NationStates Jolt Archive

Does the decisions you make in NationStates represent your political views or are you just pissing about making the decisions you think could be fun, even though you don't support them IRL.

I myself am just pissing about.

I address the issues the way I think they should be dealt with IRL, which is why I am trying so hard to lower income tax. I have it down by 40%, no mean feat, but I still have 60% to go and I'm also trying to get my frightening economy back, at the moment it's merely 'all-consuming.' Pfft!

Generally speaking, I'm serious and my nation represents what I believe. However, in the case of the many issues that repeat themselves time and time again, I tend to vary my responses just for a bit of variety (unless I really could not stand a particular option), so that may impact on my nation somewhat detrimentally.

I am trying to make the best decisions that I can, seriously, and am quite often annoyed at the limited choices I am given--often resulting in crazy reactions that are just unbelievably extreme. For me, it's more fun if it is serious, but I can see how other people might enjoy just mucking around. I have often wondered how I would go at real politics, but usually conclude that I had best just stick to a simulation like NationStates. At least nobody gets hurt.

well, in general, I do what I think is the right thing. One exception to that would be that I introduced the death penalty in my country, which is something I don't agree with, and would prefer now not to have introduced it. (sorry, I'm not trying to hijack the thread with a discussion on capital punishment!)

Since I have more than one nation I don't know how to answer this.

Yes, my only U.N. nation is based on my true beliefs.

No, the other nations are simply to toy around with. Either religious zealots, brutal 40K-themed SM chapter, noble pirates, or chaos worshippers.

Yes in General I do, especially where Civil Rights are involved....

Living in the UK I feel we try to control everything, way to PC for my liking so I tend to be a little more easy going on certain issues like minorities in soaps, subsidising the Auto industry etc.....

I vote as I personally believe. So far, the result's been a country I'd like to live in.

There are certain issues and effects that I have trouble accepting, like the fact that refusing to allow the death penalty due to a public outburst lowered my Political Freedoms...

Oh yeah.


But only if I'm actually in charge.

Initially I did but now I respond 50% what I think is right and 50% what will improve my nation stats as well. E.g. I feel my government is too big at the moment so for issues I'd usually think the government should have involvment in IRL I am currently steering away from till my stats lower.

I've got 4 nations, the Divine Chaos of Omnibenevolent Discord where I try to give my people as much freedom as possible, with no income tax whatsoever, the Utopic Nightmare of Mysanthropic Euphoria where I focus on civil rights and economic equality, with 100% income tax, the Lifeless Drones of Illuminated Thud, where I focus on big business, and the Tormented Souls of Grey-Faced Death, where I try to be as oppressive and cruel as possible.

I kinda doubt I could achieve something that really represents how I'd structure a nation,

I'm serious. At the moment. But I've got the same ranking for such a long time that I guess I'll start trying to change that. I could try every single style.

In real life issues would have less extreme solutions or more complex answers than the ones given here, so no, I don't follow my true believes in NS.

I'd say I'm 70% serious.

In general, yes. Some of them are really hard to think of as relevent, though. It often seems to come down to choosing the lesser of two evils, like choosing whether I would prefer to be blind or deaf. I end up dismissing a lot of issues that I don't think the government should concern itself with.

Yes and no! This one is just one to fool around with, but my other nation is a bit of a mirror of what I think would be nice.

I do agree, though, that sometimes the answers are very extreme - especially in their outcome! I would like to have the option of more balanced options. I'm bit confused about the effects on political freedom (which is below average), but at least my civil rights are superb :) I also seem to have a huge government, which I would hope would be leaner IRL.

In general, yes. Some of them are really hard to think of as relevent, though. It often seems to come down to choosing the lesser of two evils, like choosing whether I would prefer to be blind or deaf. I end up dismissing a lot of issues that I don't think the government should concern itself with.

Excellent point. If I were serious, I think I would dismiss quite a lot of issues as well

Yep, I do enact my views in my main NationState, and it's working pretty well so far. I really like my country, even though crime went up recently and the government is a little too large. But it's pretty much an exact picture of what my ideal government would be.

Of course, NationStates isn't like running a real government. The most trying is that you don't have the initiative. You can't say "Do this" but you have to pick from alternatives. You have to play within the game's frame, analyzing what effect a certain answer will have on your country's profile rather than what the outcome would be on a real population.

I have two toy nations, Paratonia and Beyond the Grave, that I use just for fun.

It's a lot easier to argue about something if you are arguing for what you belive in.

I'm being a bit more left-wing than I normally would be about issues in real life, some might even say socialist. (gasp!) Now if I could only somehow crack down on my crippling crime problem. :(

Now if I could only somehow crack down on my crippling crime problem. :(

Don't worry. You can take care of it and still remain socially liberal. NationStates makes a big deal of crime prevention through education, so you have a good chance of getting rid of crime.

If you move to the region Poland then yes they take this game VERY Seriously so the serious part of the game is 50 50.

Here's a good example of the difference between how I run my NationState and how I'd run a country:

I've just been asked to rip out some forests and drill for oil. Now in the real world, oil reserves are obviously a big thing, they grant you a lot of money at home and power on the world stage, so if they found oil in my backyard I'd say fuck the forests and drill right away. Just look at what Chavez is doing thanks to the Venezuelan oil. But in NationStates there are no foreign relations to speak of so all it'd do would be to make that my national animal, instead of frolicing in my nation's many lush forests, would start going extinct because of widespread deforestation, so I said don't pump the oil.

of course i go with my core belief, they are my PEOPLE! i cant do them wrong!

thats why i dismiss most issues; i dont believe that the gov't has any business getting that far into people's lives.

