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10 Reasons NOT To Kill President Bush.

Texpunditistan
30-05-2005, 06:55
I was absoulutely amazed at how well thought out this article is. Even though I would probably disagree ideologically with the author, her points and conclusions are spot-on. It's truly inspiring to see people that have the capacity for rational thought, no matter their ideology. :) COLUMN: 10 reasons not to kill Bush

By Jennifer McBride
Oregon Daily Emerald (U. Oregon)
05/25/2005

(U-WIRE) EUGENE, Ore. -- Recently in Georgia, the president gave a speech only to have someone chuck a hand grenade at him. Lucky for all, the blast cap did not explode. Though originally thought to be a dud, the FBI later revealed the weapon was far from safe.

I can't possibly guess the assassin's reasoning, but I've heard enough people on campus proclaiming their hatred of George W. Bush to know that some wouldn't have shed many tears. And that's a shame.

If the assassin were looking for a way to hurt America, blowing up the president would be a good idea. Bush's martyrdom would put the last nail in the coffin of the liberal agenda. So, for those Bush-haters out there, here are 10 reasons you should stop praying for an assassinated G.W.B.:

1) Killing the president immediately generates sympathy for his cause. If the president died tomorrow, there would be no question that all of his nominees for the judicial branch would make it through the Senate.

2) A dead President Bush leaves a live Dick Cheney in charge. Need I say more?

3) The Pakistani political situation is drastically fragile. Should President Bush die, Musharraf's brutal, mostly secular dictatorship probably will be replaced by a brutal, religiously fundamental dictatorship, reducing the United States' chances of bringing in Osama bin Laden to nil.

4) Any criticisms of the administration will be regarded as more unpatriotic than ever. In the next election, you could expect to see Democratic primary candidates proclaiming that their Republican counterparts aren't "fit to follow in President Bush's footsteps."

5) Killing President Bush could spur another spate of international invasions, with or without U.N. approval. The U.S. military cannot deal with invading another country without further hollowing our ability to defend ourselves and respond to threats from other countries, such as a nuclear North Korea.

6) The news cycle would be justly co-opted. With the media so focused on one story, there wouldn't be time to examine important issues such as the government suppression in Uzbekistan or Egyptian election tampering. In fact, all foreign news that didn't directly affect the assassination would probably grind to a halt.

7) President Bush's status as a martyr would leave the electorate more polarized than ever, especially if liberals were seen as publicly irreverent to President Bush's memory. It would be a little different if natural selection decreed death-by-snacking, but toasting an assassin's success leaves a decidedly bitter taste in the national mouth.

8) Jeb Bush's popularity would skyrocket. He would undoubtedly win the Republican nomination and then the election in 2008. With the Supreme Court full of near-zombies, I would prefer a different man to pick the people who are going to strangle us with laws.

9) Killing George Bush won't end any of the policies people disagree with. An assassination would merely strengthen our resolve to stay the course in Iraq, keep troops in Saudi Arabia, support our Israeli allies, etc. Policies don't die just because the president does.

10) Slaying President Bush is simply immoral. Anyone who advocates purposefully killing someone defenseless (and a democratically elected leader, no less) is clearly value-challenged. I don't understand the logical contortions some people must go through to be anti-death penalty yet pro-assassination.

In all seriousness, I don't hate President Bush. I dislike a lot of his administration's choices, but I think he's a good man doing a difficult job. As a leader, you're always going to be hated. I am too often shocked by the vitriolic repulsion many people feel for our leader and America in general, especially because the loathing is often poorly informed. I've met people on this campus who see America as the worst human rights abuser in the world (unlike the angelic paradise of Cambodia) and people who sway liberal not because they actually know anything about issues but because it's popular.

Liberalism has to be more than a college fad or a collection of loudmouths whose idiotic comments stir headlines. The rabid dislike some people feel for a man they've never even met makes me ashamed to be a Democrat.Also, the author's conclusions about the abject and irrational hate shown toward Bush reminds me of reading the absolute vitriol posted all over the internet when Reagan died. I found comments ranging from "who cares?" to "that's what the son-of-a-bitch gets...and I'm glad he suffered from Alzheimer's, too".

I, personally, did not rejoice when Bill Clinton had a heart attack, and would have been sad if he had died. I disagreed with most of his policies and think he was a lousy President, but I do not *hate* the man. I think Jimmy Carter was probably the worst President in the history of this country and I also think that he continues to do stupid and counterproductive things toward this country to this very day...but I do not hate the man.

Bah. Enough of my rambling. Read the article and discuss. :)
Bitchkitten
30-05-2005, 06:57
Number two is the first one I thought of.
Eek!
Texpunditistan
30-05-2005, 07:02
Number two is the first one I thought of.
Eek!
I dunno...I think it'd be rather amusing to see Darth Cheney as President. ;)

*sits back and waits for idiots to take that statement seriously*
Evinsia
30-05-2005, 07:04
Number 2 was what I, too, thought of when I saw the title of this thing. I'll also take the liberty of adding a number 11.

