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i just noticed this as i started up my puter. so, is she the bestest mom ever or should she be in jail for this?


NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A mother faces criminal charges after she hired a stripper to dance at her 16-year-old son’s birthday party.

Anette Pharris, 34, has been indicted by a grand jury on charges of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and involving a minor in obscene acts. The boy’s father, the stripper and two others also face charges.

“I tried to do something special for my son,” Pharris said. “It didn’t harm him.”

About 10 people under the age of 18 were at the birthday party in September, including minors who were not related to the family, authorities said.

Police spokesman Don Aaron said minors are not permitted in adult establishments.

“A person shouldn’t be allowed to circumvent that law by hiring a stripper, a lady who took all her clothes off and spent a good amount of time dancing around minors,” he said.

Anette Pharris took photos at the party and tried to have them developed at a nearby drug store. Drug store employees notified authorities, police said.

“Who are they to tell me what I can and can’t show to my own children?” the mother said.

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She makes a damn good point, which I agree with. Ehh, stupid bullshit puritan laws.

And they say the US is the land of the free. JC, you can't even trust your local photo company.

Sweet holy mother of crap!

She certainly shouldn't be jailed, but this is an unusual and extreme case. She should be charged with a public order offence, or whatever the equivalent is over there. Sometimes at the extreme edges of laws like this injustices happen - that's why variable sentences are there, to minimise the unjust punishment of those who have broken laws with only the best at heart.

She makes a damn good point, which I agree with. Ehh, stupid bullshit puritan laws.So what's next, hire a prostitute for him on his 18th?

And they say the US is the land of the free. JC, you can't even trust your local photo company.

It is their patriotic duty to report any deviant or counterproductive behavior.

i think that's kind of an awesome thing for a mum to do, although it probably wasn't the best idea with other people's kids there unless she'd told other parents

So what's next, hire a prostitute for him on his 18th?

If he's okay with it, why not? I'm failing to see what's "wrong" with all this.

It is their patriotic duty to report any deviant or counterproductive behavior.

Sending customers to jail. Great way to get new customers. :)

What right did the drugstore have to notify authorities about that???
Isn't there some confidentiality in volved? Or cn they put all your horrible holiday pictures on display if they want to?

If he's okay with it, why not? I'm failing to see what's "wrong" with all this.
can you adopt me then? :D

So what's next, hire a prostitute for him on his 18th?
at 18 you are an adult and make your OWN choices


thats why your 18th birthday present is a visit to the brothel.

What she shows to her own son is her responsibility, but were the people he was with (the other minors) allowed by their parents to be there? If she checked with them and it was OK, then I don't think she's done anything wrong (morally, at least). What the law says about it may well be different I guess.

How old is your son?

Sending customers to jail. Great way to get new customers. :)

All the patriots get their photo's developed there. The competition is for the communists. Are you a communist? :sniper:


:p

the joys of digital photography....

and and can anyone else say *whole load of trash*

lets face it, who actually waits until their 18 before they start having sex, let alone watching porn/whatever... for that matter who waits until their 16 (age of consent here in UK)?!

*makes no comment about personal exp of the matter as would probably cause me to be arrested in some countries*

Cause your son lived through alot so introduce him to NS?

can you adopt me then? :D

I doubt 17-year-olds can adopt people older than them :p.

Get a digital camera and print your own photos (or make your own videos).

What right did the drugstore have to notify authorities about that???
Isn't there some confidentiality in volved? Or cn they put all your horrible holiday pictures on display if they want to?
if they think something illegal has been going on then they have every right to notify the authorities! what if someone sent in some kiddie porn to be developed? would you be against them notifying the authorities then?!

What right did the drugstore have to notify authorities about that???
Isn't there some confidentiality in volved? Or cn they put all your horrible holiday pictures on display if they want to?
no, there have been many cases of developers turning people in for various photo indescretions.

jot this down for future reference

#1

dont take pics of your babies in the bathtub or running around naked. the developer will turn you in for CHILD PORN and you will spend a good long time in jail

#2
many unscrupulous workers will make extra copies of any "provocative" photos that come their way. these can end up anywhere.

All the patriots get their photo's developed there. The competition is for the communists. Are you a communist? :sniper:


:p

Considering 99.999999% of Walmart's stuff is Chinese made, Commies are cool right? :D

She makes a damn good point, which I agree with. Ehh, stupid bullshit puritan laws.
Perhaps, but from where I sit she just looks stupid. :(

no, there have been many cases of developers turning people in for various photo indescretions.

jot this down for future reference

#1

dont take pics of your babies in the bathtub or running around naked. the developer will turn you in for CHILD PORN and you will spend a good long time in jail

#2
many unscrupulous workers will make extra copies of any "provocative" photos that come their way. these can end up anywhere.


Wow... digital cameras are a blessing!!!

honestly arent there just SOME things you dont want your mom around for??

and isnt your first "lap dance" one of them???

