kick. If hes practiced any martial art with strong emphasis on kicks e.g. Kickboxing, tae kwon do, etc then he/she will be able to pull off a high kick faster than you can stop it.

I've generally found that minding my own business works pretty well for avoiding fights. Barring that, any handy object can be used as a club/cutting instrument/whatever. The only "fair fight" is in the Ring, and only kids can afford to get into fights outside the ring. I haven't been a kid in a very long time. Dominance is better proven with wealth or brains, and the only kind of fighting I can really remember, involves shooting the other fellow before he shoots you-since I don't wear the green suit anymore, I don't have to worry about getting into those kind of fights anymore. It's kind of amazing how the blood cools off when you pass the age of twenty.

For what I described? Wouldn't hold up in court. Believe me.... :confused:

Well if you were the first to make an assault you could be charged with Aggrevated Assault, or the US equivilent.

just talk about them behind their backs go on, be a girl

For what I described? Wouldn't hold up in court. Believe meThen they clearly have incompetent lawyers arguing the case. The case I'm referring to was a stripper was groped (after hours) by a drunk guy, and backed against a wall. She beat the hell out of him, and got 7 months in prison.

Well if you were the first to make an assault you could be charged with Aggrevated Assault, or the US equivilent.

Well, if you want to get into the technicalities of it (and I am by no means any kind of lawyer) generaly getting shoved or threatened in close quarters is considered to be first contact and anything you may do in reaction is considered self-defense. In the hypothetical situation that the guy tries to take you to court, from my experience with friends and such, the judge would have to be a real shit head to put you behind bars for acting out your basic instinct for self preservation. Though I'm sure it happens, I haven't experienced it personaly. I guess it depends on where you are, what the dynamic of your area is, if you actually have enough foresite to have a good personal lawyer on call, etc.

the judge would have to be a real shit head to put you behind bars for acting out your basic instinct for self preservation.
Once you've got the guy laying on the ground, anything you do afterwards is no longer self preservation.

Then they clearly have incompetent lawyers arguing the case. The case I'm referring to was a stripper was groped (after hours) by a drunk guy, and backed against a wall. She beat the hell out of him, and got 7 months in prison.

I dont know the U.S. equivalent but in Britain the rule is you only use enough force to get yourself out of the situation. If the stripper had kicked the guy in the groin once then that would have been acceptable but anything after that is unneccesary force and she would be charged with an offence. The way i was always taught it was that if I threw a guy who grabbed me then I was in the clear but if i chose to hit him after that instead of making every effort to get away from the situation then I was in the wrong.

Well, if you want to get into the technicalities of it (and I am by no means any kind of lawyer) generaly getting shoved or threatened in close quarters is considered to be first contact and anything you may do in reaction is considered self-defense. In the hypothetical situation that the guy tries to take you to court, from my experience with friends and such, the judge would have to be a real shit head to put you behind bars for acting out your basic instinct for self preservation. Though I'm sure it happens, I haven't experienced it personaly. I guess it depends on where you are, what the dynamic of your area is, if you actually have enough foresite to have a good personal lawyer on call, etc.


Depends though, I mean you said you would assault him before he has even finished speaking. If that was the case there are plenty of judges who would send you to jail. Sure if he pushed you first they would be more leinient, and if he attacked you even more so, but as you said

Go ahead and get on top of him, and give him three or four swift punchs to the nose. Not to the brim, to the nostrils, the cartilige, where it counts. Then grab him by his big ol ears and slam his head into the pavement nice and hard two or three times.

quite a few would see that as very over to top, esp over here in the UK where you can only use 'appropriate force' and you have to make every effort to get away from the situation too. I'm sure its the same in some US states too, if thats where you are from (?). Your best bet would be to give him a dead leg or something, that effectively disables the attacker, but does no caus any long term damage, unlike the way you so descibe. But I agree, it varies from place to place.

Once you've got the guy laying on the ground, anything you do afterwards is no longer self preservation.

Yes, unless he has a knife, and is ready to stand up and stab you in the back as soon as you turn around. You can't know, you must be sure that he will not pursue you. Like I said, such a scenario would last all of twenty seconds. You're not breaking any bones, or crippling your assailant in any way. You hit him, drop him to the ground, close to make sure he's not getting up, and then walk away. There's no excessive force involved.

