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So, if you were a backdesert moisture farmer's son on deadbeat Tatooine, would you run off to join the Empire? Great fringe benefits, free training, a cool suit and blaster rifle, and it's a great way to see the galaxy! Or would you try and save the Rebels from almost certain extermination, fight for the underdogs? Or maybe you're a down-home kinda guy and would actually stay home to farm and fend off sandpeople, cleaning droids for the townspeople when you needed extra creds. So, don't leave me in suspense! Tell me!

The problem with joining the Empire, is the troops seem to get mown down too easily.

I'd join the Empire, but most likely the Imperial navy, rather than the stormtroopers, working my way up the pilot ranks until one day I have my own Star Destroyer. Then when the rebels win, I defect and join them. My way is the best way. Hopefully I'd be a Force sensitive, so with my premonitive powers I'd ensure my ISD was never in combat.

Sounds kind of like an NS issue:

"The Empire is a great employer!" says Empire recruiter Obi-Wan Tarkin, after sending off an unlucky lieutenant before a firing squad. "With us you get full dental coverage, huge spaceships and cool giant robots and, best of all, the coolest looking uniforms in the galaxy."
[Accept]

"Use the Force, Luke" whispers dead Jedi master Chewbacca Barry in your ears. "The galaxy needs you to defeat Emperor Palpatine, restore the Republic, and convert a peaceful civilization of small fluffy bears into annoying war-mongerers."
[Accept]

"Quit standing there!" shouts moisture farmer George W. Solo, who is also your adoptive uncle. "You were daydreaming about flying off into the galaxy again, weren't you? Stop being such a whiny, pansy-ass blonde teenager and help me with that moisture collector, stat."
[Accept]

You have yet to formalize a position on this issue.

If you wish, you may simply dismiss this issue.

Tatooine is the shithole of the starwars galaxy.
Its a giant desert.

The best you can do eke out a living as a moisture farmer.

F That.

Take on the Empire, against certain defeat, and more than likely die a namless death on some frozen battlefeild?

Sounds good, get me off this rock.

The problem with joining the Empire, is the troops seem to get mown down too easily.

yah, can someone please explain to me what the hell good that armor did anyway? they still all died after one shot, and i'm willing to bet those helmets are the reason they cant shoot straight.

yah, can someone please explain to me what the hell good that armor did anyway? they still all died after one shot, and i'm willing to bet those helmets are the reason they cant shoot straight.

Exactly right. The armour seems to be useless crap & the helmets just restrict their vision.

sod it i'll just by some death sticks from that dude and have myself a good time partying at Jabba's palace

of course, when i'm sober i'd be tempted to join the rebels - but probably not for long ;)

Those stormtroopers are all clones of Jango Fett, right? I bet that sucker wore contact lenses.

The armour technically expanded their vision, and the armour prevented them dieing from near misses, as blasters are wont to do. When the helmet was off, it is restrictive, when on, it greatly expands it, allowing for multiple visual modes, including "down the barrel" vision for around the corner shooting. Also, it's a full NBC suit, and has its own small supply of oxygen. You'll see that rebels die even when shots miss them, but storm troopers need a direct hit to fall.

The armour technically expanded their vision, and the armour prevented them dieing from near misses, as blasters are wont to do. When the helmet was off, it is restrictive, when on, it greatly expands it, allowing for multiple visual modes, including "down the barrel" vision for around the corner shooting. Also, it's a full NBC suit, and has its own small supply of oxygen. You'll see that rebels die even when shots miss them, but storm troopers need a direct hit to fall.

Is that the rationale, or did you make it up? (I don't mean to be rude.) I've never looked at the films that closely.

You'll see that rebels die even when shots miss them,
I thought that was bad acting?

Sounds kind of like an NS issue...
"The Empire is a great employer!" says Empire recruiter Obi-Wan Tarkin, after sending off an unlucky lieutenant before a firing squad. "With us you get full dental coverage, huge spaceships and cool giant robots and, best of all, the coolest looking uniforms in the galaxy."
[Accept]

"Use the Force, Luke" whispers dead Jedi master Chewbacca Barry in your ears. "The galaxy needs you to defeat Emperor Palpatine, restore the Republic, and convert a peaceful civilization of small fluffy bears into annoying war-mongerers."
This is the position your young apprentice is preparing to adopt.

