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What can I say, I'm kinda bored. Thought I'd see what people think of the new series with Chris Ecclestone & Billie Piper, and see if there were any diehards who still prefer the Doctors of yesteryear.

And also to see if anyone actively dislikes either the old or the new series.

Personally, I always loved Doctor Who, and I think Chris Ecclestone has done an unbelievably good job of portraying the Ninth incarnation of the Doctor. I've never felt more persuaded as to the authenticity of the character of the Doctor as I have over these last eight or nine episodes.

What do you have to say, if anything at all?

What can I say, I'm kinda bored. Thought I'd see what people think of the new series with Chris Ecclestone & Billie Piper, and see if there were any diehards who still prefer the Doctors of yesteryear.

And also to see if anyone actively dislikes either the old or the new series.

Personally, I always loved Doctor Who, and I think Chris Ecclestone has done an unbelievably good job of portraying the Ninth incarnation of the Doctor. I've never felt more persuaded as to the authenticity of the character of the Doctor as I have over these last eight or nine episodes.

What do you have to say, if anything at all?
Liked the old one; haven't seen the new one. :)

I'm liking this new Dr Who quite a bit. I also liked the old one, too bad we only got a couple of seasons or so back then.

David Tennant for the new doctor! Wait, he is!

Yeah, i like it! Its far better than the old series... Eccelston isn't that good, in my opinion, but Piper wwas fantastic...

This new Doctor seems...odd. A little too hyper for my tastes, and he seems alomost useless at times, relying on his sidekicks too much at times. But then again, he is quite modern, and funny at times.

Oh, and 'The Empty Child' was the scariest thing I've seen in ages. Can't say the same about 'Doctor Dances' though - ending was a bit too anti-climatic for me - zombies werent used enough.

where's the option for "quite like the new series, but am too young to have seen the old series"?

'The Empty Child' was just freaky! Richard Wilson turning into a gas-mask zombie was pretty good, though.

where's the option for "quite like the new series, but am too young to have seen the old series"?

Watch the dvds... >_>

Liked the old ones when I see them (not often) and the new ones are okay. Ecclestone is brilliant, as is Piper. Shame Chris is only doing one series.
I must admit though, the episode with the Dalek was shite! Emotions? Nah, doesn't work. Soppy endings? Nope. At least they fixed the ray beam, using fancy CGI instead of a fire extinguisher.

Liked the old ones when I see them (not often) and the new ones are okay. Ecclestone is brilliant, as is Piper. Shame Chris is only doing one series.
I must admit though, the episode with the Dalek was shite! Emotions? Nah, doesn't work. Soppy endings? Nope. At least they fixed the ray beam, using fancy CGI instead of a fire extinguisher.

Really? I've tried not letting myself get sucked into the soppy endings, but I always end up being a big suck and getting misty-eyed, even for the Dalek.

I know... it was just an animatronic puppet inside an oversized pepper-mill with a toilet plunger for a hand, but - *chokes* it was so heart-rending, what with finding out about the Time Lords and all.

Watch the dvds... >_>

if it's all the same to you, i'd rather not :p

if it's all the same to you, i'd rather not :p

I agree. 8 Doctors mean a hefty price at HMV.

if it's all the same to you, i'd rather not :p

lol. I don't care, its just a bit of fun... :) But don't, their pretty bad...

"Empty Child" was scary the first time i saw it, but the second it was more enjoyable.... ^_^

Liked the old, and like the new. (THough nothing beats Pat Troughton and his Jelly Babies!) Easily pleased I guess... ;)

I think they made the Dalek a bit soppy come the end, come one people we don't need to know what feelings motivate a Dalek, we just need to know it hates everyone and wants to kill them! It started well though, and I hope the rumours are true!

Spoiler:
The last episode (or 2) supposidly see the return of the evil metal pepperpots! Hooray!

Not much of a spoiler, I knew that for ages.... >_>

Not much of a spoiler, I knew that for ages.... >_>
I know it's not, but some people don't and they might not want to!

Meh. Yeah, but it's kinda obvious.... They had to do it....

The Grauniad came up with a good Billie-related simile a few weeks ago: "Lips like a jack-knifed hovercraft".

They have a point. But aside from that, I like the new series.