Yes, unless he has a knife, and is ready to stand up and stab you in the back as soon as you turn around. You can't know, you must be sure that he will not pursue you. Like I said, such a scenario would last all of twenty seconds. You're not breaking any bones, or crippling your assailant in any way. You hit him, drop him to the ground, close to make sure he's not getting up, and then walk away. There's no excessive force involved.

I'm sure a prosecution lawyer would disagree with your 'excessive force' if you advocate slamming the attackers head into the pavement a few times as you said.

Yes, unless he has a knife, and is ready to stand up and stab you in the back as soon as you turn around. You can't know, you must be sure that he will not pursue you. Like I said, such a scenario would last all of twenty seconds. You're not breaking any bones, or crippling your assailant in any way. You hit him, drop him to the ground, close to make sure he's not getting up, and then walk away. There's no excessive force involved.

So your telling me a guy that is lying on the ground will be able to jump up and stab you faster than you can turn and run? why do you have to hurt him so badly that he is immobile when you could just kick the knife away from him instead? No sane person thinks they have a good chance of fighting with a guy with a knife without getting cut. Your best chance is to run

I'm sure a prosecution lawyer would disagree with your 'excessive force' if you advocate slamming the attackers head into the pavement a few times as you said.

If I "advocate" slamming the attackers head into the pavement? I wrote up one possible scenario of quickly putting an end to a potentialy life threatening situation, I'm not "advocating" anything. And I difinitly wouldn't be standing in court "advocating" slamming someone's head into the ground. Nor would l be reasonably expected to recall the play-by-play of the twenty seconds between the begining of the situation and my walking away from it. Nor would the over aggressive, probably drunk or cracked out random looney on the street who tried to jump me in the first place find me out and charge me with assault. Lets be real here.

So your telling me a guy that is lying on the ground will be able to jump up and stab you faster than you can turn and run? why do you have to hurt him so badly that he is immobile when you could just kick the knife away from him instead? No sane person thinks they have a good chance of fighting with a guy with a knife without getting cut. Your best chance is to run

You've obviously never been in a similar situation, and I really have no desire to argue abstract hypotheticals with you. I'll say this much though, a guy who has a knife usually has it conceled, so you don't know if he has one or not. Turn your back to a guy with a knife, chances are he's going to use it. Run from a guy with a knife, you'd better hope you outrun him.

If I "advocate" slamming the attackers head into the pavement? I wrote up one possible scenario of quickly putting an end to a potentialy life threatening situation, I'm not "advocating" anything. And I difinitly wouldn't be standing in court "advocating" slamming someone's head into the ground. Nor would l be reasonably expected to recall the play-by-play of the twenty seconds between the begining of the situation and my walking away from it. Nor would the over aggressive, probably drunk or cracked out random looney on the street who tried to jump me in the first place find me out and charge me with assault. Lets be real here.

Your making too many assumptions and gambling on the attackers state of mind. If you go into a fight with that kind of attitude your putting yourself at risk from prosecution and personal injury

If I "advocate" slamming the attackers head into the pavement? I wrote up one possible scenario of quickly putting an end to a potentialy life threatening situation, I'm not "advocating" anything. And I difinitly wouldn't be standing in court "advocating" slamming someone's head into the ground. Nor would l be reasonably expected to recall the play-by-play of the twenty seconds between the begining of the situation and my walking away from it. Nor would the over aggressive, probably drunk or cracked out random looney on the street who tried to jump me in the first place find me out and charge me with assault. Lets be real here.

You might not say so in court, but you said it right here

Go ahead and get on top of him, and give him three or four swift punchs to the nose. Not to the brim, to the nostrils, the cartilige, where it counts. Then grab him by his big ol ears and slam his head into the pavement nice and hard two or three times.

That sounds like advocation to me. But maybe I'm just looking at it wrong. But the point still stands that if you would do what you said you would in your first post, there are more than a few legal systems that could charge you.

Your making too many assumptions and gambling on the attackers state of mind. If you go into a fight with that kind of attitude your putting yourself at risk from prosecution and personal injury

You're making the assumption that people who are trying to neutralize a potentialy life threatening situation are thinking about their court date. :rolleyes:

You might not say so in court, but you said it right here



That sounds like advocation to me. But maybe I'm just looking at it wrong. But the point still stands that if you would do what you said you would in your first post, there are more than a few legal systems that could charge you.