I doubt 17-year-olds can adopt people older than them :p.
Damn... :(

hey...wait... 17... so did you get your Strip show then?

Considering 99.999999% of Walmart's stuff is Chinese made, Commies are cool right? :D
Firstly, were did you get that stat?

Secondly, China is now more capitalist than communist. :p

honestly arent there just SOME things you dont want your mom around for??

and isnt your first "lap dance" one of them???
did she stick around and watch?!

ya know... I'm just wondering... How much did they pay the Stripper to perform for Minors... I mean, wouldn't they refuse the job since it boarders on Child Pornography as well as the Deliquency and Corruption of a Minor?(which is against US law)

why wasn't the Stripper arrested?

did she stick around and watch?!
There were photos, and the fact that she hired the stripper really makes the point moot on weather or not she watched.

Damn... :(

hey...wait... 17... so did you get your Strip show then?

Pfff. Nope! I've never even had a birthday party, so...

I agree that if the friend parents also ok'ed this, there is nothing wrong with it.

Btw. can any of you 'merikans inform me of the age of concent in the US? (in Denmark it's 15)

Pfff. Nope! I've never even had a birthday party, so...
awww :fluffle:

Lovfro... it's 18

There were photos, and the fact that she hired the stripper really makes the point moot on weather or not she watched.
oh yeah, i forgot about the pics :p

and no, hiring a stripper is one thing, just as long as she leaves them all to it, it ain't that embarassing, but if she sticks around and watches with her camera, taking pics it would be the ultimate embarassment

i think that's kind of an awesome thing for a mum to do, although it probably wasn't the best idea with other people's kids there unless she'd told other parents
I agree with you, and hadn't really thought about the other minors who were there.

I may be a bit older, but this may be the irst 17th birthday party I've looked forward to for YEARS! Can I come?

Do you suppose mom also provided $1's?

The mother hired a stripper for her son's birthday?!

She should be jailed. Jesus.

Everyone knows it's the father's job to get the stripper for the son. :D

So what's next, hire a prostitute for him on his 18th?

Why not, I wouldn't mind :cool: my mum would never do that though...

Pfff. Nope! I've never even had a birthday party, so...
[ Throws Potaria a wild birthday party with male strippers, and female strippers for the male guests, lots of beer, and funny hats ] :D

did she stick around and watch?!
SHE TOOK PICTURES OF IT

cant you just see her pride over her son's "reaction" to the nekkid lady???

Everyone knows it's the father's job to get the stripper for the son. :D

LOL!

SHE TOOK PICTURES OF IT

cant you just see her pride over her son's "reaction" to the nekkid lady???

The ones to show his potential girlfriends? :)

I suppose you are one of those people who say"if you can´t beat them,join them",and think that since porn and or sexism is unavoidable,bring it on,homemade style.A questionable choice,but what really bothers me is society´s attitude,they download porn in order to masturbate at the age of 13 yet a stripper is a no-no? They steal dad´s magazines,have sex by the age of 15 and people are wasting good tax payer´s money to rattle on you and call the cops?They have lost more than a costumer over there! Try a digicam, Mrs. Jackson, I am for real. :mad:

SHE TOOK PICTURES OF IT

cant you just see her pride over her son's "reaction" to the nekkid lady???
maybe his friends were taking the pictures

honestly arent there just SOME things you dont want your mom around for??

and isnt your first "lap dance" one of them???


ok, that's just creepy.

You make a strong point. I might add, I don't think there is ANY lap dance you wan't mom being there for. First, last, 38th or any inbetween.

[ Throws Potaria a wild birthday party with male strippers, and female strippers for the male guests, lots of beer, and funny hats ] :D

Hahahahahaha. A male stripper for me? Dude, I don't "swing" that way.

Hahahahahaha. A male stripper for me? Dude, I don't "swing" that way.
oops... err... the fluffle was a totally comfortable, manly-slap-on-the-back, not-gay-in-any-way-shape-or-form, male bonding thing.

oops... err... the fluffle was a totally comfortable, manly-slap-on-the-back, not-gay-in-any-way-shape-or-form, male bonding thing.

*points and laughs*

And it wouldn't be any different if I had a pic uploaded on NS! You'd still be confused!

That is one hell of a cool mum.

*points and laughs*

And it wouldn't be any different if I had a pic uploaded on NS! You'd still be confused!
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why?
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Anything to do with the name 'Pat'?

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why?
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Anything to do with the name 'Pat'?

Look at my profile, and make your own decision.

There were photos, and the fact that she hired the stripper really makes the point moot on weather or not she watched.

What is morally wrong with it though ?
If his father would have taken him to a stripclub, there would probably have been very little outrage. In fact, many would call him a cool dad. Now that his mother has done the same, people think it is wrong.
Most people are still stuck in old fashioned stereotype rolpatterns it seems...