I have to admit, I had grave reservations about casting Billie Piper as Rose Tyler prior to having seen the new series, and I was so pleased to find my anxieties misplaced. I've been more than impressed with her presence and character - and I like her hovercraft, too, jack-knifed or not!

I have to admit, I had grave reservations about casting Billie Piper as Rose Tyler prior to having seen the new series, and I was so pleased to find my anxieties misplaced. I've been more than impressed with her presence and character - and I like her hovercraft, too, jack-knifed or not!

Seconded

Having only seen the second episode (it aired last night) I am still unsure if I like it as much as the old series.

Who would you trust more in a bad SF situation -

a) The Doctor and his sonic screwdriver,

b) Han Solo and his blaster,

c) Captain Kirk and his easy-tear tunics,

d) Fox Mulder and his mag-lite, or

e)Twiki and his talking disco medallion, Dr. Theopolis?

The Doctor, unless it was some scantily clad female then of course Kirk would rescue her.

The Doctor, unless it was some scantily clad female then of course Kirk would rescue her.

Yes, scantily-clad women are in short supply at the best of times in the Doctor's universe. Maybe if he invested in some easy-tear tunics...hmmm...

Yes, scantily-clad women are in short supply at the best of times in the Doctor's universe. Maybe if he invested in some easy-tear tunics...hmmm...

The Doctor rescued Adric, HE was scantily clothed... Is there something the Doctor isn't telling us, eh? ;)

The Doctor rescued Adric, HE was scantily clothed... Is there something the Doctor isn't telling us, eh? ;)

I'd always wondered why Romana left so abruptly. I think she just started feeling awkward at the breakfast table after Adric showed up. The Doctor was uhh...'mentoring' the boy...yeah, 'mentoring', that's what you call it. Not actually sodomizing him. On camera, anyway.

LOL

Having only seen the second episode (it aired last night) I am still unsure if I like it as much as the old series.

The third episode is where things start getting good (The Unquiet Dead) although it did feel somewhat rushed being crammed into 45 minutes. I thought The End Of The World was entertaining, but fell somewhat short of its ful;l potential. Episodes 4 or 5 likewise, but number six - Dalek - is the proverbial shit.

I'd always wondered why Romana left so abruptly. I think she just started feeling awkward at the breakfast table after Adric showed up. The Doctor was uhh...'mentoring' the boy...yeah, 'mentoring', that's what you call it. Not actually sodomizing him. On camera, anyway.

LOL

No: it wasn't the Doctor. It was when young Matthew Waterhouse was placed in literal bondage by The Master in Castrovalva that a hard on could be seen appearing in his trousers.

I've never really liked Doctor Who. Hated the crappy acting and bad effects. But I watched the new one for the first time yesterday and it really isn't that bad. The got the theme music perfect.

The got the theme music perfect.

Nah: far, far too orchestral. It lacks the cold alien futurity of the original Derbyshire/Grainger tape loop version.

Nah: far, far too orchestral. It lacks the cold alien futurity of the original Derbyshire/Grainger tape loop version.

Purist.

My question is, what can Doctor Who be without the Daleks?

Purist.

No not entirely: the original Derbyshire version didn't have the amazing squawk/screech from the end of the show during the milk-tunnel days. It still remains a quite unsettling (and thus immensely loveable) noise.

My question is, what can Doctor Who be without the Daleks?

I hear they're coming back.

No not entirely: the original Derbyshire version didn't have the amazing squawk/screech from the end of the show during the milk-tunnel days. It still remains a quite unsettling (and thus immensely loveable) noise.

Somebody gave me a link to an online "audio mixer" that allowed you to create your own versions of the Doctor Who theme song, but I stupidly didn't bookmark it.

Somebody gave me a link to an online "audio mixer" that allowed you to create your own versions of the Doctor Who theme song, but I stupidly didn't bookmark it.

Radiophonatron?- http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/news/radiophonatron.shtml

A page with more different homemade versions than you can shake a stick at:

http://whomix.trilete.net/?wmid=music

Enjoy.

Before the new series started I had never seen an episode.
So far I've only seen the 1st episode of the new series and 2 episodes of the 4th Doctor, and I see myself becoming hooked very quickly.

Immensely cool. Greatly appreciated.

