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Anyone happens to know something about the Philippines?

Tluiko
30-05-2005, 16:47
Anyone happens to know something about the Philippines?
I am goint to represent the Philippines in a MUN (Model United Nations).
I will have to discuss about Iran's nuclear program. So anyone happens to know anything about the Philippines' position in this issue?
They were a member of the "coalition of the willing", but I do not exactly whether they would as well support a war against Iran.
And does anyone happen to know how exatly the USA wants to stop the Iran?
Mennon
30-05-2005, 17:41
Anyone happens to know something about the Philippines?
I am goint to represent the Philippines in a MUN (Model United Nations).
I will have to discuss about Iran's nuclear program. So anyone happens to know anything about the Philippines' position in this issue?
They were a member of the "coalition of the willing", but I do not exactly whether they would as well support a war against Iran.
And does anyone happen to know how exatly the USA wants to stop the Iran?

From what I know of the Philippines is that the population is predominantly Catholic, though faces problem's from Muslim speratist groups in the South, therefore a war with Iran might esculate that problem.

But for more go wikipedia, as it has detailed articles on counties! ;)
Monkeypimp
30-05-2005, 17:45
MUN's are awesome :D I'm a CA at my second national MUN next month.
Gartref
30-05-2005, 18:06
Anyone happens to know something about the Philippines?

The Philippines were named after Philip of Macedon who conquered the island in 352 B.C.

The official language is called Tagalong. It is a mixture of Greek, Spanish and Chinese.

The Philippines is a charter member of the Pacific Ring of Fire.
Oye Oye
31-05-2005, 08:12
The Philippines were named after Philip of Macedon who conquered the island in 352 B.C.

The official language is called Tagalong. It is a mixture of Greek, Spanish and Chinese.

The Philippines is a charter member of the Pacific Ring of Fire.


If you buy this I have some beach front property in Nevada I'd like to sell you.
Pepe Dominguez
31-05-2005, 09:14
The official language is called Tagalong. It is a mixture of Greek, Spanish and Chinese.


I'm pretty sure Tagalog is a mix of Indonesian and Spanish. It's an Austronesian language.
Cannot think of a name
31-05-2005, 09:28
I'm pretty sure Tagalog is a mix of Indonesian and Spanish. It's an Austronesian language.
Viva google-
TAGALOG is one of the major languages spoken in the Philippines, mostly by people from the Tagalog regions in the main island of Luzon. It is the lingua franca in Metro Manila, the national capital region of the country. It also serves as a base for Filipino, one of the two official languages of the Philippines (along with English). Read this interesting essay on the metamorphosis of Filipino as national language.

The TAGALOG language has very strong affinity with Malay languages (Bahasa Indonesia/Malay). However, due to more than 300 years of Spanish colonial rule over the Philippines, the language has incorporated a significant number of Spanish words and expressions. The language also includes words and phrases that are rooted in English and Chinese.

According to the 1990 and 2000 United States Census, TAGALOG is the second most commonly-spoken Asian language (after Chinese) in the United States, and the sixth non-English language spoken in America. TAGALOG is the lingua franca of Filipinos anywhere in the world. Most Southeast Asian scholars use TAGALOG as the tool for research in the Philippines. It is also the language of major works in literature and that of Philippine films and songs.
http://www.seasite.niu.edu/Tagalog/Tagalog_mainpage.htm
Draco Delacroix
31-05-2005, 18:42
I do not know much about the Phillipines except how the US tried "change" their people for the better and then they kicked us out. My teacher Dr. Hart and his son have both been there before, but I don't know much about it.
However, I have been to two MUN's and 2 Model Arab League's. My suggestion, gather all info you can, wait out the first 10-20 minutes until you see a clear divide in positions, and then go on the side that, as far as you can tell, best agrees with your nation. Don't worry about the info so much; many people get awards at those things without really doing anything.
Whispering Legs
31-05-2005, 19:47
I'm sure you could call their Embassy, and speak to someone who could give you the right information.