That said, law is law - even if one does not agree with it. And if the law says he was too young, she was in the wrong. And, as pointed out, she had no right to decide for the other teenagers present.

society sets age limits on all sorts of activities. she would have gotten into more trouble if she had had a kegger for he 16 year olds bday party.

i dont think she should spend a year in jail for it. but you dont get around the law by bringing illegal activities into the privacy of your home. so she needs a good hard slap on the wrist

besides it probably violates zoning or subdivision rules.

I say the stripper should also be punished. But jail's a bit harsh so I propose that she get's realeased into the supervission of a responsable adult - namely moi....

Surprisingly, I'm with TInk on this one.

As a concept for her OWN child, it's her business. It's when she involved others' children without their parents' knowledge that she crossed the line.

Also, this woman is a complete idiot for developing the pictures at a local drugstore (or whatever) -- how could you not KNOW someone there was going to notice A) nudity and then B) the audience? You take pics like that to a high end developer/camera shop and inform them of the content beforehand to get their take on the issue. Better yet, you buy a digital camera and print them yourself. Lotsa foolproof systems out there expressly for the non computer-savvy user.

Finally, let's look at Mom's age here. 34. With a 16-year-old son. So she was a mom in the 17-19 range. Responsibility isn't her strong suit. Add to that her location -- Tennessee -- and you have a story that surprises me not in the least.

I agree that if the friend parents also ok'ed this, there is nothing wrong with it.

Btw. can any of you 'merikans inform me of the age of concent in the US? (in Denmark it's 15)

The age of sexual consent is one of the rare instances where the 10th Amendment to the Constitution actually applies: it differs from state to state. I believe that some states are as low as 16, most others are 18.

And it's 15 in Denmark 'cause there's not much else to do. (kidding...mostly)

Surprisingly, I'm with TInk on this one.


:eek: ..................wait........why is that surprising? :confused:

:eek: ..................wait........why is that surprising? :confused:

Uh...well, straight from context, it's surprising because I don't find myself agreeing with you much. Nothing heinous.

Uh...well, straight from context, it's surprising because I don't find myself agreeing with you much. Nothing heinous.
oh ok lol, i havn't even noticed before lol

oh ok lol, i havn't even noticed before lol

That's not surprising! You've posted over 11K times to my under 400. Not noticing would hardly be considered a fault on your part, milady. Just because I don't agree doesn't mean I can't be polite.

That's not surprising! You've posted over 11K times to my under 400. Not noticing would hardly be considered a fault on your part, milady. Just because I don't agree doesn't mean I can't be polite.
oh, don't get me wrong, i do notice your posts, i guess i just don't remember the ones where we disagree lol, i tend to do that

I wish my mom did that.

Jeez. Lawmakers need to get a life.

She should get the "Coolest Mom of the Year"-Award!

As she only hired a stripper and not a hooker, I wouldn't see anything wrong with it - if she had only let her perform for her own son... Other people's kids are not within her range of making decisions, that's probably what caused all the trouble.

Yet, some naked skin or a boob has never hurt anyone - that's why I favor nudity over violence when it comes to television and movies ;)

Firstly, were did you get that stat?

Secondly, China is now more capitalist than communist. :p

China's system is worse than communism and capitalism together. E.g. peoples forced to leave their homes because the land is required for some project.

if they think something illegal has been going on then they have every right to notify the authorities! what if someone sent in some kiddie porn to be developed? would you be against them notifying the authorities then?!

I'm sorry but no they don't. That's being a tattle tail. Being a tattle tale is the most wrong evil and unscruplous thing you can do and if you do it the tacher will make you wear a giant paper tail for the rest of the day.

Tattle Tales in up in the 9th circle of hell along with Judas, Satan, and all the other betrayers.

It is their patriotic duty to report any deviant or counterproductive behavior.

And it is my patriotic duty to critisize every move the government makes

Seriously as long as it doesn't phsically harm anyone I don't see whats so wrong with it. Eh, I guess its just more anti-freedom-of-everything laws the government is making.

While I understand what the mother was trying to do for the son, it doesn't take away from the fact that in most states, it's illegal for a minor to see a professional stripper. That's why they do ID checks at strip clubs, to enforce the law, this woman circumvented the law and should be punished accordingly.

Ten bucks says she is a Bush fan and this represents one of her so called "moral beliefs."

What right did the drugstore have to notify authorities about that???
Isn't there some confidentiality in volved? Or cn they put all your horrible holiday pictures on display if they want to?

Its fine and perfectly legal, it is illegal for an unwarrented search only if the people on which the search will include object to what is happening. If someone has willingly handed over illegal evidence it is up to their consious whether or not to contact any authority.

Ten bucks says she is a Bush fan and this represents one of her so called "moral beliefs."

Who are you talking about exactly?

She did something illegal, so she should go to jail.

The law is unjust, so it should be repealed.

If the law was repealed, she should serve her sentence still, for breaking the law, but then be given compensation for unjust jail time.

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