Does the decisions you make in NationStates represent your political views or are you just pissing about making the decisions you think could be fun, even though you don't support them IRL.
Mine are ( largely ) based on what I believe would be best for people.

I suspect that for most folks hey do what they think is right for their firt nation, then play again just whhoping the hell out of their poorbastard citizens.

I am currently in phase 2.

Absolutely not for this nation. Actually, I answer most of the issues just the way I wouldn't in real life.
My other nation is ruled the way I would. Nice to compare. Seems to me, the parser is slightly biased towards manchesterism. :(

Most of my decisions actually reflect my beliefs.

Looking at my country isn't a good indicator of my beliefs, though, because some of the decisions I made had some unintended results.

I'm actually a tad bit more conservative than you might think from looking at my country.

very much so, yes. i did have my nation just the way i wanted it a couple of months back, but then it changed for the worse :(
so now i neglect it like some kind of mouldy old cheese stuck at the back of the fridge ;)

vaguely.

Im trying to do it based on what i would do in real life...But due to some of the answers being vague,misleading,insane,or sometimes just downright dumb lol,i tend to dismiss alot of issues...only because there are so few issues that actually have MY answer,most of the issues have one that either gives you money and hurts the other two,or helps civil rights or political freedom and KILLS your economy....But as long as the fluffy white siberian tiger is free to frolic its all good!

P.S. i might make another nation soon to be "Evil"....Muahahahaha

While many of my decisions are not based on my own personal core beliefs, They are the decisions I would make if I was actually running a real government in which real people's lives were being influenced/determined. All my decisions on NS are made according to what I believe will be for the good of the people, or the most good to the most people. Though I currently have a dictatorship, I have been swaying back and forth from a Father Knows Best state. I decide what's best for the people in general, and I would do the same were I actually a ruler, but in my own life, I may not believe in some of the options I choose.

:mp5: This is a game I try to make the right decisions but alot of the time I'm just goofing around, whats with you guys :confused:

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My nation is an extremist version of my view.

Does the decisions you make in NationStates represent your political views or are you just pissing about making the decisions you think could be fun, even though you don't support them IRL.

I myself am just pissing about.

I run my nation opposite to my core beliefs...

My people are a sufferin' :D

The answers I give are the closest to what I want, but the results are not.

One recent issue asked if I wanted to put fluoride in the drinking water. Since fluoride is poisonous, I chose not to do it. The result was the public health bureaucracy being buried in miles of red tape.

Another asked what to do if some politician got caught in a sex scandal. The choices were to remove the politician, imprison the investigative reporter, or ignore them both and cut taxes. I chose to cut taxes. The result was political freedom dropping to zero. The result of my choice on the issue that came the next day was that fewer political prisoners were being executed, even though that number was zero to begin with.

More or less...yes. Texpunditistan is my libertarian side working. Ratbastardia is me playing benevolent dictator. :D

No, are YOU serious? "Does the..."

Does? Read what your first sentance sounds like, than I will possibly think of considering an answer to your question.

Does the decisions you make in NationStates represent your political views or are you just pissing about making the decisions you think could be fun, even though you don't support them IRL.

I myself am just pissing about.
I tend to debate using my RL beliefs. Sometimes I disagree with everyone, not to be a jerk but because their lack of punctuation annoys me. :p

Me actually, yes.

I really do believe anti-monopoly laws should be abolished, militaries shouldn't be directly involved in foreign conflicts, street racing should be allowed, and that the betterment of world economies are more important than the environment.

No seriously, I do.

largely i goof off, but in the cases of overdramatic young men who think they're completely irresistible demanding baronies and earldoms... let's just say my civil rights probably took a hit on that one lol

For my main nation, the Plutonian Empire, yes, i'm deadly serious, and try to have it reflect my values as accurately as possible. But with my puppets, i usually just mess around.

I tend to vote my beliefs-which means I "Dismiss" a lot of issues since I consider 'em to be no business of government.

No, are YOU serious? "Does the..."

Does? Read what your first sentance sounds like, than I will possibly think of considering an answer to your question.


Isn't it a bit petty to be peeved by bad grammar? I'm not a native english speaker and so am bound to make mistakes, if that is offencive to you, then you have my deepest sympathy.

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Yes and No. I have an agenda, but it isn't tied to my political ideals. It does reflect my general belief of Absurdism though. Poltics has less to do with reallity than whatever agenda is popular at the time. The policies of one gov't are regularily rendered null by the gov't that comes after it, so I pick an agenda to follow every few weeks, in an attempt to create a nation as screwed up as a real one. Right now I'm a Left-Leaning College State, but I hope to soon be some kind of milatocracy(sp?). Everyone is waiting for Godot to come along and save the country from the mess its in, but Godot, as you all know, never shows up. I think the culture we have in North America is the most preposterous one in history. I mean c'mon, if an alien could secretly observe such things as shopping malls and major league sports, SUVS, Fundamentalism of any creed, people killing eachother for little bits of green paper and what some book says, etc, they'd take 5 minutes to conclude "These people are INSANE" and get fuck out as fast as possible.

Wad I du (every 2 or 3 days spending 20 minutes):

1) Log on

2) Read my doo-hickey summary dinger

3) Click issues and choose a side; most of the time I dismiss since i think gov't shouldn't get involved and I like low taxes.

4) Click world and find some whacked out country I think is cool and telegram it.

5) Click forums and put my 2 cents in.

6) Log out