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May 28th, 2005. The capital building was a veritable battlefield today, as Republicans and democrats heatedly debated over a recent Bill with the full backing of the executive Branch.

The Bill, proposed by Senate majority leader Tom Delay, would fund a defense project known as the Death Star. It would provide $600,000,000 for the construction of a battle station the size of a small moon with the capability to destroy an entire planet.

"In order to combat the threat of Nuclear terrorism it is necessary to have a deterrent such as the Death Star," Delay said at a press conference at noon.

Liberal democrats, who threaten to filibuster the bill, call the project "absurd", believing it will only alienate American allies and weaken the war on terrorism.

"Republican deficit spending hasn't gotten us anywhere in the past, and spending that amount of money on this space station is just totally insane," commented the loser of the recent 2004 election, John Kerry. Ironically enough, Kerry voted for authorization of a "Grand Army of the Republic" to keep occupied countries like Iraq or Afghanistan in line.

Military officials worry whether or not the project can be easily targeted and destroyed by terrorist agents. The station at its size, roughly the size of Pluto, has been dubbed invincible by most leading scientists, save one.

"There is a small, two meter exhaust port in the station equatorial trench. If a one manned fighter fired a torpedo into it, or crashed into it, the station would self destruct," commented Professor Reed of MIT.

Speaking to troops today aboard the destroyer the USS Executor, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumself expressed the President's feelings on the new project and made some rather criticizing remarks about members of Congress who did not support the new project. "I find their lack of faith disturbing."

"Obviously the Democrats are more concerned about the halls of Europe than the defense of our great country," commented Congressman Darth Menacing, (R-AL).

There is concern about reports from more zealous side Christian right, who hope that in coordination with the Israeli Mossad they can achieve their ultimate goal: The demolition of Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem.

Various left wing organizations have decried the project have urged Americans to write to their Congressmen. Unfortunately, the Democratic party is split on the issue. Senator Zell Miller of Georgia, renowned for being a traitor to his party, actually brought some members of the Senate to his side on the subject.

A white house official who wished to remain anonymous commented. "At last! The Jedi will be defeated and we will finally have revenge! The Sith shall triumph, and with the Death Star we will herald the creation of a new Empire!"

I don't know what to think.

...wow. Is this, like, supposed to be a parody of a genuine press release from today or something? If so, can we see the original, that we may realise the irony and chortle accordingly? Or is it just an attack on the Bush Administration which doesn't even really have much weight behind it?

LOL

I find their lack of faith disturbing.

LOL

*yawn*

Is anyone else tired of Star Wars already? George Lucas can neither write nor direct.

*yawn*

Is anyone else tired of Star Wars already? George Lucas can neither write nor direct.

Seconded.

...wow. Is this, like, supposed to be a parody of a genuine press release from today or something? If so, can we see the original, that we may realise the irony and chortle accordingly? Or is it just an attack on the Bush Administration which doesn't even really have much weight behind it?

Oh come on. It's mindless political humor. It's not an attack on anyone. Just comedy.

Jeez...so sensitive.

"a battle station the size of a small moon with the capability to destroy an entire planet."


Umm aren’t we on the same planet as all of our enemies? It may not be a good idea to blow it up!

Jeez...so sensitive.

*raised eyebrow* Are you, in that, implying I'm a supporter of the Bush Administration? Wow.

*yawn*

Is anyone else tired of Star Wars already? George Lucas can neither write nor direct.

And how many blockbuster movies have you made?

Ive noticed a trend: the further right the republicans move, the dumber they get.

End of story.

Umm aren’t we on the same planet as all of our enemies? It may not be a good idea to blow it up!

Paraphrasing some conservative nut-job, "sometimes you just have to blow up the planet to save it."

And how many blockbuster movies have you made?

None, because I know that I can neither write nor direct. Now, if only we could make George Lucas see that he can't either, we'd be set.

And how many blockbuster movies have you made?

Probably an amount equal to or greater than the amount you've made.

*yawn*

Is anyone else tired of Star Wars already? George Lucas can neither write nor direct.

The only thing I'm already tired of is the constant statement that George Lucas can neither write nor direct.
Star Wars is great and the post is very amusing!

...wow. Is this, like, supposed to be a parody of a genuine press release from today or something? If so, can we see the original, that we may realise the irony and chortle accordingly? Or is it just an attack on the Bush Administration which doesn't even really have much weight behind it?


Please, "Congressman Darth Menacing, (R-AL)." should be the dead give away. Open your eyes son.

None, because I know that I can neither write nor direct. Now, if only we could make George Lucas see that he can't either, we'd be set.


Good answer, but I still disagree with your assessment of Lucas’s talent.

...commented the loser of the recent 2004 election, John Kerry.

I thought the notion of a news report referring to him as that was hilarious.

None, because I know that I can neither write nor direct. Now, if only we could make George Lucas see that he can't either, we'd be set.

