NationStates Jolt Archive


Google Is Invading Your Privacy !

Willink
29-05-2005, 03:48
You can find any published phone number on google, to do this you must type in area code, along with number, like this: 585 271-4571
and it will come up with owners/ who lives there, and a map of the town/ city, showing location and mapquest directions to there. This only works with published phone numbers. go try it out. I did my friends adress, and it worked. This is an invasion of peoples privacy.
Whispering Legs
29-05-2005, 03:50
There are better sites, and better sources.

If you live in the US, I can find you.

If you claim to be in the military, I can find out in 24 hours whether you were or not, and if you were, I can get a copy of your DD214.

All using public, published, legal information and channels.
New Genoa
29-05-2005, 03:51
You can find any published phone number on google, to do this you must type in area code, along with number, like this: 585 271-4571
and it will come up with owners/ who lives there, and a map of the town/ city, showing location and mapquest directions to there. This only works with published phone numbers. go try it out. I did my friends adress, and it worked. This is an invasion of peoples privacy.

If your number isn't listed in the phone book, I don't think it works. I m not sure though, but I was alarmed when I saw that too.
Tuesday Heights
29-05-2005, 03:53
Whenever I get a call that I don't recognize on my caller ID, I pop the number in Google real quick to see if I can find out who is calling.
Fass
29-05-2005, 03:56
Umm, this has been around for ages. In Sweden it's done by www.eniro.se

It's no more violating of your privacy than a phonebook. If you don't want to be in there, get an unlisted number.
Whispering Legs
29-05-2005, 03:56
It's especially easy for me to confirm service in the Army.
Ashmoria
29-05-2005, 04:04
now that was funny
i put in my phone number and not only did my and my husbands name and address come up, (not that youll find us even if you try)

but a THAI page came up with the husbands bio on it.

i dont read thai so i can only guess its "his" former distributor there.
CSW
29-05-2005, 04:13
You can find any published phone number on google, to do this you must type in area code, along with number, like this: 585 271-4571
and it will come up with owners/ who lives there, and a map of the town/ city, showing location and mapquest directions to there. This only works with published phone numbers. go try it out. I did my friends adress, and it worked. This is an invasion of peoples privacy.
It's called a phonebook...
Flesh Eatin Zombies
29-05-2005, 04:17
You can find any published phone number on google, to do this you must type in area code, along with number, like this: 585 271-4571
and it will come up with owners/ who lives there, and a map of the town/ city, showing location and mapquest directions to there. This only works with published phone numbers. go try it out. I did my friends adress, and it worked. This is an invasion of peoples privacy.

How's that any different from just having your number listed in the phone book?
Consilient Entities
29-05-2005, 04:17
it's just a reverse lookup... handly thing indeed.

But yet another chink in the armor of decent, hard-working prank callers. ;)
Whispering Legs
29-05-2005, 04:18
There are people who mistakenly believe that privacy is somehow guaranteed, or that public information is not available, or as Keruvalia posted on another thread, that private investigation is somehow illegal.

Anything available in a public database is just that - public information - and is NOT illegal to access.

By merely posting on the Internet on a forum, you give public access to the postings you write - anyone can read, collect, and collate them into a coherent bundle - then proceed to associate your public IP address with a physical address and collect any and all public information outwards from there.

If they were collecting private information, or information on your own machine that you have a right to assume is yours alone, that would be illegal.

But everything in public is just that - in public. In public.

You fill out a magazine subscription, and your information goes to a lot of people - it's published, shared, downloaded - and everything is legal.

If you don't want to be seen, disconnect from the Internet, disconnect your phone, cancel all subscriptions, orders, etc., go to the government opt-out lists for telemarketers, etc. Even then, some of you will still be in public.
Omz222
29-05-2005, 04:20
Oh please. Depending on how you classify "privacy", probably the white page you find in a regular neighbourhood, or even one's knowledge about someone else's residence and phone number, is also a direct invasion of one's privacy.
Whispering Legs
29-05-2005, 04:21
Oh please. Depending on how you classify "privacy", probably the white page you find in a regular neighbourhood, or even one's knowledge about someone else's residence and phone number, is also a direct invasion of one's privacy.
My point is that it is not an invasion of privacy.
Whittier-
29-05-2005, 04:22
There are better sites, and better sources.

If you live in the US, I can find you.

If you claim to be in the military, I can find out in 24 hours whether you were or not, and if you were, I can get a copy of your DD214.