Before the new series started I had never seen an episode.
So far I've only seen the 1st episode of the new series and 2 episodes of the 4th Doctor, and I see myself becoming hooked very quickly.

The third and fouth Doctors were my faves (Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker), at least until Ecclestone played the part. Right now I honestly think he's my favourite Doctor.

Ecclestone

Hint: Eccleston. Just the two E's. No terminal vowel.

Hint: Eccleston. Just the two E's. No terminal vowel.

Wasn't paying attention. My mistake.

I'm pretty much totally indifferent to the new one, I like some sci-fi but think Doctor Who is a little bit naff. I haven't seen the old ones.

Having only seen the second episode (it aired last night) I am still unsure if I like it as much as the old series.

exellent another Aussie i thought i was going made when someone mentioned eight or nine episodes. my mum likes the new one. I have reservations about the new doctor, but its still good.

exellent another Aussie i thought i was going made when someone mentioned eight or nine episodes. my mum likes the new one. I have reservations about the new doctor, but its still good.

Of course, you could try downloading the torrents...

Why are they being broadcast so much later in Australia than in Canada or UK? In Canada, we're getting them a week or two after the BBC.

By the way, just out of curiousity - who's carrying the series in Australia? ABC?

Why are they being broadcast so much later in Australia than in Canada or UK? In Canada, we're getting them a week or two after the BBC.


Canada were co-producers and co-financiers on the series, and so weren't involved in the lengthy process of waiting until some roughcut episodes could be shown to them before deciding whether they wanted to buy the series or not.

Just watched The Doctor Dances. Very good - apart from the appearance of a 1947 model reel-to-reel tape recorder in 1941...

Canada were co-producers and co-financiers on the series, and so weren't involved in the lengthy process of waiting until some roughcut episodes could be shown to them before deciding whether they wanted to buy the series or not.

Just watched The Doctor Dances. Very good - apart from the appearance of a 1947 model reel-to-reel tape recorder in 1941...

Haven't seen it yet. Could the reel-to-reel have possibly been a prototype? Or do I detect the Master somewhere in all of this...

LOL

Haven't seen it yet. Could the reel-to-reel have possibly been a prototype?

Not by that company. It didn't exist at the time. Anyhow, we can excuse this because:

a.) the Doctor's world isn't quite our world (cf. UNIT dating)
b.) it could be fallout from the Time War
and
c.) - most importantly - it was used in a damn good way in the show

Not by that company. It didn't exist at the time. Anyhow, we can excuse this because:

a.) the Doctor's world isn't quite our world (cf. UNIT dating)
b.) it could be fallout from the Time War
and
c.) - most importantly - it was used in a damn good way in the show

a) Damn, I'd always wondered why I never saw stories about marauding papier-mache sea monsters, rubberfaced aliens or homicidal shrubbery in the news...!

b) I want to see the Time War serialized for television, hopefully with Eccleston cast as the Doctor (could be a flashback framed in an extended or multi-part program ostensibly starring David Tennant, Doctor #10).

c) That's what counts most. Playing fast and loose to no good purpose is always a little irritating, isn't it?

I like the current show. It has been much more accessable than I expected (a good thing since my Doctor Who knowledge hardly extends beyond Jon Culshaw's impression on Dead Ringers). I only wish Russel T Davis didn't write so many of the episodes.

Don't get me wrong, they aren't badly written (far better then I could do for a start). Just that the episodes which he didn't write have been far better imo. (Notably, The Unquiet Dead, The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances. Probably my three favorite episodes.)

Just that the episodes which he didn't write have been far better imo. (Notably, The Unquiet Dead, The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances. Probably my three favorite episodes.)

General consensus seems to be that the five he didn't write (the ones you listed along with Dalek and Father's Day) are the best of the current series.

General consensus seems to be that the five he didn't write (the ones you listed along with Dalek and Father's Day) are the best of the current series.

Really?

Good to know. I'm not usually on the pulse with other people :)

I'm just hoping he takes more of a back seat role in the next series.

I'm just hoping he takes more of a bad seat role in the next series.

A bad seat as opposed to a back seat? Or a bad seat as opposed to a bad seed?

Yuks.

Me too, btw. Me too.

A bad seat as opposed to a back seat? Or a bad seat as opposed to a bad seed?

:( I'm usually quite good at catching typos.

Thanks :)

Yuks.