Worked for me, in the ancient days when I went to the model UN in New York.
Greedy Pig
31-05-2005, 19:56
Do they even have a stand?

They got more problems internally to worry about whats happening outside Phillipines. From the crazy inflation, muslim seperatist in the south and poverty so what not.

They'll probably just send 50 soldiers with the US troops as a sign of being in the 'coalition of the willing'.

Btw, Good luck, it's going to be hard.
Lacadaemon
31-05-2005, 19:57
I know they eat duck embryos. I don't know why.
Drunk commies reborn
31-05-2005, 19:57
N. Phillipines is mainly Catholic
S. Phillipines has large Muslim communities.
S. Phillipines is home to Abu Sayyaf, an islamist terrorist group affiliated with Al Quaeda.

Philipines is home to many martial arts styles that fall under the headings of Kali, Escrima and Arnis. Most are weapons-heavy styles designed for fighting battles between villages, and against invaders, like the Madjapahit empire, the Muslim invaders after that, the Spanish after them, the Americans, then the Japanese in WWII. Currently the Phillipines have good relations with the USA.

Tagalog is a common language there, but there are other languages spoken regionally.

Hope some of this helps.
Carmine Eye
31-05-2005, 20:07
Anyone happens to know something about the Philippines?
I am goint to represent the Philippines in a MUN (Model United Nations).
I will have to discuss about Iran's nuclear program. So anyone happens to know anything about the Philippines' position in this issue?
They were a member of the "coalition of the willing", but I do not exactly whether they would as well support a war against Iran.
And does anyone happen to know how exatly the USA wants to stop the Iran?
lol, I represented the Philippines for a Model United Nations Conferance back in February. Basically, think Democratic but Catholic USA. They pretty much agree with us on every issue, but sometimes with a slightly more liberal stance with the exception of things that contrast with the beliefs of the catholic church. I represented them on the Security Council for my conferance. We debated the Sudan Crisis, North Korea and Nuclear Weapons, and the possible adding of more permanant member nations. They believed in aid being sent to Sudan and the giving African Union troops permission to enter the country to help settle the conflict, North Korea entering Six-party talks (N. Korea, S. Korea, USA, China, Russia, Japan), and that Asia/Oceania should have more representation on the Security Council.

Other facts:
They have a female president.
They are made up of over 700 islands.
They have a much more liberal stance on environmental protection than us.
Are quickly becoming more and more economically powerful.
Roach-Busters
31-05-2005, 20:10
I have plenty of Filipina friends. Ask me anything about the Philippines, and I can ask one of them for you.
Oye Oye
01-06-2005, 05:17
I do not know much about the Phillipines except how the US tried "change" their people for the better and then they kicked us out.

Following the American - Spanish War the U.S. signed a peace treaty and paid Spain $20million for the Phillipines. A revolutionary named Aguinaldo claimed the United states had promised to make the Philippines independant. When this did not happen a fight for Phillipino independence began in Feb 4 1899. Aguinaldo was captured and the U.S. set up a colonial government in the Philippines with William Howard Taft as governor. Several attrocities and crimes against humanity were commited under this government. Eventually the Phillipines were granted independence but several Presidents since then have been essentially puppets for the U.S.
Gartref
01-06-2005, 05:22
I know they eat duck embryos. I don't know why.

Because they are crunchier than just duck eggs. This delicacy has been enjoyed in the Philippines since Etruscan times. It is eaten thrice yearly to celebrate victories against the Trojans, Chinese and Carthaginians. Hope this helps.
Oye Oye
01-06-2005, 06:41
Because they are crunchier than just duck eggs. This delicacy has been enjoyed in the Philippines since Etruscan times. It is eaten thrice yearly to celebrate victories against the Trojans, Chinese and Carthaginians. Hope this helps.