"Quit standing there!" shouts moisture farmer George W. Solo, who is also your adoptive uncle. "You were daydreaming about flying off into the galaxy again, weren't you? Stop being such a whiny, pansy-ass blonde teenager and help me with that moisture collector, stat."
[Accept]

The young apprentice has indicated his intention to follow the recommendations of Option 2.

If you wish, you may simply dismiss this issue.


Wow! That is really funny!!! I liked that :D

I'd join the Empire, but most likely the Imperial navy, rather than the stormtroopers, working my way up the pilot ranks until one day I have my own Star Destroyer. Then when the rebels win, I defect and join them. My way is the best way. Hopefully I'd be a Force sensitive, so with my premonitive powers I'd ensure my ISD was never in combat.
Yes, that sounds like the way to do it. Just make sure you're working somewhere else than under Lord Vader for you and your ISD would definitely see some action then!

Is that the rationale, or did you make it up? (I don't mean to be rude.) I've never looked at the films that closely.

Rationale. But also with playing truth twister, the game for 3+

lemme find the picature.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Ground/DockingBay94.jpg

See how it kablooms? Only one unfortunate stormie was got pegged there (the other lying on the ground is stationary from another bolt. The rest are safe. With no armour on, the frags of the explosion would've taken all the rebels out.

Rationale. But also with playing truth twister, the game for 3+

lemme find the picature.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Ground/DockingBay94.jpg

See how it kablooms? Only one unfortunate stormie was got pegged there (the other lying on the ground is stationary from another bolt. The rest are safe. With no armour on, the frags of the explosion would've taken all the rebels out.

Actually, that does make sense now you've explained it. I'd still choose the rebels, I always thought the X-Wings were the coolest.

Actually, that does make sense now you've explained it. I'd still choose the rebels, I always thought the X-Wings were the coolest.

Well if we are going with the films, then I'd take an A-Wing anyday, nothing could catch that, although the X-Wings just look cool.

But if we are going with the games. TIE Defender or maybe a Missile Gunboat (4 Warhead launchers + SLAMS). Both of those ships rock soooo much.

Well if we are going with the films, then I'd take an A-Wing anyday, nothing could catch that, although the X-Wings just look cool.

But if we are going with the games. TIE Defender or maybe a Missile Gunboat (4 Warhead launchers + SLAMS). Both of those ships rock soooo much.

Which ones are the A-Wings?

http://www.30doradus.org/spaceships/images/a-wing.jpg

That's an A-wing for you.

X-wings were the best fighter of the war, because that company defected to the rebellion, and palpie didn't do anything about it. They had shields, and better weapons than the TIE. it was more manoeuvrable, and so technically a bit more dangerous, if the pilot was skilled. If he's never off your back, all the firepower in the world won't help. See Darth Vader :D

By the way - my rebels would be wearing body armor!

A-Wings are also faster than your average TIE-Fighter. TIE-Advanceds match their speed, though.

If the X-Wing is your F-14 workhorse, the B-Wing being the F-15 equivalent of a heavy fighterbomber, your A-Wing could be considered your F-16.

The problem with joining the Empire, is the troops seem to get mown down too easily.

Yeah, you're just a number there. And you know what Austin Powers said on "nameless henchmen". Uh-huh. Ain't no hope for you fellas.

Besides, I'd go where the girls are at. Jabba's palace, here I come! Or that spy chick pseudo-Sith - yeah, she can have me, she can! Nothing better than a girl with a cloak wrapped in leather coupled with a lightsabre. Every late-seventies born adolescent's dream, I tell ya!

http://www.30doradus.org/spaceships/images/a-wing.jpg

That's an A-wing for you.

X-wings were the best fighter of the war, because that company defected to the rebellion, and palpie didn't do anything about it. They had shields, and better weapons than the TIE. it was more manoeuvrable, and so technically a bit more dangerous, if the pilot was skilled. If he's never off your back, all the firepower in the world won't help. See Darth Vader :D

Where do the A-Wings fit in? I don't remember them from any of the movies.

By the way - my rebels would be wearing body armor!

Don't be silly. They're rebels. Very few planets have the guts to support them. Ex-Alderaan, Mon Calamari, Yavin IV (which wasn't populated) Hoth (equally unpopulated)... they had to go wherever the most remote places were. Who'd MAKE them body armour? Rebels always used hit and run tactics. No time to pick up the bodies of any stormies they manage to kill.

