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That's right, no Kraft maccaroni and cheese for god fearing Christian folks. Kraft is sponsoring the "Gay Games". Because of that at least two religious right "family values" organizations have condemned them.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/kraftattackedforbackinggaygames

Yeah, 'cause you know, us evil gay folks are such a threat to Christians that even those who support us must be punished.

Christians tend to hate anything that goes against their beliefs. It's unfortunate, too, because that's not what Christ taught.

:fluffle:

without kraft mac and cheese christianity would collapse

First of all...

There's a Gay games? Is that like the special olympics, except the participants wear rainbows out of pride instead of mental handicap?

And why can't gay people compete in competitions with everyone else? Are they not allowed, or do they want to have their own games?

And does anyone else hate this American Family Association? They are a bunch of Puritan bigots! If I find a list of who they have boycotted, I will buy products from those companies with a vengance.
mmmm.... Kraft mac and cheese...

First of all...

There's a Gay games? Is that like the special olympics, except the participants wear rainbows out of pride instead of mental handicap?

And why can't gay people compete in competitions with everyone else? Are they not allowed, or do they want to have their own games?

Google is such a wonderful tool: http://www.gaygames.com/en/

And does anyone else hate this American Family Association? They are a bunch of Puritan bigots! If I find a list of who they have boycotted, I will buy products from those companies with a vengance.
mmmm.... Kraft mac and cheese...

I don't hate them. If I as a gay man went around hating people that hate me, not only would I be no better, I'd have very little time to do anything else. I pity them for a few moments, and then I go on with my life.

Aye, this is indeed stupid. But the title is misleading and unfair to the tolerant and accepting Christians out there.

And why can't gay people compete in competitions with everyone else? Are they not allowed, or do they want to have their own games?

I suppose it's an identity thing. Us gay people are a little bent on being with our own kind in certain cases, but we (or at least I) just as much enjoy being in a mixed environment with gay and straight people. I think that any minority can testify to the desire to be around those of their same background. ;)

There is only one answer. :sniper: :mp5: <---- The Smiley Swat Team!

Actually, I just wanted an excuse to use those. Hee.

Christian organizations are idiotic for the most part. If you ignore them, they usually go away as soon as they find someone new to hate.

Christians tend to hate anything that goes against their beliefs. It's unfortunate, too, because that's not what Christ taught.

All too true... :rolleyes:

And does anyone else hate this American Family Association? They are a bunch of Puritan bigots! If I find a list of who they have boycotted, I will buy products from those companies with a vengance.
mmmm.... Kraft mac and cheese...
I'd imagine all you have to do is go to their website and you can find a list of holy and unholy companies. And that sounds like a very good idea, by the way--supporting the companies, that is. The website--it give me the creepies a little. All the gay-hating and everything, you know.

Christians tend to hate anything that goes against their beliefs. It's unfortunate, too, because that's not what Christ taught.

Not all Christians, as many liberal christian denominations tolerate the beliefs of others like Christ taught.

>_<

Not all Christians, as many liberal christian denominations tolerate the beliefs of others like Christ taught.
More than tolerate--they even embrace them. The UU Church is such a place.

I strongly disagree with the AFA, but I'm already boycotting Kraft...they're part of the tobacco-industry giant Altria, plus they were one of the biggest contributors to Bush's reelection campaign... :mad:

:rolleyes: Some people just have too much time on their hands.
It says they regularly complain to companies who advertise on shows like "Will&Grace" and "Desperate housewifes". I can just imagine a group of loving christians sitting in front of the TV with a pen and a piece of paper, desperately waiting for the commercial break...

No, really, I don't fully understand why there has to be a special "Gay Olympics", but if they want them, why not?

On the AFA website, under 'homeosexual agenda' there is a disturbing article, which says, among other things, this:
I lived the high life. I was on my way -- my way. I had an incredible life dangling before me... and it was all turned upside down one day in January of 1992 -- by Jesus Christ.

Is this disturbing to any of you? Isn't there a little red lightbulb going off somewhere?

I strongly disagree with the AFA, but I'm already boycotting Kraft...they're part of the tobacco-industry giant Altria, plus they were one of the biggest contributors to Bush's reelection campaign... :mad:

What? You mean Kraft is a red and blue company all mixed into one? I don't get it...

I am a Christian and I do not hate gay people. I do dislike that a sin is committed but I do not hate the person for doing it. That would be like hating someone who has even stolen something. That would be hating on 98% of the worlds population and me.