Another little known fact about the Philipines is that the word Gartref is synonymous with the phrase "lying monkey's ass"
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 06:50
Anyone happens to know something about the Philippines?
I am goint to represent the Philippines in a MUN (Model United Nations).
I will have to discuss about Iran's nuclear program. So anyone happens to know anything about the Philippines' position in this issue?
They were a member of the "coalition of the willing", but I do not exactly whether they would as well support a war against Iran.
And does anyone happen to know how exatly the USA wants to stop the Iran?

What about Iran? We don't really care much about the Iranians.

I'm Filipino by the way.

Well Madam Gloria may be a part of the CotW but that doesn't necessarily mean she's supported by everyone. The Philippines has, as Stanley Karnow aptly put it, 'A love hate relationship' with America.

Hit me back about anything!
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 06:54
I do not know much about the Phillipines except how the US tried "change" their people for the better and then they kicked us out. My teacher Dr. Hart and his son have both been there before, but I don't know much about it.
However, I have been to two MUN's and 2 Model Arab League's. My suggestion, gather all info you can, wait out the first 10-20 minutes until you see a clear divide in positions, and then go on the side that, as far as you can tell, best agrees with your nation. Don't worry about the info so much; many people get awards at those things without really doing anything.

McKinley said that God told him at beddy-bye prayers that it was America's Manifest Destiny, it's God given duty to Christianize, Civilize and Educate the Philippines.

What the idiot with the backbone of a chocolate eclair didn't know was:

The Philippines was Catholic for the last 300 years under Spain. Last I looked that made them Christian.

The Philippines had its own civilization and trade rights with China and Southeast Asia before Spain. Even Spanish attorney general in the Philippines (circa 1600s) Don Antonio de Morga admitted as much.

The Philippines HAS the oldest university in Asia, the University of Santo Tomas, founded long before venerable Harvard.

So America proceeded to civilize the Filipino people with the Krag, water-cure and concentration camps while turning an entire island into a 'howling wilderness' and shooting boys 10 years old and older at the behest of Nobel Peace prize winner President Theodore Roosevelt.
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 06:55
I know they eat duck embryos. I don't know why.

It's called Balut and it's actually really delicious. You all can eat hardboiled eggs and it's not particularly different (except for the feathers).
Oye Oye
01-06-2005, 07:00
It's called Balut and it's actually really delicious. You all can eat hardboiled eggs and it's not particularly different (except for the feathers).

I agree with pretty much everything you said, except for the balut part... that stuff is gross.
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 07:00
Following the American - Spanish War the U.S. signed a peace treaty and paid Spain $20million for the Phillipines. A revolutionary named Aguinaldo claimed the United states had promised to make the Philippines independant. When this did not happen a fight for Phillipino independence began in Feb 4 1899. Aguinaldo was captured and the U.S. set up a colonial government in the Philippines with William Howard Taft as governor. Several attrocities and crimes against humanity were commited under this government. Eventually the Phillipines were granted independence but several Presidents since then have been essentially puppets for the U.S.

Pretty much... Aguinaldo was the president of the First Philippine republic which had been fighting the Spaniards for national independence since 1896. When the whole thing reached a stalemate in 1897 the Spanish brokered a truce which stipulated that the revolutionary junta be exiled to Hong Kong. There he met with the American consul and Commodore George Dewey who verbally promised to help him return inasmuch as America had no 'colonial aspirations'. His big mistake was never to get anything in writing.

Filipinos tend to be very gullible where white foreigners are concerned.
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 07:08
I agree with pretty much everything you said, except for the balut part... that stuff is gross.

Well it IS called Balut... and actually it is... a bit ... okay, if you're not used to it, it's REALLY gross. I used to eat it but I stopped when I found a well developed duckling in one. Some Philippine food looks really... unpalatable... but it's really good once you get the hang of it ;)
Oye Oye
01-06-2005, 07:11
Pretty much... Aguinaldo was the president of the First Philippine republic which had been fighting the Spaniards for national independence since 1896. When the whole thing reached a stalemate in 1897 the Spanish brokered a truce which stipulated that the revolutionary junta be exiled to Hong Kong. There he met with the American consul and Commodore George Dewey who verbally promised to help him return inasmuch as America had no 'colonial aspirations'. His big mistake was never to get anything in writing.