Me too, btw. Me too.

Indeed. I especially hope your man who wrote the two set in WWII (Empty Child and Doctor Dances) writes some. (Something Moffat I think, imdb.com isn't working for me at the moment so I cannot check)

Are you watching it as it comes on air over there or do you watch it over the internet?

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Most of the people I know are downloading it, but still watching it on CBC anyway. I decided not to download 'em, and just enjoy it when it's broadcast.

I made up my mind a while back that the difference between TV and video is the fact that as a TV viewer, you're actually part of an audience, whereas you are the audience with video. The group thing holds more appeal for me when all is said and done.

Kinda like classic Star Trek - I might have seasons one and two on DVD, but...it's just not the same as flipping the dial on the set and happening upon Mr. Spock being viciously attacked by flying novelty vomit. Perfect. Knowing there's anybody at all out there watching the same thing I'm watching is a bit of a kick.

Anyway, I'd love to stay and chat, but it's ten to eight. Coronation Street is wrapping up, and the Doctor will be gracing my livingroom shortly.

Seeya later!

Dobbs.

I have really enjoyed the new series so far and have found their attempts to eject some emotion into it very good indeed.

I really think these bloody people who go around saying "Oh they should just be more killing and more destruction" are real idiots. With demands like that, you have turned cinema into what it is today: a mindless bloodbath with neither soul nor complexity.

The Dalek episdoe was bit poor in relation to emotions though - there is only so far that we humans can sympathise with a giant pepper pot. However the episode where they go back to save her dad is a very touching one indeed and it absorbed me completely. The last two (especially the Doctor Dances) were also quite moving while at the same time eerie and dark.

The most gripping (and actually my favourites so far) were the two Slitheen episodes. There was real tension at the end with the missle coming in No.10 while they were waiting for the nuclear clearance codes. Also I think the Slitheen made quite scary bad guys indeed (well at least at first).

The worst episode is a toss up between the first one (I really didn't like the bad guy) or the one when the giant blob thingy was controlling the human race with news broadcasts.

The one thing I was disappointed about was the fact that the Cypermen aren't appearing in this series - they are going to be in the second one, in a two parter. Having seen David Tennant in Cassanova, I think he will make a great Doctor.

Most of the people I know are downloading it, but still watching it on CBC anyway. I decided not to download 'em, and just enjoy it when it's broadcast.

I made up my mind a while back that the difference between TV and video is the fact that as a TV viewer, you're actually part of an audience, whereas you are the audience with video. The group thing holds more appeal for me when all is said and done.

Kinda like classic Star Trek - I might have seasons one and two on DVD, but...it's just not the same as flipping the dial on the set and happening upon Mr. Spock being viciously attacked by flying novelty vomit. Perfect. Knowing there's anybody at all out there watching the same thing I'm watching is a bit of a kick.

I know the feeling. I've stayed up till 1:00 am before to watch a film I had on DVD. Well, I was up anyway...

Anyway, I'd love to stay and chat, but it's ten to eight. Coronation Street is wrapping up, and the Doctor will be gracing my livingroom shortly.

You get Corrie in Canada?

Does that type of Manchester life translate well across the pond.

Seeya later!

Dobbs.

Enjoy :)


The most gripping (and actually my favourites so far) were the two Slitheen episodes. There was real tension at the end with the missle coming in No.10 while they were waiting for the nuclear clearance codes. Also I think the Slitheen made quite scary bad guys indeed (well at least at first).

Really?

Possible spoiler, if you are really die hard about this stuff and didn't watch the trailer after The Doctor Dances

Actually, I am looking forward to next weeks episode. I'm just hoping that Davis keeps the fart jokes to a minimum, they were slightly funny the first few times but got very old very quick imo. Though I do like the idea that possibly the Gelth could reappear.

Having seen David Tennant in Cassanova, I think he will make a great Doctor.

So I have heard (though I never watched it). I do hope he is allowed to wear a kilt though. Maybe that's just me...

(Though it does seem slightly indulgent)

The Dalek episdoe was bit poor in relation to emotions though - there is only so far that we humans can sympathise with a giant pepper pot.

Half of the emotional charge of the episode was empathy for the Dalek, the other half was seeing the Doctor trying to do what he had already failed twice to do - commit genocide.