If I ever get rich, I'll hire you as my legal advisor. The next time someone tries to do physical violence to me, you can stand right there and advise me as to what not to do so I don't go to jail while I'm dealing with my assailant.

You've obviously never been in a similar situation, and I really have no desire to argue abstract hypotheticals with you. I'll say this much though, a guy who has a knife usually has it conceled, so you don't know if he has one or not. Turn your back to a guy with a knife, chances are he's going to use it. Run from a guy with a knife, you'd better hope you outrun him.

Dont make assumptions about my past experiences. Yes he probably will have it concealed but who says you have to turn your back on him. Step back while facing him until your at a safe distance before turning. That way if he jumps up your still in a good position to attempt a defence. Running gives you a way better chance of getting away than trying to take on a guy with a knife who could easily know how to use it

You're making the assumption that people who are trying to neutralize a potentialy life threatening situation are thinking about their court date. :rolleyes:

I'll grant you that but you arent talking about neutralising it simply. You are talking about neutralising the situation and then attacking further when the attacker has been weakened already

For instance, this works nice and it's very easy, I like to dodge a hit, get the guy's arm from behind, and pull it from the back to the point where the guy is down and begging for me to stop.

Works better if you straighten out the arm and bend the elbow joint the wrong way.

But violence is bad, mmkay? I only recommend that in self-defence.

I generally try and talk my way out of situations like that, and so far i've managed it all but one time i've had to. As a matter of course, though, I carry two stacks of 10 twopence pieces taped together with duct tape in my right pocket. If somebody starts something and you can't get away, you grab that and smack them right in the temple. It makes your fist twice as heavy as it normally is, and the guy will drop more or less straight away. I need every advantage I can get, because i'm not a big guy - so I can't hit particularly hard without the help of the coins and I tend to get picked on because i'm small. And I don't want to be the guy getting knocked down - i've heard that here in Manchester the general practice is to jump of people's faces once they're on the floor :(

For what I described? Wouldn't hold up in court. Believe me.... :confused:
Maybe not where you live, but around here, definitely.

Dont make assumptions about my past experiences. Yes he probably will have it concealed but who says you have to turn your back on him. Step back while facing him until your at a safe distance before turning. That way if he jumps up your still in a good position to attempt a defence. Running gives you a way better chance of getting away than trying to take on a guy with a knife who could easily know how to use it

You should write an instruction manual for dealing with such situations. You can call it: A Simple, PERFECTLY LEGAL (yays) 21 Step System For Avoiding Getting Yourself Killed And Staying Out of Jail While You Do It.

Maybe not where you live, but around here, definitely.

If I lived in Finland, I probably wouldn't get into the situations that I do, so the point is mut.

If I ever get rich, I'll hire you as my legal advisor. The next time someone tries to do physical violence to me, you can stand right there and advise me as to what not to do so I don't go to jail while I'm dealing with my assailant.

:rolleyes: Thats not what I meant and you know it.

My point is that if you are over zealous in your defence, then you might end up in a jail cell. Its not for me to advise you, its for you to do the least amount of damage possible to your assailent whilst trying to leave asap. Its also a persons responsibility to know the law.

You should write an instruction manual for dealing with such situations. You can call it: A Simple, PERFECTLY LEGAL (yays) 21 Step System For Avoiding Getting Yourself Killed And Staying Out of Jail While You Do It.

Go to any martial arts / self defence class and you'll have the same mentality drilled into you so that you dont have to think about it conciously

If I lived in Finland, I probably wouldn't get into the situations that I do, so the point is mut.
or in UK or in USA...

:rolleyes: Thats not what I meant and you know it.

My point is that if you are over zealous in your defence, then you might end up in a jail cell. Its not for me to advise you, its for you to do the least amount of damage possible to your assailent whilst trying to leave asap. Its also a persons responsibility to know the law.

If I end up rotting in a jail cell, I'll let you know.

Go to any martial arts / self defence class and you'll have the same mentality drilled into you so that you dont have to think about it conciously

Sure. You gonna pay my way? cause I sure as hell can't afford it.

or in UK or in USA...