By the way - my rebels would be wearing body armor!

A-Wings are also faster than your average TIE-Fighter. TIE-Advanceds match their speed, though.

If the X-Wing is your F-14 workhorse, the B-Wing being the F-15 equivalent of a heavy fighterbomber, your A-Wing could be considered your F-16.

How would you classify the Y-Wing?

Pfft... Empire, rebels, why so extreme. I'd just stay home and play Sabbac with the Jawa's, until I got bored - that's when I'd snag myself a lightsabre (how hard can it be to make such a thing?), practice some Jedi-stuff and I'd go live a covert life naming myself Obi-Druid and appearing here and there with some wisdom at hand, with the occasional ZZZZT of my lightsabre and beheading some ugly-looking alien. That'd be the life. And I would have an equally cool chick, and we'd be wearing dark cloaks and be all wise and enigmatic and such. Unless it's just the two of us, then we'd be doing it Jedi-style :p

Pfft... Empire, rebels, why so extreme. I'd just stay home and play Sabbac with the Jawa's, until I got bored - that's when I'd snag myself a lightsabre (how hard can it be to make such a thing?), practice some Jedi-stuff and I'd go live a covert life naming myself Obi-Druid and appearing here and there with some wisdom at hand, with the occasional ZZZZT of my lightsabre and beheading some ugly-looking alien. That'd be the life. And I would have an equally cool chick, and we'd be wearing dark clouds and be all wise and enigmatic and such. Unless it's just the two of us, then we'd be doing it Jedi-style :p

That's a sweet life. :D

A-Wings are also faster than your average TIE-Fighter. TIE-Advanceds match their speed, though.

If the X-Wing is your F-14 workhorse, the B-Wing being the F-15 equivalent of a heavy fighterbomber, your A-Wing could be considered your F-16.

I see that differently. Seeing as how the F-16 can carry bombs, it's nothing like an A-wing (which can only carry a limited supply of torpedoes, at best). I'd rather equalise the F-16 with the X-Wing, multi-role fighter. The A-wing with the XF-22 or the F/A-18a. Better yet, an F-104 (aptly named "Starfighter"). B-wings are rather slow, have heavy firepower and can stand damage: how about an A-10 Warthog? Y-wings have more in common with A-4's, IMO

I'd be an Imperial Tie Interceptor Pilot. High death rate, sure, but what a way to go!
http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/tieinterceptor/img/movie_bg.jpg

"Now, your typical Tie pilot, he's suicidal. And your Tie Defender pilot, he's bloodthristy. But the Tie Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthristy. When you see a squad of those maniacs heading toward you you'd better hope your hyperdrive is charged."
-Kyle Katarn

Don't be silly. They're rebels. Very few planets have the guts to support them. Ex-Alderaan, Mon Calamari, Yavin IV (which wasn't populated) Hoth (equally unpopulated)... they had to go wherever the most remote places were. Who'd MAKE them body armour? Rebels always used hit and run tactics. No time to pick up the bodies of any stormies they manage to kill.
True to some extend. Then, on the other hand, the rebels do get supplies and what they don't get they steal. I bet every little Imperial outpost hast some stormtroopers running aroung. Hit and run tactics yes, and you pick up what you need on your way.
Body armor would be given priority since the Rebels simply have to protect their soldiers better ('cause the Empire has more troops available).

But I wouldn't make it into the Stormtroopers anyway - I'd get to hear Leia's exclamation all the time... and yes, I'm a little bit too short for a stormtrooper.

How would you classify the Y-Wing?
Ah, the good old Y-Wings. Mmh. Workhorse as well, predecessor to pretty much X-Wing and B-Wing... Probably F-4.

I didn't mention the F-22 'cause it's like another generation. The "jump" between the others fits better than the new technology they pumped into the F-22. Since the A-10 "only" works really well against ground targets, I'd rather compare it with the Snowspeeders or alike...

You're right about the X-Wings though. They combine fleet defending (F-14) with their multi-purpose tasks (F-16) - how about F-18 then?
The A-Wings could be considered a modernized version of the the F-104 with speed over weaponry - only that they are "younger" than the rest.