All using public, published, legal information and channels.
prove it
Omz222
29-05-2005, 04:25
My point is that it is not an invasion of privacy.
I don't recall that I was replying to your comment. However, I'd agree with your statement quoted above, and I was implying that there are still things much more serious to think about aside from something as small as finding something that is already available in the public, no matter how visible it is to the public.
Whispering Legs
29-05-2005, 04:26
prove it

All I need is your real name and claimed branch of service.

There's another poster here on NS who said he was a Ranger - and he most certainly is not. Shall we find out if you're really at Ft. Huachuca?
Kervoskia
29-05-2005, 04:26
It's all part of the conspiracy, man! The Free Masons, THEY know all.
Willink
29-05-2005, 04:26
It's all part of the conspiracy, man! The Free Masons, THEY know all.


Lol
Whittier-
29-05-2005, 04:26
Oh please. Depending on how you classify "privacy", probably the white page you find in a regular neighbourhood, or even one's knowledge about someone else's residence and phone number, is also a direct invasion of one's privacy.
its invasion of privacy if the person did not consent to their number being in there. The phone company uses something called de facto consent so that your number is only left out if you object to it being there.
Whispering Legs
29-05-2005, 04:27
It's all part of the conspiracy, man! The Free Masons, THEY know all.
I thought it was the men in the black helicopters...
Kervoskia
29-05-2005, 04:28
I thought it was the men in the black helicopters...
No, no that's the Jewish media conspiracy.
Whittier-
29-05-2005, 04:29
All I need is your real name and claimed branch of service.

There's another poster here on NS who said he was a Ranger - and he most certainly is not. Shall we find out if you're really at Ft. Huachuca?
Are you in the army or something?
Whispering Legs
29-05-2005, 04:29
Are you in the army or something?
Used to be. But I'm a contractor at ARPERCEN.
Omz222
29-05-2005, 04:30
its invasion of privacy if the person did not consent to their number being in there. The phone company uses something called de facto consent so that your number is only left out if you object to it being there.
I don't see how it is when in actuality, the information are all there for the public to see, regardless of its visibility to the public (i.e. whether many knows about a specific way to get information about someone or not, legally). It's not an invasion of privacy if the said information is also in the public and can be obtained legally. It's like saying that telling people about NationStates is an invasion of Max Barry's privacy, because that Max Barry doesn't know the action and the words of every NSer in existance. Get why it can be so ridiculous?
Tuesday Heights
29-05-2005, 04:30
The phone company uses something called de facto consent so that your number is only left out if you object to it being there.

That varies by state. Most states in the US, however, do not give credence to "de facto consent." My telephone number, for instance, is not listed, and I never said one way or another whether I wanted it to be or not. I guarantee that nobody on here, other than asking for my number, could find it easily.
The Cat-Tribe
29-05-2005, 04:32
No, no that's the Jewish media conspiracy.

in cahoots with the Lesbian Dentist Cartel. Click (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8855091&postcount=24) :eek:
Whittier-
29-05-2005, 04:36
Used to be. But I'm a contractor at ARPERCEN.
you have telegram
Whittier-
29-05-2005, 04:37
I don't see how it is when in actuality, the information are all there for the public to see, regardless of its visibility to the public (i.e. whether many knows about a specific way to get information about someone or not, legally). It's not an invasion of privacy if the said information is also in the public and can be obtained legally. It's like saying that telling people about NationStates is an invasion of Max Barry's privacy, because that Max Barry doesn't know the action and the words of every NSer in existance. Get why it can be so ridiculous?
when people opt for their numbers to be private and they get published anyway, it is invasion of privacy
Tuesday Heights
29-05-2005, 04:37
when people opt for their numbers to be private and they get published anyway, it is invasion of privacy

This is very true. If you specifically tell your telephone company and inquiries that you do not want your number listed, any listing of the number is illegal.
Whittier-
29-05-2005, 04:40
Ah hah. You can get the info if you pay a fee. So you still have to go through.

I think there is supposed to be a law against selling people's personal information.
New Fuglies
29-05-2005, 05:42
My number is listed and it doesn't work... :(
Khudros
29-05-2005, 07:05
The only two legally protected pieces of information in America are your medical records and your movie rental history. Everything else is fair game.
If you don't like it, call your local congressman. Complaining about it in a British forum really won't accomplish much.
Whittier-
29-05-2005, 07:22
The only two legally protected pieces of information in America are your medical records and your movie rental history. Everything else is fair game.
If you don't like it, call your local congressman. Complaining about it in a British forum really won't accomplish much.
I suppose you are going to call for closingthis cause you dont think it serves a purpose?
Sabbatis
29-05-2005, 16:25
Here's one lady that's really pissed about the privacy issue:

http://www.opcva.com/watchdog/

There are a few interesting things if you have the time to read.