That and the lovely interplay between the pair of them in the holding cell, in which the Dalek got all the best lines - such as YOU WOULD MAKE A GOOD DALEK and the wonderfully intentionally ambiguous AND YET THE COWARD SURVIVED.

Aside from that if you didn't get a kick from actually seeing a Dalek that was a mean, conniving, manipulative, beweaponed-up-the-ass, killing machine in contrast to the old series where they were never used to their full potential and were always easily disabled by placing a hat on their eyestalk*, then I don't know what would give you a kick.

Just that one shot where we saw the central section of the Dalek rotate to exterminate those behind it would have been worth the rest of the 45 minutes if nothing else at all had happened.


Oops. The fanboy inside me is escaping.





* MY VISION IS IMPAIRED! MY VISION IS IMPAIRED!

That was one of the reasons I like the Dalek episode. The Doctor shows signs that he is not the typical golden boy. A fact, I have been told by old time fans, that existed in the original series too.


Though I have to ask. Any "Bad Wolf" theories?

(the phrase "bad wolf" has appeared in [nearly] every episode apparently. Though I noticed some of the more obvious ones, I didn't think anything of it. But today I accidently stumpled onto a web of conspiracy theories regarding it on the internet)

Ok, having never EVER watched the DR Whos i tuned in for this new show.

I thought it was great, but soon found out the actors suck BADLY! Chris E Sucks and Billy Piper Is Worse!

The darlek was cool, I know a child like that.... Just stands there... Anywhos lol

Empty Child WAS SCARY!!! Are you my mommy.... If i saw that in a dark alley i would have kicked its head in.... Creepy Little GIT!!! Ground His Ass! lol

How hot was Jack Harkness? HOT!! Anywho the best episode so far was Aliens In London! Ship taking out big ben was great and they did not use the HUGELY OVER USED big ben explosion from Independance Day!!


So Even With Bad Actors The Show Is Still 6/10!!


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You get Corrie in Canada?

Does that type of Manchester life translate well across the pond.


I used to watch it yeeeears ago (like thirty years ago - *gulp*) when CBC would show it in the afternoons, with my mother. I stopped watching when I started going to school.

I've caught tail-ends of episodes while waiting for Doctor Who, and I guess the one thing that's taken me by surprise is how little it's changed over all these years.

Does it translate well? As well as it ever did, I suppose. There's one or two people I've met who can't wrap their heads around the accents, but I don't notice it too much. After all, I was weened on a lot of UK television via CBC.

Anyone else remember 'The Tomorrow People'?

Heh.

Tonight's episode of Doctor Who was 'The Empty Child', btw. I can't decide whether it was creepy or silly. As usual, a bit of both. Looking forward to next week, as always.

Tonight's episode of Doctor Who was 'The Empty Child', btw. I can't decide whether it was creepy or silly. As usual, a bit of both. Looking forward to next week, as always.

I was initially left somewhat uncertain by that episode - it looked great and had all the right elements, but I was worried that it wasn't actually going to lead up to anything in the concluding episode. It does. It delivers.

Corrie is going global soon, new zeland and some other countries :D EVERYONE WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY CORRIE ALL OVER THE WORLD LOL!!! plus its the worlds longest running soap :D

Love It Its BRITISH!!

plus its the worlds longest running soap :D


Nope. Not even close.

Coronation Street 1960-

The Archers 1951-

Guiding Light (USA) 1937-

Corrie is going global soon, new zeland and some other countries :D EVERYONE WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY CORRIE ALL OVER THE WORLD LOL!!! plus its the worlds longest running soap :D

Love It Its BRITISH!!

Really? To me, a soap is a soap is a soap. The fact that Coronation Street is a UK soap doesn't make it any less a soap - and truth be told, if there's one thing I can't stand it's a soap.

I'd sooner watch a marathon of bad sitcoms than soaps (and that's saying something, as I've avoided watching sitcoms for more than twenty years). I know Coronation Street has a broad-based appeal, I just don't particularly care for it. Not my thing...

Of course, you could try downloading the torrents...

Why are they being broadcast so much later in Australia than in Canada or UK? In Canada, we're getting them a week or two after the BBC.

By the way, just out of curiousity - who's carrying the series in Australia? ABC?

yep abc saturday 7:30pm