Dubya is like the cheese on a giant mousetrap. If the mouse, or the non-Bush-liking-dudes go to eat the cheese, or to kill the president, the snappy thingie on the trap, represented by the majority of Bush supporters who own weapons and know how to use them and their friends who are unarmed but borrowed a weapon from their armed friends would come down and kill the mouse.
DemonLordEnigma
30-05-2005, 07:09
Let's congratulate the author of that essay for being stupid enough to give ten reasons why certain people should kill Bush. All it takes is one idiot who hates the US and wants to see it slowly destroyed from the inside out to read that article and Bush will be the prime target.

If Bush does get assassinated, blame Jennifer McBride.
Bitchkitten
30-05-2005, 07:13
Let's congratulate the author of that essay for being stupid enough to give ten reasons why certain people should kill Bush. All it takes is one idiot who hates the US and wants to see it slowly destroyed from the inside out to read that article and Bush will be the prime target.

If Bush does get assassinated, blame Jennifer McBride.

Whatever. :rolleyes:
DemonLordEnigma
30-05-2005, 07:21
Whatever. :rolleyes:

Try using logic about it. Bush gets assassinated, what do we have? Internal turmoil, a military spread out thin, policies that make other nations hate us, several setbacks on dealing with certain nations that further tarnish our image, a nation divided between two sides just because of image, and policies that are hailed as taking the Constitution and repealing it becomming potentially permanent. The United States ends up in a situation where it is even less able to deal with potential threats due to the additional problems that are on top of the ones we currently have, potentially making it an open target for those who wish to do extreme damage from the inside.
Thuusland
30-05-2005, 07:31
Being in Australia, i would love to see Bush "removed :sniper: " from the presidentcy. He has way too much of an influence on Johnny Howard for my liking. Sure it would put the world into turmoil, but that is a GOOD thing. Humanity thrives in chaos.

And i agree entiarly with number two. That would be a scary propersition.
Bitchkitten
30-05-2005, 07:35
snip.
I was mainly refering to blaming Jennifer whatever for his assasination.
Though him accidently choking on a pretzel sounds appealling.
Evinsia
30-05-2005, 07:35
Try using logic about it. Bush gets assassinated, what do we have? Internal turmoil, a military spread out thin, policies that make other nations hate us, several setbacks on dealing with certain nations that further tarnish our image, a nation divided between two sides just because of image, and policies that are hailed as taking the Constitution and repealing it becomming potentially permanent. The United States ends up in a situation where it is even less able to deal with potential threats due to the additional problems that are on top of the ones we currently have, potentially making it an open target for those who wish to do extreme damage from the inside.
Scary. Do extreme damage from the inside: the agendas of PETA, Greenpeace, ALF, and ELF in a nutshell.

And, in reality, #2 would rock. Dick Cheney's my homeboy. :D
DemonLordEnigma
30-05-2005, 07:43
I was mainly refering to blaming Jennifer whatever for his assasination.
Though him accidently choking on a pretzel sounds appealling.

What McBride did was take the reasons, consolidate them, and put them in a format that is easy to understand while allowing for a massive amount of damage to be interpreted by those who read it. By doing so, the reason why to the people who would are sitting there in black and white and have already effectively laid out a plan of action for what happens afterwards and given them a list of advantages and opportunities. It's like trying to tell a child not to enter a candy store by telling him about all of the candies inside.
Texpunditistan
30-05-2005, 07:46
It's like trying to tell a child not to enter a candy store by telling him about all of the candies inside.
Kind of like sex education for elementary schoolers, eh? ;)

/me runs.
Waywyrd
30-05-2005, 07:57
Let's congratulate the author of that essay for being stupid enough to give ten reasons why certain people should kill Bush. All it takes is one idiot who hates the US and wants to see it slowly destroyed from the inside out to read that article and Bush will be the prime target.

If Bush does get assassinated, blame Jennifer McBride.

Excuse me, but if someone who hates America gets the idea to assassinate Bush, they probably know this already. Come on, you don't have to be a genious to figure this out.
Crowlea
30-05-2005, 08:00
It's like trying to tell a child not to enter a candy store by telling him about all of the candies inside.

Yes, but, to purloin your parlance, the child already knows of the candy in the candy store. Any froth-mouthed retard with an anti-American agenda has already realized that Bush would be made a martyr if you killed him, and by making him a martyr, things would be pretty craptacular overall. It's simple cause and effect. It's not like would-be assassins are a bunch of senseless, primitive screw-heads.