So George Lucas's ignorance of his own inability to make a good movie is what gives him the ability to make a blockbuster?

So George Lucas's ignorance of his own inability to make a good movie is what gives him the ability to make a blockbuster?

Then again, what you don't know can't hurt you.

Please, "Congressman Darth Menacing, (R-AL)." should be the dead give away. Open your eyes son.

...not entirely sure what you mean by that, old chap. Wondering to myself if, perhaps, you believe I read it seriously. Please explain?

So George Lucas's ignorance of his own inability to make a good movie is what gives him the ability to make a blockbuster?

Blockbuster != good. Or would you claim "Titanic" (*ugh* *retch*) to be good?

He has money to throw into his movies. The sheeple see the shiny effects and give him more money. Tada!

New Watenho']...not entirely sure what you mean by that, old chap. Wondering to myself if, perhaps, you believe I read it seriously. Please explain?


My bad, rereading you post, I realize that I for some reason didn't read the middle sentence.

Let's make friends :fluffle:


:D

Blockbuster != good. Or would you claim "Titanic" (*ugh* *retch*) to be good?

He has money to throw into his movies. The sheeple see the shiny effects and give him more money. Tada!

The first movie was hardly big budget.

At any rate, millions of people go and enjoy those movies, but I suppose to a sophisticate like yourself, that is an obvious sign of their inferiority. Snobbery is everywhere it seems.

I rather sit through every star wars film ten times again then another minute of a shitty Robert Deniro movie, however.

The first movie was hardly big budget.

But every movie afterwords...

My bad, rereading you post, I realize that I for some reason didn't read the middle sentence.

Let's make friends :fluffle:

:D

Silly person. :fluffle:

May 28th, 2005. The capital building was a veritable battlefield today, as Republicans and democrats heatedly debated over a recent Bill with the full backing of the executive Branch.
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Wow Ball **cking of the executive Branch...

The first movie was hardly big budget.

Which actually forced him to have an actual plot and a story. I wish he'd kept on to that. No, his ability to write and direct seem to have been lost somehere between Star Wars IV and American Graffiti, and yesteryear's and today's wretched sequels. Now money and effects are what make his "movies" what they are, and not the "story telling" he so wishes he could pull off.

At any rate, millions of people go and enjoy those movies,

Yeah, and millions and millions of people buy Ashley Simpson, Céline Dion and Britney Spears records. Doesn't make them good or talented for that!

but I suppose to a sophisticate like yourself, that is an obvious sign of their inferiority. Snobbery is everywhere it seems.

Trust me, you need neither snobbery or sofistication to see that Star Wars I-III were all dreadful pieces of writing, and examples of how not to direct either ones movie or ones actors.

I rather sit through every star wars film ten times again then another minute of a shitty Robert Deniro movie, however.

Robert DeNiro used to be good. Now he's just pissing away his legacy. Like Georgie Lucas.

But every movie afterwords...

True that, but the first one was also the most sucessful. So there has to be more than just "throwing money" at it.

I am not going to say that Star Wars is the pinicle of artistic expression, but on the other hand, this pseudo intellectual "George Lucas is a moron &c." blather from the chattering classes is far, far more annoying and ridiculous. I mean, after all, these are the same people who go to Rene Magritte exhibitions and titter knowingly.

Star Wars movies are harmless fun. Also just because hollywood makes star wars movies, does not prevent other movies from getting made. (It also seems star wars critics have just as shaky a grasp of economics as they do art criticism.)

True that, but the first one was also the most sucessful. So there has to be more than just "throwing money" at it.

True.The first one was so succesful because it was something new. The visuals were groundbreaking for the time. This explains its' sucess. Afterwords, Lucas started the money toss.

It's not the only time this has happened. Remember the Matrix? Bullet time was something new, that's why it was so sucessful. Then they stopped caring about script i.e Matrix 3.

Yeah, and millions and millions of people buy Ashley Simpson, Céline Dion and Britney Spears records. Doesn't make them good or talented for that!

You can really only judge pop-art, by popularity. And at any rate, none of those three enjoy anything like the popularity of Star Wars. The beatles would be a better example.


Trust me, you need neither snobbery or sofistication to see that Star Wars I-III were all dreadful pieces of writing, and examples of how not to direct either ones movie or ones actors.

It helps though. I curious, what do you consider a good movie, or do you just hate the medium in general.


Robert DeNiro used to be good. Now he's just pissing away his legacy. Like Georgie Lucas.


No, he was always bad. Very very bad. The man just can't act.

My God. That Was Awesome!

My God. That Was Awesome!

So you said.

None, because I know that I can neither write nor direct. Now, if only we could make George Lucas see that he can't either, we'd be set.

If people friggin enjoy something that you don't, just let it go and quit the girly whining.