That's not even a counterargument. Who's trolling now?

And I don't want to be the guy getting knocked down - i've heard that here in Manchester the general practice is to jump of people's faces once they're on the floor :(

Having narrowly escaped that less than plesent experience I know what you mean. Its esp bad in a club when the bouncers aren't particularly keen to intervene.

Sure. You gonna pay my way? cause I sure as hell can't afford it.

Fine you cant afford it but that doesnt make your way of doing things better than that of someone who can

If I end up rotting in a jail cell, I'll let you know.

Awww I'm gonna be your one phone call!!! :D

Having narrowly escaped that less than plesent experience I know what you mean. Its esp bad in a club when the bouncers aren't particularly keen to intervene.

I remember a lad bragging about doing it to somebody once. The idea of it makes me cringe, and i've got a pretty brutal mind. The bouncers i've encountered seem to be pretty keen to sort out trouble, though. Of course, by "sort out trouble", I mean chuck you both out and let you carry on on the street, where they can't get in any shit for what happens.

Fine you cant afford it but that doesnt make your way of doing things better than that of someone who can

Well, there's something we can agree on.

Awww I'm gonna be your one phone call!!! :D

No, I'll call you once I'm in. And you better send me a care package, damnit. ;)

Well, there's something we can agree on.

*releases a dove* TO PEACE :D

*releases a dove* TO PEACE :D

Cheers. :D

... I need every advantage I can get, because i'm not a big guy - so I can't hit particularly hard without the help of the coins and I tend to get picked on because i'm small. And I don't want to be the guy getting knocked down - i've heard that here in Manchester the general practice is to jump of people's faces once they're on the floor :(
Hmm, yes, some pick smaller ones, some like to test their "skill" on the bigger guys. I had a "big" (very fit and tall rugby player) friend in Manchester. Every time we were in city centre (night out) some drunken bastard tried to start a fight with him. But he's big enough to stop the situation without fighting.

That nice practice was in use in another town I lived earlier...

I am a pretty big bloke. Tall and buff. I play footy (AFL not grid iron we dont have that in aussie) and hagve shown many times on there (by tackling and beingable to shirtfront a guy HARD when they try to tackle me) not to mess with me so all i have to do now is look down on someone or just give them a menecing look and they back away very quickley.

Look, Ive been in a few scrapes myself, and never walked away with too much hurt.
Theres two things you have to know to properly defend yourself, if your not Bruce Lee.

1. There is no such thing as a fair fight.
A fair fight....is one you could have avoided.
If someone has the intention of fighting you, they mean to do bodily harm to you.
If you have to get into a fight, and cant avoid it.....make the point of showing that person that there wont be a return engagement.

2. The human nose is actually a pretty fragile thing.
The eyes and nose are awfully close together and one solid blow to the bridge of the nose will not only break it, but also immediately blacken and cuase the recipients eyes to swell shut.

Dont hit them with your fist.
If your hands arent made of stone, you will likely break a finger or a knuckle along with the aforementioned nose.
Use the heel of your palm.

Imagine your going to push the heel of your hand right through the guys face, and wallop him right along the bridge of the schnozz in question.

You'll likely hear a nasty crunch, and then see an awful lot of blood.

End of fight.

Fighting is for assholes, and hurting someone makes you an asshole as well, but if you have no other choice, and dont know Kung Fu.....smashing the beak will usually bring a swift end to an unpleasant situation.

I remember a lad bragging about doing it to somebody once. The idea of it makes me cringe, and i've got a pretty brutal mind. The bouncers i've encountered seem to be pretty keen to sort out trouble, though. Of course, by "sort out trouble", I mean chuck you both out and let you carry on on the street, where they can't get in any shit for what happens.

Exactly, they never take responsibility, the never phone an ambulance either. :mad:

Hmm, yes, some pick smaller ones, some like to test their "skill" on the bigger guys. I had a "big" (very fit and tall rugby player) friend in Manchester. Every time we were in city centre (night out) some drunken bastard tried to start a fight with him. But he's big enough to stop the situation without fighting.

That nice practice was in use in another town I lived earlier...