Filipinos tend to be very gullible where white foreigners are concerned.

I wouldn't call it gullible. For most of their history they seem to be having to choose between the lesser of two evils. ie. Japanese death marches or American colonialism?
Oye Oye
01-06-2005, 07:17
Well it IS called Balut... and actually it is... a bit ... okay, if you're not used to it, it's REALLY gross. I used to eat it but I stopped when I found a well developed duckling in one. Some Philippine food looks really... unpalatable... but it's really good once you get the hang of it ;)

My father is from Manilla and he has this incredibly tragic but funny story about how they were so poor that his family had to sell his dog to the neighbours. The next day he came home from school and smelled something on his neighbour's barbeque. When he looked he realised it was his dog. I know to most people who read this it will sound totally horrible, but the way my father tells the story you can't help but laugh.
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 07:25
I wouldn't call it gullible. For most of their history they seem to be having to choose between the lesser of two evils. ie. Japanese death marches or American colonialism?

Neither if possible. Aguinaldo shouldn't have invited Dewey over. If not... the Germans under Adm.Von Dietrichs were set to move in (another reason McKinley wanted Dewey to stay - as did the British) but I don't think being a colony of Germany would have been too bad, in fact the national hero, Dr.Jose Rizal, was educated in Germany. Then again that's all hypothetical.
Oye Oye
01-06-2005, 07:30
Neither if possible. Aguinaldo shouldn't have invited Dewey over. If not... the Germans under Adm.Von Dietrichs were set to move in (another reason McKinley wanted Dewey to stay - as did the British) but I don't think being a colony of Germany would have been too bad, in fact the national hero, Dr.Jose Rizal, was educated in Germany. Then again that's all hypothetical.

I'm curious to know your opinions on Marcos. From the U.S. media I was given the impression that he was the worst person in the world, but from reading articles on the internet I'm learning he tried to implement some important social reforms.
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 07:32
When I went to the states I found it rather strange to see all the birds flying around... birds larger than common sparrows aren't really safe in Manila. When did your dad move to... err... the States?

Yeah they do that to dogs sometimes. We had a pet puppy named Sandy who got locked out inadvertently... never heard from it again but I can imagine what happened. Anyways, it's not really condoned at least not like in Korea.
Gartref
01-06-2005, 07:33
Another little known fact about the Philipines is that the word Gartref is synonymous with the phrase "lying monkey's ass"

Close. It's actually "Ass of the flying monkey". It too, is considered a delicacy.
Individualnost
01-06-2005, 07:36
The Philippines were named after Philip of Macedon who conquered the island in 352 B.C.

The official language is called Tagalong. It is a mixture of Greek, Spanish and Chinese.

The Philippines is a charter member of the Pacific Ring of Fire.
You crazy man. Need brain.
Oye Oye
01-06-2005, 07:37
Close. It's actually "Ass of the flying monkey". It too, is considered a delicacy.

Now that all depends on whether you put the accent on "Gart" or "Ref"
Gartref
01-06-2005, 07:45
Now that all depends on whether you put the accent on "Gart" or "Ref"

Wow. Thanks. That just explained a number of zany situations I experienced in Manila.
Maharlikana
01-06-2005, 09:50
Seriously, for the sake of the original poster, I think you will find yourself facing VERY serious mass protests and possibly even a non-violent uprising (though this depends on how 'well' you've been running the country till now and the state of the economy) like what happened to Presidents Marcos and Estrada if you openly support with military forces (ie. not aid workers) a war in Iran. There is a very VERY strong socialist (American republicans will call it Leftist I think) element at work here for good or for ill, the communist party's leadership is alive and well (in the Netherlands) and students of the nation's top universities feel that being 'revolutionary' is the 'cool' thing to do.

Mabuhay ka p're,
Maharlikana