I am a Christian and I do not hate gay people. I do dislike that a sin is committed but I do not hate the person for doing it. That would be like hating someone who has even stolen something. That would be hating on 98% of the worlds population and me.
The post wasn't aimed at tolerant Christians. Only at the Christian taliban that operates in the USA.

The post wasn't aimed at tolerant Christians. Only at the Christian taliban that operates in the USA.
Where's the christian taliban? I'm in ohio.

Where's the christian taliban? I'm in ohio.
They're spread throughout the nation and led by Mullah James Dobbson in his mountainous hideout and Christian terrorist training camp in Colorado.

I am a Christian and I do not hate gay people. I do dislike that a sin is committed but I do not hate the person for doing it. That would be like hating someone who has even stolen something. That would be hating on 98% of the worlds population and me.

Bob, this bugs me! Christians who think they are better than other, "intolerant" christians, but who still label my love as a "sin". :rolleyes:

The post wasn't aimed at tolerant Christians. Only at the Christian taliban that operates in the USA.

On a side note, the Taliban was a good thing for Afghanistan. A centralized government led by a man who had the nation's good in mind. The only problem was that they supported terrorists, but in their situation, it was kinda hard not to support the fundamentalist extremists of their faith, and who knows what Osama could have done to the Taliban had they not given him the support he needed? I wish there had been some way to hunt down Osama and keep the Taliban in place. It was a fundamentalist Muslim government for fundamentalist Muslim country, and that to me sounds more like democracy than the total anarchy we've put that country in now. But that's only a side note.

Bob, this bugs me! Christians who think they are better than other, "intolerant" christians, but who still label my love as a "sin". :rolleyes:
Hey, it's their right to think what they want. Just as long as they don't trample on your rights you've really haven't got much to complain about.

They're spread throughout the nation and led by Mullah James Dobbson in his mountainous hideout and Christian terrorist training camp in Colorado.

Oooh, ooh, Christian terrorist training camp in CO?? Where is it? I wanna bomb it!

They're spread throughout the nation and led by Mullah James Dobbson in his mountainous hideout and Christian terrorist training camp in Colorado.
Sounds horrendous!

On a side note, the Taliban was a good thing for Afghanistan. A centralized government led by a man who had the nation's good in mind. The only problem was that they supported terrorists, but in their situation, it was kinda hard not to support the fundamentalist extremists of their faith, and who knows what Osama could have done to the Taliban had they not given him the support he needed? I wish there had been some way to hunt down Osama and keep the Taliban in place. It was a fundamentalist Muslim government for fundamentalist Muslim country, and that to me sounds more like democracy than the total anarchy we've put that country in now. But that's only a side note.
Oh, so stoning women to death for adultery because they'd been raped, executing gays, having public shootings and amputations for crimes like "insulting the prophet" are good for a nation?

Making it illegal for women to work, have any contact with men outside their family, dressing in a burqua, and installing a de facto ban on women's medical care (women can't be seen by a male doctor, and women can't work as doctors, so women can't get medical care) is all in the nation's best interest?

Oooh, ooh, Christian terrorist training camp in CO?? Where is it? I wanna bomb it!
Do a google search on Focus on the Family.

This reminds me of when my dad got a bulletin from the Southern Baptist Convention in the early nineties telling us to stop buy Colgate because they supported Satanists. :)

...Does anyone else hate this American Family Association? They are a bunch of Puritan bigots! If I find a list of who they have boycotted, I will buy products from those companies with a vengance.
mmmm.... Kraft mac and cheese...

I for one don't hate them, since I try to keep myself from hating anything passionately, because I believe passion clouds reason. However, I do despise them and resent their association with the rest of America's Christians, and all in the name of family values? Please, it's all in the name of fundamentalist Christian right values, and those people have just as many family problems as everyone else. As an open-minded, tolerant, and non-overbearing Christian, I would happily subvert any boycott proposed by organized religion's fundamentalist right.

Bob, this bugs me! Christians who think they are better than other, "intolerant" christians, but who still label my love as a "sin". :rolleyes:
The difference is if I saw you on the street, I would shake your hand and give you the respect of what I give when I first meet any other person. Yeah, and I guess it is all what we think as Drunk commies reborn stated.