Everyone knows this stuff; that chick who wrote the article was just making a good point.
New Exodus
30-05-2005, 08:04
Quite a well thought-out piece, and always a pleasure to know that people can keep perspective in spite of their political views. I hope to see more people like Ms. McBride.
Imperial Dark Rome
30-05-2005, 08:13
Another reason not to assassinate G. Bush: Me.

I won't let you. Though it would be great if Dick Cheney became the president, but I will never let a assassination happen by some idiotic extreme left-winger! If it did happened, I would hunt down the assassin, lock him in my basement and torture him for life.

~Satanic Reverend Medivh~
Texpunditistan
30-05-2005, 08:16
Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: +9.94
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: +10.00
Political Map
PERSONAL issues Score is 0%.
ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.
Right (Conservative) Republican 100.00%
Moral Politics
Moral Order Axis: +8.0
Moral Rules Axis: -7.5
Political Power Chart
Power-87.5%
Centralization-85%
Social-90%
Economy-27.5%
Completely OT, but where the hell are the links to all these tests? I know where to find the Political Compass test (which was WAY off on my results), but where are the rest?
Vandross
30-05-2005, 08:23
Internal turmoil, a military spread out thin, policies that make other nations hate us, several setbacks on dealing with certain nations that further tarnish our image, a nation divided between two sides just because of image, and policies that are hailed as taking the Constitution and repealing it becomming potentially permanent.

Gee, you just described America RIGHT NOW...
Quiltlifter
30-05-2005, 08:26
You can just as well claim that Bush Jr. and Osama Bin Laden are allied. Osama made his speech to the American people prior to the 2004 election to make the 'enemy' stay in power. They both thrive with enemies.
Vandross
30-05-2005, 08:29
Another reason not to assassinate G. Bush: Me.

I won't let you. Though it would be great if Dick Cheney became the president, but I will never let a assassination happen by some idiotic extreme left-winger! If it did happened, I would hunt down the assassin, lock him in my basement and torture him for life.

Of course someone with the name Imperial Dark Rome would be a Bush fan. You obviously root for the bad guy to win. Dick Cheney becoming President would be the closest to Satan running the country that you could get. Now turn off the cd player and go to bed, you've got school in the morning.
Vandross
30-05-2005, 08:33
Sure it would put the world into turmoil, but that is a GOOD thing. Humanity thrives in chaos.

I'm all for getting Bush out of office, but not through assassination. I don't see how placing the world in turmoil would be a good thing. I can't understand Anarchists. You want to see millions of people die so that you can be entertained.

How about we change the existing framework from within. You don't have to tear down a house to give it a makeover. That's just our "little kid" impulse to 'make things go boom' talking. For a child, the only thing more gratifying that building something is destroying it.
The Downmarching Void
30-05-2005, 08:33
Whoa, I thought I heard the sonic boom of a jet passing very low overhead, but it was just the sound of the air whooshing by as the entire point of the article went over DemonLordEnigma's head.

The point of the article is why NOT to assassinate Bush. Go see an optometrist dude. :rolleyes:
The Defenders
30-05-2005, 08:34
I think this post has some good meaning to it, don't get me wrong I hate bush with a passion what hes gunna do to my generation... and why he went into a country that didnt even attack us in the first place (in other words someone shoots at you and you decided to shoot someone else who might have a gun but it wasnt the one that attacked you) I just hate him... thought of how good it would be if he was killed off but those are the reason I hope he stays in office.

Id rather have him screw america over sooooo bad that it takes years for us to recover. Sure some will still say stubornly it was Clinton after math not bush but whatever, there arnt many problems that arnt caused by people in this world so why should they be all that brilliant anyway...

nice post though
Imperial Dark Rome
30-05-2005, 08:44
Completely OT, but where the hell are the links to all these tests? I know where to find the Political Compass test (which was WAY off on my results), but where are the rest?

Here's the links...
______________________________________________________
Political Compass:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/index.php
_______________________________________________________
Political Map aka "World's Smallest Political Test":
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
________________________________________________________
Moral Politics:
http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home&action=Test&choice=Long
_________________________________________________________
Political Power Chart:
This test was done by some NS'er here, I forgot the name though...
__________________________________________________________
The OkCupid Politics Test: Here's another political test I just found. It's similar to the "Political Compass" test, but it's a bit strange that they put Republican politcal beliefs on the left side and Democrat politcal beliefs on the right side. Anyway here's a link to that...
http://www.okcupid.com/politics

Here are my results from that test...

You are a
Social Conservative
(5% Socially Permissive)
and an...
Economic Conservative (95% Economically Permissive)
You are best described as a:Fascist
____________________________________________________________
Have fun with those...

~Satanic Reverend Medivh~
Greater Yubari
30-05-2005, 08:47
The Reason #1: imagine the idiot you'd get with Bush gone, and don't say it can't get worse... It surely can (take Kerry for example).