I play rugby, so i'm not soft - I can take a punch - but, like I said, i'm a small guy, built to play scrum half really. Luckily for me i've not had any shit since i've been living in Manchester, although i've got a mate who goes out looking for fights once he's drunk. And he's no bigger than me :rolleyes: If it came down to it, though, and I had to fight, i'd rather finish it quickly and still be standing at the end of it. I'm not above kicking a guy in the balls if I had to.

But i'd never jump on anybody's face *shudders*

I'm not above kicking a guy in the balls if I had to.

Well to be honest, if someone attacks you, slam em there straight away. It may not be the most honourable way of doing things, but as BackwoodsSquatches said, there ain't no such thing as a fair fight. Gets it over and done with and then you can just get out of there asap if need be.

Personally, one knee to the stomach/groin followed by a elbow in the small of the back works wonders.

That's not even a counterargument. Who's trolling now?
You could end up in jail in many countries, not only in my country. I don't know where you live but it's hard to believe that other countries wouldn't have similar areas. That your area is so much more violent and dangerous than any part of Finland, UK or USA.

Personally, one knee to the stomach/groin followed by a elbow in the small of the back works wonders.

I'll remember that one. Hopefully it'll never come down to it, though - i'm a lover, not a fighter :)

I'll remember that one. Hopefully it'll never come down to it, though - i'm a lover, not a fighter :)

I've only ever been in 2 so its all good.

Besides loving is far more fun :D

I've only ever been in 2 so its all good.

Besides loving is far more fun :D

Seconded :D

I've only been in the one, and got the shit kicked out of me - which was when I decided to start carrying to stack of coins, and not worry about getting hurt if there's a next time. Just aim to be as brutal as possible as quickly as possible and get the hell out of there :rolleyes:

No, I'll call you once I'm in. And you better send me a care package, damnit. ;)

Well if the rumours about jail are true, i'd best send lubricant....

There is no such thing is a reliable single-blow method of winning a fight. Breaking the nose has been suggested several times . It can work but there is one problem. People instinctivly protect their faces. You either have to catch them offguard or set them up for the blow. Even then, there are some people who would kee fighting.

Also, it is usually a bad idea to mount someone who may have a knife unless you are sure that you have control of his arms. Otherwise you leave yourself vulnerable to a fatal stabbing.

Bw confident. Look the other way. Mind your own businness, and be friendly, kind, and courteous. Those are the best ways to avoid a fight.

If that doesn't work, shoot first don't and bother with questions. As a rule of thumb you should never willingly fight someone who wants to fight you because that person either has a weapon, is so crazy that he doesn't need a weapon, or both.

... If it came down to it, though, and I had to fight, i'd rather finish it quickly and still be standing at the end of it. I'm not above kicking a guy in the balls if I had to.

But i'd never jump on anybody's face *shudders*
Well, I'd always be the one on the ground...I've hit only two people. The first one hit my friend with a bottle without a warning, I tackled him to ground (I managed to do that because a) he did not see me b) he was very drunk c) he was quite small) The other was a girl who attacked me as I was sitting on the ground, minding my own business. She just kept kicking me (not very hard) I got bored, rose and smacked her on the face (quite gently). Heh, she freaked and started screaming...I could have just left but don't feel bad about it. I certainly did not hurt anything else than her self esteem.

Well, I'd always be the one on the ground...


Awwwww :fluffle:

Just stick to loving rather than fighting ;) :fluffle:

Awwwww :fluffle:

Just stick to loving rather than fighting ;) :fluffle:
Certainly. I'm the master of love... ;) :fluffle:


BTW...Many have suggested that it's a good idea to try to break the nose. I'd suggest that you really keep that as the last option. It can be very effective but it can also be deadly. Especially if you hit upwards and in the fight it can be a bit difficult to aim your punches. Of course it's rare but I wouldn't want to count on luck on that one.

Certainly. I'm the master of love... ;) :fluffle:

Now thats some fighting talk!

I guess we'll have to 'fight' to see who is the master :p :D

Now thats some fighting talk!

I guess we'll have to 'fight' to see who is the master :p :D
Wow....Well, I guess so. I'll be prepared :D

Wow....Well, I guess so. I'll be prepared :D

:eek: :D

Prepared eh? Now I am curious.... ;)