This reminds me of when my dad got a bulletin from the Southern Baptist Convention in the early nineties telling us to stop buy Colgate because they supported Satanists. :)
It's true! There's a coupon good for a free box of dental floss in the back of every Satanic Bible.

Oh, so stoning women to death for adultery because they'd been raped, executing gays, having public shootings and amputations for crimes like "insulting the prophet" are good for a nation?

Making it illegal for women to work, have any contact with men outside their family, dressing in a burqua, and installing a de facto ban on women's medical care (women can't be seen by a male doctor, and women can't work as doctors, so women can't get medical care) is all in the nation's best interest?

Ok, ok, my bad, I jumped into that way too fast, but I will say that stoning women to death for adultery is a cultural/religious NOT a governmental problem in the Middle East. It's not something we can go over there and say, hey, stop doing this, when we barely have enough troops to keep Karzai alive. If we went to "liberate" Afghanistan from crimes against humanity such as those listed by you, why the heck haven't we done anything to Iran or Saudi Arabia yet? Hm? It's all about the propaganda, warmongering, and oil interests, and if it isn't ALL about it, then it's a big part of it. Also, for the record, having women dress in a burqua isn't a bad thing, it's a religious thing that the people hold as tradition. We should definitely do away with the restrictive, inhumane Muslim traditions supported by the Taliban, such as stoning, amputation, etc. for petty crimes, and allow women to work esp. in medicine, but we really aren't doing as good a job as any would like.

Ok, ok, my bad, I jumped into that way too fast, but I will say that stoning women to death for adultery is a cultural/religious NOT a governmental problem in the Middle East. It's not something we can go over there and say, hey, stop doing this, when we barely have enough troops to keep Karzai alive. If we went to "liberate" Afghanistan from crimes against humanity such as those listed by you, why the heck haven't we done anything to Iran or Saudi Arabia yet? Hm? It's all about the propaganda, warmongering, and oil interests, and if it isn't ALL about it, then it's a big part of it. Also, for the record, having women dress in a burqua isn't a bad thing, it's a religious thing that the people hold as tradition. We should definitely do away with the restrictive, inhumane Muslim traditions supported by the Taliban, such as stoning, amputation, etc. for petty crimes, and allow women to work esp. in medicine, but we really aren't doing as good a job as any would like.
I agree to a certain extent. Much of the bad influence that keeps the Islamic world from progressing comes out of Saudi Arabia. We need to do something about the regime, the Wahabbi form of Islam that spreads from there, and the people who support that repressive and barbaric form of Islam.

That's right, no Kraft maccaroni and cheese for god fearing Christian folks. Kraft is sponsoring the "Gay Games". Because of that at least two religious right "family values" organizations have condemned them.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/kraftattackedforbackinggaygames

Wonderful and I hope RJR Nabisco (owner of the Kraft foods division) monoplizes the food industry so that the sanctimonious rightt wing blight may starve to death while choking on its own hypocrisies. :)

Do a google search on Focus on the Family.


My mom gets those newsletters from Focus on the Family. I love it when she purposely leaves out the "Homosexuality is Wrong" sections for me to read when I'm getting ready for work...

Hey, it's their right to think what they want. Just as long as they don't trample on your rights you've really haven't got much to complain about.

Of course not, it's just the "I'm holier than thou" crap that's annoying. You're still not going to be "a o.k." as long as you put out that little "I still think it's a sin, though" disclaimer with me.

It's true! There's a coupon good for a free box of dental floss in the back of every Satanic Bible.


Hahahaha. That's amusing. Go to hell, but keep your teeth clean!

The difference is if I saw you on the street, I would shake your hand and give you the respect of what I give when I first meet any other person. Yeah, and I guess it is all what we think as Drunk commies reborn stated.

You see, it's just not OK with me that my love is labeled a "sin". Your handshake and "respect" will mean nothing to me as long as you see my love as an abomination.

I'm buying a shitload of Kraft Mac & Cheese next time I go to the supermarket.

Of course not, it's just the "I'm holier than thou" crap that's annoying. You're still not going to be "a o.k." as long as you put that little "I still think it's a sin, though" with me.
I do not think I am holier than anyone is. For all I know I might be going to the bowels of the abyss.

I'm buying a shitload of Kraft Mac & Cheese next time I go to the supermarket.

Bah, that's not really supporting Kraft. You're just supporting your local supermarket. Kraft gets not a dime of your money if you buy from the store. Instead, the store pays a distributor, which then pays kraft. Whether or not the store sells the stuff makes no real difference.