So you said.
Yes. I seem to be having a run of connection problems. Its been slow today and now this on and off thing kind of made me make that mistake. I'll erase it.

If people friggin enjoy something that you don't, just let it go and quit the girly whining.

People enjoy drugs. Should we leave them alone?

People enjoy drugs. Should we leave them alone?

Yeah. If they aren't hurting you directly, ignore them.

Besides that is a HORRIBLE analogy. Drug abuse can be illegal which has little to do with the Star Wars appreciation in our culture.

With drugs and people abusing them, leave it to the cops whom have the job of worrying about illegal activities.

You can really only judge pop-art, by popularity.

Now you're assuming that it's art instead of "wear and tear" consumerism.

And at any rate, none of those three enjoy anything like the popularity of Star Wars. The beatles would be a better example.

You flatter Star Wars fans. You should look into Céline Dion's record sales. She is, and this makes me afraid of the dark, according to some sources the best selling female artist of all times, world wide. (http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/3133)

Britney Spears is the top selling artist of this millennium! The comparisons were on the spot! Actually, comparing their popularity to Star Wars was a put-down to them.

It helps though. I curious, what do you consider a good movie, or do you just hate the medium in general.

I like Ingmar Bergman's "Viskningar och rop" ("Cries and Whispers" in English). The Godfather Trilogy. Adventure's of Priscilla - Queen of the Desert. Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Almost Famous. Fucking Åmål ("Show me love" in English). Lilja 4-ever. Casa Blanca. Citizen Kane. Ciudad de Deus. Fargo. Pulp Fiction. Snatch. And so on, and so forth...

No, he was always bad. Very very bad. The man just can't act.

He was outstanding in Raging Bull and Taxi Driver.

Yeah. If they aren't hurting you directly, ignore them.

Besides that is a HORRIBLE analogy. Drug abuse can be illegal which has little to do with the Star Wars appreciation in our culture.

With drugs and people abusing them, leave it to the cops whom have the job of worrying about illegal activities.

Drug users can hurt anybody in the quest for a fix.

I know the analogy is horrible, and I'm sorry if people were offended by it, but it is accurate to some degree. People pat OTT prices for anything even remotely Star Wars. I've heard of people camping for a weekend for tickets, and I wouldn't be surprised if people got into fights over it.

I know people have died taking drugs but it is possible that someone, a child most likely, has been injured through trying to build a pod-racer or make a lightsaber. Unlikely, yes, but read the Darwin Awards, those were unlikely too.

Illegal activites. With 6 movies and who knows how many games, I'm sure the police have to deal with Mr. Piracy now and then.

You flatter Star Wars fans. You should look into Céline Dion's record sales. She is, and this makes me afraid of the dark, according to some sources the best selling female artist of all times, world wide. (http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/3133)

Britney Spears is the top selling artist of this millennium! The comparisons were on the spot! Actually, comparing their popularity to Star Wars was a put-down to them.

None of them have the same recognition internationally as SW, nor have they had the same endurance. (30yrs), or cut across demographics the same way. And you know it.


I like Ingmar Bergman's "Viskningar och rop" ("Cries and Whispers" in English). The Godfather Trilogy. Adventure's of Priscilla - Queen of the Desert. Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Almost Famous. Fucking Åmål ("Show me love" in English). Lilja 4-ever. Casa Blanca. Citizen Kane. Ciudad de Deus. Fargo. Pulp Fiction. Snatch. And so on, and so forth...

Well, you like Pulp Fiction, and that's populist rubbish too. So now you are just being a hypocrite. And you know it. Anyway, just because Star Wars is made, doesn't stop rubbish from Quentin Tarantino being produced. So why be such a hater.




He was outstanding in Raging Bull and Taxi Driver.

Taxi driver is nonsense.

None of them have the same recognition internationally as SW, nor have they had the same endurance. (30yrs), or cut across demographics the same way. And you know it.

You seem to know very little about Céline Dion's career. She is one of the most famous women in the world, has a career spanning three decades, and almost universal, global success. Really, comparing her to Star Wars is almost an afront to her success.

And yet she sucks ass. Imagine that!

Well, you like Pulp Fiction, and that's populist rubbish too. So now you are just being a hypocrite.

I never claimed that populist = rubbish. I claimed that "populist" != "not rubbish". Before you call someone a hypocrite, read what they have written (and also realise that a lot of the movies mentioned never were successfull among general audiences).

And you know it. Anyway, just because Star Wars is made, doesn't stop rubbish from Quentin Tarantino being produced. So why be such a hater.

I'm not a hater. I'm just tired of Star Wars and debate that's it's bad because George Lucas can't write. Mention how I'm not defending Quentin Tarantino? That's not just because I don't care about your opinion of him and his works, it's mostly because I don't have to. He is recognised by his peers, something George Lucas outside of Industrial Light and Magic can only reminisce about today.

Taxi driver is nonsense.

Again, I don't need to defend it.