If you REALLY want to support kraft, call them up and have them Deliver 100 crates of Mac&Cheese to your house, and at a fraction of the cost, to!

They need to get a life instead of persecuting EVERYTHING.

:rolleyes: :mp5: :sniper:

Bah, that's not really supporting Kraft. You're just supporting your local supermarket. Kraft gets not a dime of your money if you buy from the store. Instead, the store pays a distributor, which then pays kraft. Whether or not the store sells the stuff makes no real difference.

If you REALLY want to support kraft, call them up and have them Deliver 100 crates of Mac&Cheese to your house, and at a fraction of the cost, to!

I know what I'm sleeping in tonight! A bed of macaroni, a cheesebed, filled with cheese!!

Bah, that's not really supporting Kraft. You're just supporting your local supermarket. Kraft gets not a dime of your money if you buy from the store. Instead, the store pays a distributor, which then pays kraft. Whether or not the store sells the stuff makes no real difference.

If you REALLY want to support kraft, call them up and have them Deliver 100 crates of Mac&Cheese to your house, and at a fraction of the cost, to!
Better yet, buy up all of the available shares of Kraft stock. You not only support the company, but you also become part owner of it. You get to tell the board of directors what they should do, like sponsor more gay events or donate free powdered cheese to your local elementary school or whatever.

Can a mod please delete this thread? Personally I think these sorts of threads and any others that promote hatred should be deleted.

edit (and i dont think the remarks in the thread are directed towards "fundamentalists")

They need to get a life instead of persecuting EVERYTHING.

:rolleyes: :mp5: :sniper:

Sadly, that is their life, and I personally believe that they will be in for the biggest irony ever when they get to some kinda judgement and Christ says "Yeah, remember when I said 'They will say to me Lord, Lord, and did we not cast out demons in Your name? And I will say to them depart from me, I do not know you, you workers of iniquity.' Yeah, I was definitely talking about just what you did." I'm gonna laugh from Heaven and say, looks like you shoulda tended some planks in your own eye, bigots!!

Here's a question: suppose it were Moslems, fundamental Moslems, who decided that Kraft was un-Islamic? How do you suppose they would be handling this? Would anyone care to defend them if they rioted in the streets, burned cars and beheaded a few Kraft executives?

Maybe a letter-writing campaign and lame boycott is just within peoples' civil rights and does no harm to society. Just trying to keep a reasonable perspective on this.

Can a mod please delete this thread? Personally I think these sorts of threads and any others that promote hatred should be deleted.

Go report it in the Moderation forum if you believe it needs to be deleted.

Bah, that's not really supporting Kraft. You're just supporting your local supermarket. Kraft gets not a dime of your money if you buy from the store. Instead, the store pays a distributor, which then pays kraft. Whether or not the store sells the stuff makes no real difference.

If you REALLY want to support kraft, call them up and have them Deliver 100 crates of Mac&Cheese to your house, and at a fraction of the cost, to!

Now that's an idea!

Yep...Another Religious Nuts way of bitching about something that has NO context or Use....Im not siding with the gay thing either..its like the special olimpics....you may come in 1st,but your still a retard..or in this case..a fruit

Yep...Another Religious Nuts way of bitching about something that has NO context or Use....Im not siding with the gay thing either..its like the special olimpics....you may come in 1st,but your still a retard..or in this case..a fruit

I'm failing to see what's wrong with being the way they are.

I'm failing to see what's wrong with being the way they are.

Don't give it the fruit it wants!

Yep...Another Religious Nuts way of bitching about something that has NO context or Use....Im not siding with the gay thing either..its like the special olimpics....you may come in 1st,but your still a retard..or in this case..a fruit

Mmm...fruits and nuts and cheese. This is a tasty thread.

Mmm...fruits and nuts and cheese. This is a tasty thread.

Don't forget about the noodles!

Mmm...fruits and nuts and cheese. This is a tasty thread.

Dammit now I actually have to get off my lazy ass and eat lunch, cause you've all made me so hungry with this scrumptious talk of delicious things....

Don't forget about the noodles!

If you like seafood, I could prolly hook you up.... J/K

Can a mod please delete this thread? Personally I think these sorts of threads and any others that promote hatred should be deleted.
Max Barry is of the opinion that debate is better than censorship. However, given the level of flamebaiting and trolling in this thread, I think it has run its course as a debate. Therefore, ...

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